THE BIG QUESTION: Should Resident Evil 6 Be Remade?

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  • čas přidán 11. 05. 2024
  • Arguably the most derided of any horror game ever, Resident Evil 6’s failings are numerous: it’s departure from creeping survival horror to gun-happy action adventure, it’s convoluted plot supplanted by complex, interwoven campaigns, it’s finicky cover system and mediocre gunplay, and it’s annoying overreliance on quick time events (a video game trope that was already falling out of favor by the time the game released in 2012).
    What this video aims to point out though is that Resident Evil 6 does possess a handful of redeeming features and discusses whether these aspects are enough to craft a remake, or whether Resident Evil 6 should be left on the cutting room floor.
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Komentáře • 222

  • @Someguy_97
    @Someguy_97 Před měsícem +50

    There’s a clear difference between remake and reimagining. RE 6 needs a reimagining!

    • @160sharp
      @160sharp Před měsícem

      Agreed thats what mskes the re engine games so great, familiar yet different for old and new comers

    • @brendanmccreesh5112
      @brendanmccreesh5112 Před měsícem

      Agreed

    • @Handofciel
      @Handofciel Před 16 dny

      Re6 is gonna be big bc theres 6 campaigns in total, sherry birkin with Jake muller I just want to see the water in Chris's campaign

  • @Jordan1000
    @Jordan1000 Před měsícem +22

    I’m know I’m in the minority, but I really emjoyed RE6

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 Před měsícem +9

      Same. It was peak RE for me.

    • @jub8891
      @jub8891 Před měsícem +9

      it was great.. re4 also got a lot of criticism by "purists" when it first came out but its now one of the most iconic games in the whole franchise.. go figure

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 Před měsícem +2

      @@jub8891 Well, people hate change. I don't hate that kind of change, but I hate when you take something that was good before and remake that very same thing to something less good. If I wanna replay RE4 in the future I'll be left with 2 options: Do I want better gameplay and graphics? Or do I want better story and personalities?

  • @savage.sadistic.sensationa1184
    @savage.sadistic.sensationa1184 Před měsícem +45

    Why don't just focus on code veronica remake first !!!??? 😢

    • @jegjrtp87
      @jegjrtp87 Před měsícem +3

      I'm really hoping they are and just not saying anything about it

    • @mattmas6628
      @mattmas6628 Před měsícem

      Code Veronica isn’t gonna happen, not enough name recognition outside hardcore fans

    • @raidengoodman8754
      @raidengoodman8754 Před měsícem +1

      @@mattmas6628not catering to the hardcore fans is how we got RE6 in the first place

    • @JokersDisciple
      @JokersDisciple Před měsícem +1

      ​@@raidengoodman8754
      You have the most correct comment on this thread.

    • @simplysinclair3626
      @simplysinclair3626 Před měsícem +1

      I've been asking for this exact thing for yearsssss now!

  • @ffdgasfdasgjdfgf
    @ffdgasfdasgjdfgf Před měsícem +7

    i for one always liked res6 , lots of character with theyre own storyline (even if some of them felt very flat ) and gameplay felt smooth with the dodging . It definitely had its faults but i dont believe it deserves the hate its getting :(

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka Před měsícem +21

    I personally want a resident evil code Veronica remake way more than a resident evil 6 remake in my opinion.

  • @toukirhossain1683
    @toukirhossain1683 Před měsícem +5

    Of course it needs a remake

  • @Johnny_the_5
    @Johnny_the_5 Před měsícem +5

    Yes. I would love a new RE6

  • @brenton3796
    @brenton3796 Před měsícem +3

    Yes a remake of RE6 and RE5 and ORC would be heaven, also I don’t mind sherry and Jake’s campaign, I could imagine a remake being a way to fix that game

    • @Merceralex77
      @Merceralex77 Před 23 dny

      That campaign would be great if Ustanak really worked as Nemesis and followed you EVERYWHERE. The interactions between Jake and Cherry is gold, also is good for RE to have new faces tied to the main characters of the first games, the new generation

  • @ExcelHedge
    @ExcelHedge Před měsícem +2

    RE6 is great. It doesn't need a remake. And those changes you asked for wouldn't be RE6

  • @mr.sinjin-smyth
    @mr.sinjin-smyth Před měsícem +9

    Yes, but it's too early to consider for it as of now. Wait at least another 7 years before it's finally time to give it a go. I've said several times before that EVERY mainline Resident Evil game before RE7 needs to get the RE Engine remake treatment.

  • @NMbones98
    @NMbones98 Před měsícem +4

    I wouldn't mind

  • @jahmalismail7147
    @jahmalismail7147 Před měsícem +1

    As a defender of RE6 I definitely think it should get a remake/reboot/reimagining, whatever you wanna call it. But I also think 9, and remakes of 1, CV, and 5 should DEFINITELY come first. Maybe even an Outbreak remake or Revelations 3 as well. Let 6 sit as is until its 18-20 years old

  • @saga2964
    @saga2964 Před měsícem +3

    Ummm, YES?
    BUT...please make it congruent with the character arc they have recreated so beautifully with the RE2R and RE4R.
    Use Nick Apostolides for voice and the remake's Leon visual model (aged up appropriately of course). Note: keep remake Ada's visual model but get a diffr voice actor (try to get Jolene back!!!).
    By simplifying the campaigns and action-to-horror ratio, it could be the amazing remake we desperately need!

  • @umziwoxolodlodlo285
    @umziwoxolodlodlo285 Před měsícem +3

    RE6 should get a FF14 treatment. I wouldn't mind an "A Realm Reborn" type of remake. Either a similar story but told in a more RE fashion, or a directly new retelling of the events without the over-the -top action.

    • @bounceycake1
      @bounceycake1 Před měsícem

      Lol yeah just don't make it as boring as ARR. I couldn't wait to get to HW tbh

  • @DalazG
    @DalazG Před měsícem +2

    Absolutely! RE6 needs the remake treatment more than any other! Even an awesome opportunity to give some background lore to re7
    The story can't just be tweaked like RE5 though. It needs a full overhaul to the story. There isn't much that really needs to be kept.
    I dont think it'll be a typical remake though. It'll probably cost more to produce than it did for re4 and 5.

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 Před měsícem +2

      Nothing wrong with the story bro.

  • @Matthew_Satisfaction
    @Matthew_Satisfaction Před měsícem +7

    Yeah, it was pretty horrible if u ask me. They removed everything that was good about resident evil 4 & 5, but I guess it was trying something new, I’m all about that it just didn’t work for me in this instance

    • @itzdcx7991
      @itzdcx7991 Před měsícem +3

      Well no one asked you...The gameplay was fun it had the best combat and movement mechanics In the franchise. The only issue it had was the story because it was honestly horrible and somewhat nonsensically cliche.

    • @OscarG787
      @OscarG787 Před měsícem +3

      Leon’s was the only good campaign compared to the other two.

    • @jackjax7921
      @jackjax7921 Před měsícem +1

      Skill issue.

    • @PikaLink91
      @PikaLink91 Před měsícem +3

      On the contrary 6 was everything great about 4 and 5 cranked up to 11.

    • @supermonkeyboy38
      @supermonkeyboy38 Před měsícem

      @@OscarG787 Not true at all, in my opinion Leon had one of the worst campaigns in the game. Id put Jake & Sherry's at 1st, Chris & Piers at 2nd, Leon & Helena's and Ada's at last. Ada's was genuinely terrible.

  • @mrddorsey19
    @mrddorsey19 Před měsícem +1

    I really wanted to love re6 as much as i love the rest. Heck, remake it without the quick time events and I'd buy two copies. The overdose of quick time events really turned me off.

    • @pretenderxxx2385
      @pretenderxxx2385 Před měsícem

      There is absolutely nothing wrong with quick time Events. I declare that Most of you are Just parroting

  • @AlbertPuljos
    @AlbertPuljos Před měsícem +1

    It definitely need a remake considering resident evil 6 has the best story in the whole series, as it brings chris and Leon together for the first time, and even ada is here sherry...wesker has a son, plus for those of you who played resident evil 7 and 8, we know theres connections in eastern europe, about Wesker, Spencer, miranda, and being that jake was found over there..

  • @olaoyeisikalu2686
    @olaoyeisikalu2686 Před měsícem +1

    RE6 is the resident evil that needs a remake the most

  • @jub8891
    @jub8891 Před měsícem +1

    it doesnt need a remake, its perfect as is.. but it would be great if it did and i would want to try it out

  • @videogames4life475
    @videogames4life475 Před měsícem +1

    If Capcom does anything with RE6 it'll receive a reimagining just like RE2, RE3, and RE4 did.

  • @biracial.prodigy488
    @biracial.prodigy488 Před měsícem +2

    I stand by RE6 it was a great game 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽 ❤❤

  • @jamalcarrillo
    @jamalcarrillo Před měsícem +1

    I want the remake for 6 .. matter fact remake/ reimaging all the games 🎮

  • @jackjax7921
    @jackjax7921 Před měsícem +1

    Why not?They pull off Re 4 Remake. Re 6 Remake would be godlike if done right. It needs Re 4 Remake pacing and level design and exploration. Keep the same controls and mechanics.

  • @osricen
    @osricen Před 18 dny

    Jake and Sherry would have to be completely gone. RE6 had a very competent story with Leon and Chris, with Ada in the middle of everything. The current blueprint could make a brilliant End of Times RE story with a lot of drama, mystery and revelations.
    A little rewriting, re-characterizing (Simmons), and reimagining the whole thing as something way more believable and BOOM... a RE6 at the height of the current remakes and Village.
    Would love to see the horror-action with Leon and action-horror with Chris... and the spy flavored part (with the remaining answers) with Ada.
    SPOILER ALERT: At the end of Chris' campaign, we could see the ones who will become the Wolves.

  • @jakejeso4099
    @jakejeso4099 Před měsícem +9

    The better idea to make re 5 and out break remake first

  • @KadeemG61
    @KadeemG61 Před měsícem +1

    If they remake and reimagined Resident Evil 6 and remove the bloated action sequences, I’m all for it. But still, I don’t see a remake of RE6 happening fans were divided with 5 and 6.

  • @lesstalkingmoregaming
    @lesstalkingmoregaming Před měsícem +1

    Of course! Remake of a great game is good, but to remake and improve it, its what a REMAKE should BE about! It is the chance to mend past errors. Like remaking last GOT season?? Amyone? 😁

  • @andrewfradley7876
    @andrewfradley7876 Před 29 dny

    Eventually, sure. It’s just not a priority for me right now. I want to see all of RE0, RE1, RE5, and particularly CVX in the current engine first. Even the latter seems like it might take a while.

  • @trinity-hopetricia3241
    @trinity-hopetricia3241 Před měsícem +2

    Resident Evil 6 Remake Please God Please 🏆🐐🎯🙏❤️

  • @mojewjewjew4420
    @mojewjewjew4420 Před měsícem +1

    If they dont F Up the story or anything controversially then why not, they dont seem capable to do anything than remakes.

  • @trevorrasbury5903
    @trevorrasbury5903 Před měsícem

    Re6 NEEDS a remake, or reimagining. The story needs so much work. Here’s my proposal… keep the quad campaigns. But replace Helena with Clair red field and replace piers with either player character from resident evil 0, sheeva or Jill. Keep Jake, but severely change and overhaul his design/personality. Make Leon’s story focus on the small town/ catacombs resident evil style settings. Make Chris’s focus on the bigger picture with bioterrorism instead of chasing Carla, matter of fact take Carla and Simmons out of the game or change them entirely. Ada Wongs story could work as her being pursued by the bsaa for her multiple crimes across the re universe, instead of having her be confused for Carla. Jake’s story can be pretty much the same, he’s the only one with the cure and neo wants him dead. I actually dig the healing factor sherry has, but I wanna see it used in gameplay, and put more depth into it. Ustanak would be terrifying if they made him act like a Mr X from remake2 on steroids. Anyways they’d have to restructure literally everything about the game as far as how and why the characters do what they do, to keep from having the stupid motorcycle chase or underwater qte shark fight. But with enough effort, it can definitely happen.

  • @quickwave4970
    @quickwave4970 Před měsícem

    I'd say remake code Veronica then sometime later resident 5 first. When it comes to Resident 6, I'd say make the time frame a bit more longer between each campaign, also increase the action but dial back on fighting back with puches and kicks (kinda like Leon during re4 and Chris during re5), no major fighting the tyrant with puches and kicks like that.

  • @jahblo666
    @jahblo666 Před měsícem +12

    No, Dino Crisis pls Capcom!

  • @dustinhooper2260
    @dustinhooper2260 Před měsícem

    Res 3 remake was fine. It was nice to get a quick paced action packed entry. And if you follow sales numbers Res 6 has sold over 11 million copies, being beaten only by Res 5. And still has players to this day. It should have some things cut out, but overall just an overhaul on the same foundations would be a great game. It shouldn’t be whittled into something completely different or have the campaigns cut out. I’d buy it if they just did a visual upgrade with some gameplay tweaks as well.

  • @Thepapperman
    @Thepapperman Před měsícem +1

    Fans be hating this was one of the best besides 7 this gave had the dive technique the melee attacks they only thing I didn't like was when the stages shake and they do that weird animation other than that that was one of the best

  • @9cyph
    @9cyph Před měsícem

    I think you can do it, but I think they should do a Resident Evil Origins Remake of 0&1, do a Code Veronica Remake, then do a RE5 Remake, and THEN finish with a RE6 Remake, which puts us about 8 years out from now if you figure RE9 is coming out Next year in 2025, and RE Origins 0&1 or Code Veronica would be 2026, then putting out the other Remakes every other year for 2028, 2030 and then 2032 for RE6. I don't see why people had such a problem with Co-Op, it can be done well. Personally I loved it in RE5 🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @DonHewlett3
    @DonHewlett3 Před měsícem

    It could actually be good if some of it was toned down and less Michael Bay movie and maybe instead of 4 separate campaigns it's one cohesive campaign that jumps from character to character in chronological order.

  • @Merceralex77
    @Merceralex77 Před 23 dny

    Yes. Has a great story, great interaction between characters and has the best gameplay mechanics I've seen in any shooter

  • @dremoore54
    @dremoore54 Před měsícem

    If it happens co-op like RE4 remake with Luis. But they need to remake Code Veronica instead

  • @Hadeshi.
    @Hadeshi. Před měsícem

    I liked RE6, the story was weird, but the gameplay was fun, and playing co-op was even better, i bought a PS3 back in 2012 just to play this. 😋
    The Mercenaries Mode is one of the best too.

  • @D4NT317
    @D4NT317 Před měsícem +2

    It should have never existed. It's nothing like any of the other games. It's boring and kills the fun. I remember only trying to finish the campaigns ASAP since there was nothing else to do. Ergo, I think they should delete it from the mainline and treat it as something that might have been if something had gone wrong. Just pretend it didn't happen. If. however, they really want to remake it, they need to change the entirety of the game 100%.

  • @Hazel_Eyed_Angel
    @Hazel_Eyed_Angel Před měsícem +2

    Do code Veronica!!! First stop it... Your Welcome

  • @Tonysdh47
    @Tonysdh47 Před měsícem +4

    Love the og 6 so I don't want them to fuck it up

  • @zagariasbooysen7401
    @zagariasbooysen7401 Před měsícem

    Never Played RE 6 even if i did buy it. I could never finish RE 5 so i just gave up on those 2 games! Maybe both needs a remake! I did finish RE 3 and 4 Remake!! Loved both a lot more then 5 ever!!

  • @emoronez
    @emoronez Před měsícem +2

    nope. Resident Evil Code Veronica instead

  • @GhostGamer799
    @GhostGamer799 Před měsícem +1

    I think re6 will be a big remake because of the other characters story i want it to be scary feel of desperate have a good laugh comedy and sad parts

  • @CrunchyKieran15
    @CrunchyKieran15 Před měsícem

    Not even a bad game, just a bit much going on at times, for the style they were going for, campy action horror it was great

  • @ryuuotaku35
    @ryuuotaku35 Před měsícem

    It needs a Major Overhaul. I didn’t like the controls and combat and it was very rough in some areas.
    But the story was great

    • @Lilhajxjk274
      @Lilhajxjk274 Před měsícem +1

      Re6 literally had the most smooth and complex combat in all of re. And the best controls

  • @Alexp37
    @Alexp37 Před měsícem +1

    Yes.

  • @gervasiosgerva
    @gervasiosgerva Před měsícem

    Yes, it should and with a VR mode.

  • @Mythpathz
    @Mythpathz Před měsícem +4

    If they remake 6 than they should focus more into horror plus jump scares and action should be balanced like Village and 7

    • @Lilhajxjk274
      @Lilhajxjk274 Před měsícem

      No they shouldn't. The context of the story doesnt allow re6 to be horror. Why would chris, ada and leon be scared when they have 15 years of experience? The game has to be a action game and its perfect that way.

  • @rxpacman1893
    @rxpacman1893 Před měsícem

    got a better idea, remake RE1 and make it clunky like tarkov

  • @vanguardluard8334
    @vanguardluard8334 Před měsícem

    I think a RE 5 remake would more likely to comes before RE6 remake

  • @richarda2248
    @richarda2248 Před měsícem

    Delete the “escape the BOW” part and I’m in…..

  • @Virgil200
    @Virgil200 Před měsícem

    We need the RE5 remake first

  • @PHBlueLunchmeat
    @PHBlueLunchmeat Před měsícem

    Idc i need it my girl and i played most of the series i need them to remake RE1

  • @nesseihtgnay9419
    @nesseihtgnay9419 Před měsícem

    Let's see if resident evil 5 remake is good first

  • @Forget1987
    @Forget1987 Před měsícem

    I did play hours of co op with people it was a good action game

  • @lucifermorningstar2505
    @lucifermorningstar2505 Před měsícem

    They did lots of fat trimming on re3 remake do they can make re6 better

  • @betsubagacafe3632
    @betsubagacafe3632 Před měsícem +1

    Should

  • @greenbow7888
    @greenbow7888 Před měsícem +1

    I quite liked RE6.

  • @_n8thagr8_63
    @_n8thagr8_63 Před měsícem

    I want an RE 0 remake, and just take out the stupid grappling hook. You've instantly made the game like 30% better

  • @SeFu2006
    @SeFu2006 Před měsícem +2

    YES lol

  • @richlacerra6668
    @richlacerra6668 Před měsícem

    I disagree about resident evil village walking the line between action and horror effectively. Resident evil is at its best when it’s full blown survival horror ie re2 remake and re7

  • @mcy12688
    @mcy12688 Před měsícem

    No. Everything should be remade that involves wesker and end the remake timeline at his death in 5

  • @marlonbonnici
    @marlonbonnici Před měsícem

    Co op shouldn't be in any horror game at all. It kills any sense of tension.

  • @iamme4494
    @iamme4494 Před měsícem

    Capcom needs to remake RE5 with the original story with Chris shooting Africans and I mean Black Africans not the multicolored ones

    • @DalazG
      @DalazG Před měsícem +1

      I think that's probably the biggest problem for the RE5 remake in 2024. It was a struggle to do when it released but in. An age of my sweet baby, i think it'll be even more altered thresh the original

  • @angryfisherman1896
    @angryfisherman1896 Před 13 dny

    I need more zombies

  • @shatterpointgaming215
    @shatterpointgaming215 Před měsícem

    Right after 5.

  • @anasabbas4372
    @anasabbas4372 Před měsícem

    Yesss!

  • @lancealex382
    @lancealex382 Před měsícem +3

    No no no. Veronica should be the default next remake

  • @jordy_indo45
    @jordy_indo45 Před 22 dny

    After re0 re1 re code v = THE NEXT RE5 REMAKE AND RE6 REMAKE DONE 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @HotSizzleTV_
    @HotSizzleTV_ Před měsícem

    Yes it should

  • @HardlyQuinn
    @HardlyQuinn Před měsícem +1

    No. Neither should any of the others have been. Its lazy and pointless. Remake flawed games not great games that don't need changing.

  • @TheMarine316
    @TheMarine316 Před měsícem +2

    The only way resident evil 6 should get a remake is if it’s a page one rewrite from top to bottom

  • @DashCourageous
    @DashCourageous Před měsícem

    Resident Evil 6 - 11.80 million, the 7th best selling RE and that was since release until 2023. Your logic doesn't hold. Focus the story, eliminate the assistance play and keep the action gameplay by fixing it. Horror game reviewers sound snobbish when their treasured series or IP shifts gears once. RE as a series is never stale or becoming stale due to the shifts in tone. But opinions are subjective. This is mine.

  • @evgrlor2820
    @evgrlor2820 Před měsícem +3

    Remake RE5 but please just please not 6 but then again it will still be interesting to see it in modern graphics and most importantly reworking story narration

  • @OscarG787
    @OscarG787 Před měsícem +2

    Oh god no…… Please capcom if you love your fans you wouldn’t do this to us. 😰

  • @raidengoodman8754
    @raidengoodman8754 Před měsícem +1

    Trim it down to 2 campaigns. Leon and Sherry, Chris and Piers. Ada and Jake can be side NPCs. Helena can just be removed altogether. Hate her. Maybe have Jake learn that Chris killed his father early on and explore that side of Jake where Jake knows what his dad was and what he did and tried to do, but it still being his dad that he never saw and having complex emotions about it. Or just scrap the while Wesker kid subplot and have him retconned to just be a merc hired for the job

  • @wiseguy240Winston
    @wiseguy240Winston Před měsícem +5

    No, the goes for 5. I didn't even want a 4 remake. CV & 0 should have been next.

  • @inquisidorkatana
    @inquisidorkatana Před měsícem

    re 6 remake is maked afther re5 and code veronica .
    The year will be like 2028 so yes ,it could be remaked

  • @kahalghafri
    @kahalghafri Před měsícem

    Both re5 and re6 were a chore to playthrough

  • @mymovies9172
    @mymovies9172 Před měsícem

    Yes, it should be remade

  • @KateJacksonLincoln
    @KateJacksonLincoln Před měsícem

    I mean, it can’t be any worse than the original version

  • @Bushmasterghillie
    @Bushmasterghillie Před měsícem

    So basically a reworked demake

  • @nouserbri
    @nouserbri Před 21 dnem

    The game already looks good. What is there to be remade? What could’ve had been a remake was re5 if people weren’t so sensitive and mad that a place set in Africa has PEOPLE from africa 🙄

  • @echad6259
    @echad6259 Před měsícem

    I would rather see 5

  • @tamlinhodgkinson587
    @tamlinhodgkinson587 Před měsícem

    no brainer maid

  • @itzdcx7991
    @itzdcx7991 Před měsícem

    I think the word you're looking for is "Remastered" not remake

    • @GhostGamer799
      @GhostGamer799 Před měsícem

      A remaster is the same game but high resolution and fps a remake is the make the same game different with new engine and design and story

    • @itzdcx7991
      @itzdcx7991 Před měsícem

      @@GhostGamer799 Yea that's exactly what I said shirlock didn't ask for a definition-
      The game doesn't need a Remake it needs a remaster they should Remake older RE games like 0, 1, and Code Veronica that actually need it

    • @GhostGamer799
      @GhostGamer799 Před měsícem

      @@itzdcx7991 ohh okay but it have a remastered on ps4 and I also agree old Re games need a remake

  • @davidbarbosa8350
    @davidbarbosa8350 Před měsícem

    No

  • @tripledair
    @tripledair Před měsícem

    Remake Deeznuts 2

  • @makanmz8208
    @makanmz8208 Před měsícem

    No. Next question.

  • @222wesker
    @222wesker Před měsícem

    this one need rebot not remake trust me

  • @HELLER.
    @HELLER. Před měsícem +1

    Add more and more dread and horror in each chapters for the characters is what RE 6 must have if CAPCOM gonna remaking the game soon in the future.

    • @Lilhajxjk274
      @Lilhajxjk274 Před měsícem

      I know you didnt play re6 because if you understood the story you would know it can't be horror. Sherry and jake have regeneration and weskers powers. Ada, chris and leon have 15 years of experience. Why would they be scared.

  • @PRWarrior1986
    @PRWarrior1986 Před měsícem

    No that game barely had any actual gameplay in it. It’s a quick time event fest.

  •  Před měsícem

    No.

  • @anakinskywalker4940
    @anakinskywalker4940 Před měsícem

    They are not going to make 6 after 5 anyways, u lost me at no Co op

  • @Loh4984
    @Loh4984 Před měsícem

    Answer: No

  • @Youraveragegamer_97
    @Youraveragegamer_97 Před měsícem +2

    No joke but im hyped for the resident evil 7 remake in 2028
    Source? I said so

    • @Mythpathz
      @Mythpathz Před měsícem

      Bruh not every Resident Evil need remake and 7 is really to early it alteast need PS7 and PS8.