I recognized and remembered many details from my childhood, when we drove to Southern France every summer for vacation on these motorways (still through the tunnels in central Lyon, then turning right to the river). Unfortunately, the video ends just at Feyzin and does not show the huge cylindric oil tanks at the refinery before leaving Lyon towards Marseille. You should show a few seconds more.
Nice video. What was the reason for those absurd speed limit changes? Those 6 lane stretches with shoulders could easily be 90km/h. I expect widespread disobedience in the future
When did this change occur? I drove through Lyon in 2016, it was still the A6 and A7 then. As of 30.11.2019, Google Maps still shows the routes as A6 and A7.
Officially, the change occurred at the transfer to the Lyon metropolitan government on 20/01/2017. I presume the actual road sign change occured some time after that. The video was recorded in August 2019.
@@HHoef thinking the same maybe they are changing it because the rest of the lights, except the one that the are at the beginning of Lyon on A6 from Paris which they apparently tooked away too, still in the positions.
There are multiple reasons why Lyon , much like many other large urban areas have gone to unlit sections at night . The biggest reason is millions of euros in savings although they try to pass this under the guise of co2 reductions as well as better road safety due to forcing drivers to slow down in the obscurity . This idea originally came about from Paris , following regular theft of copper cables making street lighting out of service . They noticed a reduction in night time accidents as a result . Lyon is also undergoing a programme of reducing street lighting in the city centre areas for ecological reasons and wildlife .
A nice bit of history with the numbering there but surely it would have been better to give it one single number ie M67. Is M going to be a new classification throughout France or just Lyon.
It seems to be a new classification that will be inside all metropolitan areas, the same "M" numbers can be seen inside Nice metropolitan area. It seems that Bordeaux Metropolitan area is getting this classification aswell
@@supermario3459 Montpellier also has a metropolitan route. I assume more will be implemented in the future. So far Nice is the only region that has a large number of these Metropolitan Routes.
But the metropolitan roads (roads that starts with an "M") are everywhere all around the UK, they're even all highways. In fact, all of the highways in the UK are all metropolitan roads.
@@candyneige6609 Over here in the UK we don't have any metropolitan roads and we only really use M, A and B Mx or Ax(M) means motorway, Ax means a first class non motorway road and Bx means a second class non motorway road There's also other prefix letters used (Cx, Dx, Ux for example) but these aren't supposed to appear on signs. They are known as third class or unclassified roads. An oddity though is the new town of Milton Keynes which has H(orizontal) and V(ertical) roads signed around it.
I guess France really is the global capital of graffitis on the infrastructure. Maybe they realised how Lyon was made in ETS2 and so want to do the same, and the 1st step was to downgrade to Metro Expressway, then one day to boulevard? 🤔
Because A6 and A7 pass too closely to the Lyon city centre so they decided to reclassify them and turn them into avenues with public transports' lanes.
Max Surely the obvious solution is to demolish the bit through the city centre (which can happen soon enough in my opinion) and renumber the leftover bits of autoroute with three digit numbers such as A455. However for the demolition to happen the Lyon Bypass must be redesigned to cope with extra traffic.
A sweeping, and inaccurate statement. You only see graffiti in french cities, of which there are relatively few considering the country's size, France is mainly rural. In my experience many US cities have a huge issue with graffiti, as well as general dereliction and garbage, large areas of LA and Chicago are pretty awful.
I guess that’s just wishful thinking at its finest - Americans with their potholed and crumbling concrete can only envy the French with their baby butt smooth motorways
Lyon beautiful city !
Great upload!👍
the song is dope!
I recognized and remembered many details from my childhood, when we drove to Southern France every summer for vacation on these motorways (still through the tunnels in central Lyon, then turning right to the river). Unfortunately, the video ends just at Feyzin and does not show the huge cylindric oil tanks at the refinery before leaving Lyon towards Marseille. You should show a few seconds more.
Nice ! A13 and A29 are good too
Nice video. What was the reason for those absurd speed limit changes? Those 6 lane stretches with shoulders could easily be 90km/h. I expect widespread disobedience in the future
I'm completely agree ...i'm living in lyon and i Nevers respect this stupid limitation
realdeal350 Are you talking about the 70 km/h limit?
@@cyril4046 yes
To improve traffic flow...
You need less space between vehicles, and cars are traveling more homogeneous.
It is mostly to avoid pollution...because they think reducuing speed limit by 20km/h would decrease Co2 emission
Did you do the new A89/A466/ widened A46/new A432?
Also do the A65
When did this change occur? I drove through Lyon in 2016, it was still the A6 and A7 then. As of 30.11.2019, Google Maps still shows the routes as A6 and A7.
Officially, the change occurred at the transfer to the Lyon metropolitan government on 20/01/2017. I presume the actual road sign change occured some time after that. The video was recorded in August 2019.
Good 👍. What do you use as software to edit your videos?
More left lane hoggers in France then in the Netherlands...
is there an application for video editing?
looking for that tracklist guy
ALLEZ L'OL 🔴🔵💪
MDR je prefere Le PSG
Sauf qu'il faut passer par le contournement Est pour voir le stade :)
I wonder why they removed all the lights off of the M7?
Exactly my question, it doesnt really make sense to make a road less safe
@@HHoef thinking the same maybe they are changing it because the rest of the lights, except the one that the are at the beginning of Lyon on A6 from Paris which they apparently tooked away too, still in the positions.
Because France becomes a poor country. Looks like africa. No public lighting, no public service...
There are multiple reasons why Lyon , much like many other large urban areas have gone to unlit sections at night . The biggest reason is millions of euros in savings although they try to pass this under the guise of co2 reductions as well as better road safety due to forcing drivers to slow down in the obscurity . This idea originally came about from Paris , following regular theft of copper cables making street lighting out of service . They noticed a reduction in night time accidents as a result .
Lyon is also undergoing a programme of reducing street lighting in the city centre areas for ecological reasons and wildlife .
A nice bit of history with the numbering there but surely it would have been better to give it one single number ie M67. Is M going to be a new classification throughout France or just Lyon.
It seems to be a new classification that will be inside all metropolitan areas, the same "M" numbers can be seen inside Nice metropolitan area.
It seems that Bordeaux Metropolitan area is getting this classification aswell
@@supermario3459 Montpellier also has a metropolitan route. I assume more will be implemented in the future. So far Nice is the only region that has a large number of these Metropolitan Routes.
@@EuropeanRoads Lille also have metropolitan roads implemented. I've checked that earlier
But the metropolitan roads (roads that starts with an "M") are everywhere all around the UK, they're even all highways.
In fact, all of the highways in the UK are all metropolitan roads.
@@candyneige6609 Over here in the UK we don't have any metropolitan roads and we only really use M, A and B
Mx or Ax(M) means motorway, Ax means a first class non motorway road and Bx means a second class non motorway road
There's also other prefix letters used (Cx, Dx, Ux for example) but these aren't supposed to appear on signs. They are known as third class or unclassified roads.
An oddity though is the new town of Milton Keynes which has H(orizontal) and V(ertical) roads signed around it.
👍
2:58
I guess France really is the global capital of graffitis on the infrastructure.
Maybe they realised how Lyon was made in ETS2 and so want to do the same, and the 1st step was to downgrade to Metro Expressway, then one day to boulevard? 🤔
Do more for public transport, less for the car
@@ambe5179 100%.
Hand in hand with Spain. Here too, many infrastructures are disgustingly graffitied.
Not M6 and M7. It's called A6 and A7
It was resignalled and reclassified. They want to turn it into some urban avenue or someshit.
when correcting someone it is imperative that you first check if your own information is still up to date
Because A6 and A7 pass too closely to the Lyon city centre so they decided to reclassify them and turn them into avenues with public transports' lanes.
Max Surely the obvious solution is to demolish the bit through the city centre (which can happen soon enough in my opinion) and renumber the leftover bits of autoroute with three digit numbers such as A455. However for the demolition to happen the Lyon Bypass must be redesigned to cope with extra traffic.
@@joshbostock4371 Did you mean the A46 and A432 "autoroutes" ?
France has huge graffiti issue. The United States is much cleaner
A sweeping, and inaccurate statement. You only see graffiti in french cities, of which there are relatively few considering the country's size, France is mainly rural. In my experience many US cities have a huge issue with graffiti, as well as general dereliction and garbage, large areas of LA and Chicago are pretty awful.
@@busterrabbit Even parts of Seattle has some garbage problems.
I guess that’s just wishful thinking at its finest - Americans with their potholed and crumbling concrete can only envy the French with their baby butt smooth motorways
2:57
0:54