The PC Reborn - Introducing Snapdragon X Plus
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- The PC Reborn: Introducing Snapdragon X Plus, the newest platform within the Snapdragon X series.
Equipped with cutting-edge technologies to deliver powerful performance, long battery life, lightning-fast wireless connectivity, and exciting new AI features powered by The World’s Fastest NPU for Laptops deliver 45 TOPS!
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lol
Yeah !
Chad
lol, I feel like THIS comment is going to set the pace for the comments section, now. :D
Like Apple does
lol Every recent tech company presentation summary: "AI. AI. AI."
Becouse cpus on there own are realy on there limits and wont get insanely much faster anymore so the only way to get more out is incressing programm speed with AI
@@xythiera7255 hehe yap current transistor CPUs seem to be at their peak.
@xythiera7255 it's a gimmick. AI can't make processor faster GOD DAMN IT! It creates ILLUSIONS. Frame-gen and Super Resolution
@@Phat_trick910 You clearly don't know how this works, I understand your point but you are quite mistaken here, this is not a such case, here the NPU is specialized and optimized to run multiple parallelized tasks related to AI processing, that is what AI makes for it, but it really isn't AI instead it is for AI. Hope I made myself clear for you to understand it.
@@maximolr You need to know how to stop run-on sentences, lmao.
This marketing campaign has lasted longer than most dev cycles.
To be fair, the new chips are meant for Windows 12 and all the NPU/A.I. stuff.
🤣🤣🤣
you must build the hype
@@PurpleWarlockThat said I really hope chips without NPU are still upgradeable to Windows 12 once it comes out even if I plan to stick with Windows 11. If Windows 12 requires a NPU, then you know that Microsoft has screwed up (even more).
Unfortunately that's what MS is known for, namely to screw people! I remember when windows 11 was announced, and although it was no different to the 10, yet it wasn't backward compatible. People who had purchased/built/upgraded parts 1-2 years prior to Windows 11 launch couldn't upgrade to Windows 11!
Stop talking about it and just release it.
have they even released the x elite 😂
You know how it works right? We have to wait to get the tech from aliens to reverse engineer it then the Elites get the tech before it gets in the hands of the general public. All we get is advertising and showcases until we're allowed to use any ground breaking tech. Transistors, fiber optics, microchips, and so on all went through this process and were all reverse engineered from alien tech
Arm needs people to integrate it into a device cause no one has made a motherboard with a replaceable arm cpu
It will be a laptop before desktop but wont run games until we get away from x86
😂
More competition are good for consumers, good job snapdragon
😎
@@snapdragon Hey don't you dare take the upgradeability and customizability of pc away from us. We want m.2 SSDs not those soldered on motherboard trash that Apple gives
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombatThat is up to the manufacturer. Not snapdragon
@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat Dont blame snapdragon brother. it depends on manufacturer
@@gojosatoru1845 snapdragon designs the cpus then the manufacturer makes them... it was snapdragon's choice to have onboard memory.
The person who chose the music deserves a raise!
Maybe it's AI
Oh no 😂@@benyeh2181
LMAO
@@benyeh2181 no
AI is already way smarter than tech CEO’s
I love when executives wear sneakers to try to convince you they're real humans. 😂
If exes are engineers then they are wearing them because they really like them. Those Mfs are afraid of looking nice lol
Bruh why bro must you pay attention to that lmao 😂
Prompt engineer read this comment and added the real sneaker to waer more realistic world clothes...
fuck is he supposed to wear bro?
@@yungmetr0135 there these things called "dress shoes" and they always look better than sneakers. huey is right, its just to try to relate to the masses. In reality they'd prob wearing sandals or really old vans
title: "The PC Reborn"
thumbnail: your "X"
Edit: Thumbnail changed :)
title : "The PC Reborn"
me : finally, we are getting PC 2
After sony release ps5 yeah finally pc gamers get pc2
i count "49" times they said AI 😄
AI is the future baby 🔥
@@snapdragon Yeah babe
@@snapdragon groovy, baby~!
Apple is scared to say it lol
It is the buzzword of the day. Still, the platform looks very interesting.
I'll start listening when Snapdragon X ships on many Linux laptops, not just Lenovo.
Same here!
Linux will never be a thing because it's free. why do linux users always come under microsoft windows videos. you are annoying af
Bruh, any snapdragon is good with Linux. Android phones are Linux based kernel
You can just install linux on a Lenovo laptop like most linux users does already 🤷
its already available with linux and is optimised check online
When they showed davinci, audacity and obs workflows.. I'm sold! It's seldom for a tech company to showcase the real world uses of apps in videos like this.. hope i can afford.. definitely my next laptop will have this processor
Snapdragon X is made for the real world 💪
@@snapdragon Will there be any affordable option as well?
@@fuckas..rI guess that's what X plus is for
These processors are optimized for tablet laptops like the Microsoft surface pro. Basically a tablet or Ultrabook. It won't beat the Intel i9 14900hx on a gaming laptop.😂
@@Emyrtemoc You don't need a scolding hot iron in an outrageously priced heavy laptop to run production workloads. You can do your work on a laptop that's 1.5 kilograms and doesn't sound like a Boeing 727.
I keep hearing it's gonna be the best for like 6 months now, just tell me when I can buy one
me too
right !
Microsoft will be announcing Surface Pros and Laptops with X Plus & X Elite next month. We'll prob have them in our hands early June.
It do kinda piss me off when they keep claiming better than opponent when their products are already available while this still don't have a release date
The target was always mid this year, but yeah, I think they made a mistake revealing it so long ago. It feels like old news for something that hasn't even been released yet.
But can it run crysis?
we are not done yet with X Elite since last week. now we face the new X Plus. what an ARM CHAD
1. Will it have Linux drivers?
2. Will those drivers support everything its capable of? (including AI)
3. Will additional software be available?
sdm's history in mobile space is good. like relesing source codes . so i expect it should be good
Excited for the possibilities, terrified for backward compatibility. 😬
Apple did it ok - they can’t do less
@@AgathaWhispers Apple did it successfully twice (ppc->x86_64->arm), Microsoft tried it once and failed miserably (x86->itanium), not sure that you can apply other company success universally
@@AgathaWhispers Apple did ok because they're a closed system and they're able to fully commit to moving to that architecture. Microsoft can't do that. The use cases people use Macs for cover far less than what people use Windows for and Windows has decades of x86/64 applications and executables that people still use and will forever want access to.
dont be terrified, i can bet it will be backward compatable up to windows XP. i have this hunch.
There's a world of possibilities coming! We have hundreds of games are running great on the platform, and we're excited to share more soon.
I hope you do some desktop chips eventually.
I'm sure they will have to if these chips get mass adoption in the mobile space.
Imagine the shake up on both AMD and Intel when it happens! Competition is always good for us consumers!
@@miltonpessa4930I hope Intel and AMD adopts the RISC-V ISA for their future desktop CPU’s. ARM is a monopoly and their architectures more closed than X86.
@@NoX-512 who cares if arm is closed as long is the price is right and it does what you wnat
No that's completely Nvidia's domain my boy.
I really want a mini pc powered by a Snapdragon X Elite
Pensé exactamente lo mismo. He sido fan de productores como Geekom que para mí son Tiny PC , ni siquiera Mini y me parecen bastante buenos fiables ya con lo actual y muy capaces, ahora con Snapdragon Elite creo que puede alcanzar otro nivel , sobre todo por el tema de que utilizan muchos menos Watts y en factores tan pequeños eso es Oro Puro, por la dificultad en refrigerar. Con este tipo de procesadores con ARM en el que ahora compiten las compañías se viene un futuro donde el.poder de un PC de mesa creo que podrá llevarse en el bolsillo en el futuro cercano. Igualmente están en esta etapa las GPU o APU integrados.
I hope to be able to buy a system that is open to running Linux. Please do what you can to ensure that there will be options for running Linux on these chips.
linux is boring. why do linux users always come under microsoft windows/products videos? you are annoying af
They are already in kernel. CZcams scraps links, but you can google that.
I heard Intel Core Ultra 7 more times than X Elite, is this an intel advertisement 😂
Intel chips can melt through metal nowadays
@htpoint what about battery life? This is arm dude.
thats not the point. if you want power just get gaming laptop. these chips are for power efficiency to battery life ratio (which x86 is sucks of)
Because x86 chips are bad on laptops, now windows laptops can compete with macbooks
M3 pro v Snapdragon X Elite. I just purchased M3 pro🔥. Best laptop ever for me. I used to use gaming laptop, battery extremely suck. This one is lasting way way longer.
The fact that there aren't comparisons to the M3 in every chart is pretty telling. I mean, I get the "we want to compare it to other Windows laptops" reasoning, but that's not really how people who care about performance figures shop for laptops. They're asking if they need to run x86 workloads natively, and if not, then they're looking for the best Arm ISA chip. Hopefully the Snapdragon X devices will be competitive in pricing, if not in performance.
m3 is said to much faster but it is as fast or faster than m2, which is still great
you dont get it. to a windows user anything close to m1 performance in terms of battery is a breath of fresh air and enough. note mac os doesint have CAD and plathora of applications native.
@@univera1111 ...totally !
I use both & hence agree.
I noticed there is no mention of Gaming on Oryon CPU or SD X Elite
Facts
PS4 Pro level GPU. About the same speed as Apple’s chips
@@NoX-512 Bro ! Then will be able to play all my games ?! On windows 🪟
The new oryon CPU of snapdragon 8 gen 4 is kinda equal to Apple's A17 pro.
Why would you want to play games when you can be a Teams call "power user" all day like this guy? I mean, he REALLY seems to love Teams, can't you hear how much he loves it in his overly-scripted dialog? Teams is the best, much more fun than games. ;-)
AI this, AI that, I don't like how much attention AI has been getting recently. It's always good to see new competition in the CPU market though. I look forward to seeing what you have to offer.
WHAT was that banger !!!! we need that on Spotify ASAP!!!!
It would be SICK if they said it was made by their generative AI plugin in audacity!
In my company, we have two work laptop variants: 1) AMD G4 2) Qualcomm.
Those who opted for Qualcomm variant enjoying 4x battery life compared to AMD variant. Even though AMD variant is more powerful on paper and has double the RAM, performance is same.
Waiting to see Qualcomm based processors on consumer laptops.
Amazing! Good job Snapdragon/Qualcomm team!!!
Thank you! 😄
We will see that, if it's finally release. You know based on the price, most comparison probably will not against the cheapest basic M chip... because when you compare the 12 power cores with just 4 power cores, you easily can show good results. And they barely compare themself with even the M2 or M3 Pro (which still has less than 12 power cores)
And the 40% extra battery life compared to x86 in Excel it's not even close to the 2-3x longer battery life for Macbooks.
Special thanks for highlighting Open Source Software in the Use Case examples!! The "Elite" is not just for the "Elites" is a statement in itself! Well Done!!
Got it: “ISO power” “AI” “Core Ultra” - take away is “We’re probably going to ship systems after talking as if it existed for a year already and hopefully not have people run equitable benchmarks…”
Looking forward to it, but still aiming for the X Elite 😉
Snapdragon X Plus 🚀 🚀 🚀
👨🚀
Oooo I'm excited for that one too
My dream laptop has always been slim, longer battery life, software and hardware optimization, excellent display and webcam, Terrific and loud speakers with no fan in a windows laptop
- Thank You, Snapdragon for making it True
The biggest collaboration in the laptop industry. Loved It always been a snapdragon fan with Android hope you will also shine in pc market.
When is base Snapdragon X coming with 8 core? for like half the price of macbook air?
Will it do full performance on battery like macbook pros?
So the Snapdragon X elite with 23 watts is the X plus now? Good tier separation for consumers to differentiate. So excited that less power is taken for these activities. To imagine that slowly we move towards low energy solutions is amazing! Great work Qualcomm and Microsoft (ARM support for Windows)
Windows on arm and laptops will be changed forever. Super excited and here for it
Whichever PC with Snap X Elite ..m buying it ;)
We love to see it.
for real for real
@@snapdragoncan you make snapdragons x elite max just like apple m3max
I'm stoked about 5G on a Laptop 😍😍😍
6:26 haha I love it when 2 dimensional graphs only have one axis with a legend
I would buy a Snapdragon laptop even just for the sound and battery life. I hope they will have your AptX Adaptive and AptX HD codec.
please make "Oryon ready" as the slogan for the devices using the snapdragon x plus
I”d love to see the same level of optimization for Linux. Great to see new ARM processors but no thanks if Ilm for Ed to run Windows.
its already super optimised for linux check youtube
Will it have an uefi bios to install any OS?
Most of the benchmark tests were conducted on ISO power to highlight X Elite performance per-Watt, but how about full power benchmark on each systems?
Take a shot every time he says AI
Is there a NSA hardware back door like Intel ME or AMD PSP? Is there FOSS drivers for running Linux?
NSA surely will preinstall circuit level surveillance CCTV SOC in SOC for protecting regime, and you cannot uninstall it easily because it is surveillance hardware, not software
Love it, More competition the better.
I hope you folks are also working on an XR3 for next gen VR headsets as well.
will those powerful chips come to tablets or only laptops?
3:17 to be fair, you're only faster in multicore because you have 4 more physical cores than the M3 (12 vs 8), you should compare it with something like the M3 pro that also has 12 cores, plus on a single core score the M3 is still winning, but hey, competition are good for customers, so keep that up
nah, nice POV
but price is expected to be inline with m3 base so its fair
Now I want Snapdragon X Plus or elite + RTX
I believe it will be compatible with external gpu's
@@netnomad47 and it will be more AI
this would make best combo)))
You have CPU, GPU, NPU.
Maybe you could perhaps also add LPU (language processing unit) just like the one from Groq Inference Engine?
Wow I'm excited to use Snapdragon X NPUs PC, Thank you Qualcomm!
Wow! Im just screaming "wow" in my mind. Cant wait to get my hands on these
Wow indeed 😁
@@snapdragon As a gamer, I just want to know if it will be amazingly integrated with Descrete GPUs...for games that might not be powered by the Adreno GPU. Im so excited about all of this
@@immabraimoh4027 more like optimised for CAD aplications
Snapdragon X Elite 100%, the birth of a new AI generation. I'm very excited.
So are we 😁
Does snapdragon X Elite have a desktop version Or it's just for mobile pc like laptops? Ngl It'd be cool to have a desktop pc running on arm processor tho
Hoping these trickle over to desktop/mini pc's as well, I'd love something like this in my homelab as well as in a laptop. That said when will more technical info about these chips be released, not marketing fluff?
Why Desktop PC's? ARM will get crushed by a 14900 CPU paired with a 4090 GPU.
@@williamcopeland2617 Because not all workloads need a 14900k and a 4090 obviously. I have 2 low power mini pc's in my homelab right now, an AMD A9 and an intel N100. I also have some older (V2-4) Xeons and an Epyc server, it would be nice to have more low power options.
@@williamcopeland2617 i dont have a house to even put a desktop pc in so it better be on a laptop first with long battery life. there is no electricity where i stay.
The interesting thing no one talks about is the driver support. Windows is known that it could be supported for decades (looking at you, Windows XP - 2001 - 2019).
And Snapdragons are known for, well ..., "if you had one update in the year after you bought the device, consider yourself lucky".
Intel chips may be *hot* but with them I know I can sideload drivers for at least 10 years. Snapdragon has something to prove in this department.
It sounds really nice for a neural core tasks and 2D rendering like video and photo. But the thing I didn't hear a lot about was 3D rendering so I'm wondering how it is for gaming
I always thought, if Snapdragon can make such a good processor for mobile,Why they are not making it for computer. Finally they did it.
Hey Snapdragon , what about gaming on the ARM based laptops ? Can they run games or they are still in development ? Can it match GPU ?
GPU is a bit slower than PS4 Pro. About the same as Apple’s chips.
So I think 80-90 fps in high settings ?
Always snapdragon ❤❤❤❤
🫶
Why was it not done with the m3 processor in the battery life comparison
Will the NPU support AI features similar to Nvidia RTX like Nvidia Broadcast AI based Noise cancellation, Background Removal and Eye Correction ?
Key Ingredients for a presentation,
1. Compare it with Apple
2. Slap AI for everything!
3. show results for photo & video, audio editing apps alone & ignoring other areas (as if the world revolves around these editing apps alone)
4. promises promises and promises
The point is this laptop is focused on business where ARM and IA are requirements. Wait a few more years until they ship one of this processors made for home users.
"hello, hi, i am under the water!" vibe... 😂
*Hi Snapdragon, do optimize your processor for the Android studio too. Eagerly waiting for the launch*
Wish you well with your launch, but not straight shooting when use a graph with one axis relative performance with no units of measurement whatsoever. And what is the definition of ISO power you keep using?
Can somebody name any real app except background blurring that utilizes "AI" power
Finally it is an end of era for potato webcam quality 😂😂😂
Does the processor support MS SQL Server, PowerBI Desktop, etc and other enterprise-grade software and applications?
Can this be paired with gpu in a laptop
Heavenly 😵💫 this will change computer's future
No doubt about it 😎
wow, looking forward
Same here 😎
Will this work with Sony Vegas? It'd be cool to use it for video production.
The question oryon cpu coming to snapdragon 8 gen 4 will boost the performance by how much?
These chips can do everything but be in a device on a store shelf 😂😂
Farewell x86
finally , it had to happen faster , dont know why took them so long
arm is for laptops only
@@MLTAKOS arm is also found on servers. Amazon Graviton, Nvidia Grace, Google Axion, Microsoft Cobalt, Ampere Altra, etc.
x86 CPUs will probably be still around for more demanding applications, but this looks very interesting for mobile devices.
@@MLTAKOSfor now, yes. It won't make sense to have a different arch for desktop in the long run, and x86 just can't win that battle.
When is support for Adobe Creative Cloud Apps coming ?
Will it run ERP softwares like SAP ?
I don’t think you said AI enough. I only counted 56
Audacity? Is this all you offer to musicians at the moment? Where FL Studio, Ableton, Studio One? where are the really popular programs?
This is the first generation chip thats supposed to run on Windows on Arm. Those companies all are not aware of this yet. Once the products actually hit the market is when companies will start making programs for it because people will start demanding it from them by reaching out. It's all about demand
We're continuing to optimize new creator apps for the platform all the time, stay tuned.
Now we want a more powerful version for desktiops (small form factor desktops will very much appreciate some arm based chipsets)
Can it give battery life like m3 powered MacBooks tho?
Plez dont be overpriced
Don't let them know about apple.
It probably will be. Microsoft will be the first to launch this and they always price things way high in the sky. And everyone else will just lower it slightly. My guess is $1000-$2000 laptops.
will cost 1 dollar/AI
700-800 for X Plus and 1200+ for X elite is good spot.
How about Linux Support?
It seems Qualcomm partnered with Linaro for upstreaming the Linux support.
@@LivingLinux hopr they really do that clearly. Like which device fully functional, which distro is supported? If not how to port to other distro? And power/tdp control.
@@immortalmyth5685 Mainline Linux, so all distros can include it. They already showed Debian on the X Elite.
If X Elite is 23W, then X Plus is 17W (23/12*10 = 19W, 19/3.8*3.4 = 17W)
There will be "X" version, (bronze color)? Would be perfect at 9W for fanless laptops.
Can it emulate x86 applications on your ARM architecture? I'm asking because I'm developing on an old windows software.
No upgradable RAM, no upgradable storage, zero repairablity, More e-waste. RIP PC
Just wait for Lenovo to drop this in a thinkpad.
Let's go 💪
are we able to see its comaptibility with nvidia gpu's?
Is it Available on Desktop PC?
Hey Snapdragon, tell me an x86 joke.
😂😂😂
Wish y'all were confident in saying that the X Elite also slightly outperforms M3 Pro on multi-core (and it does, 15.6k vs 15.1k on benchmarks). Just saying it outdoes the M3 isn't really special for the best chip you're pushing
Actually, it is an incredible achievement. Although M3 is the base model of M3 family, it is the processor with the best performance-per-watt (PPW) in the world, and efficiency is measured according to PPW, not performance per core. The M3 Pro and Max are indeed more powerful than M3, but the performance increase is not proportional to the increased TDP, so the PPW is worse. And also very important, the M3 Pro and X Elite are almost tied regarding multicore performance when the M3 Pro has a ~+50% TDP compared to X Elite (both with 12 cores) and, to add insult to injury, the first is built using a more advanced process node (lithography) from TSMC, the N3, while the second uses N4P (less than 10% slower PPW vs N3).
@@marcelinoverazanidesouzawell it's the most efficient but it's not the best performing that goes to Intel and AMD
Hi will this be able to run windows 11 or will it still be android ?
Yes but what about gaming? Will it work with a dedicated gpu?
BAD Presentation, though I never tried to do one.
Does it support AI processing?
Yes, it does!
Oh yeah 😎
16:54 - Audacity doesn't have an ARM native executable yet. Is this coming? Or is what you presented an x86 app that will run in emulation?
make dual android + windows mode possible with elite soc for phones with 16-24gb
also, work with framework & clevo to release laptops with swappable ARM SOC+memory boards for futureproof upgradability.
how about gaming? can we in stall steam or XBOX gamepass ?
Yes you can... But don't expect great results. It's barely able to run games on 1080p at 30fps. It's an AI chip not a gaming one.
Yes. Chips iGPU is better than most but still limiting. The chip does also allow discrete GPUs so hopefully we get some later this year with X Elite & an RTX chip.
@@bihazards I'm afraid that's not gonna happen. Snapdragon & Microsoft are adamant on making this their proud moment. And Nvidia cards will still eat up power like crazy, devouring the best ability of these chips. "battery performance"
So... Maybe next generation. But not this year.
You can install all Windows apps. Software that's not compiled for ARM will have an emulation layer to serve.