How to Mount Ruger Scope Rings ~ Mini-14 or any others
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- čas přidán 2. 07. 2024
- Ruger scope rings are extremely durable, but are often installed incorrectly, which causes immediate loosening. Follow this short video and enjoy one of the best integral scope rings made.
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Really good tutorial. Thank you! 👍🏼
I just found your channel and I'm glad I did. Looking forward to watching all of your past videos, and what's to come.
Great video, short and to the point with all the info you need. Ready to mount mine now.
I've done it this way for years and works out great everytime . I can't believe the way some guys lap the scope rings and take an hour to mount the scope and it come out with same results.
REALY love these Mini-14 videos. I recently got the exact one you have.
Very helpful stuff. Keep it up Blue
I wish I knew this two years ago when I tried to mount a scope to my mini. I went with Warne Quick Detach rings made especially for Ruger scope mounts because the scope has a 30mm tube, but I could never get the rifle to hold zero. I figured it was the rings because the scope was fine on my other rifle. I exchanged the Ruger version rings for the picatinny version of the Warne QD rings and everything works fine. I bet with these tips the original rings would have worked without the picatinny rail.
I've been a subscriber for years and love your content. thank you for what you do for all of us out here in the community. and I'm glad to see Benny is doing well and still going to the range with you.
The problem lies in not mating the rings the exact distance from each other, so one fights the other. After just a few shots, the tug of war between them is over and they loosen. Thank you for your support.
Excellent information. Thanks...I'm ready to mount a scope on mine!
Thanks GB490, I just installed a SIG scope on my Mini-30 from watching your very informative video. I'll remember this soft mallet technique from now on thank you.
Thanks for sharing your videos and keep them coming please.
Thanks for the video. Installing one on Ranch Rifle this week.
Thanks for the presentation. Many pets to Benny.
Thank you for your advice on scoping the Mini 14. I plan on scoping my mini 14 this weekend and your shared knowledge will help me to do the job the right way.
Good content and I love watching your shows
Thanks. Just mounted a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x24 to my old Mini30 as well as a stiffer hammer spring. Now can get some distance as well as use steel ammo.
😖 I sure wish this video was available 55 years ago when I attached my first scope. WOW, did I ever have problems with it.
Thank you Sir for sharing your knowledge with us.
Stan
When i mount a scope for eye relief i like to shoulder the rifle with my eyes closed then i open my eyes and adjust the scope back or forward until I get full view in the scope. I like to do it like that because when you close your eyes you shoulder your gun in the most comfortable position possible. I found that if i do it with my eyes open ill adjust my head and scope instead of just the scope.
Great info, as always, and in keeping with KISS methodology. I've seen guys with bubble levels mounted to the scope itself, and when you shoulder the rifle, the vertical reticle doesn't even align with the bore. I'm looking forward to your Mini-14 bedding episode- I bought one of the dodgy, mid-eighties minis new in 1986, and have been fiddling with it ever since.
Some people can't see level, plumb and square. Great video, as usual.
thanks very much for the instruction and tips as well.
Dang! Learned something new!
Brownells sells a set of proper fitting bits for all common cross bolts. Tip: For a good solid fit degrease the cross bolt and heat the lower ring saddle with cross bolt in a oven till it’s warm to the touch apply blue loctite and secure on firearm as indicated in your video. I’m old school and always degrease all cross bolts plus ring screws. You will save yourself some frustrations down the road when your mounts get sloppy. Great 👍🏻 video.
Great point about the clearance. Had to go with the Ruger Picatinny rail myself due to the lack of clearance (did not want to remove the rear peep sight).
I’ll have to do this as well. Do you deal with a lot of failures to eject with that set up?
Thanks for a great video. Hope you guys had a good time at the range................ 👍
Amazing video! Thank you!
straight to the point! brilliant. =)
Thanks for the information
I just bought the only ruger mini tac on gunbroker nationwide. Should be here by Friday and I'm pumped to tune it up right away!
Well ballpark we're in on costs for that just curious you don't have to be exact
THX YOU!😎
Nice
Great video..I just bought one of these looking at options for optics..going to try the iron sights for s bit..I really like your videos tho
I put a 2-7x Leupold scope on my early 'pencil barrel' Ranch rifle and got groups of 4" at 100 yards. With an adjustable gas block and barrel strut installed, groups were cut to under 2" using ball ammo. With handloads, I get around 1" or so. The only fault with the gun is that it is fussy about what mags I use. With good ones it runs like a champ. With not-so-good ones it's another story.
Your problem has been with using non-original magazines, not with the gun. Ruger has addressed the accuracy issues with the heavier barrel, which requires no added features.
I use exactly the same method. Be so close from your protocole feels really nice to me.
For years now, people ask me to set their optics and zero them. I guess there's a reason. I like setting up optics and i'm proud when hunters and shooters tell me they're happy with my work on their riffles. I take it really seriously. You're right. The eye is the ultimate tool for alignment and truth...
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Thank you for that support!
Excellent video that answered some of the questions I had. The Ruger Mini-14 shipset includes the scope rings and a Picatinny Rail and the receiver is drilled and tapped to accommodate both. It seems like Ruger is giving the option either to use the scope rings or the Pic Rail. You would still need scope mounts in any event to attach a scope to the Pic Rail. The scope rings provided in the shipset and mounted directly to the receiver - as in the video - appear to resolve the issue.
Picatinny rails have a following for folks who swap stuff, especially.
Notice no part of the directions from Ruger recommend smashing the scope rings with a hammer for some crazy reason.
Therefore it’s best to avoid doing what was shown in this video if you’re interested in properly mounting an optic.
Bought a stainless mini in 1991 didnt have receiver mount machinest friend drilled tapped a 1 piece Leapold mount installed 2x7 leapold scope shoots good
Loved the video on the scoop I followed your direction. Can I use the same mag for 223 and 5.56 rounds …
Thank you!
The way I position the crosshairs is by leveling the rifle in a vice and shining a flashlight backwards through the scope turned on the lowest magnification setting and it will project the crosshairs onto the wall where you have a weighted line hanging. Then you just turn the scope until the projection on the wall lines up with your plumb line hanging down.
Then do your own video.
@@kennethlukes1897 There's already videos showing how to do it. There's even descriptions on forums for people who learn better that way.
@@Prepare2Survive let’s see it
@@waylonlegend4603 New youtube rules prohibit showing mounting anything to a firearm because they are claiming you're " modifying " the gun and that's not allowed on youtube anymore. There's probably forums that explain how it's done. It's not very hard to understand. You're essentially just making sure the rifle is level then shine a flashlight going backwards through the scope on the lowest power and you'll see the crosshairs projected onto the wall where you can hang a plum line so you can twist the scope so the crosshairs are parallel with the plum line and then just tighten down the scope rings.
Thanks so much for your instructional videos for the Mini 14. I always refer to you video on on rhe cleaning and reassembly, so helpful. I have a question now since im looking into mounting a scope. Do you suggest leaving the scope in place or removing the scope prior to cleaning the riffle after shooting it? Thanks in advance for you advice
I mounted a nice bit of glass on a 10-22 last year and my eye was absolutely not in line with the bubble! I was stunned that I could be so off, but that little bubble doesn't lie either. Now it's a plingking/target rifle, I'm not competing in a biathlon or anything, but I still want to be as precise at the range as I can. Have you ever had similar experiences and if so, to what do you attribute that disparity? Love your videos!
Light materials but works very well
Benny wants to go to the range. Then he wants a glass of beer and a cigar.
Great video did you ever do a video on the Ruger mini 30 (7.62x39 )as a deer gun and for self defense. Thanks
Excellent info as always gunblue. What type of screw driver are you using here? It sounded like a torque driver.
I drilled and tapped for regular base mounts. Shoots a one and a half group all day long with all rounds
Thank you for the video will be using this to attach my scope on my new mini 14. I do have a question though and it's about the scope being right underneath the ejection port did you run into any problems? I bought a sig buckmasters so hopefully it doesn't interfere.
Sir - excellent, straight forward, no-nonsense video. One question for you (my apologies if you’ve addressed it in another of your videos): What type of sling do you have on the rifle in this video? Is it a standard GI web sling, or something else? Thank you!
It's a true GI Garand style cotton web sling made by Tech Sights for one inch swivels. It's perfectly scaled for Mini-14 and Ruger 10/22 rifles, and works exactly like a 1.25" cotton Garand sling. I did a special video regarding the Garand sling a few years ago that describes how to weave it.
Great video GunBlue. Simple and to the point. I've always felt scope attachment was a basic job. But unbelievable how many have butchered the job. I'm usually torn using "loc-tite" or not, I see you use the oil trick. Cheers Jeff
If you want to see a butchered job, fast forward to 4:15 and see what it looks like when you have no idea how to install Ruger scope rings.
Note in the Ruger manual “smack the rings around with a mallet” is never mentioned once.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 I'll take the skills, experience and expertise of GunBlue, over an owner's manual. In your car's owner's manual what does it list for torque specs ? Probably doesn't, but guess what, there's not a single bolt, screw or nut on a car that doesn't have one.
@@jk-kr8jt Not sure what torque specs have to do with me mentioning that smashing scope rings with a mallet isn’t proper scope mounting procedure, but whatever helps you cope 😂
@@rifleshooterchannel208 the point is, as stated, not everything is in the owner's manual. You can mount your scopes any way you'd like. Crazy glue and/or duct tape is not recommended, but hey to each their own.
@@jk-kr8jt So you’re saying smacking the scope rings with a mallet is a good technique?
I have not been able to find this problem anywhere. Mine will shoot dead on my first shot every shot after will be within a pie plate size. Let it cool for a couple of hours it will still be shot all over. Leave it for a day, and the first shot will be dead on. Running out of ideas to try.
Thanks
Seth
Wake up guys
Taping the releases the tension OR binding of the metal
to allow for SLIGHT
MORE TIGHTENING
If you look at the metal under a microscope or
feel the finish
It is slightly rough
Hence the tapping
allows for slipping
or breaking loose
the bind which allows for a bit more tighening
Cheers
I have an older mini 14 without a built in scope mounting fixture. Have you done a video on mounting a scope to an older Ruger Mini 14?
I just purchased the same rifle and about to attach a scope. I'm somewhat concerned with oiling the screws. I'm guessing that the oil will allow for a tighter fit. Wrong or right, I've always used Loc-Tight. I think I'll use this method. I'm wondering if you have always oiled these screws? Not questioning your experience/knowledge but this is new to me. Great video!
Got a 580 series stainless. Good for about 15 rounds before it starts to wander. Still like it. Really fun to shoot. Probably got 10k rounds thru and not one malfunction.
Bench rest shooters only shoot ten consecutive shots, and they do it in ten minutes. If your rifle is accurate for 15 consecutive shots, it's not the rifle that's wandering. It's the target. Heat from the barrel, including the emission from the bore, causes refraction of light that bends the target image up, left, right, and even down, depending on air currents that move the vapor. The target isn't where you are shooting. Bench rest shooters all shoot identically accurate rifles, but spend a lifetime learning to read wind and mirage, which is what separates the men from the boys, or the ladies from the girls, if you will. If a rifle has accuracy problems, it doesn't wait for 15 shots to show it. What sort of target need 15 accurate rounds?
@@GunBlue490 That is the biggest piece of Fuddlore insanity I’ve ever read on your channel.
@@GunBlue490 I would like to see this tested
Nice video! What height are those rings? I want to put a scope on mine but don't want to remove the factory rear sight. Ordered Warne Q.D. rings in medium height and really hope that they clear the rear sight with a Leupold 2-7x33 VX Freedom scope.
Did you ever try a new recoil spring? If this is a 30 year old spring it might be slower to cycle than a new one. Timing can do a lot with these sorts of jams.
what scope is that I just picked one up and have has lots of fun with it looking for a scope now and I like the one you have where is is from
What are your thoughts about USPC bore paste? There's not much I do about bore cleaning
Hi when setting the eye relief do use the scopes maximum magnification then set for your eye.
The minimum and maximum eye relief range is the same at any magnification. Simply adjust the distance so your eye is positioned in the center of that range when the eyepiece is focussed..
Thank you, Andrew
Now that you have the scope mounted how do you take the bolt out to clean it?
Can you remove and replace the scope with the 2 ring mounts, without having to re zero the scope?
Does Ruger sell scope rings in this style with 30mm tube diameter? I'm looking at LPVO scopes, they mostly come in 30mm tubes.
New sub........ Paw paw is 100 times cooler than hickcok45.
You showing us the meat and potatoes. All hickory do is shoot stuff and nature walks.(plz don't do) .
I don't Smith on the firearms but I do enjoy reloading ammo. I look forward to you content brother. Big thanks for what you do.
Hello friend, i have a question regarding the brass or inferior metals. Is it true it has problems with aluminum cases
Thanks, that was very good. I was wondering if the scope will interfere with the ejected cases?
It certainly might. The rifle design was intended for combat with supplied peep sights. When I mount a scope, it's a one shot affair.
I use the ruger supplied rings and have no problems with the ejected rounds. At least I didn't until the government here made my gun illegal to use.
Question? Should I use high or extra high rings with 30 mm tube and 50 mm lens. My problem is I don’t wanta see my suppressor in the scope on my Mini 14.
So on this video you are using higher rings because of the large objective bell of the Leopold scope. Those high rings allow you to clear your aftermarket rear sight.
No, I didn't use higher rings. Those are the original height rings that Ruger supplies in the box with all Mini-14 rifles. This is simply a mounting demonstration, using a spare scope I have on hand that I use for ammo testing. I would never have any reason to mount or recommend such a cumbersome scope on this rifle. The more important concern is to provide adequate clearance for brass ejection, so that cases don't collide and jam the bolt.
What scope rings are you using? I have the KD-72-M rings but need a little extra height. It appears you have extra high but I can’t seem to find a part number that I know will work. Thanks and great videos!
They are the rings supplied by Ruger as standard equipment, which are medium height.
Was that Young Frankenstein? 😂
I see the scope your installing is a Leupold, what power is it? What's your thoughts about using the Mini 14 chambered in the 5.56 Nato for deer hunting? Shots out to 150 yards.
It's a Leupold VX-1 3-9. I use it only for ammo testing with normally un-scoped rifles. Watch my early vintage scope selection video. I never hunt with a power greater that 2.5X at the low end, and prefer 1 or 1.5X at the low for deer in order to gain the best field of view, which is critical. If your state allows it, the Mini-14 is certainly capable within 150 yards with the appropriate ammo. I would use a minimum of 60 grain bullets, with a heavy jacket designed specifically for large game, not the standard explosive varmint type.
Which scope rings are you using, thanks
Eye relief is always something of a compromise for me. If I set it up perfect for standing, then it will be far too close for prone. Check it in all positions you intend to shoot.
Using a good quality scope should provide a very generous range of eye relief to suit any shooting position when properly adjusted. Avoid setting it at a critical distance and there'll be no compromise.
Do you have a link for the rings?
Have you fired your Mini 14 with the scope attached ? The Mini 14 ejects the empties quite vigorously and I was concerned that the empties would hit the scope as they were ejected. Have you encounter that possible issue ? Thanks
Yes, I have. Brass clears the scope perfectly. In fact, this most recent series tosses brass with far less vigor than mine or my buddy's earlier 580 rifles. My brass lands about six to eight feet away at a pretty consistent 3 to 4 o'clock with this rifle, and doesn't dent cases as before. I don't have to wander the countryside to find it! Even at my range, the brass is directed safely behind the next shooter. It actually tosses no farther than my bolt action rifles now. Recoil is also noticeably softer.
Can you please tell me the make of the screwdriver you used? Also, what size Torx bit did you use?
Sure, it's a Gunmaster screwdriver set that I purchased in the Walmart gun department a couple of years ago for $7.95. It's magnetic and comes with a complete set of bits for all sizes and types. I've purchased two sets and they are very good quality. The Torx bit that I used is included.
What were the torque settings? Using a torque wrench, but never discussed the torque settings????
I just bought a mini 14 and it came with the picitany rail and the scope rings, does it come out to preference or which offers better shooting? And if i go with the scope rings do you recommend loctitie?
My new Mini-14 came as yours. It's entirely up to you. I personally prefer the Ruger rings, which don't cover the ejection port. Loctite is not necessary, but it won't hurt. Use only Blue 242, and use only an Allen wrench to tighten.
Great vid bud,Q?What's the scope you use or what's the best scope for mini 14 with the mounts?:)Nothing crazy or expensive:)
Personally, I prefer a 1-4 or similar power as used by the military. Watch my recent comparison of the wood v. synthetic stock with an AR-15 and you'll see such a scope with a 1 inch tube on my AR-15. It's plenty, and very compact. I used a Nikon with a .223 dot reticle.
@@GunBlue490 is Vortex Optics Sonora 4-12x44 Second Focal Plane Riflescope - Dead-Hold BDC Reticle good for mini 14?:)150.00 to spend?
@@teskataftaba Don't know what ya did, but the 44mm bell as long as it cleared you're good to go. I love Vortex
what size Ruger rings would I need for a 44mm objective? I see there are 42mm available but the next size up is a 52mm - I assume that would be the one to get for a 44mm objective?
Depends on several factors. Objective lens measurement is the visible glass diameter, not the objective bell outside diameter. Adjustable AO and tube thickness can be very different with identical objective specifications. Of course, my Mini-14 has a top mounted handguard that has less allowance than a bare barrel, and barrel tapers vary. I can give you my measurements and you can go from there. With this Mini-14, and with a Leupold non-AO 3-9x40mm and medium height rings, I have a snug 6mm clearance between the bell and the handguard. The outside diameter of my bell is 1.835". I'll let you do the math for your situation. Be sure to provide at least half mm or .020" clearance, or you'll have no way to run a cloth through the spot.
What scope are you usings
What kind of scope is that
I assume my Mini-14 is like all other 580 and higher
Spent casing trajectory is very high it goes a significant distance
I haven't yet scoped my mini
Given where the turrets sit are the casings striking the knob with every ejected casing and do you think it would have a negative effect on the
Actually, it's not at all. I have observed that this most recent 584 series does not eject as far, nor does it strike the scope, which also results in uninterrupted, clear ejection that doesn't bounce back into the receiver. Also, recovered brass is not dented as my previously owned 580 series. Ejection is more directional than random. It's a very good improvement overall that I assume is not peculiar to this one rifle.
I need your help,I have a pre 27 smith - I wanted to chenge the grips but the screw it keeps turning I don't know if the screw itself or the grips are the problem ( its pacmayer grips) I was wondering if I could just cut the grips Whit a knife and get to the screw and use some wire cutter and cut the screw in helf or use a drill bit on the screw head, i know it sounds very stupid and almost caveman approach to the problem but I'm sure you have a much better idea,thank you very much.
Could be the female threaded insert on the other inside of the grips/around the butt somehow came loose and is spinning with the screw. It happens and it’s frustrating.
Me personally I would drill the head of the screw out but that is a really nice wheelgun you might be concerned about slipping, I know I would 😂
If you’re careful and stop to check your progress often, I’m sure drilling the head out would work well.
Sounds like you need an impact drill. 😎
@@JoelMMcKinney lol
Which rings are these?
I use a Barbie dowel to whack the ring base.
What happened to the glass bedding videos?
Was also just looking for this. Also not on Patreon
I'm posting an important revision. Stay tuned.
Is it just me or is that scope really high? I suppose it needs to be with that rifle though. In a pinch that will do the job but for long term it seems you would scope a rifle that will allow a closer cheek weld to the stock.
In most cases, rifle manufacturers make their rifles to provide the ideal cheek weld with medium height rings. While they may give a better profile, low rings can often crunch the cheek too low for a natural cheek weld. No, what this situation provides is perfect.
@@GunBlue490 Thank you for the reply. I’m going to give a scope a try on my Mini and see how it feels. As always, you are a wealth of information on his rifle!
God Bless.
What is the designated screw torque?
There is no designated torque. Simply use a screwdriver and turn until it stops as I demonstrated.
Surprised that you don't check alignment of the the rings.
What size scope was that you are installing on that rifle?
The scope that I demonstrated is a 3-9 Leupold. However, it would not be the scope I would recommend. I would prefer a 1-4, 1.5-5, or 2-7 power scope.
@@GunBlue490 thank you for responding to me. My mini 14 came with rings and I've thought about putting a scope on it. My rear peep sight is extremely small, I wish it was like my M1A. I assume that scope in your video was a 40 mm objective lens?
@@allyn1016 Yes, it's a 40mm lens, but less power requires proportionally a smaller diameter objective. You may wish to try a Tech Sights peep, as I demonstrated in another video. The aperture is very similar to an M1A peep, and has even finer adjustments. They also have an optional peep system with interchangeable peep inserts, which provides correct aperture size for target, field, dull, or bright conditions.
@@GunBlue490 thank you once again for taking the time to respond to me. I did see your video on that, and I am definitely going to make that purchase for that site. I'm like you I would prefer to have the iron sights, it must be an older guy thing. Again thanks and I am now a subscriber.
Does your mini 14 put a ding and all of your brass when you fire it?
FRAU BLUCHER!
Sir what sling are you using?
It's a one inch Garand style sling, available from Tech Sights. It's made to replicate the original 1-1/4" Garand sling, but for smaller rifles with smaller swivels.
@@GunBlue490 I thought it was. I actually have one in my cart right now and I didn’t know if I wanted the 1 and 1/4 or the 1 inch. Thank you so much!
Do these rings fit a 40mm scope?
40mm refers to the objective bell diameter. Yes, medium height rings will accommodate the clearance for a 40mm bell. These standard rings are for 1" diameter scope tubes.
@@GunBlue490 thank you sir!
HAVE A SCOUT SCOPE ON MINE .
Step 1: buy ultimak scout rail
Step 2: Install
Ha ha! Gene, Gene, Gene...
You forgot the part where the ejected brass beats up the windage turret!
You ever talk to the real gunsmith.
Lol. 13:12