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oda has pumped out a chapter a week almost consistently for 23+ years one writer/artist and a handful of helpers who touch up his art work and it’s followed a chronological story chapter by chapter including flashbacks and the story still feels exciting every time i pick up the next chapter
If they didn't want me to pirate manga why did they make the most popular manga about pirates?
I remember reading the invicible comic, when one of the chapters art look different than the rest, i was so confused at this inconsistency, so i looked at the index page and it turns out they used a different artist for different chapters, it was pretty distracting
The changes were jarring! More so when I did not like one of the artists at all!! Some characters felt like other people just from their facial expressions, I had trouble associating what the character had went through with the emotional outburst on the next volume because his face looked like shit
Yeah the artists changing was probably one of my main issues with it.
The Japanese formula of creating anime as a promotional for manga is a perfect synergy. So many people watched and loved Invincible and if more series with proper continuity were given the same treatment it would work so well.
It doesn't matter if the storyline sucks. MCU and superhero movies and TV shows are exploding but you don't see their comic sales climbing
@@jjsamuelgunn1136 not necessarily talking about story, I’m just saying the formula of having an adaptation that coincides with a comic story. Generally the sales of a manga go up after it recieved an anime adaptation.
@@jequangold7098 Yeah, Marvel is definitely not worrying about that with how much they mix and match and burrow from popular and obscure runs of stuff. You need god damn comic historians just to find what there using as a loose baseline sometimes
I think the issue when it comes to comics being "woke" is less about politics being in comics period and more how the politics are handled.
ie. Hamfisted political messages that puts story and enjoy on the backburner vs political/moral messages that are melded into the story without taking away the fun of the story.
As for diversity, as a gay black guy, I think adding more unique and interesting characters is fine but it feels especially with Marvel and DC like it's done for spectacle and publicity then genuinely adding diverse characters
I hard agree with you on this. Cause even though I think you definitely did get some hamfisted messages put into comics, I think you got quite alot of stories that handled those messages with tact and left your audience wondering with food for thought then just telling them what is right or wrong.
As for diversity It honestly feels like they parade around minorities and talk a bunch about diversity and inclusion and when a lot of those measures are just race swapping or changing the sexuality or gender of a character. It's honestly made me have a lot of appreciation for minority characters that are well done like cyborg, static and pretty most of the Owl House cast. Cause they feel like people I can route for.
Manga creators don't passionately hate the fanbase or characters they're writing- that helps too
As someone who does prefer comic stories and characters, I will not lie and say mange does a way better job with variety and consistency.
@Otaku Animes oops
I mean almost all the mangas have one thing in common, one author-one vision till the end
Even in Superhero genre which western is good at manga beat them in sales
likely because they have very few people creating the same story/character. if for example one piece has something that seems out of nowhere seems to be hinted at previously while if something in say spiderman comes out of nowhere it's probably this months new writer just wanting to do something "surprising"
Yup I have been pirating manga for years and few comic as well. I only buy the books when I think the series is worth it (or when I have some money). This was a pretty balanced video good job man.
1st of all
manga does not use overly political correctness
one piece does :D
Actually, I think the biggest reason is the most obvious, and I'm surprised you didn't mention it (unless I spaced out) - Anime. The entire point of anime is to advertise the mangas for the most part, they're usually a 1:1 adaptation, so if you liked the anime and want to see more, you can jump right into the Manga. But with comics and their movie adaptations, it seems like there's barely been any push to get those who liked the movies to get into the comics, and the movies are usually loose adaptations anyway, not to mention (as you said) each writers tone can be completely different than what you were hoping when watching the films.
Frankly, I find the failure of comics during the superhero movie boom to be one of the largest marketing and business mistakes ever - a level of incompetence that needs to be examined at a later date and held up as a shining example of 'how not to capitalise on a situation' - a business failure comparable to the failure of New Coke.
Otherwise, yeah, totally agree with all your other points as well.
I slightly brought it up. You bring up a point I didn't think of as well. The MCU for example aren't really adaptations. Very loose ones for some of the more popular storylines. (Sometimes for the worse - Anything with the Hulk. Sometimes the better - Civil War.)
That’s another thing I love about anime and manga, they actually have different genres. Marvel and DC just have one genre, super heroes
Marvel and D.C. have more under their labels. They'll just never give them the same amount of promotion as superheros. That's their biggest fault.
Sandman/ doctor who
well no shit... thats the point. they're companies not whole genres
@@wetdon591 yep I agree, you’d think huge companies like DC and Marvel would have more ideas than the super hero genre
@Orion7 you named some of the most ludicrous comics but said super hero most comics are stupid lmao
Although with Mangas, Mangas do have a single journey of the character or characters even with two volumes as a whole story, They do tell alot of story and Keep up the continuity and what character does what in example...
And Also Answer Fan's Questions..
But Then for DC they do Have alot of Great Comics like The Killing Joke by Alan Moore or Batman Year One by Frank Miller, but DC wants to make a Unwanted sequel like the three Jokers story, (Because DC had to put in That Jokers Wife Had Faked her death in the killing Joke origin of joker, Although It was Clear that the Two Mobster's had Killed her) and Alan Moore was Betrayed by DC... because they made a sequel comic and a crossover comic (Which is the Doomsday Clock) which Alan Moore responded "Watchmen was suppose to be a one time thing for its story".
Watchmen and Ultimate Spider-man are closest examples, I can think of Superhero comics storires being like the Manga stories.
@@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 I can Agree with the best of comics like The long Halloween by joeseph Loeb and Tim Sale (rest in Piece Tim you are the best artist)
And Also Scott Pilgrim for how it was a Video game version of Boy meets girl story, I've really loved The famous DC comics of batman like the Dark Knight Returns, and the New 52 story line by Scott Snyder and Greg capullao like the Court of Owls to Batman Bloom...
Western comics: Im so FABULOUS!!
Jojo: *strikes pose* Well actually
This is a joke, I dont know anything about western comics and will not claim responsibility for offense taken
One additional point why I prefer Mangas over western comics is the art style. Yes, it really depends on the artist and nowadays many manga artist tend to have a similar style. But lets have a look on Demon slayer. I didn't buy them because it is a cool story. I prefer to watch shonen because of the fights. But the art style is similar to ancient Japanese drawings, especially the way body parts are drawn. I can't find something like that in western comics.
I kinda slightly disagree with the Wokeness Segment. Since Alot of Manga that is popular has Politics on it. Reason why they hated it. Is one. They just add political statement that is basically during fight scene. Manga on the other hand used politics as a plot point. Or a environment story telling. And not just random statement said by The MC or the Enemy their fighting.
definitely
I remember Marvel releasing some videos explaining the current cannon. I think that could help help out for the causal reader
Short answer: because recently manga has just been better
Right now apart from a select few comics just aren't the same as they used to be, inconsistency, failing to adapt to newer times, lack of originality and just a lack of people that care about them anymore
Whereas manga is pretty straight forward, constantly adapting (so much that if a series underperforms it gets cancelled to make space for new, better and more unique series), abundance of originality and right now with manga being at its peak of popularity there are enough people that care enough to buy them
It's pretty easy to see why manga is outperforming comics rn
Manga has always been better
Manga has always been better than Comics.
Mainstreamers just noticed it recently.
Manga is not at its peak of popularity. it reached its peak back in the 1990s. When shounen Jump manga sold more manga in a week than DC and Marvel did in a year.
Since then manga really hasn't blown up like it did when it was the 90s. There is more competition out now. Indie comics, The boys, invincible, MCU, DCEU, smart phones, manwha (webtoons),etc. If anything western comics are becoming irrelevant and being replaced by manga, manga isn't at its peak, its just taking away western comic audiences.
What if Total Drama had a comic series ?
It woudnt work the whole point of the show is about the theme of television but a spin off comic could maybe a satire comic on heroes and super heroe universe
@@carlacarrero4975 what if they do a mini comic for cards ?
@@nicholassims9837 that could work a satire or Pokemon parody would be awesome
Never thought about it, but I do prefer manga compared to comics.
Invincible is what every comic should replicate but just like the movies, comics have to cater to a whole universe of other characters too
I completely forgot about Sakura Con...
The only big japanese franchise thats just as clusterfucked as the superhero comics would probably be the Fate universe,,
And even that one has been engineered to be somewhat lenient to newcomers.
Just read the visual novel.
Mind you it goes beyond just fate. Don't forget the Tsukihime franchise, Kara no Kyoukai, and Mahoutsukai no Yoru.
@@201bio so, Nasuverse.... Lol...
@@sqfath7490 Aye. The Fate universe is only one (although the largest) part of the wider clusterF that is the Nasuverse.
I’m not even sure how the Tsukihime and Mahoyo remakes fit into the canon…
@@201bio Bruh, what's even outside of Fate-verse? Kara No Kyoukai? Tuskihime?
@@nnnnmhughuuhhjiijj9457 Yes, those, Mahoyo, and a bunch of minor things like angel notes and whatnot.
This is it. Great video
I love manga
5:04 Nearly choked on my food bro lol
I forgot I was subbed to you
Dope.
I want the berserk hardcover set sooooo much.
Reading comic should be just that, reading comics, not becoming a historian or a treasure hunter…
Manga is better in my opinion I always felt that way to me Anime and manga is the best.
I think it is because there is a more variety of direct animated adaptations of manga, which draws people to read the manga between seasons or to finish out the series. But, with comics there's not really that many animated adaptations with them going more the live action route, which leads to feeling much more disconnected from the comic material so provides less incentive to read them.
At least that's what led to me checking out manga and reading more manga after watching anime. While with comics there's not really been that many that leads me to want to read about them. Like I'll enjoy some Marvel or DC movie, but the live action adaptation doesn't draw me to read the comics. And doesn't really feel like there's that much variety in animated comics either compared to anime.
The reason why I don’t read marvel and dc comics , because they are boring , no longer entertaining, and lack of storytelling and sjw ….
And they overused Spider-Man and Batman
Yes this is exactly why I can't stand comics in west. Sometimes a cartoon comes out and takes the best stuff from comics and places them in miniseries format. That is when I can get into it. But the idea that I should have to research the order something must be read in is just extra work. I should not have to do that. It should be as simple as this is the timeline and this is the universe the timeline is in, and here are the shows. Each show takes place somewhere in the timeline and when you look at the timeline it all comes together to make sense. Manga allows you to get into a series from the beginning much easier. Hopefully the way western comics are done is in line with manga in future. Although I like comics in general I prefer the way japan does it. The western way is designed so that you hopefully end up searching for back issues and hunting for missed issues and then piecing it all together. But as I said that takes work. Why should I do that? Just make it simple.
Comics are seen as a medium for younger readers so they hold back on violence, drama, romance, ect. Sonic is held back, sueprheroes are held back, ect. They never go too far unless it's related to race, gender, or some kind of representation (moreso for superheroes than Sonic.) Yes, representation matters and equality matters. BUT superhero comics do it all wrong.
Well manga are so long because the oftenly do pause....flashback for 15 chapters, continue... Pause, lets have a supporting character story for 20 chapters, continue.
One Piece: Wano Country.
The strongest argument you made was demonstrating the Authentic Diversity in Manga. In Comics they suffer from lack of creativity and inventiveness then they add Synthetic Diversity (aka Propaganda) to make it even worse.
There's a list of other problems too, but at core and only speaking about the "art" itself the above are the essential differences.
Rebirth TITANS run was pretty straighfoward..as was Rebirth Red Hood and the Outlaws though you maybe have to first know the history of Jason todd but the comic gives you the quick summary of it.
TITANS has some old lore too though but again it is pretty basic hero team ..the first Arc is maybe a bit Cliche of a story but art is great and it is great for a begginner.
Japanese people generally are kind
What's your take on LightNovels ,?
I'm a fan of Sonic and the games and when I learnt there is a comic, I learnt of the different writers and the crazy stories and the inconsistencies of the first 159 issues that I decided to skip all those and start at issue 160 going forward since they have one writer and a more cohesive story. 😊
Comics in omnibus volumes are a gamble because comics are a gamble. They are released monthly but they get sales numbers right away. Sales numbers that are not good btw. But manga is done weekly and it goes by what's most popular and the competition is vicious! They compete to stay in the top ten so every issue counts! Those issues are then gathered in cheap paperback volumes and tell an entire story unbroken.
In Japan, manga artist work like slaves, while in the US, comic books artists and writers expect to be treated like gods
mangakas are paid between 90-135 dollars per page, manga are usually 20 pages so the amount of money they get is at least 20x95=1.900 dollars per chapter (they release 1 per month or 1 per week), not to mention the royalties
the comic writers are treated like gods only in the fact that they never finish the issue in time they are always late and they dont get fired
Thanks for the logical argument, agree with you on this.
but that time those messages worked and they were nuanced not the propaganda now, now its right in your face they are using the characters as medium to preach to us meanwhile we are trying to enjoy the story but then we realise there is no story
A joke: The presidents of DC and Marvel were desperate with the decadence of comics in the country and asked God: - Oh, Lord, save the national comics!
Result: DC and Marvel went bankrupt.
My Hero Acdemia has a handful of spin offs, but there's two main series and only one is considered canon. My Hero Academia and My Hero Academia Vigilantes.
Great vid, subbed
Surprised by the lack of comments, this is quite good.
My channel was hacked for a few days recently and the videos were made private. So all the comments were taken when I took control again.
@@adamshadow9881 oh man that sucks :/ I'm glad you got it back tho
As someone who gets annoyed with little things I think people are dumb if they think wokeness is the only problem with comic books I HATE SUPERHEROES MANGA IS MORE DIVERSE IN STORYTELLING THAN DUMB COMICS
are you frustrated?
I think they just need to focus less on single issues and tpb and actually print them in an order that makes sense like for example I started reading spawn from vol 1 and it was easy to get into unlike wolverine, also marvel and dc really don't know how to market
Project Superpower by Dynamite Entertainment! Is a great read and has no fancy shinenigans too.
If manga weren't pirated, I wouldn't be slaving away at my job and putting away this nest egg for when Kingdom gets an English release.
Well, there is some disadvantage of manga
1. Its expensive. Each volume cost 10-15 dollars. And majority of popular series have over 20 or 30 or even 50 volumes. There are cheaper ways to collect like box set (although not many get those) and omnibuses but some people don't like them.
2. Manga is always OOS. Because there are so many volumes of a series, you can never just simply order all of the volumes at once. Some to most of the volumes are always OOS. And its infrequent when they do restock. For example, i love the call of the night anime so i decided to buy the manga. After i put in my order i find out that a couple of the volumes wont restock until december.
3. Manga can go OOP. There's manga that you would want that simply too old or not popular that ends up getting OOP. And GOOD LUCK trying to find them in the second hand market cause, not only do they scalp OOS manga, but increase the price of OOP manga way too much. For example, to get all the singles of gantz (37 volumes) you probably need to spend 1000 dollars.
4. Legally speaking, its probably easier to read comics. There isn't many ways to read the manga you want to unless you purchase the physical manga or buy them online. There is an app but it doesn't have everything you would want to read.
Can you Talk About Kaitou Joker?
Imo, manga is just comics essentially perfected. All the genres you could dream of, easy continuity, usually a single story writer so it stays consistent.
Comics changes hands so much and also don’t understand that a story just needs to end sometimes. Soul Eater and Fire Force can be enjoyed separately but if you want to enjoy them as a continuity, you can.
Manga does need a better work environment for their authors though
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14:28 GOD DAMMIT GUMP! youre a god damm genius! thats the most outstanding answer ive ever heard! You must have a god damm IQ of 160!
Great vid
Being exposed to manga for my whole life, reading comics is weird like whats with the change of artist every few chapters? its nonsense and it takes away my connection to any of the characters in the previous chapters like goddamn some of them looks completely different even uglier in some aspect
Manga are avalibe in any actress white niche comics are in dead comic shops
Reading older manga is still easier to do and cheaper. Same with watching old anime.
I'd say the poltics angel is about wether or not there's nuance or if it directly tries to preach to you. Lots of people seem to confuse this with not wanting politics. So here I'll put the monkey wrench on everyone else back. If a religous writer practically shoved their version of salvation and morals and religion into sections of the book and dialogue wouldn't you be sort of annoyed? And then imagine if waves of books do it. Imagine if a character like dare devil that is clearly catholic adopts a different religion out of nowhere and his character changes. We'd be annoyed right? This is a change in a character thag didn't need to happen. Perhaps are loss of faith could make a compelling plot with characters but see that's a compelling nuanced idea. And now change the terms of religion to politics and now that's why people get annoyed. It's often the most in your face thing so naturally it draws more eyes. Although I agree with all the points here that also say why because they also factor into it. But the truth is that if they were stronger in other areas most people would tolerate it I think. They aren't and so most people are left with "well why would I buy this?" And I can't blame people for feeling that way.
"I'd say the poltics angel is about wether or not there's nuance or if it directly tries to preach to you. Lots of people seem to confuse this with not wanting politics."
It's fundamentally PROPAGANDA because it IS political agenda masquerading as story or comic etc.
That is also why people hate it so much, the same way that regimes such as communism or 3rd reik also produced blatant propaganda and ruined the culture of those times and nations.
In point of fact, stories don't have to have politics in the same way they don't have to have religion or any other given topic. Eg a Manga could be just about the experience of an adventure to fire the imagination of a young child to entertain them.
The nuance angle is an attempt to convince that ALL cultural mediums MUST have politics in the same fallacy that in an ultra-orthodox nation of some religion, ALL/EVERYTHING MUST be about that religion which is in fact obsession + madness.
Yes if a story is doing politics, then that is abstracted to create either: Allegory (Animal Farm), Satire (Karmen America Volume 1) or Polemic (Battle Royale (more social commentary than politics but it will do).
If for example comic writers wanted to do a gay superhero they could invent a new person but instead they wanted to use Superman and then insert their "The Message" (The drinker's coinage with echoing) which is then turning the comic into delivery platform for propaganda. This is an example only of the description. I'm sure a gay comic character can be done very well eg in Manga or some other source.
Marvel had some great Manga-type of stuff with the "unstopable Wasp" BUT they kinda ruined it with politics.IF they had made it more "slice of life" and Action/sailor moon type of stuff It would had worked better with the new fans.
slice of life is key thing what manga make it special
Modern day comics politics are in your face an doesn’t let think an tell what to think. While mangas let you think that why I think American comics aren’t popular with readers
Here's a personal experience anime and manga is very popular in my country book stores have huge sections upon sections and it their biggest seller mostly kids teens adults and people in their 30 40 read it very mainstream then invincable Came out and a lot of peoole wanted to read the source material and they expected the same quality as manga but they got nothing they got a inconsistent story and bad art and everyone dropped it immideitly none liked it not to mention the comic book store employee said that this isn't even popular read manga instead and comic book are dying industry and thos came from an employee but for benefit of the doubt anime popularity came from the late 90s until now so it always been popular in my country
Manga is doing better than comics in my country as well. You can tell just by looking at the size of the manga section compared to the comic books. Manga used to have about 8 shelves similar to comics but now manga has 14 shelves and comics like not even a full shelf. They replaced the comic books with anime figures and more manga.
Manga will always beat Comics
I have recently started getting into manga and I'm really enjoying it . Marvel and D.C. have gone downhill. is there any manga anyone can recommend???
What genre do you like?
@@adamshadow9881 I like action , horror, science fiction.
@@danielnel4467 OK. All Action - Sakamoto Days or Chainsaw Man. Pure Horror - Pretty much anything by Junji Ito or Blood on The Tracks. (Psychological Horror). Science Fiction - Dr. Stone or Pluto.
And the rest here is a mix of those genres: Jujustu Kaisen. Dorohedoro. Dandadan. Parasyte. Ultraman.
And most of these have an anime, so you watch the first few episodes or so to get feel of the series before you dive deeper in the manga. And in terms manga, the ones that are finished are - Dr. Stone. Parasyte. Dorohedoro, Pluto, and Chainsaw Man. (Technically.) Happy Reading.
@@adamshadow9881 Awesome thanks very much for the recommendations🤙 ill check some of these out and the anime's as well.
@@danielnel4467If yuo still havent checked out DanDaDan I second the recommendation
Is there any manga/anime that's very episodic with no overarching story .
Lots of slice of life or comedy manga is like that, not many action/adventure manga stay episodic for long even if they have that for a while
@@baileythewitchofvoid8784 But is there any that follows a kin to Spongebob or Simpdons and have no continuity in which a character can die at the end but is back with explain reason.
@@nicholassims9837 Yeah stuff like Osomatsu kun or that vocaloid manga were about as episodic as American cartoons
@@baileythewitchofvoid8784 how come some anime has weird words while others have normal words like Dragonball and Sailor moon,?
@@nicholassims9837 Some titles are translated to English some are kept in Japanese
good took take bro
Being labeled a freak and having others look down on you is not a political issue. It’s a social issue. I see people use the X-men as an example of comics being political but X-men is a bad example. Captain America is a better example
The confusion is real. I'll give Spider-Man as an example. I quit after One More Day and Brand New Day. Thank god! Because holy hell it got even weirder. So apparently Spider-Man returned to his super science roots... then I quit reading and tried to return years later and... Doc Ock's mind got into Peter's body and now he's Spider-Man? And I think that's been reversed... WTF?!?!?!
You can't just leap back in. It's too much of a mess.
And if you think that's bad... X-Men. I love the Chris Claremont run. Now? I have no f'ing idea what's going on and I don't want to spend a million hours figuring it out.
I'd go to manga, but when I do it's usually not to my taste. The popular ones are too trope laden, predictable, and repetitive to me. I couldn't just jump into Dragonball or Naruto now. It's also too much and more of the same. And I don't know where to start for something more to my taste. So I guess I got nothing.
I'd love to see western comics go back to more consistency. Try not to tie into a too confusing universe and make crossovers special again. Have an art and writing team stay together on a title for multiple years. Look at Chris Claremont and John Byrne's work (or just Claremont in general). Best X-Men run ever, spanned multiple decades.
Western comics commited suicide!! Same clichés !
Manga and anime has always been mainstream number and one and everyone knows them their a billions doller bussines worth more than many everyone buys Thema dn their the most popular sections at bookstores
If you can find me a Manga that isn't boring I'll read
What do you like then? In terms of genre.
@@adamshadow9881 fantasy / mythical
I would recommend One Piece, but that's a daunting task for newcomers. So instead, I say maybe something like Radiant would be a story you would enjoy. Very whimsical and fantasy like. As well with having many bits and pieces of European mythical tales and creatures as a part of story, lore, locations, and characters. And not too many chapters or volumes too worry about. I know it sounds like shameless plugging, but the last video I made was a comprehensive guide and review on Radiant. So check that out for more details.
If you're looking for a little bit more action, but still keeping the mythical element to it. Record of Ragnork is a massive tournament of Mythical Gods and Well-Known Figures in history, battling for survival.
Black Clover would a be mix of the two. Leaning more for action.
Berserk is the father of Dark Fantasy manga. You could check that out. If that's too extreme or edgy for your liking, Claymore, a sister like series, is very similar, but not as extreme.
Dorohedoro is a rather bizarre take on the idea of fantasy. Being a bit more grimmer and unpredictable.
That's just the first five that come to mind, check those out if you haven't heard of them before.
@@adamshadow9881 thank you so much :)
Blade of the immortal
The Sonic Archiverse! WOOOOOO! Ian Flynn/Tracy Yardly really saved the series.
Penders had good ideas but bad execution.
Ian Flynn tends to fall into loops.
@@adamdenardis5438 Explain. What are some of Flynn's loops?
Classic Archie and SatAM is my era. 👌😌
Not a fan of Invincible. I prefer a different take on superheroes. Invincible just pisses me off.
Why?
I personally am over dc/marvel comics. i get a few of other series etc, but mostly manga.
Shaman king
Exactly
Comics aren't woke, it's aiming at yaoi fans. Yaoi fans don't read comics. They read manga which has better art and story. 😂 the same reason superhero fans flock to shonen. Take away superheroes being superheroes and nobody wants to read the comic.
Yaoi has better art? Have you seen how wack yaoi anatomy is at times? There's a reason the term yaoi hands exist
The bias in this video radiates so much. I wish there was a video that touches on this subject without the obvious bias manga love.
“chainsaw man”
“battle shounen”
elaborate
Shounen Devil.
💀💀💀💀
Manga anime jas always beaten us comics niche
Do you pay for read manga?
You technically don't have to if you don't want to own it.
you can
sure but it’s not really supporting anyone
the 9th like be like :|
“There a Marriott of diverse series in manga”
There’s also in comics, but I guess you’re too lazy to search for it.
You got me.
@@adamshadow9881
Yeah I hope my comment didn’t came out as rude
@@thefvguy5648 Nah, you're fine. I can agree that the video does favor towards manga. Mostly from the fact, that's kinda what I was going for, hence the title. Though, I'm not saying that comics outright suck. I grew up with reading over 200-300 issues of different series. And I love some of the stories I've read from then to now. (Every Sonic Comic, a lot of Batman stories, TMNT IDW, Power Rangers, Bone, I Hate Fairyland, just to name a few.) It's just that for the common person and even some of my friends who are admittedly more well versed than me in comics. They would prefer manga over comics 80% of the time.
Most manga is pirated... ouch! i need to buy it? lol