The Boeing 727 - Why Was It Built?
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- čas přidán 13. 04. 2020
- When the idea of building a rear-mounted, three-jet-engine aircraft first came about, Boeing was still struggling to build the 707. Adding to the challenge was that some airlines wanted four-engine jets while others wanted a twin. Here is how the 727 came about and why Boeing decided to build it.
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It was built it honor of Cookiezi's Blue Zenith play
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So it's 2016 and there's this cookiezi guy who's like number 1 in the game, and then he plays blue zenith ,one of the hardest maps, with the hard rock mod (which makes it even harder). He almost gets to the end, but gets a miss on the final hard part. This play gives him 727 pp (performance points). Then later in 2017, he plays the same map, this time adding the hidden mod as well. But he goes on to miss on the SAME part, and gets 727 pp again! Then in 2020, when the cookiezi guy stopped playing, there was a nother guy called aireu, who was playing one of the most played and most well known farm map of the time. He did that with the double time mod (which makes the song 1.5 times faster), which not a lot of people can do, but even like this he holds the FC (full combo) to the end of the map where he unfortunately misses the end jumps and guess what, just like cookiezi before him, he got 727 pp (performance points). Isn't that funny?
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I flew 727's for three different airlines over 14 years. Great airplane.
The fuselage looks like a 737
DB Cooper likes the plane also 😎
They also make a lot of noise. I saw a cargo 727 taking off from miami Airport not 2 days ago
Wow man what was it like to fly from a pilots perspective ? What did you hate and what did you love ?
Absolute legend
727 when you see it 🤯🤯🤯🤯
WHEN YOU SEE IT
It was built to see it.
My father was a mechanic for Northeast Airlines, the launch customer for the 727-200. It was his favorite aircraft.
Without a doubt one of the best airplanes ever built. I had the pleasure of flying on the 727-200 several times in the 90s. A true workhorse.
Sam M Same here. I flew on Continental and enjoyed them.
Totally agree, my favorite airplane.
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They were Rocket Ships.
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Quite simply the plane I trusted most as a passenger. If I had my choice, it was always a 727 for me. Used to fly into some squirrely places, and never once worried on a 727 with some of the great old ex Military throttle jocks who weren't afraid to pin the throttles. You have no idea what you are missing if you never got to fly back then.
I remember flying on B-727's owned by Eastern Airlines, where it was called the "Whisper Jet". Loved the B-727's then, still love it now.
The Boeing 727 was the workhorse of Pacific Southwest Airline's (PSA) fleet. As kids, my sister and I must have flown on these planes at least a hundred times between Northern and Southern California. Our parents were divorced and these planes shuttled us back and forth. Back in those days (1970's) parents could go onto the plane, with their kids, and we could tour the cockpit. Good times...
yeah the cockpit of the 727 is pretty cool.
Yep, one of my favourite "three-holers". I had many a flight aboard the 727 from the 70s up until '01', she is definitely missed.
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I LOVE the 727. Probably because it was my first airplane when I hired on, and in my career I flew it from all 3 seats. Some pilots had a problem with it, but to me it fit like a glove. I feel like it's the one airplane I flew I could most easily go back to if given the chance.
Amen brorher.
10 years f/e here,also first type ,flew the prototype - 200 too
@@IFLYTOO Knew a "T-Dub" 17 year engineer who went through (? ) furloughs, then a few years before he retired, up-graded to captain. He left early before Amurrican came along to but TWA. This was back when captains had to have grey or no hair to up grade. Now you can have purple spiked hair and 8 months in service to up-grade. The 72'-200s with -17s and nose brakes were my favorites. NWA used to run -7s and -9s out of short field ops. Woof.
So cool you were a 727 pilot ! What can you say about the aircraft ?! What were some of the problems pilots had ?
@@wozja One problem for many pilots lay in the fact the 727 came along early in the jet age. Although the 707 and DC-8 were there first, for many the 727 was their first jet. For those who had been flying the old piston propellor "Thumpers" all their lives, this beast that did everything twice as fast as anything they has ever encountered was a problem. It was "slick", and could get away from you if you're not right on top of it. Even compared to the early 707 and the 8, which were kind of lumbering by comparison, it would acceralate and then climb like a "Homesick Angel". However the one trait the 727 had that set it apart from even other jets was it's landing characteristic. With any other airplane, on landing, you get near the ground, throttle back to idle, raise the nose, and settle to the ground. Not with this beast! Do that with a 727 and the bottom drops out and it will hit the ground like a dump truck dropped off a 2 story building, You had to "fly it onto the ground. " Keep the power on until you have arrested the decent with a little back pressure on the yolk just a foot or 2 from tochdown, THEN come off on the power and roll it forward and down. Done right, the wheels will touch down gently. Do it wrong and you get dirty looks and caustic comments from flight attendants and passengers.
Imagine searching Boeing 727 vidoes to watch on YT only to find a bunch of ppl saying "WYSI"
anyways, *WYSI*
when you see it
...loved flying on 727s. Enjoyed sitting just behind the wing to watch those massive triple slotted flaps extend during final approach, expanding the effective wing area by about another third. With all the engines in the rear it was relatively quiet inside compared to the 707, 720, DC-8 and Convair 880/990 (hence Eastern's trademark branding of "Whisperjet"), however outside, it was a completely different story.
Flown on -100s and -200s as well as the 100 QC (convertible passenger/cargo variant) the latter on Northwest.
I worked on many 727's. The last one for UPS with the main cargo door not wanting to pull in & have the overcenter cam lock work in proper sequence.
Most of the rest were APU overhauls, onwing(on fuselage) inspections & hydraulic troubleshooting & repair. Fun stuff.
when I think about 727
DB Cooper reminds me!
@Ibraheem Kappaya 24 Nov 1971
@Ibraheem Kappaya sorry my English sucks.Im just a Taiwanese 😅😅
D B Cooper purportedly hijacked a Northwest Airlines 727 out of Portland, Oregon on its last leg of a flight fr Washington, DC to Seattle. Demanded $200,000 and parachutes. Said he had a bomb. Plane landed in Seattle, money and parachutes delivered, told crew to fly at low altitude after taking off, bailed out the back of the plane, never seen again.
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After this Boeing Incorporated the anti hijack device externally, ...a swiveling bracket that with the airflow,prevented the stairs from lowering... simple and effective.
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That was a -100 right?
Beer cans? My company chopped up the prototype -200 we had in our fleet, although Boeing wanted it for their museum....(flight engineer too btw)
I love these videos, they are always concise and to the point. Keep it up!
Worked on quite a few. Engine inspections & hydraulic troubleshooting for UPS.
Overhauled APU's for many different airlines. GTCP85-98(C)(CK)(HF).
Fun stuff!
I still have the pleasure of working on 727's as she still fly's cargo for many companies all over the world,,,,,simply a thing of beauty!
Cool are you working on one currently and for what carrier ?? I figured most would probably be in south America for cargo. A few in the states and Canada for private or VIP
@@wozja Kalitta Charters II, for the worlds former "Fastest Man"
Thankfully got to fly on a couple of these in the very late 90’s when they were about to be phased out with Delta. Fantastic plane for comfort, as I remember.
Getting TWA's fully loaded 727-100 out of Salt Lake on a hot summer day was always a challenge. The mountains catch up with you rather quickly! It made us earn our ATC pay!!
1970s air travel between England and Spain, the highlight of my childhood using those rear steps! Sitting in the last row of seats I still have the sound of those three “surround sound heavy metal” engines ringing in my ears!
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I think u mean the WYSI 727
when i worked at First Air (Canada) we had several 727-100 combis...huge cargo door on the side, passengers would board using the drop down steps under the tail (very cool feature)...but it's the sound i remember most...the APU exhaust over the wing was deafening even with ear protection it would rattle your brain...and man they were loud taking off...a real crackle from the engines...the 727 was cool bird and one of my favorites...thanks for the video
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I love the 727!
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@@Keintara04 I see it 😔
The 727 was arguably the most elegant Boeing aircraft. I fondly recall my childhood in South Africa watching the Kulula and Nationwide 727s. I thought I missed the opportunity to catch a flight on this one but was extremely blessed to enjoy two flights on this beauty with Iran Aseman airlines a few years ago.
One minor detail I'd like to add/ correct: at 0:50 you zoom into the exhaust of the number 2 engine while talking about the APU. The 727 APU is actually mounted between the main gears (very unusual nowadays) and the exhaust is on the top of the right wing (often leaving black soot marks on the wing). As one of the first aircraft with an APU there was not a standardized location for the APU at that time. The location of the APU also meant that it could only be operated when the gears were down since the APU inlet is in the wheel well.
Thanks for the video!
I flew as a passenger on the 727 with Ansett Australia many times. I thoroughly enjoyed it. So smooth & quiet in flight. Then as a Pilot I hoped I could crew one, however the closest I got was Fokker F28-1000/4000, still a dinosaur & a lovely one. Not many would know what a F28 is these days.
No mention of the Trident?
Concise and informative! Well done!
The BBJ at the end with the pretty eyeliner is so beautiful. Perfect livery
Tks for your video,,i get more nformation about boeing 727
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Beautiful airliner -- still my all-time favorite. Miss seeing the 727, both in the air and at the airports.
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Great content as always! The 727 did for the jet short-haul market similar to what her more famous sister the 707 did for long haul. Hats off to an old workhorse! FUN FACT: 727,737 and 757's fuselage cross-section was based on the 707, greatly simplifying design and manufacture.
I still remember going to the airport for my very first flight at only 5yrs/old. The Boeing name and the 707 were already iconic, and I was crushed to learn that we would be flying on a 727😢
cookiezi's 727 pp play
One of my all time favorite aircraft!
One of my fondest memories was a flight from the UK to New Zealand in the mid 90s aboard the RNZAF 727. From England to Shannon Ireland, on to St John's in Canada onto Washington DC. We were supposed to stop in Denver, Colorado however she was snowed in. We went on to our next destination San Fransisco, then on to Honolulu. The final stop before getting back to New Zealand was America Samoa. Could you imagine doing this trip as a 10 year old aerosexual? I had/have always wanted to be a pilot. Though my colour blindness had/has put a dent in that one.
Sounds like a great trip, it was sad seeing our RNZAF 727 airframes sitting derelict in Blenheim next to our entire strike force fleet for many years. Anyway depending on how old you are and if flying is still on your wish list, they are now allowing colour blind pilots to hold medicals for class one operation under night and IFR ops. Buuut with covid 19 its probably not a great industry to get into right now, I'm lucky to still have a job!
Similar issue as the 737 Max, in which the pilots were not trained regarding MCAS--which was intentional, in order to save money for the airlines--according to most of the information published.
In WW2, the Martin Company built the B26 bomber which was known as the "widowmaker"--the twin engine bomber was crashing upon landing quite often. Pilots had to be quickly trained to land "hot" to avoid stalls. A lot of the re-training took place at MacDill Field in Tampa, Florida.
Martin quickly made adjustments to the wing size & the B26 became a workhorse for the European theater.
My first flight as a kid was on a Continental Airlines 727-200 in 2003; right before Continental retired them. God, I miss those birds!
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Love the 727
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I remember flying 727s in the 70s and 80s. I remember going out the back air stairs which was so cool. Great plane I miss it.
Hi great video i slepted at 4 am hearinh all the podcasts
Beautiful aircraft.
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My favorite looking Boeing.
hello I work at ATL for eastern airline , some time the flaps did not retracted after landings, it was a problem for fast turn around .Great machine my second favorite after the 757. saludos thanks for the memories .saludos to former Easter Airlines and Marietta inflight services.workers , you changed the world
I rode on several 727s between DCA and Atlanta, then to Birmingham. A few of those hops were on DC9s.
My last 727 ride was from DCA to New York LaGuardia. That was 1999.
Greetings from Australia!
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Alexander Fraser same here!
Greetings from southeast asia
Transmile Air was operated this 727 for cargo ops. Greeting from Malaysia. 🇲🇾
Selamat malam
Selamat pagi
Sup malaysians im filipino
Astro I’m indo
Selamat petang 🇲🇾
Selamat sore mas bro 🇲🇨
Magandang gabi 🇵🇭
man's just pumping out vids. Great content tho!
What a beautiful girl that was also fast. And had some party tricks that were ahead of its time like it’s own retractable rear stairs and The APU ,so it could operate without ground support. And love the sound of those three jt8s
My favorite airliner!
That is interesting
"Whisper jet" LIKE HELL! Those things were pretty loud, not much worse than most jets of the time, but still. One of the most successful planes of its era, the right design for the times of early jets, proved itself for many airlines around the world.
Always liked the 727 and the laid back, low speed landings.
was pretty tragic when he missed tho
I've been seeing this plane every other day in the airport cause thats where my parents work when I was a kid and I always spend few observing its fine lines trying to understand the functions of its control surfaces and slots and I also notice, its bigger, longer flaps and ailerons or flaperons
As i type this in Kenya a certain airline company, prolly deals with cargo still flies a 727 F. Wow that thing is super loud. That take off in NBO is so lovely
It was my dream to pilot, SPECIFICALLY, a Untied 727-200 when I was a kid.
Had a wonderful flight on a United 727 from Washington Dulles to Orlando MCO airport. Funny thing was that I thought I was on a 737 until I looked out at the wing and saw no engines!
Same cabin
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Interesting. I didn't know Boeing had already bent to sales pressures by not training its clients well enough on the 727 back then. I guess it started happening sooner than we thought.
On a more positive note, I remember flying in them, including Eastern's famous Whisperjet which were anything but whisper quiet. They were loud but good planes.
I also heard the 727 design was influenced by the previous introduction of the Caravelle and its two-rear engines.
G'day Simple, I had a good mate who flew C-47s with the RAAF during WW2. He later flew for one of our domestic carriers; firstly on the few remaining DC-3s then on Viscounts and Electras before converting to the 727. He retired his flying career on 727s. He told me he would always love his old Dakotas, but stressed he thought the 727 was the best commercial aircraft he'd flown. He told me he could have 'put it down' just about anywhere and get it into fields that had never seen a large multi-engined aircraft before. I always enjoyed flying on the 727 but that was back when airlines didn't pack in passengers like sardines. It might have been noisy to outsiders but if you were seated anywhere forward of the wings it was an amazingly quiet flight. Many were sorry to see it go. As for the 737 MAX, although it may come back to us as the safest, most over engineered and most examined airframe in the world, I'll still give it a bit of time in the air before I'll book seats. Thanks for your video. Cheers, BH
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IFL freight still has one of these operational that was delivered to eastern air in December of 69’
Uh, why are we focusing on the number two engine exhaust while listening to a description of the APU, which is located in the right side of the main wheel well? The 727 was indeed designed for shorter runways, but ironically enough the -200 version was immediately labelled as a ground-hugger because of its long takeoff roll when fully loaded. Improved engines eventually lessened the sense of adventure encountered when pushing the throttles forward for takeoff. I first flew on the 727 in 1965 on a local flight from and to Tulsa, a twenty-dollar promotional flight American provided to familiarize people with the comfort of flying on its latest airliner. Working for various airlines, I flew on the 727 as a passenger many times in the 70s and 80s. No airplane before or since has given me such a sense of being at home in the air and safely on the way to my destination as soon as it left the ground. Can't explain it, but a lot of other people seem to feel the same way.
It was a copy of the Dehavilland Comet. Sadly the UK government at the time allowed a lot of technology to cross the pond in a shared technology agreement. We are still waiting for the share.
You mentioned DB Cooper?
My country had a war plan where paratroopers would deploy from, using the aft airstairs, plus commando would use it for rapid deployment
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Interesting story. I didn't even know this plane existed until I heard one fly over my house. Loud asf
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Back in the day the best engine was the Pratt & Whitney JT 8 D. Three engines gave it more thrust so it needed less runway than a twin engine design. The greater fuel efficiency of modern high bypass ratio engines which are also considerably quieter rendered the design obsolete.
Supposedly, Eastern wanted a twin-jet. United wanted 4 engines. American believed that a 4-engine aircraft flying on shorter routes, with fewer seats, made little economic sense. AA said that it would accept a design with 3 engines. Eastern and United said each could accept a 3-engine aircraft. Thus, the engineers got to work.
Eastern always wanted 3 from the beginning for their Caribbean routes. That's why they got the first ones. United wanted 4 for high dense Denver, American liked 3 for safety and as you mentioned economy.
When I did a lot of travelling in the early eighties, I’d fly on the 727 and DC9. I far preferred the 727.
It was built to look and sound awesome.
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how does that center engine do anything? there is no opening behind it
This is the only airplane ive ever flown on. I'll never forget the insane acceleration taking off from Sea-Tac in 1976.
My first ride in an aircraft was a 737. Entered and exited through the tail. Smooth ride, but loud.
As a mechanic on the B737 and B707 and B727. The B727 was old B707 technology. Had to work some systems. I liked the B737. Good simple machine.
As a mechanic and flight engineer on Boeings , I don't agree.
What do you disagree with? The electrical and avionics on the 707 and 727 are the same. Both flyt engineers system panels were modeled the same. Just compare that to the 737. (No flyt engineers station)
@@oldmech619 "was old 707 technology"...
Well, I think 727 was some steps higher, hydraulically powered controls versus just the rudder on the 707. Plus avionics were more modern etc.
Worked on all the then series on ground, flew 727 ,707 ,747 in that order....(a 10 year interval on A300B4 but it doesn't count here)
TO THIS FLIGHT ARCHIVE BLOGGER, THIS BOEING 727 SERIES [CLASSSIC] IS AN ALLTIMER, AND Y'ALL, AIRCRAFT VIEWERS, CONGRATS!! ✈️
Funny the Hawker Siddeley Trident was never mentioned in this video...
I really liked flying in this jet. The airport I flew out of had a long runway but was cramped on its sides and both ends. So the pilots tended to go screaming down that long runway and then pulling back hard on the stick. Swear the tail was dragging for a short time.
Wasn't the APU fitted in the wing/fuselage area instead of the tail.
I might be wrong of course! 🤔
You are 100% correct. I had a small chuckle starting at 0:53 where the narrator starts talking about the APU, but the #2 engine is being shown, but you can see the actual APU exhaust on top of the wing root at the 1:06 mark.
@@get2dachoppa249 I thought so. Thanks. 👍
Yes. It’s in the forward part of the main gear well and it extends through the keel beam with the exhaust on the upper right wing root.
That and the on-board airstairs (one at the back and one underneath the left forward door oknsome models) made it self sufficient.
It was strictly for ground use only. There was no need to use it in the air with three engine driven generators which could all be tied together to power any electrical bus.
When the 737 came along they wanted to get rid of the flight engineer. This meant being unable to synchronize and tie generators so they used a split bus system. One generator powered one bus and the other powered a separate bus. But if an engine or generator failed that bus would be unable to receive power. So they made the 737s APU able to be started in flight and each bus can flip flop between the engine driven generators and the APU. The APU is on for takeoff and switched on before landing so power is available if needed.
@@calvinnickel9995 Thanks for the reply. 👍
@@calvinnickel9995 On the 737 the APU is turned off prior to taxi.
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Kalitta charters still flys a few of them there is one flying now over the USA on Flightradar24
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I flew on quite a few of these 727's, Air France, Continental etc and i used to cherish a model i had of a TWA one, maybe it still exist's somewhere, i liked the shape of the design and got quite fond of an ariana afghan airlines one that use to fly into gatwick every sunday morning, it was the airlines only one then 1969 Reg ya-far wich was delivered to the airline newly built in 1968, unfortunately it crashed at gatwick on jan 5 1969 then they leased one 3 weeks later from world airlines which probably does not exist now to continue the gatwick- frankfurt, kabul service actually i got quite fond of that plane as well!
damm it was interesting
It was the plane I took my first commercial flight on, way back in 1973.
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