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- čas přidán 17. 03. 2018
- For the audio edited reposted version version, go here: • crushed trombone bell ... Please push this one over 1M views. I am close. Pass this on to every band parent, band director and student you know! This severely dented trombone bell needed more than just dent work to make the damage disappear. It is just short of an overhaul due to monetary considerations and customer wishes. It turned out great and they were very pleased.
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"I've decided this doesn't meet my standards" Something only a professional would say, love it.
I actually am in a class for instrument repair and my teacher wanted us to find videos on trombone repair and I’m looking at this video I think this is a good one
After seeing the extent of the damage at the beginning, I just wish you'd had some video or picture of the owner's face when they got their instrument back. I know how I would have felt...
Great restoration!!!
Yeah, I'd be like "Where the hell is the trombone I brought in?"
I would find the dude who demolished it and crush his head like the bell
At first glance, it looked like the sorting hat.
Never thought this could be repaired
Harry Potter lol
BrokenLampDoesThings , how the hell does that even happen to a trombone bell
@@zakhoover9946 Marching band
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I'm not a musician, know very little about instruments, and just dedicated 20 minutes watching this video. It was fascinating to see what this gentleman could do.
Truly a work of art; nothing like a perfectionist!
After playing Jazz for more than 30 years, I can't imagine how such a damage could had happened .
After being in a high school marching band for 6 years and being a chaperone for my 2 sons for 6 years in the same band then continuing to play for the Univ. of Pittsburgh band, all of us playing brass, I'm thinking it was a full crash into something like concrete and the slide didn't make it.
But its odd that you don't see any scratches from the impact. Its like it hit something head on with the slide in place.
He probably fell on it while marching. Hitting the soft ground, therefore there's no scratches
Almost looks like he fell and probably tried to stop himself while holding the instrument and putting his body weight onto it
Easy - just fell it on the floor. My schoolmate just hit the piano where was my trumpet on the top cover. So, damages were looks similar.
When I saw the damage I immediately thought that was something I would have done as a kid :P
I'm a musical instrument repairman in Japan.
This video is very learning.
私はインストゥルメントの修理士になりたいと思っています。給料は良いですし、仕事はどれくらい難しいですか？ごめんなさい、私の日本語は悪いです。ありがとう
@@isetta4083 Thank you for writing in Japanese,your Japanese is very easy to understand.
Unfortunately the salary is cheap in Japan,and difficult works.
You need professional knowledge and dexterity, compassion.
But it's very fun.I'll support your dreams,good luck!
@@isetta4083
Postscript
I feel the most necessary thing is experience and strength. lol
Thank you very much.
@@jimflys2 I hope your success.
Fantastic repair! Seeing the GETZEN brand name reminded me of Doc Severinsen who played GETZEN trumpets a couple of different times during his career. Many years before his gig with the Tonight Show band Severinsen came to our high school and performed with our band. He was not only a great professional trumpeter but one heck of a nice guy. He’s 92 years old now and I wish him well.
Musical instruments are made to live and to sing. Seeing one come back to life and see another day like this one did is very rewarding. Excellent work.
How does one do that type of damage to a bell I cringe at the smallest micro dent to my tuning slide
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Well I actually passed out and fell onto my trombone
The first bone I was issued at my first duty station in the Marines had been repaired from some serious damage. If you've ever seen a Marine Corps field band as opposed to the President's Own, we have what is called "snap and pop." We subjected those poor instruments to some serious stress by moving them quickly and stopping them suddenly. The band was on a march in a civilian parade and the guy who had my bone before me brought the horn up to play it and it was the last straw for the tubing on the bell side near the connection with the slide. That entire half of the horn broke off and went sailing end over end back into the rest of the band (trombones are front rank on military bands). The destroyed bell was retrieved, restored, reconnected, and issued to me when I arrived at the duty station. The only indication that anything amiss had happened was there was a band of slightly thicker brass as a patch where it had been welded back together. Fortunately, I didn't play it for long. They were able to replace our aging trombones with new, beefier Bach Strads with F attachments about a year later. It was nice to have horns that not only sounded great, but looked the same down the line.
Alexander Fratello| a girl in my grade pushed me on the concrete, making me drop my trumpet. Denting it and crushing it. I cried that night.
The T-bone fell down the stairs...yeah that's what happened .
Real old world style craftsmanship done with hand work and basic tools. A joy to watch and learn from. Thank you sir!
Thanks. I wish my camera picked up things better. Maybe I need an i phone.
jimflys2 If a good camera is your requirements, there are very good non-fruit alternatives. Great work; inspiring.
@@jimflys2 hello it's kinda late but you look like the person who I got my first trombone from in San Antonio.
When people complain about why repairs are so costly, this is an ideal video to show them the kind of effort that goes into a repair. This was not an easy repair and in the end it came out looking fantastic.
When you put the electrical tape on it I thought "Oh, thats where he will cut away the damaged part". I'm in awe of the skill shown to straighten that out.
True, pure craftsmanship.
Seems everthing today is just replace, sad. A dying art. I love what this master craftsman just did. As a trombone player, I've seen this damage and worse, but luckily not on mine.
Jim, I've only been repairing instruments for a couple years and found your video very educational. I appreciate it.
Thank you. I appreciate that very much. It's been a good career choice for me 31 years this month.
That was a miraculous trip back from the edge of a trash bin. This is one of those situations that requires a craftsman, rather than a machine. I struggled for three years in school with a trombone, before I convinced my parents that I had no talent with music. Fortunately this person must have been overjoyed to get the new trombone back. Great work.
Thank you very much Robert.
Beautiful, patient work!! Amazing to watch.
Wish everybody had the same level of standard and sense of pride in their work. Very nice!
Thank God for the instrument Doctors. This would be a horrible world without you guys
What a transformation. Fantastic.
True artisan. To know when you can do better and start again takes a commitment that few people have today. Thank you for such a beautiful display of craftsmanship. Keep up the great work!
....WOW!!!! I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU ARE SO WILLING TO SHARE THE METICULOUS PROCESS WITH US!!! SO MANY PEOPLE DO NOT FULLY APPRECIATE EXPERT CRAFTSMANSHIP!!!! I'LL BET THAT MUCH OF YOUR WORK INVOLVES YOUR GOOD "SENSE OF TOUCH", A "GOOD EYE", AND "FEEL" FOR THE SUBTLE PROGRESSION OF RESHAPING THE METAL! => THANKS FOR SHARING THIS!!!
What i found interesting is that you can actually feel the brass stretching out in your hands it is so pliable ..lots of patience needed...
I am a novice coppersmith, I learn a lot from watching all these videos on how to repair wind instruments, I do use some of the techniques shown in removing kinks/warps/damages to brass and apply them for copper, for example the SS solid rod mandrel you used to remove the creases or the use paraffin /wax before rubbing against a dent hammer, the marker trick etc. all could be applied on copper . thank you for making this sort of videos and keep it up.
Exactly right. I do get some pure copper bells to work on with some horns.
I have to be honest. Looking at that extensive damage I thought there was no way you could repair that! You are not only a craftsmen, but an artist as well. Thank you for such attention to detail & the pride you show with your work.
you sir are a true craftsman , unbeliveable how you got that crumpled mess back to that fantastic smooth perfect finish
HOLY COW, THAT WAS AMAZING REPAIR YOUR GIFTED DUDE , I PLANING ON BUY MY FIRST TRUMBONE NOW I KNOW IF I DROP MY TROMBONE IT COULD BE FIX!!
Wow, true craftmanship. TLC excelled. Beautiful work sir!
Absolutely amazing work.
From a crazy wizard hat to an art piece. Incredible.
Honestly I like how some instruments look without lacquer, I feel like it adds character
I like it to, but the raw brass does not go well with oxygen
choice of gloves or green hands
Magic watching the creases disappear before my eyes. Great videos Jim. Great work!
Fantastic video!
Something about watching the restoration of damaged instruments is sooooo satisfying!
Yes, a machine made to induce happiness and contentment, near death, but brought back to life to sing again.
That looks so satisfying. I'm thinking of going to go out and buying beat up instruments just to try to get that level of satisfaction.
Yes, it is such an incredible accomplishment to take a sad brass instrument and bring it back to life.
It'll take 15 years to learn the trade! Not an easy job!
When using paint stripper, wrap the panel/bell/whatever, with clingwrap, something about the lack of oxygen helps the paint stripper work better, common practice in automotive paint shops
Cool idea. Thanks.
thanks for this. It's a pleasure to see your work.
Wow! That's crazy good work. Thanks sincerely for making this video for us!
I started in band as a fifth grader with an old second hand Blessing coronet. It had a huge dent in the bell, and I was always ashamed of it. The other kids all had new Conn instruments.
In seventh grade. I switched to a beautiful new Besson tuba! I loved playing this instrument!
you know it's a super specialized skill when it looks like he did nothing besides random or intuitive movements and suddenly *poof* it's restored
good work there i was working at bathroom fittings factory - brass all day and silver soldering = degreaser vapor unit = nearly killed my lungs with soldering fumes also ! good video and thank you !
Eeeeh! Yeah silver solder, especially the old stuff with cadmium in it needs really good ventilation. I do some silver soldering, but not too much. Mostly 50/50 lead tin. That can be a problem, but I have pretty large space and it's just hitting a spot here and there, not all day. Vapor degreaser with Trichlor or similar is nasty. The Blessing factory in Elkhart Indiana - I toured it years ago. The first thing I smelled when I walked in the front door was vapors from that degreaser. You never forget that scent.
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@@jimflys2 A high school friend's first job was working at a solvent tank. The fumes overcame him and he died before the summer was over. Please be careful. (RIP Brian Haile, 1955-1974).
Great advise on annealing. Well worth taking the time to do that as needed..
Awesome skillz and work ethic. I am a trombone player. I really enjoyed watching you restore that horrible dented bell. What you did will cause people to ship their instruments to you! You treated that horn as if it were your own. Thanks.
Beautifull work! It looked like piece of wadded up paper before. I would never be able to tell how badly it was mistreated. It should get years of useful life now.
"I've done all this work to fix it... and the paint job doesn't meet my standards... lets strip it all off and do it right"
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You work with magic in between the camera takes.... totally amazing!!!!!!
Quite interesting to watch your repair work and attention to detail. Thanks!
Nice work ✅❤️👍
も、戻るんだ……
ポムポムプリン I only wish I could read this ☹️
how did you get here?
@@larryreno8293 me too but i can't read it 😞
正直にいうと、もうこりゃだめだわと思った。戻るんだね。
Fantastic work!
I had my dented saxophone bell repaired when I was a kid. It came out looking brand new. I always wondered how it was done. I fear there may come a day when there are no more master craftsmen like this man. I hope not.
The wrinkle happened to me..Stretching it out a little too firm l put a crease on the other side...It was an"Oh Shit" moment...Luckily it was my own horn(A coronet)...So i basically started from square one...You do amazing work...and make it look so easy...I found for me it was a slow.. gentle but firm process..My horn is still not perfect but was an interesting process..Thankyou for your demonstration..
Thanks so much!
Strange! A coronet is normally worn on the head!
excuuuuse me!
I played trombone for a number of years in school. Found this interesting
I'm fascinated watching you repair these instruments.
Just nice to see craftsmanship in action, good job!
Dude, that ain't no dent that's a frickin meteorite crater.
My science teacher once pulled a "this one time at band camp" followed a story of how a trombone player fell on their trimbome
just amazing -- We are seeing a lot more than just skill here. The desire to achieve outstanding quality is rare these days.
You are a master Sir! Amazing !
At first, I thought that trombone bell was going to tell me I belonged to Ravenclaw
matt b Yooooo😂😂😂😂
I’m pretty sure someone ran this trombone with one of those big construction trucks that’s transport boulders and are like 60 feet tall
Art & Science, plus years of experience = AWESOME RESULT. Congrats.
Awesome craft you have, please teach the up and coming repair techs as best you can. Thank you.
持ち主安心するだろうね…こんなに綺麗になって帰ってきて
I’m guessing that there’s only a handful of people in the world that can do this.
Why would you guess that
TLTitus God told me.
a few thousand according to people in the industry.
Amazing work!
Incredible work.
I love watching talented people work, but the music was so loud I couldn't hear the dialog. No music needed, just nice work and so talented.
Sorry. The next video I will keep this in mind for sure! May be a while, since I am really busy right now and little time to deal with camera work.
The music was also super dramatic for what was being done. :)
After seeing this get fixed, I take that back. It wasn't dramatic enough :D
I kind of thought so as well. Thanks.
some stupid people will tell you turn down your volume they dont realize how anoying the hard sound is
Say, that was pretty informative, and the end result was astonishing considering the crump. I especially liked your unwillingness to accept something below your standard. Let me ask you though: why weren't you working the metal while it was still hot from annealing to get the benefit of its added flexibility while warm and why were you quenching it with a water spray? Wouldn't that tend to make the metal more brittle just before your working it? I work a lot of mild and tool steel and am envious of your skill with brass.
Brass and copper work harden and the quench is actually part of the annealing process to make it more flexible. Its just part of the material properties.
This was my same question a few years back until I learned the unique properties of brass.. it hardens as you work it.
As a former jeweller working with precious metals I can tell you that the same goes for Platinum, Palladium, Gold and Silver, it hardens as you work it and goes soft and malleable when annealed and quenched. You can repeat this process over and over.
Great work sir! As one metal " basher" to another ... Laquer-- when doing model locomotives i have found that after putting on the lining I spray with thinners to "melt" the paints into a smooth surface.
Beautiful!
the video made the trombone bell look like a plastic bell xD
すごい！
Truly an impressive repair. And so beautiful to see how things get a second life. Thank you for sharing.
Remarkable repair. Thanks for posting.
My question is what was the value of the horn? Verses the value of your services. Was it one of those things money did not matter verses the sentimental value placed on the horn?
The instrument was loaned and needed to be returned to as good or better condition. A new bell assembly would have cost more than twice the amount of repair. A similar used horn was not an option as it had sentimental value and the owner would not have been pleased. The owner came in unexpectedly after the repair was done on a separate errand and was so pleased that the felt it looked better than when it was loaned out. Everyone was happy and the cost was reasonable considering I did not have to buff to a brand new finish as indicated in the video. Win, win for everyone.
thank you
That’s a bit more than a “dent”, chief
Amazing to watch a skilled craftsman use his skill. Fantastic job.
Wow !!! I didn't know that the torch and the rest of Your process could be used to restore shaped soft metals like You have been blessed to do. Great Work !!! Most Impressive !!! My sons trumpet has some much smaller dents on the bell. Thank You Very much for posting. I'll let You know when I try it.
最初何塗ったんだろう、、、
ラッカーの剥離剤だと思います。ラッカーは熱処理の時邪魔になりますから。
どうやって使ったらあんな曲がり方するんだろう…笑
たまにこんなのが来ますが、階段から落としてしまったり、貧血で倒れてしまったりがあります
不慮の事故です
base metals are different than steel .. quenching make them actually softer and flexible .
I don't have much experience with brass but i know for sure that copper when quenched will get the softest state .
I'm goldsmith and wee never hammer alloyed gold when glowing hot ..that's when is mushy and brittle and will fall in to powder under blow when you try to hammer it or do forming .
When cold you can roll or hammer . when you reach the limit in compacting molecules you have to annealed it .
Is ready again for further forming .
I guess bras is sort of similar in respond to mechanical and heat treatment .
サムネイル見て発狂してしまいました…。
@@ponsaemon exactly
本当ですね。この動画見たら楽器を大切にしなければ、と強く思いました。
Fantastic work.
You are a bloody artist! What a fantastic job!
I think the guy who bought it was probably not a trombone player maby he was doing a show called will it dent
The Music Kid or he was one of those instrument smashers.😡
KC9UDX lo fucking l lmao
He said it was dented during a show practice which means marching band practice. There are some complicated moves to where you can fall down and severely dent your trombone. I have a move like that but instead of my trombone my wrist got it :/
A move like a hip shift from a slide could easily throw you off balance if you dont step correctly
@@spiritfire7083 Wonder how the band dirctor reacted or the drummajor because my head would be on a spiked wall.
how much would you charge to lacquer a trumpet🤔
250$
I like the fact that they saved a Getzen. Nice!
You are a true artist!
I love it when a true craftsman doesn’t compromise his high standards, by cutting corners to safe time. Beautiful job on this piece, but I’m most impressed with you stripping the entire bell, because it wasn’t perfect.
トロンボーンやってた身としてどう管理したらあんなになるのかが正直理解できないし管理できない人は吹くべきではないと思ってしまった楽器がかわいそう
さんまみ
修理に出してるから不慮の事故なんだとは思うけど笑
それにしてもひどいですよね
事故もあると思うけどごく稀にあるのは飛行機で運搬するときに海外の空港スタッフって荷物を投げるからコンテナに当たって凹むとかあるみたいです。
実際私が高校生の部活で先輩が海外へ部活の演奏旅行へ行った時チューバを投げられてベルが潰れたと聞きました。
海外にいくとき、空港では荷物を何のためらいもなく投げてたりします。ハードケースごとつぶれる・・・なんて恐ろしい話もたまに聞きますよ。
4:13 it looks like it's ready to tell you that you belong in Gryffindor. ;)
Pete Brown why not ravenclaw?
@@hiraethia8419 Because Ravenclaw is almost as unappealing as Hufflepuff
@@salt_4_salt348 sorry ravenclaws are some of the most successful wizards
Hufflepuffs aren't weak
Hufflepuffs are just weak background characters
Beautiful job. Thanks for sharing.
Great video, thanks for sharing your sizable expertise and experience.
あ、結構力任せなのね笑
MUSIC IS TOO LOUD!
Beautiful work. You're a true craftsman.
Awesome video and awesome work. Facinating!
Turn the music down when you're talking.
Or put no music at all. The little noises you make while fixing things are an essential part of those videos. Also don't cut or speed up anything.
yes please, second song not so bad but first was way too loud. But love the content.
Read the description. It seems this uploader saw your bitching coming.
Dump the music and it would be good to watch.
I am a drummer and when I first saw the damage to the bell it really upset me that someone could let that happen to a borrowed instrument. Wonderful repair job!
Amazing work!!
Who the crap ran into a wall while playing, was it hillary?
Huh? Fail to see a relevance, even as a joke . . . 😦
To call that a dent would be the understatement of the century.
Skills. A pleasure to watch.
Very impressed by the work. It is art!