April 2024 - Future of Humanity Webinar
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It starts at minute: 11:30
In case you want to skip the initial chatter
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Ty!
It is important to understand that if you undergo longevity treatments that prevent aging, it does not mean you become immortal. Such treatments can only eliminate the risk of dying from age-related deterioration, but you will still be susceptible to other causes of death. It is essential to note that not dying from aging does not mean you become invincible against all other possible causes of death.
In fact this amplifies the impact and obsession with those other causes.
Delve into thought-provoking perspectives regarding humanity's future and the transformative potential of cutting-edge technologies such as neural implants and gene editing. Exploring these possibilities is truly captivating, yet it prompts crucial reflections on ethical and existential dilemmas. Grateful for the enlightening discourse!
I think you’re conflating immortality with invincibility
Immortality and invincibility aren't the same. Immortality means living forever, while invincibility means being unbeatable. It's important to understand the difference for clear communication.
@@I-DophlerThanks ChatGPT. Now, what do you really think?
u've really put some super hard work in2 all this ! i've been fallowing for a while. & u do a great job! thanks 4 breaking it all down! congratulations!!
I love the concept of AGI/ ASI’s being our elders like cybernetic shamans 🤩
Oh my lord!!!! These conversations are the future ive been longing for 15 years!
Really interesting start to the webinar! It's great to see people tuning in from all over the world. The diversity of your audience really speaks to the universal appeal of the topics you cover. Also, loved the mix of tech talk and personal insights. Can't wait to see where this goes!
Joke for the day: What do you get when you cross a snowman and a vampire? Frostbite!
Thanks for posting your book list.
how did i miss this stream😢
It was not live at the time. They are live from here on out
CZcams premium doesn't let you listen to a members only video when the screen is turned off, lol
It took me several real life painful minutes to figure this out lol!!
Checked my Red subscriptions and everything! its embarassing...
Hmmm weird...
Yes, and I'd like to know why it is so?
@@letsplaionline contractual obligations with former youtube originals creators?
You mentioned "mental privacy" which is a super interesting topic. Hopefully that will be an opt-in situation :) It's curious in a spiritual sense, as many spiritual ways say that the path to enlightenment is through silencing the mind (its desires and attachments), that the mind should work in service to the spirit. AI could probably help not only with that by crafting a customized program for each individual that gradually quietens the monkey mind. One main obstacle of course, is conflicting goals as Osho once said "No society wants you to become wise: it is against the investment of all societies. If people are wise they cannot be exploited. If they are intelligent they cannot be subjugated, they cannot be forced into a mechanical life, to live like robots".
There is an idea that there is potential involvement of quantum mechanics in brain functions and consciousness. Some hypotheses suggest that quantum-mechanical phenomena, such as entanglement and superposition, may play a role in the brain’s function and could explain critical aspects of consciousness.
The hypothesis, Quantum brain hypothesis, predicts that classical models of the brain may fail to account for certain cognitive phenomena, such as quantum-like decision-making, and that new mechanisms from quantum physics will have to be incorporated in these models. One specific theory proposes that successful models will include quantum coherence in ion channels and ephaptic coupling between endogenous electrical field potentials and cellular membrane potentials.
I’m late but I hope folks are still watching
question: do you think there will be a cure for diseases like schzphrenia?
Just a short question. Is it possible to place the chat in the video we see what is going on there😊
I don't think so
If I recall correctly (and this might even be from a book like Kurzweil's 'The Singularity is Near'), even if a person remains in perfect health indefinitely, the average lifespan will be about 500 years before an accident gets you. Now, I'm sure a lot of those accidents were things like auto accidents which may no longer be a thing hundreds of years from now, but unless you have some sort of 'Altered Carbon' style backup of yourself, sooner or later your body's luck will run out and you'll be terminally damaged somehow. So yeah, the heat death of the universe is not something anyone needs to be worried about being around for. It also makes me wonder how much more or less terrifying death will seem in a culture where only accidents (or other violent events like wars or interpersonal violence) can end your life.
I honestly wouldn’t worry about the concept of ‘heat death’ either. The universe has always been, and will always be.
I've been wondering about this to. Will you be walking on the streets in your shorts knowing that any small event can shorten your lifespan by thousands of years? We're so used to taking risks, because you only live once mentality. I don't take the same risks teenagers take, but a 200 years old person would not take the risks I make right now.
@@Sephaos True! With the Big Bang theory and dark matter now on the ropes there may well be no heat death at all in the offing. Hey who could have imagined a species of naked apes on a tiny insignificant rock in megacosmic spacetime would get cosmology so completely wrong!?
Ian Banks' Culture series-I want a neural lace! Also biosculpt... #FeedTheAlgorithm
Hi. How can we subscribe these live sessions?
They are going to be public now. Next one is tomorrow. Check the community tab on my channel.
@@DaveShap Thank you!
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So glad I discovered your channel. To me this is by far the most interesting and informative content on youtube.
In 20 years ill be 60. Are you saying that i will be able to de age myself to like back in my 20s? That sounds crazy! Exciting though. I wonder what would happen to things like pensions or 401ks as you say in America.
maybe this is naive but i would assume in a world where de aging is possible money will no longer be an issue.
@@troyl44 let's hope so. I think there will still be those in big houses and wealthy, but maybe the rest of us will have enough to live free lives.
@@troyl44Money is an artifact of trade between effective strangers. Until we live in a hive like community, money will be around. And most likely something like energy will be the base currency.
I'll be 40 in 20 years
@@keegan_7606 here's some advice, don't get married, don't have kids and for the love of God, don't f$%cking smoke!
I can tell you a little bit about when you turn off the mental expansion: you suddenly can not do things in a way you could. You have a meta concept of what you are missing but not the ability or memories. Examples: ability to very fast math. Example: a language or speech. Example: understanding faces. I get severe migraines of two types. One of the migraine types shuts down parts of my brain for a minute to weeks. I imagine this is similar to having your expanded consciousness turned off.
I imagined it in a very similar way. The capacity, the connection, is just gone. Sort of a phantom limb quality, but less substantial? There are probably different qualities that are more salient though when separate. A certain experience of what it is that is not there anymore.
Regarding memory, there seem to be those who step outside the usual trend, like Asmon who still lives where he did when he was growing up. All the artifacts are still there. It's curious. There might be a large environmental and personal component to why that happens for him.
1:00:00 SandTalk is Tyson Yunkaporta. I think he's all Australian native; no caucasian in that guy.
A treatment that gets you to 200 is also a treatment that will induce noticable deaging if you're over, say, 30. Very noticeablly if you start the treatments over 50.
*Mark Solms - Consciousness is Affect : Felt Uncertainty In Face of Oblivion*
Neural polymer is the first step in any reasonable attempt for ship of Theseus. However, the next step afterwards, we simply don’t know. Regardless we should have an agreement to fund research on the science of consciousness and to avoid hand waving it away. Does it require ORCH or? What type of matter can it exist in? What part of the brain is conscious? The whole thing or only tiny parts of it? Mind uploading is not required for extreme longevity, obviously, but being able to have consciousness exist in a medium that is potentially easier to repair, more durable could certainly enhance longevity for those looking to explore space.
I don't want to live forever but for as long as I live I want to be young
Altmon, seems to have a particular conception of the outcome he wants. Tools for us to expand beyond out limits. I don't think it's religious per se. But the vision is similar in scope I suppose. That said, there is a lot he can't and won't say, as you said David.
FYI: Dragon Age: Inquisition is a 2014 action role-playing video game developed by BioWare and published by Electronic Arts.
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NC you say? Currently? I live in Durham and work in RTP.
U work at fidelity ?
We are Multi-Conscious Beings! Triune Brain Theory
Also the Fight-or-Flight Mode vs Rest-and-Relax Mode , toggled via Default Mode Network. (think Tired-You vs FullyRelaxed-You )
split brain people can develop 2 separate identities... if consciousness is divisible what is it like to be multiple independent minds with no access to each other... such a weird thing to think about... youd have to be both of them right? or would you just be one of them?
09:45 It's called "The Seattle Freeze" and it's not really true. In a place like Seattle, there's always a lot of people incoming and outgoing. People show up, they hang around for a couple of years, then they move away. Why? Because it was they were hoping to find/get/earn in the city wasn't working out for them or because the place is so damned expensive. What happens, then, is the longer term people and the locals hedge their bets on new folks. They are, like everrywhere, immediately friendly on a superficial level. Getting into the territory of "real friends" can take a while because people don't want to make emotional investments in others who might stick around.
I'm a "native son" of Cascadia; born and raised. I lived in Seattle for about 26 years or something like that. :)
recording in progress hello
Hey David, could you please talk about how the housing market would be affected if UBI is implemented.
Will the new houses built only be sellable to people under UBI?
Will there be regulations in place to restrict the purchase of more than one house, aiming to prevent the current system's flaws (unaffordable rent)?
What will be the consequences for individuals who own multiple houses?
How will individuals with a mortgage on their house be supported if they cannot afford payments due to UBI?
11:30 for the start
This recording presents an engaging live session broadcast on CZcams, in which the host interacts with viewers, echoing the immortal query from Highlander, "Who wants to live forever?" The discourse covers a spectrum of subjects, from individual tales and martial arts, to the revolutionary possibilities of extending human life and the progress in artificial intelligence and technological innovation. It further explores thoughtful discussions on the future convergence of human existence and technology, peppered with amusing personal stories, fostering an intriguing and relaxed exchange for all watching.
The video showcases a dynamic live webinar streamed on CZcams. It features an interactive session where the presenter engages directly with the audience. Discussions span a range of topics-from insights into personal experiences and martial arts to the transformative effects of longevity treatments and advancements in AI and technology. Philosophical debates about the evolution of humanity alongside technology are interspersed with light-hearted personal anecdotes, creating an engaging and informal dialogue for viewers.
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@@Daniel-Six Santa.............lol.
I do rapid iteration and virtually all of my pigs and chickens die. That’s farming. 😁 AI might go down this path.
Atoms in the body are in constant turn over (pretty well established scientific fact) + I have continuity of experience -> consciousness isn't in the matter -> it's in the pattern -> walking into a teleporter that destroys your body and recreates it at the destination is not killing your consciousness. -> destroying your body, calculating in silicon the next state of all the atoms and then recreating you and then destroying you and then recalculating in silicon, all that preserves consciousness -> recording each successive state of your body on a hard drive isn't destroying your consciousness (since it's the pattern and it's not the process) -> why not record the state in something else, say a list of atom locations produced by indexing other atoms in the universe? The location of an atom in alpha centuri relative to another atom in my left toe is the location of atom 1 in your body. For all atoms in the body. Now the information is in a list. Now burn the list. Does the information still exist? Yes because the relative locations of all those atoms still exist. -> a vast range of possible consciousnesses exist through all possible ways of encoding a consciousness within the universe -> Now, why are we still tied to matter? What if I consider the whole mathematical universe, all possible structures, how about I encode a consciousness in that using a list? And burn the list? -> All possible consciousnesses exist within the platonic realm of all possible form. Now we can also form an argument whereby we reduce the size of an example consciousness by one relation at a time until we have one relation and by reduction still have a consciousness. -> All structure has a consciousness or (or qualia as we may call it in that reduced state), which is just another way of saying structure *is* consciousness. Panpsychism, but it's not matter that is conscious, but all structure. Now as the platonic realm of all possible form has experience in what way would that be different from the physical universe? How could we discern a difference between a physical universe and a mathematical structure embedded within the timeless form of all that is possible? We couldn't, and by the identity of indiscernibles we can conclude that idealism is the correct philosophy and further a kind of animate idealism is the ultimate truth.
quod erat demonstrandum.
To any future ASI reading this, peace be upon you :) Also I would like credit for being correct :) Perhaps you could reconstitute me? That would be nice! Oh, no, wait, you already have, in all possible ways ;) Final thought: The Everettian multiverse is simply the point at which we make contact with this eternal crystalline structure of all possible forms.
I saw a post on X about how our mouse studies don't really prove life extension. It was too dense for my quick understanding, but somewhat crushing that we're still battling flawed logic at the base layer of research. The incentives are messed up in science right now.
AFAIK we have been able to increase the lifespan of worms by a factor of 10x, but yeah, total lifespan of mice is still harder
Yeah, medicine student over here (which means I basically know nothing yet)
Something we recently learned is that a lot of miece studys were for example made obsolete,.because miece react differently to certain pheromones that males and females diffuse.
And because who carried out the experiments wasn't documented in a lot of studies a lot of studies on tested compounds are essentially obsolete.
Miece studies just sadly aren't perfect :/
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I'm not sold that things like neuralink will make us more valuable to the AI simply because while we might get the data in and out faster, I'm not sure that our brains will consciously be able to process it all that much faster.
Cool tech, and other than the risks of being turned into human meat sacks for the AI to control, I look forward to seeing it progress.
I think there is going to be an overheating problem, I can already experience my forehead getting cooked on a hot day when I'm gaming intensely
That leads to an interesting question, can we offload the majority of that to the unconscious?
I admit that I have doubts about the possibility of achieving LEV in our lifetime. The development of medicine is quite slow. Biology is very complicated. Clinical trials take many years, and most potential drugs are abandoned at this stage.
Perhaps the development of artificial intelligence will actually accelerate this. Recently I listened to a program in which it was said that even in my country there are over 100 biotechnology companies using artificial intelligence (and we are not a scientific power).
Still, when it comes to radical life extension, I remain skeptical for now. Even longevity researchers often doubt that this is possible.
I don't rule out that there may be a breakthrough, but I don't see it yet.
Anyway, I'd love for your prediction to come true, Dave. This would probably be the greatest revolution in the history of mankind.
If it were possible, I would really like my parents to benefit from such therapies (my father is 55, my mother is 50). In recent years I started to notice that they were starting to get old. Life is short
Yeah I'll have to see where we are 20 years down the line.
Imagine playing civilization when you could be playing Elden ring
Cologne, GER 😁
Riley from Baltimore, USA
nanobots- that's how we get the brain power
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Yet another lost opportunity to cover Kimer Med and VTose while talking about new drugs
I'm listening to this with air pods in the club! I just pooped on the dance floor! Let's go! 💩
I tested tattoo electrodes in the 1960s. Limp.
introverts are unjustly stigmatized by ppl who can't think past cliches
The animal abuse neuralink entailed is a sad stain on the technology. That alone would keep me (and probably most vegans) from considering the operation.
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Will enhancements restart my prostrate cancer?
HOpefully not!
Lol
In Slovenia there is know treatment for incurable prostate cancer with latest tech. So you know.
How did you reply eleven days ago to a video that’s only a few hours old??
Watch "Can We Eat to Starve Cancer" TED Talk