The only way you could make the area realistic is to make a tunnel entrance at the end of the straight section (below camera) over all 3 lines then have the double track emerge near your tunnel portal. That would give the impression of a single line going elsewhere as it appears to go straight on and it would give you a natural profile for the hill between the lower lines and the upper lines.
Hi Andy, voice of doom here again 😮. You really know your stuff and you do a fantastic job but I question the need for a tunnel as there seems no difference between the new hillside with the cutting and the old hillside with the tunnel. Why would they go to the expense of a tunnel when a cutting would do? Rule one applies of course, it's your layout 😊 Brian
Hi Brian. Couple of things…. Your not a voice of doom, and I certainly do not know my stuff!! 😃. Seriously though, it’s just one of those areas I don’t think I’ll ever get right. All stems back to the track laying. The incline is far too close to the outer edge of the board making it difficult to get a decent cutting effect. Other than extending the board out meaning no access down that side to the windows I’ll just make do…. Although I have had a couple of thoughts on it. Hindsight eh! Take care, Andy 👍
Hi Andy. Another enjoyable video watching your layout develop. I agree with the addition of trees on the new hill, but over the tunnel area, I would leave that as it is because of the walling creating fields leading into the back scene
Hi. You've done a great job. Really looks nice. Can't wait to see the grass and trees go on. I do like your videos because you show how things are done or made. Thanks
Hi Andy. Brilliant job buddy. Looks like great stuff to cut, I call it Semtex, never remember it's name, doesn't explode though.😂 Did use polystyrene horrible stuff to cut. Hey copydex love it could get high on the smell, such a forgiving glue. Thanks for sharing buddy. Stay safe. DELPH JUNCTION (Pete)
Hi Pete, I struggle to work with polystyrene as well. I do enjoy ‘carving’ the insulation board (thankfully it’s not the wife’s best carving knife!). Take care, Andy
I got the first banking and it looks really good but the smaller one between the lines dominants the layout, you can’t see almost any of the tunnel portal, could you have not achieved same with some well positioned trees, bushes? Consider making some embankments chalky, like the railway engineers following the lay of the land to an extent like in Wolds in Yorkshire or the Downs below London you get some really steep natural forming hillsides which branch lines weaved through.
Looking great. Is the area going to be heavily wooded or manicured? Maybe add a natural spring trickling down to the side of the tracks and making a small pool of water.
Hi. I’ve used both in the layout. Paper is definitely quicker and cheaper but not quite as strong as plaster bandage. I do prefer paper but if the layout was portable then I would use plaster bandage for added strength 👍
The only way you could make the area realistic is to make a tunnel entrance at the end of the straight section (below camera) over all 3 lines then have the double track emerge near your tunnel portal. That would give the impression of a single line going elsewhere as it appears to go straight on and it would give you a natural profile for the hill between the lower lines and the upper lines.
Hi. I had a similar thought! Just filmed a quick update explaining how I wish I’d done the area differently…. Maybe something for the future 👍
Looking great it reminds me of Olive Mount Cutting, with the tunnel cut into side of cutting on the branch that going down to Liverpool Docks.
Thank you. I’ll search for some images to look at 👍
I'm thinking rock for the cutting
Yes, good thought - I’ve just watched a couple of videos where they have used rock facing. It does look effective 👍
Hi Andy, voice of doom here again 😮. You really know your stuff and you do a fantastic job but I question the need for a tunnel as there seems no difference between the new hillside with the cutting and the old hillside with the tunnel. Why would they go to the expense of a tunnel when a cutting would do? Rule one applies of course, it's your layout 😊
Brian
Hi Brian. Couple of things…. Your not a voice of doom, and I certainly do not know my stuff!! 😃. Seriously though, it’s just one of those areas I don’t think I’ll ever get right. All stems back to the track laying. The incline is far too close to the outer edge of the board making it difficult to get a decent cutting effect. Other than extending the board out meaning no access down that side to the windows I’ll just make do…. Although I have had a couple of thoughts on it. Hindsight eh! Take care, Andy 👍
Nice addition to the landscape. Brings some variation aswell. The moment you said 'I like to change this corner' I thought: TREES! 😄
Thank you. Like your thinking!! 😁👍
It could be like Hadden Hall tunnel, where the line was built into a tunnel as the wealthy landowner did not want to see a railway vrossing his land.
Yeah, good point. I remember watching a YT video about that ‘man made’ tunnel 👍
Hi Andy. Another enjoyable video watching your layout develop. I agree with the addition of trees on the new hill, but over the tunnel area, I would leave that as it is because of the walling creating fields leading into the back scene
Cheers. That’s a fair point actually 👍. Regards, Andy
I think it looks great and really adds to that tunnel mouth 👍😊
Thank you. I did wonder if it was worth doing! 👍
Hi. You've done a great job. Really looks nice. Can't wait to see the grass and trees go on. I do like your videos because you show how things are done or made. Thanks
Thank you very much. Grass and the trees are the fun part! 👍
Good work. That looks a lot better, bet you are happy with that! 🎉
Thanks very much. I’m hoping it looks better than before! 👍
The cutting looks great, I'll check out that filler too 👍🏻, Subscribed .
Thank you very much 👍
Hi just subscribed great channel and content, love the layout, keep up the great work!!
Cheers
Graeme
Thanks Graeme. Really appreciated. Regards, Andy
Hi Andy.
Brilliant job buddy.
Looks like great stuff to cut, I call it Semtex, never remember it's name, doesn't explode though.😂 Did use polystyrene horrible stuff to cut.
Hey copydex love it could get high on the smell, such a forgiving glue.
Thanks for sharing buddy.
Stay safe.
DELPH JUNCTION (Pete)
Hi Pete, I struggle to work with polystyrene as well. I do enjoy ‘carving’ the insulation board (thankfully it’s not the wife’s best carving knife!). Take care, Andy
I got the first banking and it looks really good but the smaller one between the lines dominants the layout, you can’t see almost any of the tunnel portal, could you have not achieved same with some well positioned trees, bushes? Consider making some embankments chalky, like the railway engineers following the lay of the land to an extent like in Wolds in Yorkshire or the Downs below London you get some really steep natural forming hillsides which branch lines weaved through.
Thanks. Some really good ideas there. I’m still not happy with that area but more on that another time.. 👍
Looking cool an enhances that corner and makes the track work mystic - were is it going. Well done, take care - Kevin
Thanks very much Kevin. Regards, Andy 👍
Looking great. Is the area going to be heavily wooded or manicured? Maybe add a natural spring trickling down to the side of the tracks and making a small pool of water.
Like it. I’ll see how many trees I can get hold of first and go from there 😃👍
Hi I have an area like this I put some trees to hide this sort of problem but
Hi. Trees are good for hiding mistakes! 👍
Genuine question, is paper as good as plaster cloth, asking because i am about to start modelling my own railway….
Hi. I’ve used both in the layout. Paper is definitely quicker and cheaper but not quite as strong as plaster bandage. I do prefer paper but if the layout was portable then I would use plaster bandage for added strength 👍