Tuning a snare drum in 60 seconds | Elevation Worship
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That is really far from being "high" or "cracking"
Bro had 60 seconds chilll
chilll yo
5 or 6 turns in each lug and your set for that nice crack.
it’s for worship 🤷🏼♂️
@@pouchairsoft good point actually
the most unrealistic part is him not searching for his drum key for the first 50 seconds
I literally can't find mine rn ☹️
This is so on-point. I'm a bassist, and I always carry 2 spare instrument cables, 2 sets of guitar strings, a spare guitar strap, 2x 9-volt batteries...and a drum key. Every second or third gig, seems like some moron forgot, broke, or lost their at the gig. 😊 Typically, whomever I bailed out with my "survival kit" gives me their share of the tips.
And the snare stand is open ?
I can literally never find my drum key. Whenever I find it it's always by the kick pedal. Never fails to make me rip the room apart
@@ReidTheRulesGuy i keep mine on my key ring
Snare wires sound loose
Hate tuning my snare…. Thats exactly what my snare sounds like until I dampen it with my wallet. It’s poop.
It's how it's supposed to be. You're supposed to use moon jell to dampen it 🤦🏿♂️
@@kingvontheist5436 Moon jell is to dampen overtones. Has nothing to do with the tightness of the snare wires
@@jakefromstatefarm6205 💀 That's why you don't listen to a saxophonist give advice on percussion instruments
Maybe the bottom head aint tight enough too
I'm convinced 90% of the people in the comment section have never been within 5 feet of a drum.
Why?
Yah he just needs to tighten the snair chain a little bit
I'm convinced if you knew anything about tuning drums you would know this is completely the wrong approach and it's still sounded like garbage. That tune job would last through half a song. But you would know that if you had been within 5 feet of a drum
@D Reichert I said this because people are saying things like "I didn't know you needed to tune drums" or something stupid like "now do that between songs". Of course I know how tuning a drum works, I mess around with my snare all the time.
@D Reichert Also yes I know this wasn't a good approach. It sounded alright to me, but sound is subjective.
That is the lowest "high" snare drum I've ever heard.
And the most out of tune "tune" I've ever heard lol.
he had 60s chiiillll
I believe in tuning my drums like lug nuts on a tire. Opposites so the head stretches evenly. Just my 2 cents
That’s How I learned it’s supposed to be… if they learned from a music teacher. I’m sure this method works ok in a pinch but opposite sides for most accurate tuning
I came here to say that
If the head doesn't 'stretch evenly' it won't be in tune
I was taught this not only to keep the head evenly tensioned, but also spread the forces out evenly amongst the lugs/shell.
@@jBun12 this. Shell and rim can warp slightly for uneven pressure around the head. The head stretching evenly is barely an issue
As a drummer for 26 years, you're going to destroy your heads fast without having a consistent lug altering pattern😅. Strainer needs adjusted. That snare sounds like mud😢
Def got to tighten the strainer. Can't imagine when the amps get plugged in 😢😅😮
I came to the comment section to say the same thing… 😂
Old wives tale, so is the other guy saying you'll "warp the rim and drum". This is only true when switching heads and its only to make tuning easier, so is pushing hard with both hands to break up a brand new bead while doing it. If you go to any good studio or watch any road-weathered tech, once general tension is attained, you tune each lug to each other, you won't be doing the star pattern. A studio will sometimes go clockwise with a small keyboard and tone match. Also haven't seen anyone mention tuning the reso head as important. Anyone know without Googling if or when you tune the reso head higher, lower, or identical to the batter head? Surely all these experts do....
@@doublesynchrohelix8613 for snares you crank the reso head so that you get a good snare response. Batter head on snares you can tune to whatever tuning you like it. For toms, I like it simple with matching batter and reso for frequencies. It’s sounds too good to be true but it works haha. I generally tune batter and then reso for toms.
You don’t play enough if your heads are wearing out faster strictly to lug pattern
When you trigger everything, it doesn't matter how it is tuned.
It definitely still does
Lol not true, head tension plays a massive part in rebound
entirely untrue
It wouldn’t, except elevation doesn’t trigger anything.
@@Crazymelvis that is 100% false they absolutely do lol
Ah yes, I also disregard everything except slightly tightening the batter head when tuning a snare.
Snarewire? No, never been there.
@@Druid_Plow the bottom head tension can be ignored. It is only there for aesthetics.
@@lentzintl yeah you actually don’t even need a bottom snare head
Easy
@@Druid_Plowu still use one of those?
This is the type of video that causes the audience to be confused
I always start with the bottom head. Table top tight, snare wires loose and then the top head start from finger tight and evenly come up till it suits the song. With the bottom head super tight and snare wires loose, the top head will sound good no matter what.
Finally!!
You are absolutely right. This yt short is just bs
My guy never pressed once on the head
Here’s a real simple way, bottom head table top tight, top head tighten it to feel. Swear it sounds good every time
TF is table top tight?
How tight should the bottom head be? If you were to measure it by full turns.
Truly amazing what more a percussionist can learn about the instruments besides the music.
I think he should tune the bottom head and also tighten the snare wires a lot
Just throwing it out there, I’m never gonna get this guy to tune any of my kits, let alone any of my snares
Didn’t test bottom head pitch first, okay. That would have been my first step.
this is the millenial version of doing it.
If my drum tech saw me tuning my tenors like that back in the day it might’ve been the first and only backhand he ever gave to a student.
Lars would stopped by the first five seconds for St. Anger
As a drummer myself, I reccomend you skip across the drum when you tune it. So, when you tune it, go across and on the first lug pick a direction to go. If you just tune around you can warp the drum head.
I’ve never knew you can tune a drum 😮 Cool to know
I keep my dad's(who has passed) drum key on my keychain because why not.
I keep a drum key on my key chain as well. If I'm at a gig i'll have my keys with me so its guaranteed ill have a drum key with me too
Keep going bruh, give us that St. Anger sound!
and that's why you always start with the reso head, especially on snare drums.
this was the most elevation worship video i may have ever seen
Please elaborate?
@@Jonathan-md7rb he doesn’t have to, he is absolutely correct
This is a good way to warp a new head. You should also be tightening the lugs by going across, not in a circle.
My technique is crank the snare head and I can then put the batter head at any tension I want. The next thing is making sure the snare wires aren’t too tight.
Pick a lug, match to the 180 opposite. Pick a lug to left or right from original. Comepletrle a 360
What about the resonant bottom head
He had the drum kind of in tune there, then he did a few last moment tension adjustments on seemingly random rods, and took it right back way out of tune. You can hear the oscillating high pitched frequencies, similar to a guitar string being tuned after striking a harmonic. I couldn’t make sense of his tuning pattern after his first couple of cycles around the drum, but I wasn’t hearing what he was hearing. Anyway, it’s a good lesson on why you shouldn’t attempt to tune a drum in under a minute, I suppose. Thanks. 👍
Bro is destroying the head with his tightening pattern
⭐️ please don’t tune around lugs randomly 😒
Since a star patterns so hard
Most important part to tune first on any drum and the reso side. If the reso head is fkd, the snare will sound like garbage no matter what you do. But if the reso is cranked to as far as it can go without chocking, the batter side will sound good even at finger tight
Pearl Omar Hakim snare should have a higher tone that should have tightened the bottom head as well. I had that snare for years and your right it should "crack" I'd say another 60secs and you'd have it
Omar's snare is fabulous at any tuning especially high .top 5 fav right there African Mahagony
I don’t tune like that at all. I make everything even by hand tuning first, feel the pressure in each lug so it’s even before cross tuning it to the tone of the drum. Then that’s where I start fine tuning. Making every lug pressure even and cross tuning would give the head a more even surface tension across the drum head.
Omar hakim signature snaredrum👌
While this is a good way of tuning the batter head, this is not a high tuning, nor is it an optimal sound at all. If you're going for crack, I'd suggest tightening the snare wire, tuning the reso head(I don't do this as often as the batter head, but it's an essential part of tuning a drum) and optionally dampening the snare a tiny bit, unless you're using a pre-dampened head.
Hi, nice tuning, may i know what's the size of that hats?
Funny story, I'll get it close without even hitting it with a stick
I'll tune it close by sense of smell
Then I'll employ the stick for the fine tuning
This is so funny
I like to make it really loose then use my fingers on each lug bc then they will be even and then use half turns! you will have even tuning every time
It sounded like it did resonate when he said it was starting to
Man did him dirty giving him such a low starting point
As a complete newbie drummer, I've come to a realization:
Tune your own darn snare the way you darn want.
I understand the pitch matching to start off with and get the shell to resonate for sure. But after that, if you want it to crack, you gotta pick it up more and more and just keep taking it a few steps up gradually until you find the right feel, sensitivity and tone from it that you’re looking for.
So basically he just should’ve kept going further with it. But I guess I understand if you only have 60 secs 🤷🏽♂️
sound like the suspense in a movie is increasing
I like how it's like tuning a guitar by ear. It has that same woo woo woo sound until the 2 parts sound alike
Cross-tuning is the most effective way to tune a drum.
Loosen ALL THE WAY. Then, hand-tighten, until you can't simply loosen the lug by hand. Then two turns of the keys each time (across from each other) as you go around the drum. Minor adjustments will be needed. 1/4, 1/2 turns. It's not rocket science. But, this guy couldn't tuna fish.
So just turn every screw a couple times? What a genius!
The snare wire is an easy fix with great impact but I like the reso head to be pretty much steel hard. That's where I can work with the batter side
It helps that it was almost even when you started
The best way is to start with the reso side and crank it… then crank the batter head
I would’ve started by checking the bottom head. I did like the end result but that’s far from high, crisp and cracking.
"So it probably gets me pretty high on crack"
Yall are too much 😂😂😅
1: his pattern is fine. He moves across the drum and is cranking pretty evenly.
2: pitch matching got very very close considering time constraints.
3: yes, obviously not tuning the bottom head is an L.
4: yes, the snare strands are loose
He did decent for only having 60 seconds. Better than a lot of us would have done with the same time limit.
The secret is in the bottom head 💯💯💯
U need to tighten in a star pattern like a car tire or it will go outa tune after one song
It works for 60 seconds.
That's about as long as that tune will hold
Wait, your tone it Clockwise w/o alternating opposite lugs? My percussion teacher taught me to tune the opposite lug of the one I just tuned as I rotate around the head.
Sounds wonderful 😂
I tend to start with the bottom head first.
If you have a tight, properly tuned bottom head, you can basically do anything with the top head and it won’t sound bad. ✅
This is how I tune my vinnie paul pearl lol
Two things. Tuning in cross lug is important and if you tune the top head, you must tune the bottom.
Alright.. give my man another 60 on the clock
Im sure all these expert commentors know (without Google's help) if or when you tune the reso head and if you match identical or when you would want to go higher or lower than the batter head...? Also surprised to see how many folks think you fine tune a snare "alternating lugs" (which drummers call star pattern, apparently that's not learned yet either, and that pattern is used replacing heads only) And apparently the majority didn't know you're supposed to tune lugs to each other, which you would never attain via the star... The best part of comment sections to me is know-it-alls that are completely wrong, lol... seriously I enjoy it.
The lugs didn’t sound in tune to each other to me. Maybe that’s why as a guitar alway found it hard to tune drums. I guess there’s more tolerance in the pitch
This is actually part of why I quit drumming after high school. It took so much effort to tune drums and I felt like they never sounded good.
me not being able to hear the difference but going yup, yup, that's how you do it
You don't hear the pitch getting higher as he tightens the lugs?
@@gdawgs101 as a whole yes as the head gets tighter but I don't hear the difference lug to lug, I'm just broken that way
@@Good-Enuff-Garage Fair. I'm a musician, so I guess I'm just especially sensitive to small differences in pitch
@@gdawgs101 yeah, you are lucky I actually started out on keyboard then went to bass guitar than to drums, and had a doctor test my hearing cause I thought I was tone def and he goes ha ha you have perfect hearing you just don't have the talent of hearing perfect pitch, I had a friend in high school who would figure out theme songs to his favorite shows on a piano having zero formal training he had such a good ear and I would test him and try to trick him on what keys I would hit and he would guess them right every time
Hi to make a snare sound like I'm hitting a tin roof with rocks on it 😂
How tight to you tighten down the resonating side?
That’s the way I learn to tune drums. My dad also told me you can place your finger in the middle and hit the corner by the bolt and when all match give a try a boom 💥👌🏼👌🏼. I also can tune my electric bass by ear too
That Omar Hakim drum is REALLY EASY to tune.
And has a huge range. Great drum.
I was always taught ur supposed to move in a circle to the opposite peg from the one in front of what u are tuning
What I would do is just crank every lug as high as possible
So I don't have to use a star pattern to prevent uneven stretching?
I want my 60 secs back please… I think I lost a few brain cells reading the comments also 😂
Hey buddy is that a pearl African mahogany Omar hakim signature series snare?
The bottom head and snare tension is as important…at least another 20 seconds needed.
bottom head is honestly more important so id say at least another 2 minutes for that. Then the snare wires need tightened too so add another 15 seconds and because this is a quick job it definitely needs some sort of moon gel or a wallet
Pretty swampy sounding for a 13" drum
He had 60 seconds man
@@joandrumz3176 and it still sounds like shit. Doesn't change fax
I just realized I drum yourguyses songs at school 😮
Is that a Yamaha sonny emory signature?
That's the Omar Hakim signature snare......I know....I have 1....✊🏾💯💯💯💯💯💯🤎🤎🤎🤎
Everybody in the comments complaining about how he tuned that snare and saying he tuned it wrong and I'm over here recalling the many different methods I've seen and learned for tuning snares and drums in general and thinking to myself, isn't music, a sub genre of art, all subjective anyway? Meaning there's no right or wrong way? Yea, some music is more pleasing to the ears, like zeppelin, Beatles. Eagles, doors, Joplin, skynyrd an Hendrix. Pretty much anything from 60s to late 70s, some 80s wrapping up in the 90s, and so on whilst other music isn't so pleasing to the ears like grunge. Modern pop/rock throwing rap in there as well... now, I'll set back and watch as the majority of you tell me I'm wrong. Whilst simultaneously telling dude in the video he's wrong.. 🤷🏽
yes, do that for all 12 songs when doing live performance.
make people wait 30 minutes for tuning break after each song.
What abt the bottom. I tune the top according to how hard I want the drum to feel. Bottom is where I actually tune
But can you properly tension a drum head by only tensioning the top head?
dang it’s like he was ready!
Le quedó como las yeas😮😮
The old 13" Pearl Omar Hakim signature. I've got one of those. But I wouldn't have this guy tune it in 60 seconds lol.
I’ll definitely use this the next time I need to tune a snare drum (I play guitar)
Drummers can never play off key :)
damn im a guitarist and I didnt even know you had to tune drums
I tune my drums more than my guitarist tunes his guitar...
@@vincentzito3933 oh lord
pro tip here. every non electronic instrument needs tuning.
my pleasure.
Some pro players will tune the whole set to actual notes in whatever key the band mostly plays in. Example- Danny Carey will start with his bass drum and tune it to "D" then continue tuning the rest of the set in the key of D. Not tuning all drums in D but follow the rest of the D scale
@@leeland446 ... I play 60's and 70's Rock. Everything from Hang on Sloopy and I Saw her standing there to Radar Love and zep's Rock and Roll... I tend to tune my snare a little deeper with a nice crack, I like my bass to be a dead deep thump, and I tend to tune my toms a little lower to give me a deep powerful sound. All my toms and bass drum have reso heads.
How many people watched this who never realized that drums could be tuned ?
I don't know why I expected a bigger payoff at the end... "Yep, sounds like a snare..."
Easiest thing to tune for me is the snare and bass drum, toms on the other hand are a damn nightmare
No crack just sizzle
Clean, nice, and simple. However, I wonder how the new Nord Stage 4 will sound for worship.
just got my first snare drum for my bday and i swear it’s even lower than this but i don’t have a drum key so i have to wait to go buy one 😭
Thanks for the video!
First step really is crank the bottom head. That’s always step 1
By crank, how many full turns would you suggest? If I wanted more of a mid to deep sounding snare drum.
@@frankkortez3569 I don’t really measure by amount of turns, but it even for a deep sounding snare you want the bottom to be pretty tight. The head should never stretch far enough to the point that the bearing edge is beyond the hoop obviously. But the bottom head should definitely be tight tight.