Elon Musk "We don't need Nuclear Fusion, renewables FTW"
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- Elon Musk talks about SpaceX, Twitter, Presidential Candidates, AI, China, getting to mars, Succession, Tesla, OpenAI, ChatGPT, Microsoft and more when he was interviewed by the Wall Street Journal's Thorold Barker.
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I live in Scotland and can state that the Sun does not ‘show up every day’. I haven’t seen it for weeks.
Tupperware skies.
You need to take a pic. You can use your battery powered device to see it as often as you would like. Keep the sunblock handy ! 😊
I think that's called hell.
you know you can transfer electricity right?
@@WayneJohnsonZastil can you? I’ll take two buckets full please.
Elon: My recommendation is the tech I'm heavily invested in.
You're this close to understanding why he invested in the tech to begin with. THIS CLOSE
@@hardboiledaleks9012to get money
Also not counting the quantity of minerals actually available for extraction on Earth. Discards reality.
Why would he not invest in the tech he heavily recommends?
@@leob3641 he HAS to invest into it, he sells electric cars, investing into batteries is pretty much a requirement.
Because solar panels and batteries comes from nowhere and don’t need to be maintained.
I've had my panels for 12 years, zero maintenance, never even cleaned them, rain does that. Grid tied so no batteries.
Or have a life span of only 15 years, have no recycle value. and will end up in vast new landfills, leaching chemicals and microplastics into the ground water
Minimize batteries for essential overnight needs, focus on panels.
@@user-cg7dg7uv8fno recycling value? Lithium recycling plants have been opening up just because of evs...
@@gordo3582the grid needs daily maintenance
Fusion is economically more important than going to mars atm
Fusion doesn’t sell pies in the sky like “going to mars” does. Which is what Musk entire wealth is built on
Ok but theyre different fields so we can do both at the same time
@@Pishllenot if you want to reliably afford one of them. Mars is a one way trip, so I know which one I’d prefer.
Improved fission is even more important than fusion. There are new advance fission reactors that eliminate the dangers inherent in the older designs now in use. More money to refine and deploy those fission reactors would have better ROI and immediate effect on greenhouse gas emissions that fusion research does. Fusion is research while fission is operational and deployable today.
The tech is way over rated. The isotopes needed for controlled fusion are very rare and hard to concentrate. We should invest in it. But it's not actually going to solve the world's energy problems. I definitely think solar is a better deal.
"THERE IS A SOLUTION, I HAVE IT FOR SALE. BUY MY BATTERIES!"
You would still need batteries , even if we go the nuclear way . Duma$$ .
@@Ghost19ccc11 tfw you are too busy hating on elon to actually think about anything.
Either way you need batteries you dumb motherfucker. Imagine thinking ure actually smart
He doesn’t sell batteries, genius.
Of course he sells batteries. They come disguised as cars.
"...we already have a giant fusion reactor in the sky called the sun..."
Then why don't any of your factories run on it? You promised they would.
He “ talks” ALOT
What? Space x and giga factories are covered in solar panels. They use as much solar as they can... are you just slow?
Give him time, he has accomplished more than anyone I know of.
He is highly regulated by government.
@@junebarnett7350 yes a lot of bull💩smoje and mirrors and lies and wasting tax payers money
@@junebarnett7350 *_Solar Powered Factory [Link]_*
"2,209 days since Elon Musk promised that the Tesla Gigafactory would be solar powered by the end of 2019." (8/25/2018)
What government-regulation is forcing Elon Musk to break his solar-powered-factory promise?
"Fusion isn't the future because it won't benefit me financially."
Why does he like fission if he doesn’t like fusion? I don’t mean just because it benefits his business
He literally said at the end that he’s a fan of wind, geothermal, hydro and nuclear fission and those don’t benefit him either. Leftists are brainless.
Fusion is not the answer, he's right and the nuclear waist is more difficult to dispose of even tho the half life is shorter
He's definitely not saying this for his own profit margins... He doesn't need more money.
Read between the lines, inform yourself about the future of fusion on Earth, making working reactor might take 100 years, maybe more. He is proposing nuclear fission because it works way cleaner and safer than any coal and gas plant we are currently using (millions die each year from coal), the only problem i see with fission is inability of Western countries like US to make two reactors in 20 years for less than 40+ billion. China and Russia have capability to make one reactor in 5-7 years for 7-10 billion max, yet they somehow became our mortal enemies (that's what our politicians say). South Korea can make them like the other two, but they don't get orders because of corruption. God help us.
@Signal_Glow it's a joke sir.
Fusion is clean unlimited energy. Elon likes batteries that create pollution when mined
Holy shit... you need batteries to harness the energy provided by fusion, every phone, car, plane, etc etc is going to have batteries.. there is no way around that. Think before you speak
you still need to store that energy we're not gonna get mini fusion reactors in our equipment.
fusion solves the production problem. battery problems remain.
Fusion is bs. We are probably more than 100 years away from having the first Fusion reactors
The biggest issue is getting rid of nuclear waste. Has always been the issue
@@parkerganz487The universe is large enough to store these tiny remains somewhere...
A portable sun would be nice
ikr
fussion make space cars go weeeeew
"Would be"
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that would be nice. Like free food. Or portals. Doesn't mean they are possible
@@centura86and antimatter make them booooooooooooooooooommmmmmmmmm
That is pretty much an hydrogen bomb
Why does he like fission if he doesn’t like fusion? I don’t mean just because it benefits his business
...says the guy selling the batteries. It's like asking a barber if you need a haircut.
He also sells solar panels. This is a prime example of conflict of interest.
A capitalist acting like capitalist. What's this world coming to?
The batteries are critical. Being able to store what you produce is key. Oil and energy companies don't want this. And then they say it doesn't work. It does work. Firsthand experience.
Oh, " he's the smartest barber in the room",
isn't it obvious?
So what youre saying is , he's right.
I'm 100% with this. I started my solar system prior to 2010 when I retired. Nearly every year since then, I've been increasing the size of my system. I'm now finally charging my Ford lightning truck using sun power.
Recently, I added another 15.6 kwh of lipo4 batteries to my system. Originally, I never expected my system to ever pay for itself. Now that I drive my vehicle strictly with my solar system, I can finally say that my system will eventually pay for itself. From that day forward, I will be able to use as much electricity as I want at no cost whatsoever. I can't understand why people aren't taking advantage of our governments 30% of our annual solar equipment costs, directly taken off of the federal taxes we've paid for that year. Think of it as only paying two-thirds of the costs of the solar equipment that you purchase during the year. You're also allowed to roll that over into next years taxes if the 30% is more than the taxes you paid during that year.
That’s neat
That’s great but unfortunately we don’t have the storage to supply energy for an industrialised society.
This is also an old video, Musk has made statements since saying we need nuclear in the short term.
Why haven't I taken advantage of the government paying me back 30% of my costs to install Solar? Let me count the ways.
1) My credit score isn't high enough.
2) My state repealed the law letting home owners with solar power to sell back their excess energy to the grid.
3) Solar panels degrade over time. After the 20 years of paying for the panels, they will only be producing 60-ish percent of their original capacity.
4) My house faces the wrong direction and is kinda small, so I would only get full output for about 3 hours a day.
5) If Solar panels are so good and important, why don't every government building & public school have them?
6) If Solar panels are so good and important, why doesn't every parking lot have covered parking made of Solar panels?
I'm sure lots of people can add their own reasons.
Good for you but it's expensive to get started.
lol he is a battery salesmen of course he don't want nuclear fusion plants it would put him out of business
Why does he like fission if he doesn’t like fusion? I don’t mean just because it benefits his business
@@rednaxelaproductions7560 he says that to justify himself and i do like elon
No it wouldn't a fusion plant would be used up to refill his batteries...
@@gropatapouf5998 which would only send up battery stocks for him. Win-win really but Musk is speaking from a frankly realist standpoint.
The point he is making is that we do not have the time to wait for fusion energy to mature. We need to crank up renewable like RIGHT NOW if we don't want to live in flooded cities by the time we are about in the halfway point in our lives.
Or maybe hes trying to stop yall from being stupid and say go solar
How can you support energy from nuclear fission but not fusion?
It has nothing to do with supporting it, it’s not possible.
@@ashleigh3021 It's totally possible.
@@poop464 There’s a reason it’s never been commericalised.
@@ashleigh3021 Because it's in the it's infancy in terms of tech. There's been very few tests regarding cold fusion, and they have been monumental.
@@poop464 it’s not possible to product a fusion reactor which is why it’s never been done. If it was going to happen it would have, there have been multiple attempts.
Nuclear fission is probably the most important type of power we should invest in while we figure out fusion energy
The Chinese are developing small nuclear fusion reactors which can be used anywhere. Safe and clean. And they're way ahead. No need to mine minerals to create solar batteries.
Fission. Not fusion. I’m at the nuclear engineering program at TUNEM. First week but pretty sure I asked this question
He doesn't like nuclear fusion because he sells batteries but those will be obsolete when those nuclear fusion reactors start springing up.
Why is that? They would convert fusion into electricity and into existing grid. His batteries work with it.
You expect nuclear fusion reactors to be in your car by 2040? like what exactly are you saying here? Do you even know what you are saying at all?
@@hardboiledaleks9012 Yes I expect mini nuclear fusion reactors within 10 years. I also see a doubling of the human life span with cellular therapies in the next two to three decades as long as there is not a world war. With CRISPR and AI we can literally sequence and explore every single possible chromosome combination and examine how to edit out the genetic code which tells our cells to die after about middle age. I think this switch is in the DNA and could probably be turned on or off. Strangely, it is something in our genetic code which basically tells your bodies cells to slowly stop reproducing at the rate they were. This company is sleighted to build micro nuclear reactors for the US military
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@hardboiledaleks9012 companies are already planning to roll out the first nuclear fusion reactors in 2025, so yes, I know what I am saying. Granted nuclear fusion cars are a stretch, but we already created ignition multiple times in a lab. We are working on bringing it to scale now, so this is not some far-off fantasy reality, "Type One Energy Group has announced plans to build a prototype stellarator nuclear fusion reactor at the TVA's Bull Run Fossil Plant site in Clinton, Tennessee. The company could start construction of the fusion reactor, known as Infinity One, as early as 2025"
Why does he like fission if he doesn’t like fusion? I don’t mean just because it benefits his business
Yes, let’s push batteries because we can pretend they are clean. They use materials mined from the ground just like coal and oil. No difference.
Yeah It also takes tons of oil and coal to mine enough for a single battery. EV is far from green, they seem way worse. Also the water contaminated in the mining process.
At least they are not single-use, unlike coal and oil that you’re burning up. Hypothetically we could build enough batteries in a ramp-up to the level of demand, and then would only need batteries to be produced at a rate high enough to replace the relatively few that are failing, with the option to recycle those.
@@Finraenyour forgetting we need the infrastructure to charge those batteries which dramatically increases their carbon impact. Lorries, and long distance buses are completely impractical. Heavy plant machinery can’t be electrified. Container ships can’t be electrified. Aeroplanes can’t be electrified practically. Military vehicles, especially tanks cannot be electrified. So we will always need oil.
@@paulharrison8152with respect, all the above can and will be electrified. Some easier and quicker than others, of course.
@@TIonescu1 Large vehicles will never be electrified. Look at the size of them, the weight and the load capacities and anyone with an ounce of intelligence would realise it’s impossible. HGV/LGVs won’t. It has already been proven that the weight of the vehicle plus load is too much for most roads and bridges in the country. A fully loaded truck has hugely reduced range, which drops even more in cold weather. The trucks themselves are also too expensive to be economically viable. Military vehicles will never be electrified as in a war situation the likely hood of you having electricity to be able to recharge a vehicle. Also, how large a battery would you need for a Challenger 2 tank? It’ll never happen.
He is correct. Battery technology innovation is essential. Diversification for multiple renewable sources is also essential.
Elon musk is straight up not that smart, dude gets way too much credit
He's very smart and hardworking, dude.
feel free to be the chief engineer of the number 1 space launch provider in the world as well as chief engineer of a car company. You don't have the money? Do like elon did, Just create a company / service like paypall and sell it.
Let me guess, you won't do any of that. Let alone try.
He knows nuclear is better but it's not better for him
Yeah, he’s only revolutionized some of humanity’s most difficult industries but he’s not that smart. Ever considered that it’s you that isn’t smart? Clearly the left has brainwashed you into disliking him just because he’s pro-free speech
People, well the bad kind, equate wealth with intelligence and even worth as a human being. When in fact the opposite is the norm.
When fusion becomes commercial, it'll be a huge benefit to mankind.
Nuclear fission is here. It's clean, safe, stable and reliable. Makes solar and wind redundant for the good of all of us
Maybe not redundant, nuclear fission is still dependant on power transmission lines. Wind, solar and batteries can make good independent and emergency powers sources when those transmission lines are down.
Elon: I sale solar panel only these days
Elon musk is the biggest Vapor wear salesman on this planet
He's the richest man on earth. Your living paycheck to paycheck. What were you saying?
@unitedwestand420 wealth isnt a sign of intelligence. Some of brightest minds to live have died without a penny to their name. Musk isnt special. Hes just a salesman and self promoter, similar to Grant Cardone.
@@unitedwestand420offcourse you only value money over anything else, that's the only language you understand, like a psychological prostitute and that sounds like a healthy mind.
Not an argument.
@@unitedwestand420he wanted to name his son some gibberrish you cant even write in ASCII just to have people talk about him. What were you saying?
'not easily' as you say...
Geothermal is the elephant in the room, imho...
Richest man on earth can’t afford a razor
Richest man on earth cannot afford a real beard! Still sporting pubescent growth or maybe pubic,
You tend to find the richer people are the less they feel the need to present themselves as such. You shave because you want to look like someone you're not.
@@hardboiledaleks9012You’re right. I shave because I don’t want to look like a bum.
What about us in Alaska, Elon? We get less than 4 hours of sun a day, farther north they don't see the sun for a couple months. Are your batteries going to last that long?
Then problem is the weather, is a limitation, so FUSION ENERGY is a must have.
Have you heard of batteries
You are fine if you have a national power grid and batteries. Energy can be smoothed over time.
@@Nuke-MarsXhave you heard batteries are a joke for seasonal storage? There no utility battery storage facility that can backup a single 500 MW solar farm or power plant, not anywhere in the world. Not ONE, when a million are needed. Are you still writing letters to Santa Claus.
@@Nuke-MarsX but we don’t have batteries like that. That's the problem. Batteries are unreliable just like the weather, they lose energy over time and we can't store that much energy. And if the weather is cloudy or you're in a northern area of the world you'll need to rely on batteries for too long or have like 5 different power generation methods to keep the power on. Instead you could just have one, fusion. It could power everything easy.
@@777jones batteries that can story large amounts of energy long term like that don't exist. That's the problem.
I agree. Find us the rare earth minerals, and the things we need for the batteries and storage and tell us how we’re gonna recycle them.
He is so wrong about this.. how the f$&k big would a battery be to power an entire city like New York? 😂😂😂😂 Elon is smoking some good shizen
Probably segmentation, so alot of smaller batteries in key places
He's just a grandstanding pet, and he knows he's dying of old age
Batteries are used for storing energy. Because the sun is constantly creating energy during the day even when we don't need it, that energy can be put into batteries so we can use them later at night when we need to use them, but the sun isn't out. Can you explain to me how he is wrong?
You're missing the point @@Droobie03
@@ChigosGames What's the point?
I like the ocean wave motion generators
An insanely tough environment perfect for destroying machines, mechanical and electro chemically.
There’s a good reason why offshore wind has over three times the maintenance cost of onshore wind. And that is with as little of the connection machine exposed to the sea.
The first time I have to disagree with Musk.
I'm quite used to it.
Do you agree with him on hyper loop, do you agree with saying he will have fully self drivable cars by 2014, 2016 and 2019? Do you agree with him taking billions in tax dollars and paying 0 tax for something NASA could have made 10 years ago?
@@zackofpersia5086, how about his home heaters that are suppose to heat the whole room for pennies and don't even heat the plug, how about his power saving device that is suppose to cut electri bills in half. My bill went up 9$ a month. What about his 20k biohealers that would not heal a head ache. This cat is nothing more than a scammer.
@@zackofpersia5086damn Zack he ain’t gonna give you a job with this much D riding but keep at it i guess
So to be clear, renewables are not fool proof. The still involve extremely damaging processes such as mining, and you need to build an TON of them. Which will necessitate clearing massive stretches of area. And because it's politically difficult to explain that food prices are going to become sky high, that's going to be forests that are important for REMOVING carbon contamination, and even putting them far away might potentially mean the dirty and polluting work of literally carving out areas. Speaking of which, they also need to be positioned in places that they are useful in. You can't put solar panels in heavy forests, nor can you put wind turbines in places that aren't very windy, such as cities where buildings block the wind. So you're going to need to put them somewhere else. Lots of space, efficient running. Well, deserts work for that. Places with extreme temperature swings that can and will make maintenance expensive, resource intensive, and time consuming. All of which will cause problems. After that, you'll only need to build thousands upon thousands of high voltage power cables potentially nearly half a meter thick that go potentially thousands of miles, as well as likely many times the current power infrastructure to handle that. So you'll need to mine out several decades of the entire world's production of copper, aluminum, steel, and other mining demand to supply that electricity to places that actually use it. Otherwise you're just wasting your time and polluting as cities continue to rely on fossil fuels. Mining on that scale would likely undo all of the progress we have actually made as none of the CO2 in the atmosphere would have any time to be taken up by trees and plants, and would essentially be dumped into the atmosphere like a bucket of crap into a kiddie pool. After that, you need to build millions, probably several billion batteries ranging from power storage to those used in cars to actually get any use of this sort of infrastructure. Something you wouldn't need to do with fission or fusion as neither requires power storage due to consistently being able to produce more regardless of most external conditions. Building these batteries will be a production increase of several orders of magnitude, which requires TONS of materials. More mining, more pollution. And this is all without even discussing the inefficiency of trying to get hundreds of different governments to work together, and the fact we literally DO NOT HAVE THE MEANS. Do not ignore the problems with a technology simply because it sounds good, or you like a founder. There is also an obvious issue with what we do past solving one problem. Renewables won't work for anything but fixing that ONE problem. A big problem, but still just one of many. What do we do once we solve climate change? Expensive upkeep of a planet scale system designed not with efficiency, but with climate in mind. A system we'd need to have running for decades to undo any of the damage we did in making the damn thing, and one that is easy to argue is mal-investment when you consider all of that time, money, and ingenuity could have gone towards actually fixing the problem instead of making an inefficient and ridiculously short sighted system that will essentially need to be replaced every 2 decades.
"no maintenance"
The are countries don't have much sun light ,, how to fix this problem ?
He’s Probably thinking too far ahead, his brain is in the Dyson sphere technology era. We’re no where close to that unfortunately.
The scale he's talking about is like replacing all the trillions of oil barrels with.... trillions of batteries?
Isn't there an h2o powered revolution going on right now...? I don't see a problem with a hybrid future
Fusion energy can power space ships for long journeys. SpaceX should look into it.
Point is that NOW it can’t power anything. We already have good sources of energy that work was Elons point.
@@PatchedBanditnuclear works fine, it powers ships and submarines, pretty sure it could power a space ship.
Saying that means you have exactly 0 idea how complicated fusion reactors are.
@@paulharrison8152 nuclear can't power a spaceship because of an international treaty that banned it.
@@hardboiledaleks9012 you know treaties can be rewritten don’t you?
My Greenie friend says the same ... but 1) ~20% conversion efficiency to E, 2) it's very dilute, 3) very intermittent weather & 24hr. . So to address this energy source REQUIRES massive investment in conversion, energy transfer and energy storage. I *suspect" small nuke plants have fewer tech problems.
I respectfully disagree. I may be wrong about this but taking all the power we can from the Sun will be extremely hard. Theoretical structures like the Dyson sphere are way too advanced for our civilization - especially due to where we are on the Kardashev scale (~0.7 - 0.8). I think that solar panels are not going to be good enough at taking all that energy from the Sun to help power our Earth. They also have downsides like cost, efficiency, and more. Creating our own nuclear fusion device is more within our reach civilization-wise and will be a way better asset to powering the Earth. Solar panels aren't bad overall and should definitely be used but I just feel they aren't the best at getting energy from our Sun and taking full advantage of its power output if you get what I mean.
This is just what I think so feel free to give me some points on this.
Point number one on Dyson sphere: Dyson spheres are impratical and game scifi only, the real thing is at Dyson swarms if humanity legit decided to we could have one fully built by 2070, since its a cluster of tiny solar pannels instead of a giant sphere around the sun they are modular so can be built one by one creating more energy as we build more so to power even more mining on a planet like Mercury and using that energy exponentially to mine out Mercury more until we strip it clear of resources and harness the sun, after that game goes to creative mode all other means of energy are relatively useless unless you are travelling through the void of space in a space ship (Skill issue I know right?, real ones drive stars with Kaplan thrusters to wherever we so desire.)
Agreed. This thinking is only for the current needs of Earth, but won't get us much higher on the Kardashev scale
@@09dinodudeYeah, you basically summed it all up lol.
Bruh, I just wrote the same thing, even mentioning the dyson sphere. Zeitgeist is really in play here.
You lost the plot if you think we need a dyson sphere to power earths energy consumption. Enough energy hits the surface of the earth to heat the entire earths surface to an average 15 degrees. Do you have any idea how much energy that is compared to what humans use? Clearly you don't but I mean feel free to answer.
Im biased for nuclear fission. I served in the Navy as a nuclear power mechanic. Thorium Molten Salt, is fascinating to me. Currently limited by materials science.
Very well said Elon ❤
I totally agree with you 😊
The Nuclear Fusion Project always seems to be 20 years away 😅 and we are running out of time 😰
The key is what you said "no miracles needed, just work" 👍👍👍
Making a solar panel megaproject for the whole world is way further than 20 years away tho
Reliable batteries are just as far away. Reliable solar panels might never happen.
well then take a look at the amount of energy we need to maintain solar panel fields, mining (limited) recourses and so on, we don’t know if fusion is gonna do what it could do, but it’s promising enough to try, moreover we’re making progress. I’m not saying that solar power will eventually become irrelevant, but we’re gonna have to find a equilibrium between fusion and all the other green forms of energy. I say Elon you focus on developing and improving new batteries, and let others focus on fusion. Humanity’s gonna have to work together to secure it’s future.
Solar panels work for only 6 hours and it's on sunny days
Musk is living proof of: "It is better to remain silent and let others think you are stupid, than open up your mouth and remove all the doubt."
He’s revolutionized some of humanity’s toughest industries. You libs are braindead.
Lmao 😂
That isn't the same as fusion power exactly, but he is about Right either way
Huh, I wonder who is selling the batteries
Usually the person selling the solution is the same one who identified the problem. Or created the problem.
Personally I don't think elon musk is the one who created climate change. So I'd be leaning towards the idea that he's probably just selling us a solution to a problem.
Newer generation reactors can utilize the already existing fuel from older reactors. No mining needed. We have thousands of years of fuel ready to use already. Using this fuel in more modern reactors renders it much less toxic also than leaving it in its current state.
True
I’m no fan of Elon Musk but he’s absolutely right about this. The solution may not work for Scotland for the Arctic, but most of the world needs can be met that way, and in fact, solar can be converted to hydrogen and shipped to Scotland if that’s the problem, one look at fusion technologytells you that even if it will ever work, it will take decades after a proof of concept to turn it into a commercial product. It’s a truly insane level of complexity.
Ug. I’d like to think this is one he hasn’t thought through. “No maintenance”? The machinery on the ground requires vast factories to produce, almost all of it in China, vast amounts land, vast amounts of battery, which require vast amounts of mining, and vast amounts of recycling which doesn’t exist anywhere at scale.
Lands is taking too far, but in a way I agree with the rest, if it takes 1 million solar panels on earth to equal a nuclear reactor then the nuclear reactor is far better since less space used and relatively easier building materials to be extracted therefore poluting WAY less.
@@Aureonw Takes 17 million PV panels to produce same annual energy of one 1GW reactor, double that to get through winter, 34 million panels, or 68 million panels to produce the same winter energy as a 2GW, two reactor plant. That’s 20,000 MW of PV, using std land coverage of 5 acres/MW is 100,000 acres, to replace just one plant. One.
Also, multiply that by a thousand or a million and the output is still zero at night. By itself, no amount of PV is the “same” as nuclear.
@@Nill757 On Earth that is correct, with even the best theoretical technologies solar on earth can only produce 342 watts per square matter at max so to produce one gigawatt we need 2923976 square meters or 722 acres at its maximum possible value which honestly, I do not see us reaching anwhere close to it even in 100 years from now, much simpler to pull up a highfleet and make a city sized nuclear reactor to power up the entire global grid, or mini ones spread out as to not lose too much energy due to distance.
Of course in that case is right.. Fushion reactor is made for intergalactic wrap drive as main power supply
You can see the moment he realized that what he just said was totaly Stupid
I love solar power. I bought a porch light 4 years ago for 30 dollars on amazon and it still works. It lights up the whole yard. I don't have to pay electricity. It is also a motion sensor.
That's nice. Now we just need to tell Earth to never go overcast because we need the sun to shine enough for enough energy to meet demand.
The sun is shining somewhere on the planet. he says its hard work, the miracle is getting countries to work together..
Mining Lithium batteries is harmless 😂
Batteries, solar panels and wind mills require maintenance. And have a guaranteed downtime especially solar panels in 24hr. I think thorium or fusion reactors are better options.
Yes, need to increase the efficiency of the energy conversion processes..
Elon musk the billionaire, the owner of the car company that's completely dependant on the inhumane battery industry that he most likely is invested in wants the entire world to be dependent on batteries??😮 No way
Geothermal is so under discussed. It’s not as simple as in writing, but we could quite easily turn funding away from, oh, I don’t know, international wars? Maybe? Then use the money to start drilling as far down as we need in as many places geologically stable enough for it to be viable. It’s not free energy, but it is INFINITELY renewable.
His opinion is like businessman not a environment lovers. After 15 to 20 yrs we have big problem of waste like batteries and solar panels in millions tons. Wait and watch....
I have to disagree.
Although solar, wind, hydro, and fusion all use input that are free :
That is, sun, wind, rain, and the sea respectively.
But there is one big difference.
- sun don't always shine.
- wind don't always blow.
- rain don't always come.
But the sea is ALWAYS there!! And it's free and limitless.
So nuclear fusion is the ultimate solution to limitless constant energy.
Elon what happens when you have a week of ☁️ 😂
He said it ill say it again,... batteries
No he didn’t say anything about a “week”, because there is no such battery, not at any scale. Make one for a house and it would be a good fraction the size of the house.
@@Nill757 if you are connected to the grid you just get the electricity back from it for the excess you had and gave to them. And in the end you still pay 0 or even get paid
@@Nuke-MarsX “back”
There is no “back” with electricity. Use or lose it. There no cellar load up in summer and get it back winter. And, kWh don’t all have the same value. The most valuable ones are the ones always available, 24/7, night day winter summer. That’s value.
As to cost to produce, utility can make its own solar 5x more cheaply and more reliably than any rooftop rig. Their farms are always facing due south, tracking or tilted at the right angle, no shadowing, high quality high efficiency panels, and regularly maintained. Most rooftop falls short on all of this. So, the utility neither needs nor wants any rooftop solar, but are forced to take it. The current situation is like having the local grocer forced to buy half assed backyard vegetables, which would increase the price of groceries, just as the price of utility power is going up.
Yeah cover all our field and meadows in reflective glass sheets. Animals will love that
Fission can be quite polluting because shutting them down requires tons of concrete. Cement production is quite polluting (current technology).
This is one of the few things i dont agree with elon on.
Fission is far less powerful than fusion and fusion also doesnt have any use for weaponry and releases no radiation like fission. It doesnt require uranium or plutonium and no radioactive bi-product. Just helium
I wish you all the success and to keep inspiring us ❤
It’s amazing because God is amazing Elon.
It's rare to see Musk in short-sighted mode. What about fusion-powered space travel, underground/underwater facilities, and what about the huge land, water and space spaces occupied by solar panel?
Hydro and wind are also from sun fusion energy. Geothermal is mostly from Thorium fission. Yes to solar panels, yes to batteries, and perhaps more importantly, yes to million volt DC cables to route the solar, wind, hydro to where it is needed to reduce reliance on so many batteries. And yes to safe fission and yes to fusion if we can make it work.
May work one day but is definitely not affordable today. Unclean and leaves wreckage every where it is installed, burns up cars. Cost a fortune to replace batteries, causes hazardous waste / toxic if involved in a crash . Let's move to something affordable and safe such as oil
I've always kept my fusion reactor at a safe yet convenient distance of 150 million km, more or less.
I truly love Elon, but I disagree with him on a few things: Rather than going straight to EVs, use hybrids to lessen the impact of automobile emissions and allow time to really develop battery technology. Solar power will not run power plants, fusion reactors could and be clean about it. Let's utilize the arsenal of technologies to manage our impact on the environment.
"on my opinion, the best solution here is to use technology that I so happen to sell."
1. You can't get the sun everywhere.
2. No one will fully convert to solar because it's hard to monetise.
3. Battery tech is good but far from perfect.
There are so many issues with this. Source = I'm an environmental engineering major
the problem is that people are already whining about how too many solar plants disrupt the clima and how if you were to plaster the afrikan deserts with solar plants that the whole world would sink into chaos and stuff. so nuclear fusion is a bit more compact and has a better conversion rate, at least i think that's the reasoning i heard.
i mean we could also try producing solar sattelites, then we need to find a way to send energy wireless, but i don#t know if this is more realistic.
but hey, those people are the experts, in the end i don't give a crap where my energy comes from.
I rarely say this about Musk, but he's not wrong.
Solar is an option, but we have a long way to go and the total cost for that infrastructure is much higher than commercial fusion reactors will be...
but enough solar and enough batteries and we wouldn't need fusion reactors... but we will probably do them anyway.... besides, we need the helium.
To lobby for fission power but not fusion seems very odd to me. Fusion has all the benefits of fission but is more efficient and a whole lot safer. Fission we already have, that’s the only advantage of this technology. We will crack fusion in the next few decades, but it would go a lot faster, if we threw more money at it - and the money is there, we just choose to not use it for this.
Right at the end there, I realized he was making a distinction between fission and fusion. And I realized I don't know the difference. Let's see what I can learn...
Fission takes heavy atoms like Uranium and splits them releasing energy. Fusion takes light atoms like Hydrogen and forces them together to make heavier atoms like Helium, also releasing energy. Wikipedia can explain in greater detail.
I really wish Elon would get involved in making roads solar
I believe battery technology will continue to improve and will eventually become the cheapest part of our home solar systems.
What about geothermal energy? The earth produces tons if free energy everyday, and it doesn't require tearing up the earth to make cobalt batteries
We don’t need things that directly compete or would bankrupt my companies. Thanks you very much.
Does this reactor work at night?
Actually we have a giant reactor right under our feet. If we can drill for oil we can drill also for geothermal power.
I'm completely in disagreement. And I feel that an assorted bunch of other experts share my same point of view.
There are things that you can't power with batteries, begining with the primary heavy industry; imagine an arc furnace and an aluminum smelter. A stationary grid battery is very good for LED light bulbs and computers, but it isn't well suited for air conditioning, for home heating, and EV charging.
The consumption of solar panels isn't high enough to explain the waste it costs to replace them.
And what is the WEF suggesting? Blocking out the sun, thank goodness for solar cells. Also batteries degrade, not that they had that much capacity to replicate a normal electric infrastructure to begin with.
Having said that, last I read Fusion reactos had actually managed to sustain the reaction, I mean sure you still need the electeic grid to maintain the machinery operating but at least the fusion itself isn't also pulling from the grid.
Im not saying its pointless but I am saying solar is unreliable and short lived, while the other maybe 100 years away from actually outputting into the grid.
The problem is the batteries but the new solid state lithium batteries are showing potential
For last 30M yrs the Pistol Shrimp generates plasma cavitation water bubbles to crack clam shells by snapping it's claw. The EirexTech uses cavitation to break the water molecule for overunity zero pollution energy.
Nuclear for the win. Until photovoltaics gain true traction, nuclear is the best option.
Somebody get Elon to comment on Thorium reactors please. We should be powering almost everything with TR's by now.
He is right ..Solar energy is very good... Improvement with PV systems needs little more time but is close . Only problem we have on earth is human greed and differences lots people maintain ....other wise solar energy electricity is fairly easy to transport and storage.
At this point I'm wondering if one day we'll find out Musk was on heroin this entire time, or if he just has permanent brain damage from no sleep and an moon-sized egomania.
Usually the critics without any technical information are artist's.
@@choosers5177interesting … that you had no technical information. Oh, C=2 Pi r
He could be on heroin but I'd imagine he's still smarter than you 😂
nah, its just you being dumb
Deep down inside, Musc is a very insecure individual, wouldn't you be?
Stopping wind to produce energy cant be a renewable energy and clean energy
He is wrong on this. Unless you cover everything with dirty panels. Panels that don’t last and make a toxic byproduct. Fracked quartz is a serious problem with solar panels
I'm a Technician in electricity/Automation... Elon is Smart... But he have no experience on the ground... It's impossible to get all the energy that we need in the way he recommended...
1. We need to stop producing things things that are useless... That's the problem of our society... Useless consumption/production... If we build/make something... It has to be useful and last "forever"... THAT'S THE ONLY WAY...
"You will own nothing and be happy"... It seems dark as a concept but make sense (even from a psychological point of View)
*ELON is not the smartest guy in the room...
Disagree completely... We need Nuclear.
What do we do with the solar batteries when they wear out. Currently there is no recycling for them and the metals and minerals that are in them are horrible for a landfill.
I like the way he throws in fission at the end.
Great to hear you saying these words Elon 👍
Funny thing is that all of the super expensive and delicate nuclear fusion takomaks are experimental! 😂
Our biggest issue are storage of power and the safety measures needed to keep these baterys safe. We all know what happens when these modern accu,s start to mess up. The average ev car fire needs to be put out by submerging the darn things for weeks and even then they stil can relight... The wind and solar can be enough but we are lacking the storage part for such a system👍🏻
Seemingly, the sun requires maintenance, but we couldn't have any clue, who is responsible for the stability of suns temperature for the last billions of years. Dominions? Thrones? Powers? Principalities?