The reason why this book has never been made into a movie is because it needs to be a mini-series. 10-12 episodes. One season. With a director like Ang Lee. Donna Tartt would write the screenplay. All the actors should be young and unknown. Who agrees with me?
@@CalBruin ugh. If she owns it, it would end up much like The Talented Mr.Ripley. The best film adaptation; but still lacking the depth and scope of the novel itself.
I gave this book to my brother & he said “I’ve read 100 pages & all that’s happened is somebody’s cut their foot”. Keep reading I said. It’s now his favourite novel 👌
after i finish reading this whole book(almost done it) i’m going to come back to this and just listen to Donna Tartt read it. Her voice is just so alluring and you get to hear it in exactly the perspective that she intended it to be read in.
1:33:38 “After class, I wandered downstairs in a dream, my head spinning, but acutely, achingly conscious that I was alive and young on a beautiful day; the sky a deep deep painful blue, wind scattering the red and yellow leaves in a whirlwind of confetti. Beauty is terror. Whatever we call beautiful, we quiver before it. That night I wrote in my journal: 'Trees are schizophrenic now and beginning to lose control, enraged with the shock of their fiery new colors. Someone - was it van Gogh? - said that orange is the color of insanity. Beauty is terror. We want to be devoured by it, to hide ourselves in that fire which refines us.”
I remember first reading this on a railway station platform waiting for a train when it was first published. And continued to read it on the train. I was so utterly engrossed in it, I had no idea what railway station platform it was. Nor where I was going on the train. That was over twenty years ago. I still cannot remember the name of the railway station, nor where I was going. All I remember is reading this book. As far as I know, I am no longer on the train. Funny thing, time. Time and memories. Which reminds me, there's a copy of Proust's remembrance of things past beckoning towards me. And so it goes on.......
I can hear my town's train loud and clear after midnight, which is when i read the book (I just finished book 1). I won't be able to read book 2 without thinking of the internet stranger who read it on the train and almost got lost 20 years ago (-:
00:04:25 I took one last glance back through the saplings that leapt to close the path behind me. Though I remember the walk back and the first lonely flakes of snow that came drifting though the pines... --(skip lines)--...though I remeber only too well the long terrible night that lay ahead, and the long terrible days and nights that follow, I have only to glance over my shoulder for all those years to drow away and I see it behind me again: The ravine, rising all green and black through the saplings, a picture that will never leave me. 00:05:11 I suppose at one time in my life, I might have had any numbers of stories but now, there is no other. This is the only story I will ever be able to tell 00:05:30 Does such a thing as the fatal flaw, that showy dark crack running down the middle of a life, exist outside of literature. I used to think it didn't, now I think it does. And I think that mine is this: A morbid longing for the picturesque, at all costs....My name is Richard Papen. 1:03:02 ...I'm not in my soul if not obsessive. 1:19:25 our own selves makes us the most unhappy, and that's why we're so anxious to lose them... 1:19:37 ...and how did they drive people mad? They turned up the volume of the inner monologue...made people so much themselves they couldn't stand it 1:25:09 death is the mother or beauty, said Henry. And what is beauty? Terror. ---- Beauty is rarely soft or consolotary. Quite the contrary. Genuine beauty is always quite alarming. 1:25:37 ...and if beauty is terror, said Julian, then what is desire? We think we have many desires, but in fact we have only one. What is it? To live, said Camilla. To live forever, said Bunny... 1:29:25 the more cultivated a person is, the more intelligent, the more repressed. Then, the more he need some method of channeling the primitive impulses he's worked so hard to subdue. 1:32:00 beauty is terror. Whatever we call beautiful, we quiver before it. 1:32:45 but how glorious to release them in a single burst. To sing, to scream, to dance barefoot in the woods in the dead of night with no more awareness of mortality than an animal. These powerful mysteries, bellowing of balls... 1:33:05 ...and look that naked, terrible beauty right in the face, let god consume us, devour us, unstring our bones, and spit us out reborn.
One of my favorite books and I have read it 3 times over the years. My daughter went to college in Vermont so the campus & outdoor descriptions were easy for me for me to visualize. I have always wished these would be a movie someday - starring all unknown actors except maybe a senior known actor for Julian ( maybe Donald Sutherland). Most recently while watching a series on Hulu called “ Tell Me Lies “ one actor - Spencer House - called Wigley made me think of one person - Bunny from Secret History…I laughed out loud because I was not thinking of the book but this character was exactly how I envisioned Bunny to be in Secret History. Now, I am enjoying the audible book - my 4 th time reading this wonderful story…thank you so much!
Donna Tartt is so eloquent I love it! When I read "The snow in the mountains was melting and Bunny had been dead for several weeks" I smile because I know I will soon being deep into my favourite book in the entire world
Thank you OP so so much for sharing this magnificent novel. I’d read it years ago, but so compelling to hear it in Tartt’s own voice. Looking forward to Less Than Zero, thank you again 🌟
Agree!!! I've actually read comments where people don't like her reading and it shocks me!!! Granted I haven't heard tons of audiobooks but after hearing her read TSH listening to someone else read The Little Friend is agonizing. The fake southern accent the reader uses is atrocious and I long for Tartt's melodious voice.
As someone who is not a native English speaker (I'm french and turn out to be naturilised as a brazilian citizen) I would say that Donna Tartt's voice is a delight. I don't know why some people don't like her reading but I am a big fan of audiobooks and I'd say she did an amazing job. I think her southern accent is very beautiful and together with the bostonian one it seems to me as the "most correct" and understandable american accent (I'm more used to australian and british accents). Ps.: For the person who said she sounded young I think she really was at the time (young for a writer of her level at least).
03:54:52 Just for my own tab! Thank you so much for this! My neurodivergentcy sometimes makes it hard to get through bigger or complicated books, reading along with an audiobook makes all the difference! Especially since this already is such a good book
I read the prologue and immediately was intrigued and now I feel like I'm watching someone's life! It's insane how she has written this book. Can't wait to keep reading
It's my first time reading this book, and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna read it again someday.. the book is just too perfect. I'm having so much fun. i love itt + Donna tartt voice is just soo *chef kiss*.
DESCRIPTION: The Secret History is an inverted detective story narrated by one of the six students, Richard Papen, who reflects years later upon the situation that led to the murder of their friend Edmund "Bunny" Corcoran - wherein the events leading up to the murder are revealed sequentially.
Thanks for uploading - I read this many years ago and enjoyed it very much. Thrilled to re-visit. I love Donna Tartt’s reading; it is so seldom that authors also make good readers. 🙏
🔖: 4:32:49 quotes: 1:25:09 “Death is the mother of beauty,” said Henry 1:25:38 “And if beauty is terror,” said Julian, 4:37:17 “I was sliding off the steep roof of unconsciousness”
Keep seeing people that remind me of the main characters! I saw a Camilla the other day. If I had been writing a treatment for the stage... I woulda asked her to read for it. Bunny would be a big guy- broad and tall. Henry tall & thin. The depictions I've seen on video are laughable- they are all 17 year old actors tryna look like the book. But I'm old now, still obsessed with this great book. It really is the best- and loving Greek is an added bonus. Love & rockets, my friends.
What is it about this lady's writing that's so good ,I found a second hand book this one in a charity shop and fell in love .thanks Donna hope you white more ,lots more.
Omg who are you and why am I worthy to blessed of this? I just found it in my reccs and have been looking for an audiobook to read along to! Because adhd, unfortunately. Thank you so so much!!
at 4:05:40 it's sweet bunny apologized to richard in a letter and added mints lol also the difference between henry and francis's goodbyes kills me lol also this part is so funny 4:25:10
I think it’s clear taht when you have a whole 500+ page book as you source material that it’s common sense that when adapting it that it might not make a great movie, instead of condensing events down you can allow each part to fully sink in as a limited series. Would’ve be the first time. It’s a self contained series so of course it’d have one season. You wouldn’t be able to consume the story as intended as a two parter. Fresh faced and relatively unknown actors so that the work can stand on its own with the buzz recognition and association to tarnish the work. Obviously Donna would would work on the screenplay. And directors like like
Oh Lordy. I went to a fancy, exclusive New England College and I’m a humanities professor, and though I’ve tried many times, I just can’t get past the first chapter of this book. I’ve tried to read it for years, but I’m letting that go now, since even the audiobook isn’t working. If I can’t be interested in a murder, things are really dire. Thanks for posting; I’m sure others will like.
I think it means that the longing for the beautiful, pretty, picturesque was the 'character flaw' that ruined Richard's life (and probably that of the rest as well) It attracted him to the Greek class students and their dubious morals and ended up having him involved in things. Things he'll be afraid of being arrested for, for the rest of his life. Richard wonders wonders whether such a fatal character flaw exists outside of fiction/books, and concludes it does for him. I hope this helps!
hi there, I believe this is in reference to Aristotle’s principles of tragedy and how they relate to this novel. Donna Tartt mentions the fatal flaw by name in the first paragraph to let us in on the fact that what we are about to read is a tragedy. This novel is widely understood as a Greek tragedy play adapted into the novel format. In short, according to Aristotle, the tragic hero should be a person from a noble background who has a fatal flaw. The hero’s fatal flaw eventually leads to their fate changing for the worse. Typically, a tragic hero’s fatal flaw is likely to be ‘hubris’ (excessive pride and ambition.) Depending on what you thought of the novel, you might also think this applies to the tragic hero of this novel (the five original Greek students as a collective.) The events of the tragedy play in Ancient Greece were often accompanied by what is known as a Greek chorus. The purpose of the Greek chorus was to interpret and comment on the progression of events in the tragedy. Some people understand Richard as the Greek chorus, he does not significantly affect the plot by himself but rather he is the observer of the tragedy. He witnesses the hero fall into the temptation to give into their fatal flaw, sees their reversal of luck, and can only comment and emotionally process what is happening. I’m sorry if this did not answer your question/ if you already knew this! I’m quite sleepy but this book is a bit of guilty pleasure of mine so I wanted to write a response. Have a nice day!
The reason why this book has never been made into a movie is because it needs to be a mini-series. 10-12 episodes. One season. With a director like Ang Lee. Donna Tartt would write the screenplay. All the actors should be young and unknown. Who agrees with me?
as long as netflix doesn't pick it up, sure thing
absolutely!
sounds good
Second does not Gwyneth Pawltrogh have still the film rights. It is sitting on some movie producer's desk collecting dust.
@@CalBruin ugh. If she owns it, it would end up much like The Talented Mr.Ripley. The best film adaptation; but still lacking the depth and scope of the novel itself.
I gave this book to my brother & he said “I’ve read 100 pages & all that’s happened is somebody’s cut their foot”. Keep reading I said. It’s now his favourite novel 👌
If you're a man and this is your favourite book, condolences, you are a homosexual
@@TomorrowWeLive how exactly does that work
@@TomorrowWeLive braindead
@@TomorrowWeLive HAHAHAHHA SO TRUE
@@TomorrowWeLive Yet you're here too.
I could listen to Donna Tartt talk for hours. Literally.
prologue 1:25
book one:
ch one: 5:30
ch two: 1:39:09
ch three: 3:52:20
Absolute angel
Thank u.
you are an angel sent from heaven xxx
😢
thank you so much oh my god
34:04 - Henry WInter
34:51 - Bunny Corcoran
35:30 - Francis Abernathy
36:28 - Twins
after i finish reading this whole book(almost done it) i’m going to come back to this and just listen to Donna Tartt read it. Her voice is just so alluring and you get to hear it in exactly the perspective that she intended it to be read in.
what i’m doing rn
Same doing it rn as I’m writing this
same here
1:03:04 “I am nothing in my soul if not obsessive”
1:32:18 “beauty is terror. Whatever we call beautiful, we quiver before it”
Oh, how this resonates. Happy New Year to all💥
Richard Papen literally became an accomplice in murder because he wanted to sleep in on Monday mornings, I mean-
I’ve never read anything more relatable
no one told me how hilarious this book is😭
her reading voice is so good. i wish she narrated the goldfinch
1:33:38
“After class, I wandered downstairs in a dream, my head spinning, but acutely, achingly conscious that I was alive and young on a beautiful day; the sky a deep deep painful blue, wind scattering the red and
yellow leaves in a whirlwind of confetti.
Beauty is terror. Whatever we call beautiful, we quiver before it.
That night I wrote in my journal: 'Trees are schizophrenic now and beginning to lose control, enraged with the shock of their fiery new colors. Someone - was it van Gogh? - said that orange is the color of insanity.
Beauty is terror. We want to be devoured by it, to hide ourselves in that fire which refines us.”
My goodness, was there ever such a prologue? Instantly freezes my heart and catches in my throat everytime.
01:39:00- end of chapter 1 (introduction)
03:52:20- end of chapter 2 (explains the relationship between them all in the following year)
9i8
I'm sorry 😞 not 6-Justificaci8iol
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you are amazing
Loving the book but the background music from the beginning was killinngg meee
Loving is not used like you used it in your sentence. I am loving this book is okay.
@@gailcirac8222 it’s a shorthand sentence often used on the internet these days.
Too loud!
@@jdanvers7263 decadence *
@@gailcirac8222 perhaps you shouldn’t correct people if you aren’t familiar with extremely common colloquialisms
I remember first reading this on a railway station platform waiting for a train when it was first published. And continued to read it on the train. I was so utterly engrossed in it,
I had no idea what railway station platform it was. Nor where I was going on the train. That was over twenty years ago. I still cannot remember the name of the railway station, nor where I was going. All I remember is reading this book. As far as I know, I am no longer on the train. Funny thing, time. Time and memories. Which reminds me, there's a copy of Proust's remembrance of things past beckoning towards me. And so it goes on.......
I can hear my town's train loud and clear after midnight, which is when i read the book (I just finished book 1). I won't be able to read book 2 without thinking of the internet stranger who read it on the train and almost got lost 20 years ago (-:
@@lilacheaven222
You will.
The passengers change , but the train remains the same.
Do the destinations change , though ?
00:04:25 I took one last glance back through the saplings that leapt to close the path behind me. Though I remember the walk back and the first lonely flakes of snow that came drifting though the pines... --(skip lines)--...though I remeber only too well the long terrible night that lay ahead, and the long terrible days and nights that follow, I have only to glance over my shoulder for all those years to drow away and I see it behind me again: The ravine, rising all green and black through the saplings, a picture that will never leave me.
00:05:11 I suppose at one time in my life, I might have had any numbers of stories but now, there is no other. This is the only story I will ever be able to tell
00:05:30 Does such a thing as the fatal flaw, that showy dark crack running down the middle of a life, exist outside of literature. I used to think it didn't, now I think it does. And I think that mine is this: A morbid longing for the picturesque, at all costs....My name is Richard Papen.
1:03:02 ...I'm not in my soul if not obsessive.
1:19:25 our own selves makes us the most unhappy, and that's why we're so anxious to lose them...
1:19:37 ...and how did they drive people mad? They turned up the volume of the inner monologue...made people so much themselves they couldn't stand it
1:25:09 death is the mother or beauty, said Henry. And what is beauty? Terror. ---- Beauty is rarely soft or consolotary. Quite the contrary. Genuine beauty is always quite alarming.
1:25:37 ...and if beauty is terror, said Julian, then what is desire? We think we have many desires, but in fact we have only one. What is it? To live, said Camilla. To live forever, said Bunny...
1:29:25 the more cultivated a person is, the more intelligent, the more repressed. Then, the more he need some method of channeling the primitive impulses he's worked so hard to subdue.
1:32:00 beauty is terror. Whatever we call beautiful, we quiver before it.
1:32:45 but how glorious to release them in a single burst. To sing, to scream, to dance barefoot in the woods in the dead of night with no more awareness of mortality than an animal. These powerful mysteries, bellowing of balls...
1:33:05 ...and look that naked, terrible beauty right in the face, let god consume us, devour us, unstring our bones, and spit us out reborn.
One of my favorite books and I have read it 3 times over the years. My daughter went to college in Vermont so the campus & outdoor descriptions were easy for me for me to visualize. I have always wished these would be a movie someday - starring all unknown actors except maybe a senior known actor for Julian ( maybe Donald Sutherland). Most recently while watching a series on Hulu called “ Tell Me Lies “ one actor - Spencer House - called Wigley made me think of one person - Bunny from Secret History…I laughed out loud because I was not thinking of the book but this character was exactly how I envisioned Bunny to be in Secret History. Now, I am enjoying the audible book - my 4 th time reading this wonderful story…thank you so much!
They should make it a 8 part miniseries on some streaming service. I don’t think a 2hr movie could do it justice
Perhaps Anthony Hopkins as Julian? Timothée Chalamet as Francis?
bookmarks
1:08:25 page 32
2:32:50 page 70
3:44:09 page 100
Her voice is perfect for narration.
Tartt is the Stanley Kubrick of novelists. A new work about every ten years. (More or less) She’s worth the wait.
Donna Tartt is so eloquent I love it! When I read "The snow in the mountains was melting and Bunny had been dead for several weeks" I smile because I know I will soon being deep into my favourite book in the entire world
Thank you OP so so much for sharing this magnificent novel. I’d read it years ago, but so compelling to hear it in Tartt’s own voice. Looking forward to Less Than Zero, thank you again 🌟
Bunny is so damn annoying, but I laughed at 4:03:54
This book is so well written
Thank you so much for this, I really love Donna Tartt's voice ❤️
Is it her voice? She sounds young
Agree!!! I've actually read comments where people don't like her reading and it shocks me!!! Granted I haven't heard tons of audiobooks but after hearing her read TSH listening to someone else read The Little Friend is agonizing. The fake southern accent the reader uses is atrocious and I long for Tartt's melodious voice.
As someone who is not a native English speaker (I'm french and turn out to be naturilised as a brazilian citizen) I would say that Donna Tartt's voice is a delight. I don't know why some people don't like her reading but I am a big fan of audiobooks and I'd say she did an amazing job. I think her southern accent is very beautiful and together with the bostonian one it seems to me as the "most correct" and understandable american accent (I'm more used to australian and british accents).
Ps.: For the person who said she sounded young I think she really was at the time (young for a writer of her level at least).
What else might you love of her?
She reminds of Renee Zelveger voice wise..!
Simply incredible descriptives which truly draw you in; and allow for an amazingly intimate participation in the lives of her characters....
03:54:52 Just for my own tab! Thank you so much for this! My neurodivergentcy sometimes makes it hard to get through bigger or complicated books, reading along with an audiobook makes all the difference! Especially since this already is such a good book
bookmark: 4:48:29
prologue: 1:20
book 1: 5:24
chapter 2: 1:39:01
chapter 3: 3:52:21
1:11:30 "nothing" :)
1:32:10 "Beauty is terror."
God thank you i needed to hear Donna say "Cubitum eamus?" so bad
Am i the only one thats imagining bunny as mickey mouse with the way his dialogue is read 😅
Tartt is a WordSmith. A pleasure to read/hear an author who knows how to actually write on this level.
я хочу знать английский , чтобы наслаждаться этим шедевром 😭♥️
you can do it!
Я верю в тебя!
I read the prologue and immediately was intrigued and now I feel like I'm watching someone's life! It's insane how she has written this book. Can't wait to keep reading
" and if beauty is terror than what is desire ?" 1:25:39
the best book ever written in the history of ever
This is incredibly written. The multiple reading or listening to it would drege unbeknownst insights.a true 💎
it makes sm sense that bunny sound like that and why he died
I am listening to this... but you better believe I will be buying the book asap.
I'm getting my mom to buy it for me.
It's my first time reading this book, and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna read it again someday.. the book is just too perfect. I'm having so much fun. i love itt + Donna tartt voice is just soo *chef kiss*.
Donna's voice for Bunny sounds like gangster's voice from old Bugs Bunny cartoons. 😆
DESCRIPTION: The Secret History is an inverted detective story narrated by one of the six students, Richard Papen, who reflects years later upon the situation that led to the murder of their friend Edmund "Bunny" Corcoran - wherein the events leading up to the murder are revealed sequentially.
Thanks for uploading - I read this many years ago and enjoyed it very much. Thrilled to re-visit. I love Donna Tartt’s reading; it is so seldom that authors also make good readers. 🙏
page 14. 25:19
page 26. 53:35
page 38. 1:26:13
page 76. 2:46:58
page 92 3:23:49
i have dreams about the secret history in film directed by wes anderson it would be so beautiful 😭
This book is quite dense. I’m listening to the book as I read it, it makes it more manageable
🔖: 4:32:49
quotes:
1:25:09 “Death is the mother of beauty,” said Henry
1:25:38 “And if beauty is terror,” said Julian,
4:37:17 “I was sliding off the steep roof of unconsciousness”
1:18:47 But isn’t it also pain that often makes us most aware of self?
Great listen before bed. The narration of Donna Tart puts me in a good night sleep.
Keep seeing people that remind me of the main characters!
I saw a Camilla the other day. If I had been writing a treatment for the stage...
I woulda asked her to read for it.
Bunny would be a big guy- broad and tall. Henry tall & thin. The depictions I've seen on video are laughable- they are all 17 year old actors tryna look like the book. But I'm old now, still obsessed with this great book. It really is the best- and loving Greek is an added bonus.
Love & rockets, my friends.
48:10 he regarded me w a chill distaste, i love homer
I read this during the first summer of my Peace Corps service in Thailand.. many moons ago
love her accent
What is it about this lady's writing that's so good ,I found a second hand book this one in a charity shop and fell in love .thanks Donna hope you white more ,lots more.
bookmarks
1:39:00 - chapter two
2:24:00
3:51:00
4:13:00
this is great. the book as well as the voice.
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I'm so glad for this upload. I just noticed it, like a Christmas present.
bookmarks 📚
4:42:06
3:50:05
1:36:13
2:36:45 “You should only, ever, do what is necessary.”
1:25:10
‘Death is the mother of beauty,’ said Henry.
‘And what is beauty?’
‘Terror.’
Donna Tartt's voice acting for Bunny is phenomenal 😂
I love her reading. But her French...
Does anyone know the name of the music that’s played in the beginning?
Haha, I came to this comment section to know the same!!! I so want to make it a playlist of just the song. It's so haunting ❤
this is so wonderful, please post more parts!
🕰 bookmarks
[ 1 ] 26:45
[ 2 ] 1:08:45
[ 3 ] 1:28:34
[ 4 ] 2:31:54
[ 5 ] 3:21:37
I love her narration. I just wish I’d understood that the main character is male- earlier on. I’m starting back at the beginning!
Omg who are you and why am I worthy to blessed of this?
I just found it in my reccs and have been looking for an audiobook to read along to! Because adhd, unfortunately.
Thank you so so much!!
I just saw a picture of this lady she's beautiful
Personal bookmarks 📚
1:35:25
2:25:40
3:21:40
at 4:05:40 it's sweet bunny apologized to richard in a letter and added mints lol also the difference between henry and francis's goodbyes kills me lol
also this part is so funny 4:25:10
Bookmarks / progress :
2:26:00
3:22:00
Page 114 chapter three - 3:52:00
personal bookmark at 3:52:22; thank you for posting this! i like to listen along to audiobooks while annotating the physical copy.
Chapter 2: 1:39:05
Chapter 3: 3:52:17
Thank you so much for uploading this. ❤
📖 Personal Bookmark - 1:33:36
Book marks:
19:39
1:31:12
knowing that donna tartt is from mississippi, i did not expect her to sound like this
End Of Character 1 1:39:00
End Of Character 2 3:52:21
Bookmarks:
3:52:23
3:22:14
3:09:42
2:34:54
bookmark 1: 1:43:01
bookmark 2: 3:06:04
bookmark 3: 3:33:40
I just can't believe that the character is from San Jose, CA due to the narrators accent...
bookmark: 1:31:48
This is praiseworthy content. A comparable book I read was likewise life-affirming. "The Silent Bridge: Echoes of the Unspoken Past" by Emma Wick
The was THE Book of the 90’s. It’s so GenX Everyone read it … remember back when even very young people read novels?
NO! I don't remember a time when this or the previous generation were nothing but assholes. And now they are older assholes. Fat assholes at that.
Some one please god tell me the name of the song at the start
please I've been searching for ages
College was a lot like this. Even the Brian Eno.
Bookmarks:
1:25:59
2:07:04
2:59:36
3:23:57
3:52:21
Bookmark 2:22:22
Pg 94 3:16:02
Pg123 4:23:59
I think it’s clear taht when you have a whole 500+ page book as you source material that it’s common sense that when adapting it that it might not make a great movie, instead of condensing events down you can allow each part to fully sink in as a limited series. Would’ve be the first time. It’s a self contained series so of course it’d have one season. You wouldn’t be able to consume the story as intended as a two parter. Fresh faced and relatively unknown actors so that the work can stand on its own with the buzz recognition and association to tarnish the work. Obviously Donna would would work on the screenplay. And directors like like
Oh Lordy. I went to a fancy, exclusive New England College and I’m a humanities professor, and though I’ve tried many times, I just can’t get past the first chapter of this book. I’ve tried to read it for years, but I’m letting that go now, since even the audiobook isn’t working. If I can’t be interested in a murder, things are really dire. Thanks for posting; I’m sure others will like.
The same thoughts here…I’m giving another chance to this audiobook🤞🏻
I like the voice of the narrator 🖤🖤tusm for reading to us
It’s the author, Donna Tartt
can someone explain to me the meaning of the first paragraph of chapter 1? about fatal flow... morbid picturesque at all costs.
sorry i’m bad explaining but i’ll try 🤒
i think the fatal flaw is something wrong with someone that can to lead to death but i’m not sure 🙅♀️
I think it means that the longing for the beautiful, pretty, picturesque was the 'character flaw' that ruined Richard's life (and probably that of the rest as well)
It attracted him to the Greek class students and their dubious morals and ended up having him involved in things. Things he'll be afraid of being arrested for, for the rest of his life.
Richard wonders wonders whether such a fatal character flaw exists outside of fiction/books, and concludes it does for him.
I hope this helps!
hi there, I believe this is in reference to Aristotle’s principles of tragedy and how they relate to this novel. Donna Tartt mentions the fatal flaw by name in the first paragraph to let us in on the fact that what we are about to read is a tragedy.
This novel is widely understood as a Greek tragedy play adapted into the novel format. In short, according to Aristotle, the tragic hero should be a person from a noble background who has a fatal flaw. The hero’s fatal flaw eventually leads to their fate changing for the worse.
Typically, a tragic hero’s fatal flaw is likely to be ‘hubris’ (excessive pride and ambition.) Depending on what you thought of the novel, you might also think this applies to the tragic hero of this novel (the five original Greek students as a collective.)
The events of the tragedy play in Ancient Greece were often accompanied by what is known as a Greek chorus. The purpose of the Greek chorus was to interpret and comment on the progression of events in the tragedy. Some people understand Richard as the Greek chorus, he does not significantly affect the plot by himself but rather he is the observer of the tragedy. He witnesses the hero fall into the temptation to give into their fatal flaw, sees their reversal of luck, and can only comment and emotionally process what is happening.
I’m sorry if this did not answer your question/ if you already knew this! I’m quite sleepy but this book is a bit of guilty pleasure of mine so I wanted to write a response. Have a nice day!
Does anyone know the name of the opening background score?? 🥺
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This is really good
If only Philip Seymour Hofman were still around to play bunny
He did play Dickie Fredericks, who I believe was an inspiration for Bunny.
Thank you for saying this! I imagined Bunny as PSH from the first time I read this book and imo it's a perfect fit. He would have nailed it 😢
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I can't wait to hear this again. I'm subscribing by way of thanks!
I got it on Audible and right after it finished I started it again.
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One of my all time favourite books
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At first, I was like, fucking hell, is Procopius still alive. Alas, I was disappointed.
I love how she says white