Mojang Is Now Banning Minecraft Mods?

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  • čas přidán 30. 07. 2024
  • Recently theres been a controversial change on minecraft bedrock edition that inhibits modding. Why has this happened, and what are the future ramifications?
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    0:32 - What Happened?
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    5:13 - Why?
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  • @TheMisterEpic
    @TheMisterEpic  Před měsícem +1315

    Quite an unfortunate situation indeed! Be sure to subscribe!
    My Patreon - www.patreon.com/TheMisterEpic

    • @thesharky
      @thesharky Před měsícem +4

      congrats

    • @gusdotd894
      @gusdotd894 Před měsícem +1

      Ok

    • @version1.27
      @version1.27 Před měsícem +7

      I know how stubborn players are i bet there gonna find a way to solve it or do another revolt

    • @kuridragon9099
      @kuridragon9099 Před měsícem +6

      i've been telling mojang were going to do this, most likely they are gonna provide the mods, modders will have to submit and get approved by mojang, and to make it work, they could make the case that any other mod that aren't approved, would be detected and then you won't be able to play at all, even offline.

    • @UmarBlox5124
      @UmarBlox5124 Před měsícem +4

      no

  • @hostgrady
    @hostgrady Před měsícem +18378

    the moment modding gets removed on Java is the moment I don't play anymore.

    • @The_Trident_Master
      @The_Trident_Master Před měsícem +1573

      No sodium, no shaders, no zoom, no minimap, no replays… yeah, that would suck

    • @user-kr6ih2gz5l
      @user-kr6ih2gz5l Před měsícem +1035

      Believe it or not, it's eventually going to happen. MacroHard will want you to pay for mods and 3rd party servers will be forbidden (because of realms)! By that point Minecraft would be so shitty in fact that we would have to code another entirely new Minecraft for ourselves anyway!

    • @Wolfy5854
      @Wolfy5854 Před měsícem +277

      Same I can't play without shaders and soduim

    • @Darlf_Sevil
      @Darlf_Sevil Před měsícem +340

      You cant, they made bedcrock bcs they cant toutch java. Is like burning m9ney and even if they cant destroy all mods ect even if they try.

    • @youtubeSuckssNow
      @youtubeSuckssNow Před měsícem

      ​@@user-kr6ih2gz5lcracked servers are huge. Minecraft wouldn't die, it will just move to pirated software.
      That said, I don't ever see it happening, mods are the only reason a huge portion of the players play. I wouldn't play without them.

  • @aaronkempenich124
    @aaronkempenich124 Před měsícem +5446

    It's ironic that the game that "promotes creativity" is taking away features that allow for more creativity.

    • @J0vile
      @J0vile Před měsícem

      No, it's supplying only people who will make them money with those features. It promotes financial creativity. The only kind C-Suites understand.

    • @urzydkownikplatwormyyoutub2813
      @urzydkownikplatwormyyoutub2813 Před měsícem +90

      ironic

    • @clockwork3494
      @clockwork3494 Před měsícem +296

      "Minecraft promotes creativity, _except_ for that kind of creativity."

    • @DrunkJarJar
      @DrunkJarJar Před měsícem +176

      They are fine with creativity as long as they profit off it

    • @everybodyants
      @everybodyants Před měsícem +40

      This is just so sad. Nothing less. Nothing more.

  • @user-yp7bk5zz8f
    @user-yp7bk5zz8f Před měsícem +301

    Literally, the only reason minecraft has stayed around is because of modding. Without that, the game will no longer be relevant and quickly die

    • @TrippyGOAT3
      @TrippyGOAT3 Před 17 dny +3

      its just bedrock java is safe p

    • @NaturalDonaldo
      @NaturalDonaldo Před 17 dny

      Minecraft bedrock mobile has lots of apps for mods so mobile editon isn’t so Bad

    • @Vorticough
      @Vorticough Před 14 dny +3

      ​@@NaturalDonaldo and what will those apps be without mcaddon support? nothing

    • @NaturalDonaldo
      @NaturalDonaldo Před 14 dny +1

      @@Vorticough yeah I hope Micro$oft doesn’t remove mcaddon support or else I’m uninstalling the game

    • @Pvz606.
      @Pvz606. Před 8 dny

      Nobody uses mods in MCPE, we all use Addons.

  • @jemmathistthegreat7749
    @jemmathistthegreat7749 Před měsícem +531

    Mojang never wanted bedrock to have modding support but they’ve always excepted it for Java, one of the main developers for caves and cliffs (and onwards) is the guy who made aether mod

    • @christopherdark4671
      @christopherdark4671 Před měsícem +48

      People go to the dark side all the time. New car, new house, new world view. The greed grabs their curlies, and they're never the same again.

    • @reik019
      @reik019 Před měsícem +25

      Corosus (The author of Tropicraft) was hired not too long after 1.12 released, and looks like his visions prevail on the worldgen, because the bamboo system was based on that of his mod's, and the proposed desert revamp with the palm trees was once again based on Tropicraft's.
      Good to see him implementing official stuff, but Micro$oft makes it hard to love modern minecraft.

    • @ShockTheMC1
      @ShockTheMC1 Před 13 dny +5

      Yeah Notch is the one who came up with the idea for mods.

    • @rredK
      @rredK Před 11 dny +2

      @@ShockTheMC1 this is not true, nor is the original comment (for the most part). when java was in indev, hackers had modified their servers code to operate differently to the normal game. this was the first iteration of modding, which was, in fact, rejected in practice by notch, as is why it is not permitted to obtain revenue off of java mods. this is not the case for bedrock. addons were put forward to the playerbase by mojang in 2016, with the first two being fully endorsed and displayed on the minecraft website. this *obviously* couldnt have been done without intent from the development teams. i find it silly to claim this.

    • @Nate-bd8fg
      @Nate-bd8fg Před 8 dny

      Accepted

  • @maximilianmusshoff2733
    @maximilianmusshoff2733 Před měsícem +17982

    If Minecraft modding truly stops, this is when the game will die.

    • @SUS5667
      @SUS5667 Před měsícem +148

      minecraft really can't die

    • @SUS5667
      @SUS5667 Před měsícem +78

      it singleplayer game

    • @SUS5667
      @SUS5667 Před měsícem +98

      and plus go ahead ask roblox deal they banning item even got sued by 12 year old

    • @flainfan
      @flainfan Před měsícem +260

      @@SUS5667 what happened with Roblox?

    • @dio_fumo
      @dio_fumo Před měsícem

      ​​@@SUS5667Minecraft mods for both Bedrock and Java are what keep the game alive; without them, it would die. In my opinion, the game itself is already looking bland enough that even if they tried hard to add unique features like the deep dark or the trial chamber, it wouldn't be enough to keep players interested. Just look at well-known Java mods like the Lucky Block mod or the Create mod; they add much more variations to the game, potentially keeping some players engaged. Well, fuck, have you seen the mods Microsoft offers? They're locked behind a paywall. You know you don't want to spend money on those when you can get mods from CurseForge or MCPE for free.

  • @Besthutt
    @Besthutt Před měsícem +3404

    Minecraft:
    Fix your bugs and security flaws:❌️
    Ban Mods:✅️

    • @Leo-the_cat-and_blai
      @Leo-the_cat-and_blai Před měsícem +67

      mojang☕

    • @CoderQC
      @CoderQC Před měsícem +35

      they didn’t ban mods, they just made it harder.

    • @Sajgoniarz
      @Sajgoniarz Před měsícem +19

      It's Microsoft in actually most of their products.

    • @kidsto2612
      @kidsto2612 Před měsícem +30

      They deadass can't just remove code and expect their giant community of programmers to not just fix it like they've done with almost *every* issue. Deadass their modding community has already solved one of the biggest visual issues that dates back to minecraft's earliest versions. Render distance. They have managed to optimize minecraft's horrible rendering system to the point where Porkchop, a modder, has managed to render an entire world with little no framerate drops (albeit hes using up-to-date hardware.). The capitalist idiot's up at Microsoft seriously refuse to fix this beautiful game and instead decide to underestimate the power that the modding community holds over the minecraft community as a whole.

    • @naliskun4222
      @naliskun4222 Před měsícem

      ​@@CoderQC
      (`⌒´メ) no no I'm harder
      (But not actually)

  • @hedwig7s
    @hedwig7s Před měsícem +278

    The weirdest part is Java Edition had official mappings released and yet on Bedrock the exact opposite is happening

    • @cosmic_gate476
      @cosmic_gate476 Před 29 dny +29

      Cause Microsoft has their own marketplace on Bedrock and doesn't need modders eating into their sales, or worse - making free mods that render their paid garden worthless.

    • @NaturalDonaldo
      @NaturalDonaldo Před 19 dny

      Fuck Microsoft

    • @jasonanees26
      @jasonanees26 Před 14 dny +4

      Oh so as a java player I am safe right?

    • @NaturalDonaldo
      @NaturalDonaldo Před 14 dny +1

      @@jasonanees26 yeah

    • @NaturalDonaldo
      @NaturalDonaldo Před 14 dny

      @@hedwig7s man for me modding on bedrock is easier why is micro$oft doing this

  • @Nate-nw3bt
    @Nate-nw3bt Před měsícem +161

    As a long time bedrock player, this is extremely frustrating. Most of my worlds are unplayable now. I have even considered quitting the game for good. Over the years I have had great memories with Minecraft and without mods it's not the same. Big corporations don't even consider the fan base and players. Mojang and Microsoft are money hungry. 😢

    • @favarogrimanti3705
      @favarogrimanti3705 Před 17 dny +5

      If your a mobile person, your fucked from the get go, save for a steam deck and get java.
      If you have a computer you already have java free i believe, so just move to java, its superior anyway.

    • @oozecloud4511
      @oozecloud4511 Před 15 dny +1

      ive seen many games fall because developers didnt listen to the users, i just dont understand why they would go against the users, it keeps happening, i cant believe how stpid these developers can be

    • @shahidrafiquesundrana3323
      @shahidrafiquesundrana3323 Před 15 dny

      ​@@oozecloud4511 fr

    • @IceFlower22
      @IceFlower22 Před 15 dny +4

      @@oozecloud4511 It's usually not the developer(s) choice, it's almost always the top execs who think they know the right way to make more money off of the brands that they technically own... The case where it's the developer's fault is if they're an indie dev and they are their own boss lol. But yeah, it's unfortunate

    • @oozecloud4511
      @oozecloud4511 Před 15 dny +1

      @@IceFlower22 i meant to say who's in charge, im not really pointing everything on the developers, pardon my english

  • @StarGalaxyGirl0
    @StarGalaxyGirl0 Před měsícem +11305

    Mods are what keep Minecraft {at least in Java} alive. This is stupid

    • @Azillia
      @Azillia Před měsícem +334

      Not for bedrock tbh, modding isnr as big in bedrock as most of the playerbase plays on other devices and not pc
      Especially console

    • @folddyy
      @folddyy Před měsícem +446

      Very misleading title and thumbnail. It's only for Bedrock and we still have add-ons anyways
      EDIT, PLEASE READ: I **JUST** realized how much we actually need mods in Bedrock, add-ons are WAY too limited and it could actually be *GAME CHANGING* for Bedrock..
      at the time my opinions were a bit SKEWED because of the thumbnail, made me think that JAVA mods were going to be gone FOREVER after 1.21 and that made me a bit mad, so I was spamming the same reply over and over to the new comments (which was "this video is clickbait and whatever").. (although a few days have passed and my views on this has changed)
      I'm not sure if the removal of symbol files were intentional or not, but I *REALLY* do HOPE that the modloader developers somehow find a way around this, just like how Geode (a geometry dash modloader) devs were able to develop a modloader for the game without any symbol technical jargon stuff

    • @Felipe-rn1gf
      @Felipe-rn1gf Před měsícem +32

      at bedrock there would have to be a modding community for each platform and the consoles would be left out, probably the pc community would have better mods but on the pc there is the java version which has already had a modding community for many years, in addition to the addons They have an interesting proposal and they are multiplatform but I'm sad because modding is over

    • @octaviusmorlock
      @octaviusmorlock Před měsícem +133

      @@folddyy Did you miss the part where *add-ons are incredibly limited compared to mods?*

    • @folddyy
      @folddyy Před měsícem +60

      @@octaviusmorlock EDIT: *Go read my first reply's new edit*
      ORIGINAL REPLY:
      That's why we bedrock players play on Java if we really need the advanced type of mods.. we Bedrock players already know that it's very limited, but Bedrock was meant and designed to be played as it is anyways.
      It's a good thing Mojang offered us (who bought Minecraft from the Microsoft store or from Xbox) Java for free

  • @MajorMeowzer
    @MajorMeowzer Před měsícem +12095

    Microsoft talking about security is hilarious

    • @origamifolder2255
      @origamifolder2255 Před měsícem +681

      Ironic since their adding Recall to windows 11 which is MALWARE straight up.

    • @NotIan0710
      @NotIan0710 Před měsícem +165

      Its very ridiculous on why Microsoft talking about security. I know its because of a virus or something but doing this making minecraft bedrock less popular

    • @JakeTheJay
      @JakeTheJay Před měsícem +100

      Especially since they have a security update meant to fix a massive vulnerability and yet the update can't install properly for some reason, even after you do what you are told. And all that happens is your thread gets locked and you're stuck in limbo waiting for the damn security update to install properly

    • @WeatherWX
      @WeatherWX Před měsícem

      Its gets even better... an APT broke into M365 exchange tenants to the point Microsoft doesnt even know how they got it. CISA / US gov released a report and called out Microsoft on shitty practices such as lack of logs.
      I encourage yall to check it out: "Review of the Summer 2023 Microsoft Exchange Online intrusion"

    • @TheFalseSavior
      @TheFalseSavior Před měsícem +22

      ​@@origamifolder2255they canceled that on the 14th.

  • @BeneathTheBrightSky
    @BeneathTheBrightSky Před měsícem +72

    I really hope people can keep modding Java, my Minecraft literally runs at 20 fps without a bunch of optimization and bugfix mods.

    • @marobrother1751
      @marobrother1751 Před měsícem +5

      Sodium goes crazy

    • @BeneathTheBrightSky
      @BeneathTheBrightSky Před měsícem

      @@marobrother1751 The funny thing is, the main server I play on has a datapack that is incompatible with sodium. I use mostly use modernfix and a few other fps mods.

    • @Titanskull
      @Titanskull Před 18 dny +1

      True, I don't have $100k lying around to compensate for Mojangs garbage programming.

    • @thomas.thomas
      @thomas.thomas Před 17 dny +1

      @@Titanskull just play an older version

    • @trolgeeeeee
      @trolgeeeeee Před 9 dny +1

      ​@@thomas.thomasaton of people want to play in the newer stuff with newer features but aton can't because even with a chunky computer your stuff can very easily go from struggling to keep in 60 to dropping to 20

  • @yeetboiwhatyesplease2095
    @yeetboiwhatyesplease2095 Před měsícem +45

    If this goes on as a permanent change, I don’t personally see bedrock edition surviving much more than 2025.

    • @mininggamer9609
      @mininggamer9609 Před měsícem +6

      for the people who like using addons at least. There is still the kid part of the population who play minecraft normally without addons unfortunately and are the ones that will still support Minecraft Bedrock.

    • @Cztwastaken
      @Cztwastaken Před 15 dny +1

      Microsoft has their money they'll keep selling because people keep wanting it

  • @RealKinetics
    @RealKinetics Před měsícem +1809

    No Mods = No Minecraft.
    Minecraft would NEVER Succeed without the community and the community’s creativity.

    • @EmptyCoso
      @EmptyCoso Před měsícem +95

      indeed, some of the mojang members were also modders before being mojang developpers

    • @RealKinetics
      @RealKinetics Před měsícem +18

      @@EmptyCoso wow I never know that, thx for the heads up.

    • @aghilanmuralikrishnan1416
      @aghilanmuralikrishnan1416 Před měsícem +7

      This is probably due to the revolution saying oh its easy modding

    • @Pink0face
      @Pink0face Před měsícem +35

      @@RealKineticshorses and pistons were originally mods!

    • @RealKinetics
      @RealKinetics Před měsícem +4

      @@Pink0face wait fr?? Wow.

  • @Waterishloki100
    @Waterishloki100 Před měsícem +7933

    why does every studio and company keep shooting themselves in the feet? actually so annoying
    edit: half the comments are the reasons why and the other half are agreeing

    • @version1.27
      @version1.27 Před měsícem +565

      Because they target money

    • @Splarkszter
      @Splarkszter Před měsícem +280

      Thank Microsoft

    • @FondestAlloy56
      @FondestAlloy56 Před měsícem +142

      bedrock is more popular, it will continue to be, it will make more money, this is not a mistake it is a clear and proper goal a firm will go to and make the most money possible. Nothing we can do about it

    • @giabaonn600
      @giabaonn600 Před měsícem

      Clickbait retard

    • @nyantend0
      @nyantend0 Před měsícem +169

      shareholders

  • @rheandilao1125
    @rheandilao1125 Před měsícem +54

    If minecraft stops addons and mods on mobile,pc i will never play its not fun anymore

    • @NaturalDonaldo
      @NaturalDonaldo Před 19 dny +1

      Can u mod on console tho

    • @tristanbraessler5462
      @tristanbraessler5462 Před 12 dny

      ​@@NaturalDonaldo You can now, but... It costs money. Mojang just wants to profit off of a game they didn't even make, nor ever really enhance.

    • @eyeofcthulhu9602
      @eyeofcthulhu9602 Před 5 dny

      ​@NaturalDonaldo absolutely and it's free not whatever the other guy said lmao

    • @eyeofcthulhu9602
      @eyeofcthulhu9602 Před 5 dny

      ​@@tristanbraessler5462stop spreading misinformation you can get free addons on console

    • @SuspiciousShroomDealer
      @SuspiciousShroomDealer Před 2 dny

      @@tristanbraessler5462so I can’t use the Ultrakill Hampter totem anymore?

  • @gabetheanimator_
    @gabetheanimator_ Před měsícem +114

    Honestly, I feel like the modding community is gonna find some way to get around this eventually

    • @Gaming_Nik
      @Gaming_Nik Před 20 dny +7

      Fr they gona decode mc versions and make it so u can code w it xD basicaly custom mc 2.0

    • @wasntwas
      @wasntwas Před 20 dny +9

      Absolutely, there are gonna be people going through the old files to reconnect stuff, and other people looking at any new functions to figure out what they do.
      This will be fixxed and microsoft is an idiot if they think this is all it takes, if they really want to kill bedrock mods they will have to do a lot more noticable and disliked things, especially with this being seen and talked about so quickly.

    • @theworldmachineos7247
      @theworldmachineos7247 Před 19 dny +3

      someone is gonna make a pdb file themselves lmao

    • @NaturalDonaldo
      @NaturalDonaldo Před 19 dny +3

      @@theworldmachineos7247 I thought of that lol

    • @lygencore
      @lygencore Před 16 dny

      Fortunately there are things going on with Mojang's help to address this issue. Although there is no guarantee on what will get out of this yet : czcams.com/video/Hn1gyEJY26w/video.html

  • @ionisator1
    @ionisator1 Před měsícem +6342

    "modding is getting removed"
    "what the fuck"
    "on bedrock"
    "oh ok"

    • @PufferfishVR2
      @PufferfishVR2 Před měsícem +266

      Funny thing is resource packs are so easy to download so they can’t stop downloading

    • @Atlas-the-angel
      @Atlas-the-angel Před měsícem +356

      If I have to be honest, although notch was not a good guy in the end, I would want him to get Minecraft back so he can get it under control.

    • @greywolf9783
      @greywolf9783 Před měsícem +171

      ​@@Atlas-the-angel he is moving on and making new games again, I'm looking forward to his newest project

    • @Atlas-the-angel
      @Atlas-the-angel Před měsícem +89

      @@greywolf9783 true but remember the legacy edition? May be old and “gone” but I still like to play it, it’s faster to load and easier to create worlds. It made me and lots of others proud of his work. And you’re right he moved on, but we all do and sometimes we come back.

    • @berndbernd3464
      @berndbernd3464 Před měsícem +87

      @@Atlas-the-angel what made notch not a good guy?

  • @MajorTomFisher
    @MajorTomFisher Před měsícem +2684

    I can only speak for Java Edition here: Sure, modding has allowed people to exploit the game more effectively. But modding has also allowed us to create better anti-cheats and patch out exploits faster than Mojang does. You have to have an extremely superficial view of the modding community to think it's just about adding Lucky Blocks and the Aether dimension.

    • @awesome-dp1oo
      @awesome-dp1oo Před měsícem +332

      Optifine alone has done more for minecraft than any official updates.

    • @malick9549
      @malick9549 Před měsícem +134

      Yeah, also as many other pointed out some mod features even made it into Minecraft, like Horses, Pistons and even something related to how terrain generates/renders(I don't remember exactly what it was).

    • @FunAngelo2005
      @FunAngelo2005 Před měsícem +6

      Yeah

    • @wilddemur9796
      @wilddemur9796 Před měsícem +47

      ​@@awesome-dp1oo sodium/iris* but yea

    • @Z38_US
      @Z38_US Před měsícem

      @@wilddemur9796 Optifine arguably did a lot, especially when it first released.
      It is now surpassed by sodium/iris and I personally switched to those aswell since they are just better but if it wasn't for optifine who knows if they would even exist the way they do.
      Gotta give optifine credit here.

  • @decract
    @decract Před měsícem +17

    Mojang be like:
    Make bedrock better ❌
    Make it worse ✅

  • @k.willis4800
    @k.willis4800 Před měsícem +18

    Don't they know all the popular minecraft lets plays on youtube are all modpacks? No one really cares for boring plain minecraft. I'm certain they'd lose more than half of their players if they go through with this. The only thing I ever did on plain minecraft is play on minecraft servers, but all my favorite servers changed and are no longer what they used to be so I don't even do that anymore. I only play modded minecraft unless I have someone else to play with but I rarely ever have anyone who wants to play together and now where I live, I have no internet because I would have to get satellite internet and its too expensive.

  • @blademasterzero
    @blademasterzero Před měsícem +820

    Honestly I’d be down to fund an anti Microsoft protest before I’d even consider spending money for a mod

    • @sjfs231
      @sjfs231 Před měsícem +9

      same

    • @GreenlandballNP
      @GreenlandballNP Před měsícem +18

      I'd literally pay for pet simulator 99 than to pay for mods

    • @mothaclysm
      @mothaclysm Před měsícem +18

      @@GreenlandballNP i'd take like 0.0004% more chance to get "mythical" pets in a game i never play over paid mods any day

    • @GreenlandballNP
      @GreenlandballNP Před měsícem +3

      @@mothaclysm frrrr

    • @shadowhuntergaming5499
      @shadowhuntergaming5499 Před měsícem +13

      I would adopt a child rather than paying for Minecraft mods

  • @TheBeaz3
    @TheBeaz3 Před měsícem +3401

    I love spending $40 on a game and then being forced to make multiple $10 purchases for add-ons that have superior versions offered up for free

    • @return_h3669
      @return_h3669 Před měsícem +36

      40$? I thought minecraft cost 30$ (15$ rn because anniversary)

    • @Nyfaria
      @Nyfaria Před měsícem

      @@return_h3669 Correct, it's never been $40

    • @horse14t
      @horse14t Před měsícem

      @@return_h3669 Price can vary depending on what country you're in. In Canada the normal price of Minecraft is $40.

    • @TheBeaz3
      @TheBeaz3 Před měsícem +16

      @@return_h3669 idk what it costs. I assumed it cost the same as legends

    • @return_h3669
      @return_h3669 Před měsícem +9

      @@TheBeaz3 the deluxe edition cost 40$ (20$ rn because anniversary)

  • @Sarcastican_
    @Sarcastican_ Před 21 dnem +35

    I came to Minecraft back when I heard about the Distant Horizons mod. It's such a good mod that truly expands the game.
    If they want to hinder people's ability to do things like these for the community, they should at the very least get off their asses and frequently release actual updates (not 3 mobs and call it a year).

    • @greg-ot4qp
      @greg-ot4qp Před 6 dny

      No shaders, zoom, optifine, DH, yeah this would really kill the game, the day Java stops getting mods is the day i stop playing.

    • @Geme-Thyst
      @Geme-Thyst Před 3 dny

      ​@@greg-ot4qpi hope they don't stop modding

    • @greg-ot4qp
      @greg-ot4qp Před dnem

      @@Geme-Thyst we can only hope, i know the modders will probably find a way around anything they try anyways

    • @Geme-Thyst
      @Geme-Thyst Před 12 hodinami

      @@greg-ot4qp I doubt mojang would stop modding since they are making some of their own on marketplace

  • @trxthsxxkxr
    @trxthsxxkxr Před 27 dny +26

    If they'll stop being able to mod their game, then the game dies instantly. Vanilla is the most boring shit where only trash gets added.

  • @thewintersgem7341
    @thewintersgem7341 Před měsícem +4544

    good ol greedy microsoft, soon enough we are going to need to buy the different dimensions separate as a DLC

    • @version1.27
      @version1.27 Před měsícem +314

      We gotta buy a subscription for each biome now bro 💀

    • @Azillia
      @Azillia Před měsícem +29

      Thats very unlikely, the game will still get free updates

    • @thewintersgem7341
      @thewintersgem7341 Před měsícem +165

      @@Azillia i am just crapping on microsofts crummy works

    • @raspyy259
      @raspyy259 Před měsícem +89

      that's a thing in Minecraft dungeons... the dimensions are a dlc...

    • @eggedsalad
      @eggedsalad Před měsícem +13

      BOY i hope no monkey paws are curling right now

  • @ThirdWatcherMusic
    @ThirdWatcherMusic Před měsícem +1920

    Ironically, this will actually make the hacking problem worse since servers won't be able to have anticheats anymore

    • @pohodovejrybar5918
      @pohodovejrybar5918 Před měsícem +35

      anticheat for what? bedrock lags so much that hacking isnt even possible (i was helping my friend test some addons on his server, I was in the end and he was in nether and when i teleported to him, i wasnt able to do anything (interact with mobs, build, destroy,... when i rejoined, i was back in the end)

    • @CrystallineFoxCF
      @CrystallineFoxCF Před měsícem

      @@pohodovejrybar5918 Bedrock runs off of CPU, so, if you have a good CPU, or, even better, the server box has a really good CPU system, then hacking is possible, a server is usually referring to big servers, not multiplayer worlds

    • @Harudodo
      @Harudodo Před měsícem

      @@pohodovejrybar5918 That sounds like a problem with your computer or device tbh, I’ve played on bedrock servers with friends before and had no lag issues.

    • @nanifff
      @nanifff Před měsícem +143

      ​@pohodovejrybar5918 the issue is with the server not the minecraft it may be a free server with a reallly bad specs

    • @brunch.
      @brunch. Před měsícem +65

      @@pohodovejrybar5918you are completely wrong

  • @Angel-Dust-The-Prostitute
    @Angel-Dust-The-Prostitute Před měsícem +11

    if mojang bans mods; I'll sue them the exact value of my copy of minecraft to fucking compensate for a FULL refund. $69.99 lawsuit...

  • @pupthepikachu
    @pupthepikachu Před měsícem +7

    That's kinda hypocritical because Minecraft/Microsoft's TOS or whatever literally states that they want to inspire(?) creativity in their game. So if they stop modding from being allowed, not only will they be majorly messed up for that, but they will also kill their game IMMENSELY

    • @mangledfoxy2052
      @mangledfoxy2052 Před měsícem

      Ikr? Like I can’t imagine Minecraft without mods, they’re so connected

  • @HypeXesk
    @HypeXesk Před měsícem +1154

    The moment Minecraft loses modding, it loses it's community, no community, no Minecraft, then everyone goes to minetest

    • @babygaga821
      @babygaga821 Před měsícem +86

      or they go to older versions (mojang would prob get rid of the older version launcher or make modding in there impossible somehow)

    • @dorklymorkly3290
      @dorklymorkly3290 Před měsícem +39

      or to vintage story. but that's probably not casual enough.
      (not to say that all minecraft players are casual, but noone who plays vintage story can just casually coast around... outside of creative and all that, anyway)

    • @nicholascine
      @nicholascine Před měsícem +9

      @@babygaga821 BetaCraft and MultiMC are our saviors…

    • @StuffandThings_
      @StuffandThings_ Před měsícem +16

      Yeah for real, I already jumped ship years ago to Vintage Story and haven't touched MC in quite some time, for me the forced account migration and ditching C418 were kind of the writing on the wall that it was slipping down the corporate slope. I imagine others will jump ship too. Minetest, Vintage Story, and even some fascinating new voxel projects like Lay of the Land are far more promising alternatives at this rate.

    • @manicmarauder
      @manicmarauder Před měsícem +4

      @@nicholascine Even there you have to log in. M$ will break their ability to log in eventually, then DCMA their sites when they publish work arounds. SO, make very, very sure you have a backup of the old versions that allow offline mode.

  • @EmeraldWolfYT
    @EmeraldWolfYT Před měsícem +1586

    microsoft talking about security is literally a wolf in grandma's clothing

    • @starryskies113
      @starryskies113 Před měsícem +4

      Oh

    • @lordbeetrot
      @lordbeetrot Před měsícem +7

      Fr

    • @ThePlayerOfGames
      @ThePlayerOfGames Před měsícem +13

      Recall spyware

    • @aiodensghost8645
      @aiodensghost8645 Před měsícem

      "My, what big 👀 you have"
      *All the better to spy on you with.*
      "My, what big TEETH you have"
      *All the better for the data you feed me, dear.*

    • @Yusuf51901
      @Yusuf51901 Před 24 dny +2

      Their antivirus is trash and yet they're talking about sEcUrIty 🤣🤣🤣

  • @SansGamer2832
    @SansGamer2832 Před měsícem +17

    Mods are only the reason why Minecraft is underratedly fun

  • @Iktsoi
    @Iktsoi Před měsícem +13

    The game would be over if they ever took away modding in java.

  • @josephmontanaro2350
    @josephmontanaro2350 Před měsícem +962

    It's insane to think they would bite the hand that feeds them, mods made this game and removing them will destroy it, this is greed beyond belief

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius Před měsícem +66

      A stupid form of greed that makes them think that pissing off the community will give them more money somehow...

    • @guillermoelnino
      @guillermoelnino Před měsícem +7

      What do they care? their target audience are babies that have no ability to mod the game anyway. It's an old game.

    • @Tasorius
      @Tasorius Před měsícem +48

      @@guillermoelnino Not even close to true.

    • @christopherdark4671
      @christopherdark4671 Před měsícem +33

      A company removing the only reason they still exist in the first place? It ain't new. Tumblr did it ages ago, and it effectively crippled them overnight. Java tried to steal from everyone using it and the whole world hoisted the jolly Roger. EA ruined their star wars game by making it a microtransaction nightmare until it crashed and burned. Companies get out of touch to the extent of self-immolation all the time. Let's hope Minecraft doesn't become another sad example.

    • @dylanmyboi7460
      @dylanmyboi7460 Před 28 dny +12

      @@guillermoelnino your comment is falser than every Herobrine sighting combined.

  • @ZarHakkar
    @ZarHakkar Před měsícem +1476

    They got tired of modders showing how easy it would be to add all three mob vote mobs.

    • @julianhernandez5732
      @julianhernandez5732 Před měsícem +157

      Probably true.

    • @ThatGuyRNA
      @ThatGuyRNA Před měsícem +13

      @@julianhernandez5732absolutely not true

    • @MidvightMirage
      @MidvightMirage Před měsícem +109

      ​@@ThatGuyRNA absolutely
      mojang and or microsoft stan

    • @Mark-xk3hh
      @Mark-xk3hh Před měsícem +85

      @@MidvightMirageNo it's definitely not true, like think realistically for a second. It's just microsoft being greedy and nothing else lol

    • @MidvightMirage
      @MidvightMirage Před měsícem +39

      @@Mark-xk3hh actually yea that makes more sense lol

  • @dakonblackrose
    @dakonblackrose Před 20 dny +5

    Some favorites of Microsoft do indeed have tools but they are nothing to brag about they are for the teams that don't have enough experience and to help save time one is a java to bedrock converter and opryze made one as well but people don't understand you can do that free with old mcpe edit or a program iv made that converts any java texture functions or schematics to bedrock besides that addons are limited a little just most people are lazy and want to make a profit with least investment and lack of creativity it makes me mad the price of some marketplace addons that target people who can't make the addons themselves

  • @TruehonestMickeyMouse
    @TruehonestMickeyMouse Před měsícem +8

    “Minecraft is the most modded game in the world.”
    Skyrim music stops

  • @l9m241
    @l9m241 Před měsícem +1761

    "They all suck dude. They all freaking suck." -Thor, regarding why AAA studios are all shooting themselves in the foot this year.

    • @racingraptor4758
      @racingraptor4758 Před měsícem +60

      Many of those studios did not aimed for the foot but for the head. And they got what they wanted.

    • @the_ecips9692
      @the_ecips9692 Před měsícem +29

      @@racingraptor4758 Including a sh.tton of money. They don't care. And it's sad.

    • @racingraptor4758
      @racingraptor4758 Před měsícem +29

      @@the_ecips9692 i know. They ruined their franchises, made the old studios close yet they got paraschutes made out of milions of $ so they fall would not hurt. Its sad that entertaiment industry is literally destroying itself cause its more proffitable short term...

    • @Kimtraviated
      @Kimtraviated Před měsícem +8

      @@racingraptor4758I thought Minecraft were originally to be indie but now it is single “a” game

    • @skycooks2639
      @skycooks2639 Před měsícem +6

      @@Kimtraviated they weren't indi a while ago....mojang should never sold to microsoft if they wanted to sell....sell to sega

  • @HongKongZ
    @HongKongZ Před měsícem +659

    "We need to focus on security!"
    (Removes a crucial anticheat and modding method)
    (Ignores easy exploits and bugs that still work and exist)

    • @GigantTech
      @GigantTech Před měsícem +9

      Removing the PDB files from the client would be fine but from the server, which gets a lot of fixes and anti cheat through it is very shitty

    • @unpotatoedsalmon
      @unpotatoedsalmon Před měsícem +1

      ​@@GigantTechThat is a stupid take

    • @cinderwolf32
      @cinderwolf32 Před měsícem +1

      I agree that this is a terrible move from Mojang, but I think this is the wrong argument against any statements they may have made about security. Mods rarely if ever patch actual security issues (which mind you, ingame exploits / cheats / duplication glitches do not count as: I, and I assure you Microsoft, mean things that affect you in real life. Actual malware). They *technically* are improving security, as easy modification does make it easier for people to write malicious mods like token stealers, or mods that install malware in the background. Java does have some issues with this. I don't think this negative even comes close to outweighing the benefits of creative freedom in the community though, and this greedy move should concern anyone who cares about the longevity of the game.

    • @a.o.e7168
      @a.o.e7168 Před 29 dny

      Protest! RAise your voice and signal minecraft devs to keep mods

  • @xetsuma
    @xetsuma Před 18 dny +4

    this video could not have a more clickbait thumbnail and title. no, minecraft modding isn't not going to be a thing anymore, it's just bedrock. bedrock was already almost entirely impossible to mod anyways so this basically changes nothing.
    also java and bedrock are developed by completely different teams with completely different goals so no this isn't "a sign of things to come", the java team has actually done a lot of things over the past few years to make modding drastically easier for devs.

  • @JJy645
    @JJy645 Před 15 dny +5

    They may be able to take away my mods but they can’t take away my coding skills

  • @TheCounterspell
    @TheCounterspell Před měsícem +1819

    Microsoft try not to milk marketplace for money challenge: level impossible

    • @founded5762
      @founded5762 Před měsícem +25

      Should be better if bedrock creators make the add-ons texture packs or others free

    • @Azillia
      @Azillia Před měsícem +3

      They did spend 2.5 billion $ for the game so

    • @AdvancedGamer-
      @AdvancedGamer- Před měsícem +33

      @@Azilliathey made it back probably quickly after.

    • @AdvancedGamer-
      @AdvancedGamer- Před měsícem +7

      @@Azilliaand if they didn’t make it back quickly after then it made it back by at least 1.16

    • @Felipe-rn1gf
      @Felipe-rn1gf Před měsícem

      ​​@@founded5762bedrock's best-known addons/textures are in mcpedl

  • @smpark12
    @smpark12 Před měsícem +1532

    “Create a problem and sell the solution” ahh update

    • @TheMatsushitaMan
      @TheMatsushitaMan Před měsícem +78

      Say "ahh" for the dentist

    • @BonziBUDDY
      @BonziBUDDY Před měsícem +144

      @@TheMatsushitaMan "say ahh for the dentist" ahh response

    • @Imclinicallyobese
      @Imclinicallyobese Před měsícem +31

      Say ahh for the gawk gawk

    • @134B
      @134B Před měsícem +14

      AHHHHHHHHH im comîng

    • @Scarde0
      @Scarde0 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@134B😩😩😩

  • @ArtsyMold
    @ArtsyMold Před 28 dny +3

    Mojang ever since Notch sell it:
    "Modding? No. Give players what they want while ensuring their safety? No. Make Minecraft better? No. Because we want MONEY and nothing else."

  • @captainhydrodus4616
    @captainhydrodus4616 Před 20 dny +5

    They are prioritizing profit over creativity.

  • @lacijuhos7613
    @lacijuhos7613 Před měsícem +611

    I wonder if it's a coincidence that this is a few weeks after they announced paid mods for Minecraft

    • @AlastorFan5900
      @AlastorFan5900 Před měsícem +45

      i dont even need to wonder. its not.

    • @Bloomkyaaa
      @Bloomkyaaa Před měsícem +67

      Imagine paying for something people have been making FOR FREE for YEARS for the community without ASKING FOR ANY FORM OF PAYMENT.

    • @_YashSawant
      @_YashSawant Před měsícem +16

      Those are Add-ons and not Mods, they can only be applied to Server Side, Mods are Universal and more Powerful

    • @crimsonclaw6337
      @crimsonclaw6337 Před měsícem +6

      ​@@Bloomkyaaa well they also Arent technically allowed to profit of them anyway if i remember correctly

    • @AlastorFan5900
      @AlastorFan5900 Před měsícem +6

      @@_YashSawant after they added worse mods. the point stands.

  • @jyookada
    @jyookada Před měsícem +913

    Didn't mojang get the idea to add pistons from a mod?

    • @brainbomb.
      @brainbomb. Před měsícem +78

      Damn they're that unoriginal?

    • @jyookada
      @jyookada Před měsícem +26

      @@brainbomb. Probably

    • @squidthesquid1233
      @squidthesquid1233 Před měsícem +75

      @@jyookada thats mojang not microsoft

    • @jozsef98
      @jozsef98 Před měsícem +40

      Add Mo' Creatures to the list, along with plenty others

    • @AlejandroMPGx2
      @AlejandroMPGx2 Před měsícem +10

      ​@@jozsef98 Not related to what you're saying but Mo' Creatures is my cousin’s favorite mod

  • @time2bcoolYT
    @time2bcoolYT Před 17 dny +4

    If they ban it for new versions, we could still use old versions

  • @really-real-t-series-not-fake

    Shocked that nobody has mentioned the fact that in last week's preview for bedrock, a feature that most addons use to function called holiday creator features was REMOVED, meaning that mods which may not be updated anymore or can't figure out how to adapt to a system that the devs did a bad job at explaining will no longer work

  • @alias8053
    @alias8053 Před měsícem +563

    i dont think their feet can take more bullets than this

    • @Sinistar1983
      @Sinistar1983 Před měsícem +57

      What feet are you talking about. All I see are nubs at this point.

    • @blastbot7339
      @blastbot7339 Před měsícem +37

      Honestly with how people defend them, they'll never run out of spots to fire at

    • @MrBrineplays_
      @MrBrineplays_ Před měsícem +31

      They're shooting their legs now, then they're going for the arms and hands next, then chest, then lastly, head. Still a lot of bullets to go through

    • @Paradox_Incognito
      @Paradox_Incognito Před měsícem +10

      Swiss cheese can only have so many holes before there isn't any cheese left LOL

  • @jer1776
    @jer1776 Před měsícem +487

    Minecraft banning mods is like The Sims removing character creation..

  • @lordofthe6string
    @lordofthe6string Před měsícem +1

    You don't actually need a pdb file to do these mods, but like you said the names become just random when you don't have it so it's a lot harder to figure out. If you know about the many decompilation projects out there (a Zelda one recently was big news) they are basically taking the random names and figuring out what they do and what to call them to fill in what the pdb file would have had.

    • @kalvon
      @kalvon Před 20 dny

      So basically making the process 2-3 times harder to mod?

  • @Luminescent_GamingHD
    @Luminescent_GamingHD Před 27 dny +3

    ngl if they removed modding i would very much be upset .... this is not ok MOJANG LISTEN TO YOUR COMMUNITY ! we dont want minecraft to die ! we love everything about minecraft mods and more the addons even are amazing and the maps marketplace content and even skins

  • @dcgp4649
    @dcgp4649 Před měsícem +351

    Watch the moment they cut mods out, is the moment Minecraft just stop.

    • @Volvary
      @Volvary Před měsícem +9

      The death of Minecraft, pretty quickly

    • @starleigh6680
      @starleigh6680 Před měsícem +2

      The vast majority of Minecraft players are kids who have never played a mod in their life. Minecraft won’t die, you’re just the vocal minority.

    • @dcgp4649
      @dcgp4649 Před měsícem +16

      @@starleigh6680 "The vast majority of minecraft players are kids who never played a mod"
      Yeah, sure. Curseforge? Never heard of him. Thousands of videos of modded minecraft? Nah, didn't knew about until you mentioned it.
      "The vast majority"

    • @followerofteaandspice1815
      @followerofteaandspice1815 Před měsícem +4

      @@starleigh6680 like 90% of minecraft content anywhere you look is modded??? the rest is either factions or parkour ,,, from 2012.

    • @XboxOriginal1321
      @XboxOriginal1321 Před měsícem +5

      @starleigh6680 the vast majority of players will get bored with the vanilla game as fast as I did, and want to mod. Once they remove that option they will just switch games when they get bored, killing the game.. the only reason to remove mods is because it's not making Microsoft money

  • @SemIdeiaDeNome4
    @SemIdeiaDeNome4 Před měsícem +795

    i don't think it's Mojang who's doing this, it's Microsoft who hates customization and prioritizes money above EVERY SINGLE THING, meanwhile Mojang is forced to follow Microsoft on a leash

    • @Aphelia.
      @Aphelia. Před měsícem +66

      Mojang Studios has two headquarters, Stockholm, Sweden and Redmond (WA), US. the studio based in the US is mainly working on Bedrock. fyi

    • @FantasmaNaranja
      @FantasmaNaranja Před měsícem +53

      lets be honest some of the devs like jeb are famous enough that they could complain without any risk to their own employment

    • @angelquefirestar
      @angelquefirestar Před měsícem

      So Microsoft is basically a dictatorship

    • @J0vile
      @J0vile Před měsícem +35

      The executives at Mojang were helpless when offered money by Microsoft. There was no way they had any choice. Mojang is just as guilty, they knew who they were selling out to. Don't try and pretend that Microsoft bought them without their consent.

    • @SemIdeiaDeNome4
      @SemIdeiaDeNome4 Před měsícem +24

      @@J0vile could you give me some full details? i always thought it was Notch who sold it because he didn't want to lead a big game studio and just wanted to make fun games as a hobby

  • @hominusprogramming
    @hominusprogramming Před měsícem +2

    I’ll add that only a few version ago Mojang released the official mapping for modding (so they don’t really want to stop the modding support for Java at least). Yeah I can understand that is not the same: in Bedrock everything is machine compiled so you cannot understand what happens inside a function without it’s name while on Java you can decompile and read the plain code. That’s, if you want, the major difference: in Java edition even without the Mojang help people can disassemble and fully clone Minecraft and (aside for lawsuit) Mojang cannot do anything because of technical limitations. On bedrock edition however everyone depends on Mojang….

  • @crazycanyon3028
    @crazycanyon3028 Před měsícem +2

    I hope this isn’t going to be in full versions and is just some weird measure to stop people from leaking beta versions of updates or something but I doubt that

  • @HL65536
    @HL65536 Před měsícem +867

    ah yes, security by obscurity. The thing they tell you first day in information security class NOT to do...

    • @Akronymus_
      @Akronymus_ Před měsícem +22

      Technically, they tell you not to only do that

    • @manoflead643
      @manoflead643 Před měsícem +76

      It's never your security. It's the security of their profits.Stuff about it isn't aimed at us, it's aimed at shareholders - at best, it's lower risk of eating a fine for vomiting their databases all over the internet.

    • @ceshmate1953
      @ceshmate1953 Před měsícem +16

      they wanne sell you mods like bethesda is trying to do.

    • @ChrisWijtmans
      @ChrisWijtmans Před měsícem

      bs, obscurity is the first part of security. Like a password, encryption, port sequences etc. are ALL obscurity.

    • @Strawberrykatgenral
      @Strawberrykatgenral Před měsícem +1

      Same thing as what sonny did with fallout 4…

  • @AndromedasCartoon
    @AndromedasCartoon Před měsícem +369

    Another thing about Java modding is that Mojang would likely have to fundamentally change a LOT of stuff about the code since, unlike Bedrock, Java's modloaders are external. Another thing to consider as to why stopping Java modding is literally impossible is because most launchers, including the first party launcher, allow you to change what version you're playing. They're getting rid of Java modding in 1.24? Play on 1.23! They cannot retroactively change the code of a prior version. It's also why 1.2.5 and earlier can be fully played with a demo license, the demo didn't even exist until 1.3, so the game just defaults to the full version.
    Point is, Java modding is going to be exponentially harder to stop than Bedrock modding, due both to external modloaders being the norm and the version archive being much easier to access.

    • @WackoMcGoose
      @WackoMcGoose Před měsícem +35

      Interestingly enough, _the nature of the Java programming language itself_ is the true reason Mojang Redmond (not to be confused with Mojang Sweden, the _actual_ devs of Java Edition) _will not and will never be able to_ stop Java modding. Java itself is (compared to C++ at least) dead simple to decompile and reverse-engineer, even without mappings (which didn't exist for, what, the entire first _decade_ of the game? yet modding's been going on since early Beta!). Sure, you've got obfuscated names, but modders have _always_ been able to look at previously "solved" versions of the game code, go "okay, it looks like this function has the same code flow as this other one, so the name is probably this other one", eventually solving it like a giant crossword puzzle.
      _In theory_ the same can be done with Bedrock Edition, but I'm not entirely sure about that... Decompiling "raw" C++ is obviously possible (hell, look at all the Nintendo 64 projects popping up), but it's not like Java where your decomp is guaranteed to byte-for-byte recompile as-is into the same functionality, you have to "massage" the C++ code back into something that is recompileable, whether you make the names human-readable or not. Current MCBE modding likely depends on that symbol file to guide the decompiler to "do it right the first time", so without it, modders will have to go through the code-massaging process manually before they can start working on actually changing the game code... An _obstacle,_ not a _hard blocker._

    • @Cubeenjoyer
      @Cubeenjoyer Před měsícem +5

      People will stop updating the game on Java version. I already don't really see the point in new versions of the game after 1.18.2, I can say that even after 1.16.5. All the player community and the modding community will simply remain on the old versions and Mojang will not be able to do anything about it, but only destroy its reputation.

    • @mr.p215
      @mr.p215 Před měsícem

      question? Couldn't microsoft/Mojang just remove the option to return to previous versions? Or can't they just replace the java version that gets downloaded when selecting for example "1.8.9" with one that has been changed later, like still 1.8.9 code, but has been fitted with the anti mod tools?

    • @anoukk_
      @anoukk_ Před měsícem +4

      @@mr.p215 they could probably make it harder to host servers with older versions and modded versions but going back and changing the code of older versions to stop modding will likely not work and just cost time and money to do something so pointless to them.

    • @itap8880
      @itap8880 Před měsícem

      @@WackoMcGoose But if you're decompiling a code that has yet to be compiled
      is that still decompiling?

  • @MotoHoff
    @MotoHoff Před 21 dnem +1

    As a seasoned marketplace developer, I can assure you that the recent changes do not impact the development of add-ons through Resource Packs (RP) or Behavior Packs (BP). Any player with the necessary knowledge can still create these, thanks to the comprehensive documentation provided by Mojang. Additionally, GameTest scripting through JavaScript or TypeScript remains unaffected.
    There's no need for concern. If you're a mod developer, consider switching to Java, as Bedrock servers have always been challenging to host. For add-on developers, stick with Bedrock and take advantage of Realms and the new UI. You can still create anything through BP and RP ports without relying solely on the marketplace.
    Remember, mods on Bedrock, especially client-side mods, have never been ideal. Embrace the strengths of each platform: mods for Java and add-ons for Bedrock.

  • @bruhgod123
    @bruhgod123 Před měsícem +1

    Me when i'm in a ruining games competition and my opponent is Bill Gates:

  • @Wraith0x1
    @Wraith0x1 Před měsícem +509

    I own one of the largest non-featured bedrock edition servers "Zeqa Network", this change is extremely limiting our server because these symbols are CRUCIAL to update our server software. If this update actually goes through, the future for our server is uncertain. Mojang has made it clear to us that they don't care about non-featured servers as they don't gain from them.
    My server averages 400 players on most days, once peaking at 830 concurrent players. We have over 850,000 registered players who might have to resort to only playing featured servers.

    • @ItzOrangeyYT
      @ItzOrangeyYT Před měsícem +19

      Ay I've played on your server before!

    • @forest_895
      @forest_895 Před měsícem +10

      What is the server’s IP?

    • @Icynutella
      @Icynutella Před měsícem +4

      Shut up wraith 🤫🧏‍♂️

    • @calabemccool
      @calabemccool Před měsícem +12

      @@Icynutelladid you comment this while streaming

    • @omegagaming609
      @omegagaming609 Před měsícem

      ​@@forest_895Zeqa.net

  • @DanMyth1206
    @DanMyth1206 Před měsícem +259

    Once minecraft bans all modding, it's gonna drop in popularity DRAMATICALLY. Once this happens I'm not playing it anymore

    • @RENO_K
      @RENO_K Před měsícem

      Fucking proxy chat
      Fucking optifine
      Fucking mods to manage servers
      Etc2
      Etc2
      Etc2
      Mods are what makes the games actually playable,
      When they ban modding
      Good fucking luck

    • @timothykarhnak-glasby3153
      @timothykarhnak-glasby3153 Před měsícem +10

      I mean they physically can't at least for Java. The way Java is set up, Mojang physically cannot prevent you from installing mods without changing from Java, which would require basically rewriting the entire game.

    • @Bepdomize
      @Bepdomize Před měsícem

      ​@@timothykarhnak-glasby3153knowing Microsoft though they will probably eventually force everyone to play bedrock edition strictly

    • @pocketsizedweeb
      @pocketsizedweeb Před měsícem

      @@timothykarhnak-glasby3153 Exactly and even if they somehow figure out how to block mods, that won't stop people from backporting the new features into the modable version.

    • @portobeIIa
      @portobeIIa Před měsícem

      @@timothykarhnak-glasby3153 the java version is already pretty neglected. it's not hard to see a far future where it is turned off entirely. their main focus and player base is with bedrock, as backwards as that looks when you're a java player.
      the players are here, the modder are here, we have a community, but we definetly dont have mojang actively seeking how to make the java version better the same way they do with bedrock :(

  • @Reesemike
    @Reesemike Před 21 dnem +1

    Is mojang like actual high? They have to be there is no other explanation because modding have been a major part of their community for over a decade

  • @SoWillOh
    @SoWillOh Před 27 dny +1

    They should be moving to ADD modding on bedrock and ease of access for said mods. Using My Files Explorer isn’t a crime, we’re trying to enhance the experience of a game we like. Modding on bedrock (especially xbox) is extremely difficult. Having to use a third party app with some heavy bugs just to download some enhancements is insane. We’re trying to make the game BETTER for us, not drag it down. The only reason that they want to ban mods on bedrock is to funnel more money towards “add-on”(s). They’re all WAY too expensive for what they do; compared to java mods. I understand that they have different capabilities, but we shouldn’t have to pay $8.99 jut to put trims on our tools. What’s the excuse?
    I think adding a modding client to bedrock as another app/game (so it would be optional for those who want to play entirely vanilla). We haven’t even had shader support on Xbox since ~2019. And NOW they’re working on “render dragon” features.
    Getting real tired of companies being money-hungry. Already lost rocket league trading, at least let me make my comfort game a bit better for myself. SMH

  • @ThePandaOliver
    @ThePandaOliver Před měsícem +701

    Everyone, java edition was literally released without any mappings for mod developers back in the day. What the java modding community did was make their own mappings and the fabric team are still making the yarn mappings today even though we have the official mappings now, and the bedrock modding community can do the same. If mojang decided to stop providing java with the mappings then people would just switch to yarn and continue from there.

    • @ThePandaOliver
      @ThePandaOliver Před měsícem +59

      what i was trying to say is, the bedrock modding community has the old mappings, they can use that and make new mappings for functions, classes and variables add in future versions.

    • @ElodieHeuer
      @ElodieHeuer Před měsícem +60

      @@ThePandaOliver PDB files for older versions are mostly useless for newer versions due to the locations in the binary changing when they modify the code

    • @realzguardian
      @realzguardian Před měsícem +71

      What you don't understand is that Java is very easy to decompile but since bedrock is written in C++ without debug symbols it's impossible to decompile

    • @phyrobytee
      @phyrobytee Před měsícem

      @@realzguardian Decompiling c++ is like converting water to wine. Doesn’t work

    • @somename9880
      @somename9880 Před měsícem

      @@realzguardian C++ is not 'decompileable' with or without debugsymbols. You can generate some pseudocode, but you also can do that without the pdb's.
      The real catch is that your generated pseudocode can vary from build to build, the address (where in your server-executable) your specific functions is stored, will shift with each build and so on.
      If you have the PDB's you know the names of all available functions; their address; depending on the pdb sometimes even more. Without them, you have to reverse all of this by hand, and basically take a educated guess on what you are currently looking at - that's nothing new btw and basically a given when ever someone creates a cheat for some Game using c++.
      They could use pattern matching like every good cheat (and even could generate their base patterns with the old pdb's), but the update process will be a chore and absolutely not worth it, especially once we talk about new features.

  • @nelind3
    @nelind3 Před měsícem +373

    As a java modder I think this whole thing also shows what looks like an absolute disconnect between the java and bedrock dev teams. 5 years ago in 2019 mojang made the incredible decision to release official mappings for each version of the java edition game. Before this every java modder was using community made mappings but as of now forge has switched over to using mojmap as their official mappings and while fabric is still on yarn at compile time for license reasons mojmap has still been one of the greater things to happen to java modding in recent memory imo. Now 5 years later bedrock edition is essentially doing the exact opposite?? Taking away the official symbols table. The disconnect is crazy to me. All i can hope is that the monumental efforts behind mcp, yarn and the other java community mappings can give a bit of hope for bedrock devs that community made symbols tables could be viable option!

    • @mitchderise73
      @mitchderise73 Před měsícem +17

      This is what I was thinking too and I kinda wish this video acknowledged at all that there's not much indication that Java edition would be heading in this direction.

    • @Dingleberry454
      @Dingleberry454 Před 24 dny +7

      Just a Java player I’m sure once this “issue” is resolved to Microsoft’s liking as far as revenue goes…. Java will be on the chopping block in time for its “performance obsolescence”. In which the modding scene needs to give a big middle finger. Java has ran 300+ mods for half a decade easily enough. But if this did come to pass our only option would be bedrock and “paid addons” and they have all the free demos the modding community gave them to work with.. this can go sideways fast knowing Microsoft imo

    • @user-jd3gf5xw1x
      @user-jd3gf5xw1x Před 23 dny +1

      damn was it 5 years ago? I thought it was 2020 around march? or at least that's when I heard the buzz around it

    • @nelind3
      @nelind3 Před 23 dny

      @@user-jd3gf5xw1x yea it was in september 2019 (first version chronologically to have mojmap available was 19w36a. Although mojmap for 1.14.4 was retroactively released after 19w36a's release on recommendation from searge so the two could be compared). Time really flies fast it feels like mojmap is still a new thing to me. But yea i agree the buzz around it really got going in mid 2020 and especially in early 2021 after the license change and the decision from forge to ditch mcp in favour of mojmap.

  • @mr.rabbit5642
    @mr.rabbit5642 Před 20 dny +1

    It's generally super difficult to stop hackers and modders from modyfing a game, but if anyone was to succeed at it, it won't be Microsoft. It takes actual knowledge and understanding of what the fuck you're doing which they never had.
    Basically, as long as Ms owns Minecraft, ur safe.

  • @spray_cheese
    @spray_cheese Před 26 dny +1

    Like half of the games features were originally mods. They are killing the golden egg laying goose if they do this.

  • @rahavmahesh
    @rahavmahesh Před měsícem +561

    This is like a prosthetics company cutting peoples legs off

  • @MrHamlus
    @MrHamlus Před měsícem +424

    Lets not forget that minecraft have modders items in the game, like Pistons, Horses, Endermen and so many more

    • @sassanhu
      @sassanhu Před měsícem +63

      Agreed.. almost everything new comes from mods... the horses one even with help of the original mod creator.., so many thing grabbed from mods

    • @liamaincraft7614
      @liamaincraft7614 Před měsícem +6

      they're only removing for bedrock.

    • @Paradox_Incognito
      @Paradox_Incognito Před měsícem +25

      ​@liamaincraft7614 maybe so, but that doesn't mean they won't go further. Plus, those items modders made and were officially added are still in bedrock too

    • @TheOriginalManTrust
      @TheOriginalManTrust Před měsícem

      ​@@liamaincraft7614for now.

    • @liamaincraft7614
      @liamaincraft7614 Před měsícem +6

      @@Paradox_Incognito Java modders will easily find loopholes or even pirate the game. There's a reason pc users say pcs are better

  • @SulyKatze
    @SulyKatze Před 24 dny +1

    The only reason why minecraft is even able to release updates this slowly is because of mod support actively making players stay because of new content, if they remove modding, they will need to really increase their production speed and quality, we know its possible, just look at the April Fools update speed!

  • @kaanakofficial7753
    @kaanakofficial7753 Před měsícem +1

    The reason minecraft became so popular is because you could do anything and updates added a lot of new things, now with the lack of proper updates the only thing that's keeping minecraft alive is mods. If modding stops then the amount of people playing on older versions like 1.7.10 - 1.12.2 - 1.13 and even 1.16.5 will increase rapidly. There's a mod for everything in this community.

  • @toasty9670
    @toasty9670 Před měsícem +1158

    mojang trying to stop those people who claim they “coded a minecraft update in 7 days” or whatever with a mod like they did NOT let that slide

    • @hagangray8006
      @hagangray8006 Před měsícem +83

      Yeah, I’m sure Minecraft doesn’t like that kind of publicity lol. But also I’m pretty sure those videos are usually Java mods anyway…

    • @Tyrian3k
      @Tyrian3k Před měsícem +103

      Well, maybe an exaggerated example, but Mojang's development of Minecraft is horribly slow for what they're actually making with close to 200 developers on board.

    • @iwiffitthitotonacc4673
      @iwiffitthitotonacc4673 Před měsícem +90

      ​@@Tyrian3k It takes time to figure how to make new features slightly less useful (copper bulbs)

    • @Jakkilip
      @Jakkilip Před měsícem +2

      ​@@hagangray8006 they don't care about those vids

    • @pnksounds
      @pnksounds Před měsícem +24

      @@Tyrian3k spaghetti code + years of adding sauce ontop

  • @thechosenjuan7920
    @thechosenjuan7920 Před měsícem +564

    As a java player I had no idea bedrock edition had mods until right now.

    • @Afrognamedbilly
      @Afrognamedbilly Před měsícem +8

      How?

    • @natebit8130
      @natebit8130 Před měsícem +65

      ​@@Afrognamedbilly I guess it's because we don't play bedrock.

    • @Sino_Is_Cool
      @Sino_Is_Cool Před měsícem +51

      We've been telling you guys for years but i guess no one cared enough to listen cus there worshiping java (no offense to y'all)

    • @Weirdtvgirl
      @Weirdtvgirl Před měsícem +12

      ​@@Sino_Is_Cool fr

    • @lekevire
      @lekevire Před měsícem +24

      @@natebit8130 That's like saying you never went to Germany so you didn't know they speak German

  • @DraconSmol
    @DraconSmol Před 27 dny +2

    now this video is making me rethink if I even wanna pursue minecraft content anymore for my own channel

  • @danieljacksonofficial5107

    This is freakishly bad, I do not doubt that with some of these changes in their monetization strategy we'll eventually see the loss of support for Java. I've always seen Bedrock as Microsoft's version of the game, and to me, they consider it their main version. I feel like they wont be able to make changes like this to Java (due to backlash), so instead in order to incentivize people to play Bedrock and spend more money they will discontinue updating Java. I remember recently a lot of us got Bedrock Edition for FREE by Microsoft because we owned Java (and Bedrock to Java) I don't remember when this happened but now that I have both versions on my account I believe that its a subtle way to move me over to Bedrock before they remove it altogether.

  • @lightning_11
    @lightning_11 Před měsícem +263

    It's a good thing the Fabric developers just strait up invented their own mappings and don't even use the Mjoang ones anyone!

  • @Adjum84
    @Adjum84 Před měsícem +174

    Worst part is, I play on Nintendo switch and certain add-ons just crash your game so essentially you’re paying money for someone you can’t use

    • @starryskies113
      @starryskies113 Před měsícem +2

      Ya

    • @emperorvisas9309
      @emperorvisas9309 Před měsícem

      Ya alot of mods mod. Android ps4 ps5 xbox. There really scummy

    • @mememananimations2104
      @mememananimations2104 Před měsícem +4

      Happens on android too. Paid for the Dungeons and Dragons map and it says "Error, there was a problem loading pack one of your packs"

    • @JoshuaThompson-ut4fb
      @JoshuaThompson-ut4fb Před měsícem

      ​​@@mememananimations2104 it happened to me, but it was the natural resource pack instead

    • @mememananimations2104
      @mememananimations2104 Před měsícem

      @@JoshuaThompson-ut4fb poor us bedrock users :(

  • @decract
    @decract Před měsícem +1

    The addon in the marketplace sucks so bad compared to outer addon. This is because its extremely limited, they can't actually add block at all, just entity and item, and also some other limitation.
    Also it cost real money which obviously everyone hate.

  • @flamingwheel9926
    @flamingwheel9926 Před 28 dny +6

    1.20 version will probably see a lot of mods increase like 1.7.10 saw back then, since it will be the last version moldable, removing the need for molders to update and bug fix and adapt their entire lods every single year and update

    • @Jason-vp5fb
      @Jason-vp5fb Před 27 dny

      Does that mean that eventually mods won’t be installable even for older versions?

    • @Titanskull
      @Titanskull Před 18 dny

      ​@Jason-vp5fb Unfortunately I think that is the route we are headed for

  • @DimitrisRem
    @DimitrisRem Před měsícem +682

    The exact minute mojang removes modding on java, the game will be no more.

    • @itap8880
      @itap8880 Před měsícem +16

      As a matter of fact, quite literally.

    • @Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer
      @Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer Před měsícem +18

      Good luck with that, we were the ones who added it in the first place. They can't remove what they haven't actually added, even if they try we'll add it right back in

    • @SPoBodos
      @SPoBodos Před měsícem +1

      Nah

    • @YouTubeUserNineEleven
      @YouTubeUserNineEleven Před měsícem +2

      If you people stop playing because you can't mod, you were never Minecraft fans to begin with. It's the truth.

    • @Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer
      @Casual-Yohoho-Enjoyer Před měsícem +37

      @@CZcamsUserNineEleven Stop gatekeeping, grow up

  • @Silver_skill
    @Silver_skill Před měsícem +584

    Few thank God, the title scared me, imagine Minecraft Java without mods that is just a nightmare.

    • @AshnSilvercorp
      @AshnSilvercorp Před měsícem +38

      I could see them blacklisting certain mods...

    • @origamifolder2255
      @origamifolder2255 Před měsícem +75

      ​@@AshnSilvercorp *cough* *cough* Jenny *cough*

    • @AdvancedGamer-
      @AdvancedGamer- Před měsícem +22

      @@AshnSilvercorpthat’s fair though it’s a 10+ game

    • @AdvancedGamer-
      @AdvancedGamer- Před měsícem +5

      @@origamifolder2255💀

    • @gabrielchastain6091
      @gabrielchastain6091 Před měsícem +84

      @@AdvancedGamer- no its not fair because kids arnt the only ones that play this game and for alot of mods like violence and gun mods even children enjoy those, and as for the jenny mod that is for the adults so doing anything to any mod is a threat to other mods because once they get away with one regardless of content they will start pushing their luck to remove other mods they dont like

  • @EnderRadio
    @EnderRadio Před měsícem +2

    Mods like sodium are the only reason I can play the game

  • @cubondemais
    @cubondemais Před 27 dny

    Removing debug symbols don't solve exploits, they only protect by making information harder to get, but it's not impossible. What this means is that hackers will either find another way around, like the proxy method mentioned in the video, or they will reverse engineer the game game code. It's not impossible, the functionality is already there, they just have to understand in a higher level what the functionality encoded in the executable actually does. Once reversed they can inject hacks in any way they want to and the subsequent versions will be easier to reverse with many chunks of code staying unchanged. Honestly we could totally do the exact same thing for modding, but modders usually don't have enough incentive to do that because they program for free in their spare time.

  • @iinathaniii2
    @iinathaniii2 Před měsícem +659

    If it really becomes impossible/hard to mod newer Minecraft then we can really just stay on old versions, we don't need all the new shit they add in anyways

    • @Gatrehs
      @Gatrehs Před měsícem +93

      And it can be easily backported, We don't even need entire update backports, just specific features so people can all pick and choose what parts of the updates they want.

    • @RENO_K
      @RENO_K Před měsícem +94

      And if they force updates
      I assure you people in the community would just make launchers for it 😂
      We all can just be harrharrrharr hardidi har harharr
      🏴‍☠️🦜☠️

    • @ZanfishYT
      @ZanfishYT Před měsícem +16

      The mod I’m working on is likely staying in 1.16.5 and I won’t be porting it if they make this change

    • @severinghams
      @severinghams Před měsícem +9

      make a mod loader that has support for mixins, for Beta 1.7.3. Boom.
      Hardest thing about installing mods to older versions of Minecraft is the fact that some mods both modify the same files. So, write a universal API for it all. WorldRenderer API, GUI renderer API, Inventory/Container API, Audio API, Block API, Item API, Block & Item tag API, World Interaction API, Entity API, etc.
      A general point on making mods though, if you're gonna use lots of vanilla materials in recipes, PLEASE put those recipes in a dedicated crafting block, or a crafting block that cannot have duplicate/conflicting recipes by nature; an unambiguous output crafting block, such as the stonecutter.

    • @CreeperTheLord
      @CreeperTheLord Před měsícem +14

      like an animal that doesnt do anything interesting, a new piece of wood, a new biome, and for bedrock players, 15 sponsored DLCs with animation studios

  • @United-States-Of-Americqa
    @United-States-Of-Americqa Před měsícem +281

    The moment modding is gone, is the moment I quit Minecraft, and I’m sure many others agree.

    • @JuanPiece.
      @JuanPiece. Před měsícem

      I don't. It's probably because your an ameritard

    • @justsomecommentchannel8602
      @justsomecommentchannel8602 Před měsícem +6

      modding will never be gone considering that old version exist

    • @JuanPiece.
      @JuanPiece. Před měsícem +1

      Why? Because you're an Ameritard?

    • @semajniomet981
      @semajniomet981 Před měsícem +6

      @@justsomecommentchannel8602 Bedrock doesn't allow going back a version like Java does, so modding will soon be dead on Bedrock, sadly.

    • @justsomecommentchannel8602
      @justsomecommentchannel8602 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@semajniomet981 i was talking about minecraft in general, not just bedrock

  • @mohammedkebab
    @mohammedkebab Před měsícem +2

    I thought bedrock modding was impossible. It makes me sad to find out that it was possible in this way.

    • @trolgeeeeee
      @trolgeeeeee Před 9 dny

      bedrock mods are add-ons but sadly any chance of bedrock getting any support for modding is always shut down for a few pennies when the game makes enough money to last more than a entire life span

    • @mohammedkebab
      @mohammedkebab Před 8 dny +1

      @@trolgeeeeee you did not watch the video before commenting this did you?

    • @trolgeeeeee
      @trolgeeeeee Před 8 dny

      ​@@mohammedkebabI watched the video several times before commenting

    • @mohammedkebab
      @mohammedkebab Před 8 dny

      @@trolgeeeeee you clearly did not. He just explained how there IS a difference between addons and bedrock mods.

  • @C4-CCA
    @C4-CCA Před 25 dny +1

    If they remove mods they better do some good fucking updates or people will just stay in old versions with mods

  • @lightning_11
    @lightning_11 Před měsícem +257

    At this point, I've become so dependant on performance mods like Sodium, Lithium Starlight, Bobby, Invidium, Ready Fast, Modern Fix, Sodium Extra, Resse's Sodium Options, Krypton, EntityCulling, Memory Leak Fix, Enahnced Block Entities... In order for me to be able to play vanilla, Mojang would have to compete with all that, and I simply don't see it happenning.

    • @darthplagueisthewise8528
      @darthplagueisthewise8528 Před měsícem +35

      Achievement get - how did we get here?
      Have every potato pc mod enabled at once

    • @Blaster1360
      @Blaster1360 Před měsícem +32

      @@darthplagueisthewise8528 Java Edition is known for being notoriously unoptimized. I can run GTA V on high graphics with practically no lag yet if I play vanilla unmodded Minecraft, my framerate tanks to 15-20 FPS.

    • @garvgupta3567
      @garvgupta3567 Před měsícem +6

      @@Blaster1360 Agreed, I can run way bigger games (in graphics and loading things) but Vanilla Java is too laggy

    • @EldiniTheGenie
      @EldiniTheGenie Před měsícem +13

      @@Blaster1360 thats the consequence of running a game on a coding language made to be used in a fucking FedEx office space

    • @Bloxxify1
      @Bloxxify1 Před měsícem

      @@EldiniTheGenieis the FedEx part actually real? I need to hear about that lmfao

  • @silis4645
    @silis4645 Před měsícem +863

    Take away ppl ability to mod while simultaneously charging those same ppl for your own? Genius mojang surely no one will catch on....

    • @silis4645
      @silis4645 Před měsícem +33

      Like when it comes to this situation I get if mojang really had issue with security and that's why they made this change but hear me out.
      YES hacks are a problem
      And making this change helps that issue but what r you trading? What effects ppl more negatively mojang? The rare hacker in a server that might make your one server hard or impossible to play? Or EVRRYONE every player, every mod maker getting screwed over this change? Hackers negatively effected a much smaller portion of ppl then taking away modding rights from everyone on bedrock and forcing them to pay out for the same experience they could have gotten for free? The trade off is not worth it no matter how you look at it or try to frame it. This is y I truly believe this was not a move done to stop hackers but to force ppl to open their wallets and this is their cope out justification.

    • @version1.27
      @version1.27 Před měsícem

      Revolt again boys

    • @version1.27
      @version1.27 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@silis4645i aint reading all that

    • @Azillia
      @Azillia Před měsícem +30

      ​@@version1.27someone didnt read in ELA

    • @silis4645
      @silis4645 Před měsícem +18

      @version1.27 ok? Like what am I suppose to do with that information 🤔

  • @KewIsIncrediblyTired
    @KewIsIncrediblyTired Před měsícem +2

    if something like that happens on the Java edition, just don't play on the new versions...
    that should work, right?

  • @orange_turtle3412
    @orange_turtle3412 Před 20 dny +1

    Minecraft is slowly but surely turning from the limitless tool of creative expression that took the world by storm into just another soulless microsoft videogame

  • @WispOfSoul
    @WispOfSoul Před měsícem +125

    I never thought I'd see Mojang mess up this badly again, after the server terms issue...

    • @dalgeubam
      @dalgeubam Před měsícem

      Hey, did you know that in terms of male human and female Pokémon breeding, Vaporeon is the most compatible Pokémon for humans? Not only are they in the field egg group, which is mostly comprised of mammals, Vaporeon are an average of 3"03' tall and 63.9 pounds. this means they're large enough to be able to handle human dicks, and with their impressive Base stats for HP and access to Acid Armor, you can be rough with one. Due to their mostly water based biology, there's no doubt in my mind that an aroused Vaporeon would be incredibly wet, so wet that you could easily have sex with one for hours without getting sore. They can also learn the moves Attract, Baby-Doll eyes, Captivate, Charm and Tail Whip along with not having fur to hide nipples, so it'd be incredibly easy for one to get you in the mood. With their abilities Water Absorb and Hydration, they can easily recover from fatigue with enough water. No other Pokémon comes close with this level of compatibility. Also, fun fact, if you pull out enough, you can make your Vaporeon turn white. Vaporeon is literally built for human dick. Ungodly defense stat + high HP pool + Acid Armor means it can take cock all day, all shapes and sizes and still come for more.

    • @tabularasa0606
      @tabularasa0606 Před měsícem +2

      It's a part of Microsoft. It's what Microsoft does.

    • @WispOfSoul
      @WispOfSoul Před měsícem +2

      @@tabularasa0606 you're right, but I feel like Mojang could of fought a bit harder to keep it, but then again, I don't know how hard they fought in the first place

  • @km7dev
    @km7dev Před měsícem +459

    To be fair, bedrock modders were lucky to even have a PDB - Look at Geode (Geometry Dash modding) - They had to reverse engineer the game to get modloading to work well

    • @gyroninjamodder
      @gyroninjamodder Před měsícem +64

      Mojang didn't release obfuscation mappings for over a decade. The golden age of minecraft mods was before Mojang released them.

    • @arie1906
      @arie1906 Před měsícem +42

      Bedrock modders did the same reverse engineer, PDB is more like a cheat sheet that save time and cost. Ain't spending 2 whole years to decompile the whole game for one version...

    • @Kwauhn.
      @Kwauhn. Před měsícem +25

      Isn't reverse engineering only effective when the updates start to stagnate though? Idk much about GD, but I'm assuming it's not constantly being updated. MC updates have no end in sight, so I don't see that being a viable rout for BE going forward...

    • @SanekGamer007
      @SanekGamer007 Před měsícem +22

      ​@@Kwauhn. it does now.
      there was an update recently which killed modding for a few weeks

    • @user-on2dt7dv8n
      @user-on2dt7dv8n Před měsícem +8

      I can't escape from gd...

  • @decract
    @decract Před měsícem +2

    Why did they make minecraft able to support mods just to remove it?

  • @Mikeygaming0041
    @Mikeygaming0041 Před 27 dny +1

    I saw this day coming when they announced add ons on the marketplace :(

  • @sorenskousen7468
    @sorenskousen7468 Před měsícem +1343

    I mean, at least this means modders will finally be able to settle on a version
    Edit: This doesn't really apply to bedrock edition

    • @gabrielv.4358
      @gabrielv.4358 Před měsícem +61

      1.16 Forever!!!!

    • @shinycat1232
      @shinycat1232 Před měsícem +16

      ​@@gabrielv.4358facts until tensura reincarnated

    • @Numerosity
      @Numerosity Před měsícem +127

      That doesn't really apply here. It's much more difficult to change Minecraft Bedrock versions, as the game auto updates.

    • @sorenskousen7468
      @sorenskousen7468 Před měsícem +6

      @@Numerosity I made this comment under a minute after this video came out

    • @SolarAutumn
      @SolarAutumn Před měsícem +2

      I think they meant version as in update​@@Numerosity

  • @taureon_
    @taureon_ Před měsícem +166

    i like how microsoft just tries to make modding harder instead of just patching the stupid netcode and interpolation that makes these insane flyhacks even possible

    • @CXCubeHD
      @CXCubeHD Před měsícem +17

      You cannot expect anything from Mojang / Microsoft. They didn't even completely patch the performance bottlenecks they created in 1.16

  • @user-38rufhoerh3id
    @user-38rufhoerh3id Před měsícem

    If you know some things about Java, you know that it's ridiculously easy to decompile. This is why some devs say "just make it open source if it's made in Java", it's just that ridiculously easy to decompile. The problem: mappings. Sure, Mojang provides official mappings for Minecraft Java edition, which allows other mappings such as Yarn to easily rename their functions to the newer version of Minecraft. But, what happens if we remove the mappings? Well, we can still decompile the game, but mapping all the functions back into understandable formats will take more longer than expected. So, due to Java's nature as a programming language, we shouldn't really worry much about losing modding capabilities on Java. If they remove mappings, mods for newer versions could take longer, but that's better than losing the ability to mod the game entirely. Minecraft Bedrock is in C++, which is known to not decompile like Java. This is because Java compiles to bytecode, which retain original class names, methods/functions, fields/variables and of course, the code. The only reason why you'd need mappings for Java is because the method names are obfuscated on purpose, so you'd need mappings to easily identify the purpose of said method. C++, however, decompiles directly to machine code, which is essentially binary. This makes it *really* hard to decompile, and you'd most likely get globs of Assembly when you try to recompile it back. This is where the PDB file comes in. It acts as the map between the original source code and the machine code, but by removing the PDB file, you essentially remove the single bridge that allowed Bedrock modders to mod the game. So for all my Java players out there, there is no need to worry, *yet* , and for the Bedrock players out there, I wish you all luck for a revert.