What Happened to Cloudsdale? MLP G5
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Where is Cloudsdale in MLP G5? What could have happened to this magnificent city between the Events of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic and A New Generation? Today we explore just that!
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The video topic is on My Little Pony: Friendship Is magic (AKA MLP FIM) and My Little Pony A New Generation. We get an idea as to how characters such as Sunny Starscout Izzy Moonbow Hitch Trailblazer Zipp Storm and Pipp Pedals might find Cloudsdale. We look at the events between MLP G4 And MLP G5.
It was a really good theory, unfortunately it was confirmed zephit heights isn't canterlot as they will visit a ghost town canterlot in the comics
ok just a theory
but what if the abandoned canterlot was on some otherside of the mountain that no one really touch?
@@LEMINH-wq7ef well seeing the G5 map and comparing it to the G4 one it seems like the 3 cities are closer to Manhattan than to canterlot
Oh can you tell me the comic issue number? I wanna read it
@@aminaali2010 It's issue number 1 to 10 of the new G5 comics
@@paolopol05 thank you!
If they renamed it Zephyr Heights because Zephyr Breeze is remembered as a legendary Pegasus hero?
That would be totally hilarious.
w a i t
What?
@@sunstreaker913 Fluttershy's (throwaway character) brother.
@@neevynitsy7967 i knew that but I was a bit confused on the meaning of the comment.
*wheeze*
It would be very interesting to see a war between canterlot and cloudsdale,
The weather factory alone could cause a lot of damage to canterlot
Imagine the entire city invading .....
Also the pegasus were always been known for being warrior and canterlot doesn't have any defense except the location of the city and some powerful unicorns, so the smartest option to them is surrender
The weather factory can also be used to create destructive acid rains.
@@somerandomdude7785 acid rain??? No
If pegasi are shown to be warrior tribes, then why don't we see their savage & barbaric personalities?
@@somerandomdude7785 I think he meant Military.
They always had a strong military
The wonder bolts are a military group
They also helped defeat grogar
the best theory made until today is that g4 is only a book made by sunny's father to teach her that friendship beteen the 3 races is possible, and it happened in the past (but not with the mane 6).
this would explain why only sunny and her father know about the mane 6
That's a very interesting theory! It started in a storybook from Season 1 of G4 to the very last episode within the last page of the storybook.
Ok this is interesting and makes sense bc of how at the end and start of G4 there’s a story book, however……if this is true I will literally start crying and wish I never watched G5 bc like HELL NAW
This will be weird cause we have seen a glass portraying Twilight Sparkle's cutie Mark. So does that mean, another pony knows about this story too? But why such investment in making a giant glass about a fictional story? I know in many fandoms, they paint their characters on a wall but to last years?
(This is just me overthinking)
@@underloveryz2731 Yeah, this theory was completely destroyed after Make Your Mark release, you should ignore it now, lol
@@neey3832 I honestly didn't watch it 😕
So Cloudsdale is like the pegasus Death Star. Though it's also where all their children live, so maybe bringing it to the battlefield against the quintessential ranged class is not the best idea.
In any case, it seems that the "ZH is Canterlot" idea was scrapped. The movie crew thought about it, but they didn't dare confirm it. They didn't deny it either, though. The location on the map and the overall topography don't match very well, but who knows, maybe the showrunners will decide to bring this idea back anyway.
As for Cloudsdale, I like the idea that the clouds surrounding ZH are what's left of it, but they are most likely an aesthetic detail with no deeper meaning to the story, just like Pipp's wings and the random flying critters.
There's an old version of the script where the pegasi had a weather machine that was powered by the crystal, and the unicorns and earth ponies also used their crystals as energy sources. But in the actual movie, they really wanted to push the idea that there was no magic left at all. Then again, apparently they didn't count the Sun, the Moon and the cutie marks as magic, so who know what else doesn't count.
Cloudsdale is more like Columbia from BioShock Infinite, a giant floating city that also serves as a warship led by a religious figure. (Although Cloudsdale doesn't have a specific leader)
@@somerandomdude7785 Interesting. I've never played BioShock, but I've seen images of Columbia around and it looks incredible. I actually asked one of the G5 concept artists if it was an inspiration for ZH, but they didn't answer.
It's a shame that we never got to see who is in charge or Cloudsdale. The only authority figure we ever see from there is Spitfire.
Well, like they said all this aesthetic and plot holes can be used for a new lore. Hope the series writer will make used of it. I heard they still didn't know what to do with what happened that leads to the current world in G5 when the movie is still in the making. I want an episode where the Pegasi are looking into the Cloudsdale ruined after regaining back their magic and were in awe of the level of magic and technology of this ancient empire known as Equastria as they are able to control the weather and also Season. Even after regaining their magic, they were left unable to understand the magic and technology to control the weather in Cloudsdale as so much times have passed and they were extremely disconnected from the ancient knowledge of magic and technology of Equastria.
Then what would the unicorn episode be?
@@somerandomdude7785 Princess Celestia's School for Gifted Unicorn ruined and various magic research, knowledge and magic artifacts keep within it's. Maybe something along the lines they found it deep buried somewhere.
If unicorns have magic & pegasi have weather as weapons, then the earth ponies will have the technology to build scary war machines. (Just look at Sprout's mech)
Unless the war dragged on for a long time, I doubt thier technology would be much more, if any more advanced than the other ponies. Because before the war, they would all be at the same level of technology.
They would definitely try and find a way to counter the other pony kinds though. I am currently working on a theory as to how they would do just that.
If technology didn't help the earth ponies win, then their great connections to this planet will.
The earth ponies absolutely have food access, the issue is how they are going to defend it.
@@ksc1253 Strength in numbers.
I would say that Earth ponies are more durable and have more physical strength. They are also one with nature.
They more than likely used thier physical strength for combat by breaking the necks of unicorns and pegasi whenever they got close enough.
The weather being automated in Equestrian isn't entirely new. We've seen the frozen area around the Crystal Empire's weather be uncontrollable even with two Alicorns fighting it off, and the Everfree Forest is stated to have it's own ecosystem and weather that doesn't rely on the ponies' manipulations. What do these two areas have in common? There are no ponies who live there and have the abilities to control the weather. Zecora, being a zebra, has no wings, and the crystal ponies seem to mainly be earth ponies with Hope and the old princess from the comics as well as Cadence's family and later Sunburst being the only exceptions as far as residents with wings and horns go.
My theory for the weather is that when the magic was locked away after the tribes fought, the ecosystems of Equestria adapted and became self sufficient. We don't know exactly how long the time jump between the generations is, but if it's enough time that current generations forgot about Twilight and her friends, as well as the harmony the ponies had before, then it's definitely possible for enough time to pass for that to happen.
I just assumed that because of the loss of magic the Pegasi lost their unique ability to fly up to Cloudsdale or even stand on it. I bet it's still there but with no Pegasi guiding it anymore it was just left abandoned and floated away to become a fairytale lost sky city.
What happens if a pegasus dump toxic waste into a cloud? Will it make an acid rain?
I guess. And I'm pretty sure that would be a war crime our world. But I don't know if ponies play by the same rules. I mean, "Depriving a prisoner of war of a fair trial" is also a war crime, and they do that all the time.
Isn't that similar to what happens in fallout Equestria
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God, never thought about it this way but you're right !! I hope they make used of this fact even though this is unlikely.
Wow. I love the worldbuilding of G-4 myself; I sure hope they give us some nice stuff in G-5 as well!
*theory one:*
chances are, Cloudsdale evaporated when magic disappeared because it was that magic that gave the floating city both its stability and structure, and this is especially true when you consider that Cloudsdale looked to have been made more out of magic then just clouds being clumped together.
If not, then it was likely abandoned because Pegasi:
1.) couldn't fly, so they couldn't return.
2.) probably lost their standing-on-clouds ability when they lost their flight.
*Theory Two:*
If we follow along the lore recent G5 comics gave us, it would mean that Cloudsdale had the real possibility that it was obliterated during an attack conducted by another tribe, likely Unicorns. This attack would then prompt the Pegasi to invade canterlot by using their air superiority and their control over the weather. the battle would end in victory for the Pegasi, forcing the Unicorns to Evacuate into what would be known as Bridlewood.
The now-desolate Canterlot was rebuilt by the Pegasi, then they would claim it as their own, renaming it Zephyr Heights and eventually establishing their own Monarchy.
*What did Earth ponies use to defend themselves?*
They likely fought using the brute strength that they're historically known for having, or they simply ran away from their attackers, which is what they likely did the most frequently as they would be grossly outmatched if faced with either a Pegasus or Unicorn.
My theory is that before g5 actually started, the weather factory stopped working then the pegasi moved Cloudsdale to the mountain then positioned the clouds around the mountain then the crystals got separated which causes the ponies to lose their magic like they can't levitate stuff or fly but there is enough magic left to show cutie marks then the ponies worked together to get crystals back together then reunite pony tribes.
It seems to me that Cloudsdale became a lost city in the sky as the Pegasi lost their abilities to fly and walk on clouds.
It’s G5 they made G1, G2, and G3 before right and it didn’t explain the new and old characters, places, or how it suddenly became another generation so it’s normal how G4 was finished like G1, G2, and G3
If the pegasi starts out as militaristic before Equestria existed, i'd bet a dime that the Mane 5 will encounter some pegasi barbarians in the series.
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Thunderhead if Thunderhead wasnt in the wrong timeline.
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I think its because they lost their magic because a pony without wings can't walk on clouds. So they lost their magic, that a Pegasus can't walk on clouds or they'll just fall off. So they moved to Zephyr Heights with the idea of The Queen which how she became a queen.
Actually now we have confirmation that Zephyr height is not Canterlot :(
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Since Sparkel's Seven Canterlot got a permanent upgrade to it's air space defenses with wind turbines that were designed to hinder the flying ability of invading enemies. Only very skilled flyers would be able to counter it, but even then it's unlikely that an whole army would be able to infiltrate the air space and be able to pass them. If Zephyr Heights is rebuild Canterlot, the pegasi would have had to invade Canterlot prior loosing magic from their bodies, as there's little to no chance an weaken less magical army of pegasi would be able to do aerial invasion with the deference system up, even if and when they would be having skilled flyers.
I'd imagine Zipp telling everyone to lick the red part of the rainbow.
The clouds in everfree forest move on their own so... why can´t the rest of the world?
The Everfree Forest is described in the first episode to be quote: "Just ain't natural".
So clouds are not meant to move on their own. The Everfree Forest is the exception, similar to how the wind around the crystal empire is enchanted, preventing Rainbow Dash from being able to hold the clouds back in the crystaling episode.
So, Cloudsdale is like Columbia from BioShock Infinite, except that it doesn't have a religious figure.
I love this, best info, graphics and voice EVER!!!
I had just assumed as magic faded Cloudsdale was moved over top of Canterlot and eventually just fell apart above the city and the Unicorns ran away from the city as it's architecture incorporated magic and there was no "war". The Unicorns abandoned the City running to the Everfree where the tree of Harmony was and the pegasi picked up the pieces. Which mean yes I am saying Bridalwood is the Everfree Forest/Ponyville, which is why the place is forest full of crystals. As it grew back the Tree Of Harmony either spread into the forest of Unicorns took cuttings assuming growing new crystal trees would restore magic. Since losing magic depowered the monsters the Everfree was safe to settle and it's canopy hid them from the Pegasi. As to earth ponies, they just stayed in place while the Unicorns and Pegasi ran of to Canterlot and The Everfree respectively.
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Great, now ya gave people brain conclusions due to you hitting them with that subscribe stick lol
This is the 5th video that I have ever left a like on lol
My head cannon is that 5g is actually the far future from Fallout: Equestia
Also incase if you do review thomas and the magic railroad one day, their is gonna be a very huge detail about it that you would have to know and will answer your question on why you thought the plot was weird as a grownup, even though I’m those rare people who still like the plot just fine lol but yeah look that up and you be amazed
@@kingtechnology9350 it’s not that weird, I liked the shining time characters interacting with the model trains considering it’s all shot in real life and basically their was a thomas spin off show called shining time station so that’s where those human characters came from as I eventually found out, the tumbleweed no idea why that’s there maybe some of mr. conductor’s magic touched it at one point but I don’t mind, and do I even need to mention Neil crone as diesel 10? like who can hate that character and Hummie mann’s music too lol
All the pegasi must've moved to Zephyr Heights. Who was the mayor of Cloudsdale, anyway?
Plot twist. G5 is just one massive ogres and Oubliettes game created by Discord to feel real.
This is why nothing makes sense. It's Discord.
I have an idea of how the wather works for itself. We know Celestia and Luna were responsable for the sun and the moon and the pegasus for the weather, so we asummed that after their retirement Twilight will take over the sun and moon and the pegasus will continue doing what they do. BUT at the end of G4 we see Twilight and her friends aged up and the sun setting behind them, but Twilight wasn't doing anything. So mabey she did some kind of spell or machine that made the solar cycle automat, mabey she did something similar for the wather
Did Twilight cause the downfall of Cloudsdale ?, because she is only ruler left now that Celestia and Luna have retired from ruling Equestria how does Twilight able to keep the peace between the races if she's the only one left ? Her friends won't live forever and I doubt that her student won't keep the peace between the races of ponies for long before G5
If I remember correctly someone said zephyr heights isn't Canterlot.
I forgot who & it'd take to long to go through everything, but the map in the movie is the Canon. I think the one on that image was just for selling toys & stuff as it was only part of marketing products.
It's the movie director saying that.
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Wait doesn't magic among other things allow them to interact with clouds? when they loose their magic they loose Cloudsdale
Yes, they would.
Idk when I’ll release it but do you just want me to wait till you get better or me hiring someone else? which do you want me to do? also I’ll just go ahead and tell you who you’re playing just incase, on the comic whenever you read it, you be the boy in the blue shirt at the bottom of it with the line in it’s speech bubble if you get what I’m saying.
You can go ahead and get someone else to do it. I don't mind.
@@Star_Strike so be it, oh well better luck next time
Why does it feel like Fallout Equestria happened between g4 and g5 lol
That would explain alot but there's 1 thing that completely debunks this. Magic completely disappeared and the wepons used to destroy the world in fallout Equestria was magic bombs.
star strike could be a new character in Mlp G5
Starting to get worse as Phantom horn talk about the all powerful unicorn maybe you're right that the pegasi portray the Unicorn an Epic War battle and the Earth Ponies were no threat as we see in G5 the fear in both Nations but there's one powerful Pony we didn't hear about Starlight glimmer? And what really started the war we seen what one Pony can do from cozy glow two Pony of Shadows. What sort of conspiracy theory will come up next
I swear you guys just don’t wanna wait till the series comes to have all your ranting questions answered can ya?
After reading the interview with the director for the movie, I honestly don't think they have answers for 99% of the questions people have.
Plus speculation is fun.
@@Star_Strike so like their keeping secret till it’s out lol
@@mr.minebloxdaylighttwinkle442 duh, obviously.
They answered nothing in the movie.
@@Star_Strike how the hell are you suppose to move an ENTIRE CITY
The same way they did it in G4. I'm not sure how it moves exactly, but in Tanks Fpr The Memories, we learn that Cloudsdale goes around Equestria delivering winter to everypony.
But how did they mobilize Cloudsdale? I'm not even sure if it stays in one place in G4 or drifts with the wind, but it would take a significant force of Pegasi pushing to move the city into an attack position. Also just because conventional weapons like arrows and spears would pass through doesn't mean a blast like say the one Starlight used to KILL DISCORD would not utterly obliterate a fortress made of clouds.
We learn in "Tanks For The Memories" that Cloudsdale is meant to bring winter to all of Equestria. What actually motorizes it to move is unclear, but I think it's safe to assume they have a method to control where it goes.
@@Star_Strike OH, good point! They would have to move it to receive water from the reservoirs. Excellent point. The city has to be mobile somehow.
Cool invasion idea there as to how those pesky pegasi might go about it.
ok, so maybe cloudsdale was where the pegasus lived until the unity crystals split, as shown pegasus lost their flight, with no flight power they basically just became earth ponies with wings, and thus the creation of zephyr heights, i assume cloudsdale was abandoned
All it takes is one wind spell to blow them away
So the thing I think people say that Pegasus moved to the mounten of canterlot tho it doesn't suit the map don't you think ? I think canterlot is abanded or drowned one of 2 options
You're right on the mark, in the cannon comics the main 5 did go to Canterlot and it's been completely abandoned looking like the aftermath of a warzone or something the only resident being discord.
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3:02 a fix to this issue, though it technically breaks canon but hey, if were already breaking canon lets do it more. pegasi can just influence the weather, they dont actually cause seasonal change its just no one likes the in between of winter and spring, and also the sun and moon dont rly make sense being celestia and lunas, i like to think they faked it cuz why not, thus making all of g4 kindof an inworld story even tho it isnt cuz g5 is a continuation but again if theyre gonna ruin canon so will i
In the comics there going to Canterlot
The PRN (pegasai royal navy) cloudstale
Cloudsdale disobeys the laws of physics. It was a city made nearly entirely of magic. As such, it would make sense that it would just collapse out of existence if the magic was taken away.
I thought the weather and seasons were perfectly capable of happening on their own but the ponies manipulated it because, well, why not?
Do you think they told anyone in clouds Dale when they turned the magic off?
It was a dark day for the pegasi...
Hmmm. Do you think they were trying to emulate a war or is war just on minds because of the way day and age have gone?
Fallout Equestria fans laugning in Clouds Dale Encalve blocking out the sky
Canterlot was Attacked,who lived there? Twilight!I bet somebody saw twilight and made her weak so she fled
Edit:it's my theiry
If the events of the "Fallout: Equestria" fanfic take place between G4 and G5, then Cloudsdale is destroyed by Zebras balefire bomb and doesn't exist anymore. But Canterlot is destroyed too, so Zephyr Heights are located on the mountains near to Baltimare (now Maretime Bay).
Since walking on clouds was a part of Pegasus magic, when all magic disappeared they were no longer able to walk on clouds. Thus couldn’t stay is Cloudsdale. But if you rewatch the episode “Hearth’s Warming Eve” When the three pony tribes found new land, there was a mountain behind the pegasi that I thought looked like Zephyr Heights. And when the three pony tribe leaders are being frozen in ice, they each say “Earth ponies are numbskulls” “Pegasi are brutes” “Unicorns are snobs” meaning they have always had the same opinions about each other even now in G5. I think the real question we should be asking is… where are the Wendigos?
Why would they want to do this though what is the reasoning behind it
Still unclear
well if they were losing their magic to fly they were probably also losing their ability to walk on clouds and since they wouldn't have the knowledge how to make houses out of anything then of clouds it would be easier to take over a already pre-build area
Hey, so I was wondering if you could voice a character in one of my comics I made and plan to dub called (replaced?) it’s a talking train themed one just to let you know, nothing to do with thomas, just my own ideas etc. and I’d say where you can find it but for some silly reason youtube won’t let me say it but it’s the place where you post art and starts with a D and my page on it is DaylightTwinkle so I hope you know what I’m referring to, will talk more about it if you agree to it and don’t worry it’s only one line so you’re not playing a big role at the moment.
I could, but at the moment I am sick and sound awful. Idk when you are planing on getting it out by
@@Star_Strike no idea but I can either wait or get someone else.
Did you ever consider that they lose their magic slowly and that Pegasus have been able to stole their fright Magic's disappearance
I heard a theory that the water level has risen and now the new map aligns to equestrian where unicorn fields align with unicorn village, pegas city with peaks of Canterlot mountains and etc.
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also if u watch G5, episode i think called father of brilewood, we find out mistys dad is Alphabittle! EEEEEEEEEEE! Curious if maybe........ we find out sunnys mom, hitches and izzys parents, and zipp and pipp's dad.
they moved far away from Equestria
they went down to a ravine but didn't find ponyville or the friendship castle or the friend ship school?
Nice interesting theory! /)
Where can i find the image used in 3:54? Its beautiful, and i want it as a desktop background
I think I just took a screenshot of the movie in that particular scene, but I did manage to find a site that has the picture!
mamasgeeky.com/2021/09/my-little-pony-a-new-generation.html
Well we now know that Canterlot is a separate ruined city and Z Heights is a new thing built from reasons. Or maybe Cloudsdale crashed on that mountain when Twilight poofed magic out of existence and the non cloud resources were used to build Z Heights. But then if magic was lost wouldn't the clouds just dissipate raining down solid objects and Pegasi bodies all over Equestria?
We know for a FACT that when Cozy Tried to banish magic the FIRST indication was a cloud walking spell failing leaving Yona to nearly fall to her de@th.
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The Griffins destroy it that angry Griffin later hating and he's targeting when Pegasus ponies lived at new place that is Griffin's old place
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Love the end MEGA cring but funn
this is silly assuming the new people know the lore this much *cries*
I was Looking at chapter five, wich came out yesterday (9-18) im curious because in the small videos where it shows how they got their cutie marks. hitch, sunny, izzy, zipp and pipp's cutie marks just.. APEAR! so it makes me wonder with misty, in the last episode in chapter 4, misty starts to just FLOAT And get her cutie mark. im probably guessing it has something to do with her age. misty got her cutie mark as an adult.
What about the Alcorns? What did they use?
I wonder what the wonder bolts would do?
You know that in mlp next generation there was a poster of the wonder bolts
My theory is that Cloudsdale soon after losing magic fell apart and landed over Canterlot and in some way the unicorns evacuated to bridal wood because of their magic being gone and them not knowing where to go they thought it would be a smart idea to go to the crystals to seek out magic and so Cloudsdale landed there not knowing what to do they made it into zephyr heights Since the unicorns never came back after still not findings and traces of magic so after a couple of years still not finding any trace of Magic they try and return home to find all on the pegasus which made a war with them and then ending up in The pegasus winning since the still have there wings to fly because they didn’t lose there flight and since the unicorns didn’t go win they left to go to Bridlewood and there can you make just becoming a kind of like a birthmark you can say
When the police got the magic bag why did in the Pegasus got their ability to walk on clouds
also can you do a theory on the new found ability of earth pony plant growth magic
But what happened to Ponyville
Bro, I was super confused. I thought the ponies wheeled it bolt action rifles and sabers
Well, I guess what I mean by that as mean by the ponies without the wings or the horns
Yea, but seriously, what are the earth ponies going to do?
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Am i the only one that knows what star uses to make that pixel oc?
Did you rally just say "fallout equestria" as explanation for g5`s prelude?
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Thay be op lol
I banned G5 from my brain as soon as i saw that it was 3D
The whole point of g4 was to bring friendship to all of equestria and have dragons, changelings,unicorns,pegasi,earth ponies,yaks etc etc become friends and then in g5 THEY THREW AWAY THAT WHOLE CONCEPT AND DIDNT EXPLAIN AT ALL WHAT HAPPENED
It's part of the pegasis magic ro walk on clouds they would have fell through to the floor from clouds dale
You forgot about alicorns
I'm not sure how much the alicorns intervened in this conflict. They weren't mentioned in the movie, so I just left them out. I don't think there was any one side that was in the right in this conflict, so I don't think the alicorns would join any side, or fight the others. They may not even be around anymore, who knows?
But if they were to be fighting, they would use more powerful versions of Unicorn magic, moving the sun and moon into positions that would give them tactical advantages, deprive thier opponents of sleep with endless nightmares by manipulating thier dreams, and they would be able to see visions of thier opponents to learn of thier plans.
Basically, alicorns are overpowered :P
@@Star_Strike I guess you're right, my question for G5 is where the hay is discord is he in the chaos dimension or something and the most important question of all why is izzy so cute
@@Star_Strike MLP G 5 No alicorn pony
@@MoonlightGoddess69420 turns out he was in Canterlot.
Wouldn’t the Pegasi have lost the ability to walk on clouds because of a loss of magic? That’s what I always thought was the case anyways
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Can I have a video of you ranting 😂
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