The Wreck of HMS Victoria - Sticking Straight Out of the Bottom

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  • čas přidán 25. 05. 2024
  • Some shipwrecks are famous because they were famous ships. Johnston, Hornet, Musashi, to name a few. Others are famous because of how they ended up on the bottom, like Britannic. And still others are famous because of how plain weird they are.
    HMS Victoria is a prime example here. An old battleship that managed to spear into the bottom, more or less straight down. The bow is buried in the mud, while the stern points towards the surface. Somehow, even after well over a century underwater, the ship remains in this position.
    She is, as a result, a curiosity. And a popular diving spot, for those experienced enough to try.
    Videos on the Wreck:
    • HMS Victoria Lebanon 2...
    • HMS Victoria
    www.dailymotion.com/video/x8h2m4

Komentáře • 66

  • @cdfe3388
    @cdfe3388 Před měsícem +35

    For context, Admiral Tryon was a very intelligent and forward-thinking officer. He had been trying to change the Royal Navy’s complex, unwieldy, and obsolete system of battle signals, as well as the long standing practice of demanding that captains follow orders to the letter and exercise zero initiative. Tryon wanted his subordinate captains to think for themselves, and had adopted a practice of giving deliberately stupid orders during training to force them to engage their brains. He also had a standing order to all the ships in his fleet that they were to ignore any signal that would result in hazarding a ship. Additionally, Tryon was sick on the day of the disaster, but insisted on carrying out the exercise in spite of his illness, and thus wasn’t at the top of his game.
    Tryon was a brilliant commander who had a really bad day, and has been repeatedly scapegoated for it ever since.

    • @alanh1406
      @alanh1406 Před měsícem +2

      I wouldn’t mind seeing full documentary on the man’s life or reading his biography.

    • @cdfe3388
      @cdfe3388 Před měsícem +2

      @@alanh1406 Drachinifel has some good stuff on Admiral Tryon and the Victoria disaster.

    • @ELCADAROSA
      @ELCADAROSA Před měsícem

      @@cdfe3388
      HMS Victoria - Guide 210
      czcams.com/video/SUsOPKVkOgM/video.htmlsi=ehdkwuF48Bhkw_GE

    • @Booze_Rooster
      @Booze_Rooster Před 29 dny

      @@cdfe3388 Intelligence and forward thinking only work if you articulate what you are forward-thinking about instead of embarrassing another officer commanding another ship in front of the entire squadron via signals after he hesitates to execute your vague orders and hopes that you unfuck yourself.

  • @larryw5429
    @larryw5429 Před měsícem +46

    I bet the 100 feet in the mud is perfectly preserved starved of oxygen and microbes and salt!

  • @doktorjohann4883
    @doktorjohann4883 Před měsícem +23

    About 10 years ago a diver claimed to have found Admiral Nelson's sword from Trafalgar in a compartment next to Admiral Tryon's cabin, along with other artifacts that Tryon supposedly collected. Apparently the good Admiral was quite a fan of Nelson and collected Nelson memorabilia, none of which the family possesses today, thus it follows to reason that Tryon's collection of Nelson artifacts went to the bottom with Victoria. A model of HMS Victory was removed from the wreck in 2004, so this is at least plausible. Of course, the diver then hid the sword in another part of the wreck to 'keep it safe from looters' and declared they would only hand it over to the British MoD, which is not the worst idea really, but makes me think it is more fish story than real story.

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 Před měsícem +3

      I really wouldn't trust the current MoD with it. Or, come to that, with anything else.

  • @ironkeko4423
    @ironkeko4423 Před měsícem +16

    Speaking of the I-400 Class, I'm Excited for that Video

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 Před měsícem +11

    I believe it is true that at the same time, Adml Tryon walked soundlessly through a reception at his Chelsea (London) home and into his study. seen by so many guests only one account states that he left pools of water. I often passed his house.

  • @Montana_horseman
    @Montana_horseman Před měsícem +12

    The vertical orientation is unique but how large Victoria really is and how much of her bow impaled the sea floor stuns me. Always a thumbs up Skynea History. 👍

  • @tonyennis1787
    @tonyennis1787 Před měsícem +11

    The screws are usually made of bronze. I am surprised they have not been liberated. Many wrecks in the South Pacific have been heavily salvaged even though they are marked as war graves.

    • @Skinny_El.Funky6.9
      @Skinny_El.Funky6.9 Před měsícem +5

      Guess the Chinese metal scrappers havent found her yet

    • @tonyennis1787
      @tonyennis1787 Před měsícem +3

      @@Skinny_El.Funky6.9 She's in the Med, people look at you funny there when you bring in a salvage boat.

  • @robertsolomielke5134
    @robertsolomielke5134 Před měsícem +4

    TY. This deserved a deeper dive. RN was bound to have such fatal folly somewhere in it's grand lineage , peace to the lost.

  • @lyedavide
    @lyedavide Před 29 dny +3

    Admiral Tyron was quite the trendsetter in many ways in the Royal Navy. It seems inconceivable that he would attempt to maneuver two lines of battleships as he would have a collection of rowboats. We will never know because he went down with his ship. I wonder if there is any documentation of the pre-exercise briefing that should have been held with all the ships' commanders in attendance, to give us a hint as to what the admiral was thinking and trying to achieve.

  • @firstnamelastname6216
    @firstnamelastname6216 Před měsícem +2

    11:07 , to whomever took that pic I give mad props(pun intended lol 😂), it is truly a striking image!!

  • @joeblow4215
    @joeblow4215 Před měsícem +4

    I'm surprised that scavengers haven't stolen the screws!

  • @DaveMorgansghost
    @DaveMorgansghost Před měsícem +39

    The officer in charge who ordered the maneuver was seen by his wife in ghostlike form after the disaster ,at home, saying it was all his fault....

    • @RebeccaCampbell1969
      @RebeccaCampbell1969 Před měsícem

      Don’t tell me... government offices and the controlled press pushed that truthful story to the public... so the great admirals, the heroes of the empire, were as immaculate as they crown needed them to be?
      Too much power in a single imbecile should be the correct story

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 Před měsícem

      @@RebeccaCampbell1969 Don't know much about Sir George, do you?

    • @allistermcilwrick4302
      @allistermcilwrick4302 Před měsícem

      Of course he was…..

    • @TransoceanicOutreach
      @TransoceanicOutreach Před měsícem

      Computer says No.

  • @Cemi_Mhikku
    @Cemi_Mhikku Před měsícem +6

    I always click videos about HMS Lawn Dart.

  • @benjamintowns9798
    @benjamintowns9798 Před měsícem +2

    I feel like the internal deck may have been wood. It would have been easy to repair after a battle. It explains why the decks are gone.

  • @roadweary5252
    @roadweary5252 Před měsícem +1

    Amazing photos

  • @alephalon7849
    @alephalon7849 Před měsícem +2

    Victoria cuts a different profile from the usual World War II shipwrecks that you cover, and that's before taking into account how she's been vertically piledriven into the seabed.

  • @Stansman63
    @Stansman63 Před měsícem +7

    In my home town there are Victoria and Camperdown streets apparently named after these ships..rumor has it that the town planner back in the late nineteenth century was an ex navy man.

    • @scotttyson607
      @scotttyson607 Před měsícem +2

      Is there an intersection where they cross paths?

    • @Booze_Rooster
      @Booze_Rooster Před 29 dny +1

      @@scotttyson607 Victoria's got to be a dead end....

  • @salisburydiff1
    @salisburydiff1 Před měsícem

    Really enjoy your videos and look forward to the next, thankyou!

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 Před měsícem +2

    Cool great work Sir

  • @bowl-of-chicken-soup7107
    @bowl-of-chicken-soup7107 Před měsícem +1

    There’s a rumor that admiral Nelson’s sword was on the ship when it sank, and is still in it. Her captain apparently looked up to Nelson, and collected memorabilia of him

  • @andrewemery4272
    @andrewemery4272 Před měsícem +2

    The film "Kind Hearts and Coronets" portrays the Alec Guinness character as the Admiral ordering the disastrous maneauvre.

  • @kennethhanks6712
    @kennethhanks6712 Před měsícem +16

    Believe this accident highlighted the problems of mindlessly following orders from superior officers that had become prevalent in the RN the previous century or so and spawned a move to develop more flexibility in command structures. A similar situation in the USN that lost 7 destroyers in a "follow the leader" fiasco off Honda Point, CA in the 1920s.

    • @patrickmccrann991
      @patrickmccrann991 Před měsícem +4

      You obviously know little about the accident off Honda Point. The ships were in a column formation when the navigator in the lead ship turned too early. It had nothing to do with Senior officers giving erroneous orders.

    • @AptWaffleMantis2278
      @AptWaffleMantis2278 Před měsícem +2

      ⁠@@patrickmccrann991they were also using Dead reckoning to navigate, but didn’t account for the heavier than normal currents which were caused by recent earthquakes

    • @kennethhanks6712
      @kennethhanks6712 Před měsícem +3

      @patrickmccrann991 Actually I may have over simplified but a major contributing factor at Honda was that the following ships were relying too much on the navigation of the senior officers staff and the followers were not doing enough of their own plotting to discover the errors/differences in the current estimations and the errors in the Point Arguello rdf info upon which the Commander was relying and had disregarded questions of possible deviations.
      Referencing the Court of Inquiry the court found "That although the "follow-the-leader" doctrine had been navy policy in matters relating to proper navigation--it must be delineated by common sense". The squadron commander bore the brunt of blame with loss of 150 numbers in list of captains. Although most of the other captains were court martialed most were adjudged not guilty but the Secretary of Navy disapproved the verdicts showing which way the opinion winds were blowing.

  • @FordBaFalcon
    @FordBaFalcon Před měsícem +2

    And a crab suddenly had a very bad day.

  • @JGCR59
    @JGCR59 Před měsícem +1

    I always wonder what the fishermen off the Lebanon coast thought the royal navy was trying to do this day by sinking one of their own ships

  • @doctorshawzy6477
    @doctorshawzy6477 Před měsícem +3

    how can you be more unique?

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Před 10 dny

    Regarding the sinking...
    *"OOPS."*

  • @brianwillson9567
    @brianwillson9567 Před měsícem +1

    A very famous story, summed up as 'whoops'.

  • @Redgolf2
    @Redgolf2 Před měsícem +1

    The Russian Rusalka is in the same orientation, can you please do a video of her remarkable state of preservation?

  • @firstnamelastname6216
    @firstnamelastname6216 Před měsícem

    @ 7:02 you point to the front of the ship being the location of the exposed galley entrance, but how can this be if the ship's bow is buried nearly 100 ft. in the mud of the seafloor??
    Just curious...

  • @HardNorthOutdoors
    @HardNorthOutdoors Před měsícem +1

    the Russian warship russalka is also standing vertical in the mud.

  • @therovingrobin5938
    @therovingrobin5938 Před měsícem +1

    The floor would have been wood, not metal and thus, not very strange that it has rottet away

  • @Imnotyourdoormat
    @Imnotyourdoormat Před měsícem +2

    *Looks like she wasn't very..."Victorious" hahaha LOL*

  • @Oleg.S.
    @Oleg.S. Před měsícem +3

    Есть ещё один корабль находящийся на дне в вертикальном положении, это башенная броненосная лодка «Русалка» - броненосец береговой обороны российского императорского флота, затонувший 1893 года у берегов Финляндии.

    • @PhantomP63
      @PhantomP63 Před měsícem +2

      The Great Lakes rail ferry Ann Arbor No.5 is also stuck into the bottom like this.

  • @sforza209
    @sforza209 Před 26 dny +1

    I truly hate the fishing industry and fishing gear. The amount of pollution and hurt to the environment is incalculable.

  • @mnoliberal7335
    @mnoliberal7335 Před měsícem +2

    Didn't even mention the pale, swollen leg floating center-left, 13:35 in one of the photos? Probably stirred up by the ROV or divers. You can even make out a sock.

    • @19GAME
      @19GAME Před měsícem +4

      huh? i dont see it

    • @-NINE-THREE-
      @-NINE-THREE- Před měsícem +2

      8:35 and it's not a leg you muppet 🤣

    • @PhantomP63
      @PhantomP63 Před měsícem +1

      Do you mean 8:35? I doubt there would be any remaining flesh after so many years. Kamloops has “Whitey” floating around the engine room, but he’s also in very cold fresh water.

  • @tomyorke3412
    @tomyorke3412 Před měsícem +1

    She is a grave divers should stay out of her unless given permission

    • @ShadowsOnTheScreen
      @ShadowsOnTheScreen Před 22 dny

      I bet you are the real life of a party.

    • @tomyorke3412
      @tomyorke3412 Před 22 dny

      @@ShadowsOnTheScreen Men died inside that ship its a grave site out of respect people should just stay out. Its like if random divers started to go inside the USS Arizona you think people would be happy about that. Keep your moronic comment to yourself.

    • @tomyorke3412
      @tomyorke3412 Před 22 dny

      @@ShadowsOnTheScreen Its a grave site leave it alone. You think people would be Ok with random divers going inside the USS Arizona.

  • @RebeccaCampbell1969
    @RebeccaCampbell1969 Před měsícem +1

    The Royal Navy: great men always in charge sending ships and their crews into certain destruction...
    HMS Hood
    HMS Prince of Wales / Repulse
    And of course those poor Cruisers at Jutland
    Merits? What are those

    • @dovetonsturdee7033
      @dovetonsturdee7033 Před měsícem +1

      Er. Not in any order, and only a small selection.
      The Armada.
      The Glorious First of June.
      Camperdown.
      Cape St. Vincent.
      Quiberon.
      The Nile.
      Ushant.
      Trafalgar.
      Falkland Islands.
      Jutland.
      Bismarck Action.
      Pedestal.
      Matapan.
      Neptune.
      Would you like some more, or perhaps you might simply buy a book?

  • @AndreasGlad-rq7vx
    @AndreasGlad-rq7vx Před měsícem +2

    Notice to all WOMEN: "do as i think, not as i say" Leads To Things Like This. BE. CLEAR.!