Literally, A Doman Mahjong Guide
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- I can't believe he actually unironically made a guide to Doman Mahjong.
Sources of some kind:
List of Yaku:
worldriichi.org/downloads
FFXIV List of Yaku:
na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...
FFXIV Doman Mahjong official guide:
na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...
Chapters:
0:00 - Boring Intro
1:25 - How to unlock
2:32 - The Tiles
3:37 - A Basic Hand and Melds
4:58 - Riichi, Ron and Tsumo
6:28 - Open Hands and Yaku
6:50 - Yaku High 3 dragon
7:48 - Stealing Through Pon And Chi
8:53 - Yaku High 3 wind
9:56 - Tanyao
11:21 - Kan
13:00 - More Yaku
14:16 - FURITEN
16:10 - No Ten
16:28 - Dealer
16:51 - Scoring
17:50 - Dora
19:24 - Secret Dora
20:13 - Stalemates And Draw Conditions
20:47 - Why are we still here?
21:11 - Winning
21:30 - Waits and Rambling
23:32 - Final Ramblings
24:10 - The end - Hry
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the creator of mahjong could literally come back to life and explain in perfect English in the simplest of terms how to score in it, and yet I still would never understand it.
In hong Kong mahjong, certain combinations, melds and criteria earn u fan. Fan is just a unit of scoring. Fan is translated to points with a table (it’s based around powers of 2 eg. 32, 64 etc). Discarder of the winning tile pays all losses. All three players pay when it’s self pick win
Scoring is pretty simple. I learned it in a day.
People say this but it's seriously not that hard to learn the basics. You need to assemble a winning hand by drawing tiles or taking tiles others discard (via chi or pon, and XIV will prompt you by default if these options present themselves.) With some exceptions, a winning hand is four sets of three tiles each (melds) and a pair, for 14 total tiles. Each "meld" needs to either be a straight (three numbers in sequence and the same suit, such as 2, 3, 4) or triplets (three of the same tile), and a winning hand must consist of at least one yaku (specific conditions and hand types, of which there are many but you only need to know a few basic ones to be able to win games.) The simplest way to get a "free" yaku is to simply call riichi, but this means you cannot open your hand by calling chi, pon, or kan (hence you should generally avoid using these options *unless* you already have at least one yaku in your hand, or would gain a yaku by making the call.)
XIV will generally make good recommendations for which tiles to discard, and tends to favor not giving up tiles that would let someone call ron (completing a winning hand by picking up your discarded tile, which means you bear the brunt of the points cost.) It will not always result in optimal discards, but it's enough to get you started. Just discard the tiles it recommends for your first few games, get used to the flow of games, and then begin trying to understand *why* it's recommending you discard those tiles. In many cases you might want to discard a different tile, but that knowledge will come with experience.
What was recommended to me, and what I recommend to other newbies, is to keep your hand closed and pursue tanyao - this means your final hand cannot have any terminals (1's and 9's) or honor tiles (winds and dragons.) If you kept your hand closed, this lets you call riichi when the time comes, and makes it easy to score 2-3 han (basically what determines how many points your hand is worth, with each yaku having an amount of han assigned to it) without much hassle. And since you are only focusing on a single yaku (tanyao), it keeps things digestible and easy to focus on while you learn the flow of the game, learn how to watch what other players are discarding, etc.
I made this one nice and boring. Just for you.
I'll probably be wrong about something, but I did my best.
Jokes on you I enjoyed it thoroughly :)
Jokes on you, it was nice and I play mahjong 2 or 3 times a week. Give me that friend Id on Mahjong Soul. And good choice, Gyaru in kimono is a top tier waifu
Absolute Legend.
It's okay, I'm less clueless about it now. Still can't win because I suck at it.
As a casual Mahjong Master based in Kujata - first of all. THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS GUIDE
Honestly mahjong is pretty tucked away in FF14 and there's practically no gain from playing it in-game so it's crazy that you went to the effort of making a guide.
The only thing I might pick on this guide is that the Dora indicator in FF14 indicates the Dora itself, it basically does the 'next tile' calculation for you - really weird for anyone with experience with the game from other places since your instinct will tell you to +1 in your head but it's already been done. You have to work back from the Dora indicator in FF14 to figure out what tile is missing from the pool. Again no idea why they decided to do this, but it's just how SE designed it and you might want to clarify this in the video.
Aside from that, honestly a really great guide and love that you sectioned it into various categories so people can easily come back to a part if they need a refresher.
claiming to be boring and then proceeding to give the most in-depth and entertaining mahjong guide for the ffxiv community?
it's his humble nature, the true duality of man. it's his strongest moe trait
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You misspelled Mishappen but cringe and superior
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@@warawutboonprasert4067 Easy for you to say
I started the video out strong, but by the end I turned into Hank Hill.
"Do I look like I know what a "Tsumo" is? I just want my god dang orchestration roll"
There's an easy way to know what Tsumo is, which is using the its kanji/chinese form.
Tsu = self, mo = touch.
So it means a self-touching victory.
A mastrubatory ending for not letting anyone else "help" you with your tiles.
Pretty funny that Hank Hill would even understand what an orchestrion roll is
@@dongster529Ah good, a way for the degen mind to understand. Ty
“I really like recycling this clip” bruh I didn’t even notice I’m so lost lol
19:30 Slight mistake: Uradora is only scored if you win with a riichi hand. If you win a round with a closed hand, but not through riichi, then you do not score uradora.
Somehow 20 minutes in the Summoner guide seems more understandable than 5 minutes of Mahjong
Ikr
i played lol 5 hour and i dont understand on the other hand mahjon is pretty easy to pick up
i did not understand any single word in this video, 10/10
Reminds me of when Homer tried to do his own foundation repair
i unironically really needed this guide
Literally always wanted to learn.
Update: I totally haven't been playing/learning Mahjong for 3 hours or more now.
Cant believe there’s another person in Aether that plays mahjong
@fumanchu168 programming AI for mahjong is probably harder than programming a trust group for an ultimate.
Make me glad I played on JP, mahjong que is so fast here
I feel kind of lonely playing mahjong on Zodiark :(
I saw someone with Mahjong Master the other day. It was more surprising than running into a Necromancer.
This has the same energy as Papyrus explaining how to play that tile puzzle game
I wish Mahjong were that easy.
25 minutes later, I feel I have bachelor's degree in Mahjong and STILL don't know how to play Mahjong.
To be fair, that's what many bachelor's degrees feel like anyway
I just finished my second year in my Computer science bachelors and I don't feel any better as a programmer lol@@Dreadskull91
@@Dreadskull91 and then you get a job and you only use 5% of what you learned
I’ve queued for grandparents savage for about 27 years and they have taught me the great rules of rummy. All my years of practice have come to throw moment
This feels like watching your samurai guide. There are too many words I do not know, I have to be looking at the video, and even after that I need to rewatch it again because playing mahjong is harder than not messing up a samurai's rotation all the way to "Midare Setsugekka" twice in a row.
You were one of the last persons I have expected a mahjong guide to come out with.
Also, the JP servers mahjong tables are very cutthroat.
The analogy of all 4 players in tenpai looking at each other and going "Oops" had me dying 🤣
Everybody noten be like oops we couldn't be ready.😅
the madlad followed up on an throwaway joke in BLU video, absolute legend
I’ve been playing mahjong for a very long time (started back on tenhou) and I can confirm this is an amazing guide. If you’re new you might want to rewatch it a few times because it’s a lot of information to take in, but with practice it’ll all make sense in not too long
I never wouldve guessed that id learn mahjong thru a ff14 guide channel.
Mahjong Master was harder than getting all three legend titles. Doesn't help that sometimes you literally don't do anything wrong and still end up in 4ht place and lose 30-35 points when a win gives you like 25 at best.
Learning to recognize when a defensive furiten may be your best choice helps here. If someone calls riichi fairly early and you don't have a strong hand assembled, or your best discards (for assembling your own hand) look to be in the suit/range that they are likely seeking (for example you don't need bamboo but based on their discards it's clear they are looking for bamboo), it can be worth it to furiten yourself by discarding a tile you need, but which isn't likely to get you slapped with a ron. You will almost certainly not win that hand, but you are also protecting yourself from getting mugged by a ron call. Of course they could just end up getting tsumo, but that's card games for you.
Thank you, this video was really helpful. Its finally confirmed to me that, no matter how good the explanation is, I will literally never understand mahjong. It'll just have to be a game I appreciate from afar. And use to cheat items to win at in Yakuza.
Finally, the true endgame.
nope thats still fashion, mahjong is the endgame of manderville though
@@TheGhostFart You need fashion to properly show off in Mahjong, for which you need to be able to beat all content to really work with outfits.
Truly FFXIV is a game were all modes are connected.
this ^
This is the guide we all asked for I rate it 10/10 would felve Cleve again
I'm just gonna save this video for when I inevitably need to do mahjong in another Yakuza game
for those interested, the pdf for Riichi book 1 by Daina Chiba is available for free and it's great for those aspiring to improve.
Just wanna say I used your guide as a starting point and I played a bunch during week 1 asphedelos savage at the npc tables in between lockouts/breaks and now I'm feeling so good about the hands and rules. Wanted to say thanks for helping me get into this!
/me slowly backs away from the screen..
Thanks for the video! You got me hooked on riichi mahjong so much I find myself spending most of my freetime playing majsoul.
A really good introductory video!
I have watched basically every single one of your videos. THIS is what got my sub.
This helped me immensely. I wanted to play mahjong while i'm in que for a duty, and i read about it on wiki and some ff fansites. Didn't understand it at all. Your video is easy to understand, so thank you for taking the time to upload. Cheers!
This is honestly a well put together guide and there are like no good richii mahjong tutorials out there for western audiences. GJ and thanks for showing more about this crazy rng game!!
Great guide! I'm going to recommend this video to some friends who are interested in learning Mahjong, since you did this better than I ever could.
>Four Westwind tiles
>Westwind
So those tiles are the most powerful tiles right
dont forget to jump off at 5%
They used to be but they were nerfed in a recent patch.
Man honestly thanks for all the data on that. I've been playing it for awhile but there's still so much
I was watching one of your old videos, and you were saying something about trying to get to 10k subs. Year in review, and you're at 60k. So glad I found this channel. You've helped me a lot with the guides you make, even if some of them are satire-laden (I don't mean that as an insult either you are one funny fucking guy)
I hope your channel growth continues. You deserve it.
Dude finally a guide on Mahjong i've been looking for this
I will say that I learned by watching many different tutorials and watching them multiple times. Its a commitment at first to understand but not too bad once you get over the initial learning curve. So dont give up people if its confusing!
Finally something as hard as the Mist Dragon from The Burn
The Aether Mahjong base is so small it eventually becomes a secondary friend list were you have no one added.
Kudos, whatever helps grow the western Mahjong scene is appreciated
THANK YOU! I NEEDED THIS GUIDE!😀
Thank you, wonderful guide :)
Never been so captivated by something I did not understand.
Incredible video.
I had no idea what's going on but I just like to hear your voice honestly so thanks I think? Good guide probably 👍
Believe it or not, I loved this video! I've taken a liking to Mahjong and still learning about it. My friend hates when I play it though cause he doesn't see why I'd waste an hour playing a game or two lol
He actually did it the madman
Finally, I can complete all gold saucer weekly logs
Something in my head just goes "ding" when i hear "Greetings travelers"
Thank you for this great guide, though I will continue to ignore all strategy and play exclusively for Thirteen Orphans in every game.
Literally the guide I needed. Hah, suck it, you were helpful!
Here it is, what we've been waiting for
Finally... The guide i been looking for
You are a treasure to this community
This is what i needed most in my life.
I stumbled across some Mahjong Soul stream today and it inspired me to go back to Yakuza and finish my completion. I appreciate the tips. Maybe when I'm resubbed to FF I'll queue for some.
7 minutes in... when do I start to understand anything thats going on? So lost right now
As someone who grew up playing both versions of mahjong.
It's free real estate! :D
Mahjong master title was a real grind... wish there were more people playing for faster queues :^(
I am very, very, very confused by what is going on in Mahjong, as a person that's never played Mahjong, but looks fun.
18:30 This is actually not the default in Doman Mahjong. In Doman Mahjong, the tile that is displayed is the tile that is receiving the dora bonus. Although this display can be changed to normal riichi in the mahjong settings.
You can tell what setting is which by the description next to the Dora indicator. If it says Doman Mahjong, then the displayed tile receives the bonus, and the previous tile is missing from the wall.
He actually did it, I love u chair
Now this is what I subbed for
I have been trying to get into REAL mahjong for YEARS. I can only assume this will perfectly explain everything about the game.
Why did I finish watching this 25 minute video when I've been playing multiple variants of mahjong for over a decade, years before I even played FF14.
Some minor "corrections" or things i didn't see in the video:
-Uradora only taken into account when you win via riichi.
-Technically a match can last much shorter since (depending on the game) the match also ends when a player hits 0 points.
-Depending on the game, the on-screen display might display either the dora indicator or the dora itself, some games have a setting for it. If I remember correctly, Doman Mahjong displays the actual dora instead of the proper dora indicator as a default setting, but you can change it in the settings under your Gold Saucer's Mahjong tab. Also, instead of greedw, you can memorize that just as alphabetical order.
I've just unlocked the Golden Saucer today! Perfect timing! As if I needed more excuses to stay in the saucer! xD
He did it, the absolute mad lad
I had a two day phase of learning riichi mahjong and all of those spent reading the website. If this guide came out sooner, xD anyways, good vid. Ive reached 1800 already and have paused playing the game momentarily to focus on msq lol
I really needed this!! I think I need to rewatch it 10 times to get my dumb brain to understand though 🤯
This is taking so much brain power to even attempt to understand 10% of what you’re saying and so far I’m only about 4 minutes in
He did it, the utter madlad made a mahjong guide
I briefly made the mistake of trying to go for the mahjong achievements because I was winning a lot and getting my rank points pretty close to , then got blasted back down into the 1600s after a couple games of people just bumbling into tsumo every hand.
Not worth the angst.
I can't even get past 1500. I know what to do but I get no hand going(one time it was none stop dragons and winds), everyone else seem to riichi no problem, I get ron'd like crazy, only ever get a tsumo/ron once a blue moon and It just 1k or if it big I lose it with constant rons. This is both with people and npcs.
I feel like I understand more than I did before this video, thank you! (oh crap also on aether data center).
You have no idea how much I appreciate this guide, I skipped the in-game tutorial of the quest cutscene because I thought I knew what the hell I was about to play. You see, when I was a kid my grandma used to play this computer game called mahjong, where a bunch of mahjong pieces were scattered across a board and your objective was to make combinations of 2 pieces that were on the edge of the figure the mahjong pieces formed, I should've know better a fucking cassino wouldn't make me play a game like that
The most important guide of all time.
Yes. Finally. The only guide that matters.
YES LETS FUCKING GOOOOO, A MAHJONG VIDEO!
went from 1850 to 1640 thanks to your video, gotta love aether advanced rooms.
well done the lad did it!
i love mahjong so much
Woo mahjong guide!
Watching this full video every turn
hell yeah, count me in! i've always wanted to get into mahjong but it didn't make any sense, and i never played yakuza. im in, when i get home i'm queuing up.
The tone and cadence here reminds me of Casually Explained.
I could listen to it for a very, very long time. ^^
You did it, mad lad
Im dumb. i was looking at the ffxiv characters tiles thinking they were madeup characters, until i realized they were actaully numbers.
Y'know what, you're right. I'm gonna return to the Aether Majong party, only to be just as lost and confused as I was previously. But I can't wait to play with you and the other 1 player who lives on Majong only some how.
okay - i learned mahjong is like rummy, so i came out knowing more than when i started.
progress has been made
misshapen chair please show me where the erp guide is so i can finally show my face in limsa with a purpose
Comprehensive, yet I am still lost.
Pretty good guide tbh. I remember looking for a good one years ago and there litteraly wasn't one lol
good, I didn't understand sheez after the subscribe
awesome video thou
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS
EDIT: 20 minutes after i watched the video i actually managed to form my first legal hand actually thanks
The mad lad did it
all my years of yakuza have prepared me for this
Great video! I won't retain any of it!
the fucking madlad actually made a mahjong guide
Holy shit it’s here!
Because of this video queues became instant these days
No way, the madlad did it!
After studying the instruction manual several times, played several times against novice-bots and 3 times against humans and several times watching your guide i finally start to get the hang of it.
I like this game, but oh fuck is it unnecessary complicated sometimes (especially furiten is mindboggling sometimes). Also: calculate the score seems like another nightmare i would never want to do manually.
Anyway: Awesome work! You opened another fun game to my world. Thank you! Sadly i m on european servers :D
I don't think I can play this without someone(ie the computer) telling me this is correct, this rechii time or whatever.