@@putnamehere3803 I was a crewman and drove for about 3 years. I blew up one engine but the only time I got towed for any length of time was because of a gearbox failure and the replacement failed after about 2 hours. That was on an FTX in Germany September 89..... I got towed for 4 days, the recovery tank had a brake failure and crashed. That was the closest to dying I've ever been. One day before my 21st birthday
@@Matt-rq3bu Apart from what I previously stated in regard to automotive and protection the Fighting compartment was basically the same. The only major improvement was the TOGs system which was phenomenal and completely changed the vehicles fighting capability.
@@MichaelZZRrider Yeah, I remember someone stating that it was basically Chieftain, (referring to all the equipment in the crew compartment) but in a new skin, with some improvements as you stated, armour/protection, a new engine, TOGS, etc... Your channel looks great by the way, seems like you've got some impressive machines yourself. :)
Served in Detmold from '67 to '70 with 20 Armd Bde. Never forget the sound of this tank. Very underpowered originally but still a formidable "beast" which kept REME up all night!!!! I rode DR with a squadron of Royals (as was) for a week on exercise once. Best days of my Army life. Great bunch of down to earth lads. The photo was from '66 on Woolacombe sea front. Also more BDOML!!!
You've just evoked some memories. I was in 1 Div mid to late 70s, when we went full armoured under Stanier. The sound of Chieftains and AFV 432s will be with me until I die.
I think just the sound would make the enemy crap themselves! I can't imagine how terrifying hearing one of these would be in the fog and not knowing quite where it is!
The L60 was full of problems at first, but they were eventually sorted out after the ''Belzona'' and ''Sundance'' projects. It took millions of pounds (sterling) to do it and about 13 different marks to get there (Mark 1A to Mark 13A). Power was also increased from an initial 650hp in the Mark 2 Chieftain to 840hp and durable enough to last 4,000 track miles in the later Chieftains. A big help came from Weslake Engineering who improved the exhaust system (two-stroke engines are very much dependent on exhaust design that has an expansion box as well as needing back-pressure) They also increased the rev limit from an initial 2,100 to 2,250. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyland_L60 (read ''Performance'' paragraph).
It wasn't really the engine that gave us problems....It was all the ancillary shit they attached to it! Very rarely did be break down because the actual engine that was broken. Besides, That's a bridge layer or whatever, real Chieftains had turrets lol!
@@davepritchard283 You are right Dave but the packs in the 70's really were bad but by the early 80's they had improved considerably due to the Sundance Mod
Never understood why they thought they needed to fit Smoke Dischargers to the Chieftain bearing in mind the quantity of smoke that the L60 discharged in normal operation, with a choice of smells, coolant or oil or both sometimes .....lol Fantastic exhaust sound though, perhaps the best ever fitted to any vehicle, in my humble opinion ......
It's not revving high it just has combustion more frequent which is why it's a 2 stroke. It made a maximum 750 Hp at 2100 rpm Listen to the 2 stroke Detroit diesels as well
Had the good fortune to be working in the engine research department at Leyland Motors when the Sundance upgrades were being evaluated, they sounded just as good on the test bench.
@@carbonslowmotion4973 Hi, sorry no, it might have been before my time. I was in the engine research department 1975-2003 but they actually began the development of the L60 in the late 1950's. I do have a lot of official Leyland photos of the L60 and its components and I wrote a series of articles on the story of the L60 for The Leyland Society magazine. After Leyland went bust in 1993 we continued to have involvement in the L60, reworking engines for the Oman Army.
That sound forms a part of my "miss-spent Youth": standing in the dark (usually on a public road), alerting the civil traffic that something very large was coming and unlikely to stop for them; and no, I was not eating a banana at the time, although I was, of course, always checking the immaculate turnout of my No.2 Dress ;)
It’s the supercharger that creates the unique sound. A pain in the arse to crew though. Although you do learn how to make do and mend ie the green bailing twine from the drivers cab underneath the turret floor into the engine compartment to engage the solenoid when it jams. And the crowbar onto the starter. Filthy stinky things they were. But you can steer them at idle which is good for track bashing or a small hangar
We had these in the REME and ours were driven and maintained properly and lasted 3 x longer the the tankers, but the tankers were always feckin there's up because they rarely used them properly!
I was based at Soltau, 80 - 83….worked at Barrl sidings on the SLTA….i loaded Chieftains all the time…..an engine sound to die for….stills gives a hard on today….😂
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In the Seventies in BAOR on multinational friendship parades you always knew where the Brits were by the appalling smoke cloud from vehicle exhausts! They tended to put us last!
@@davidravenscroft9235 MK’s well you were lucky! We spent a morning having drained the oil from an RL that wanted a total rebuild. We stuck a gunner in it and he drove from parade to lunch with 10 mins NAFFI. The bloody thing was as well at the end of it as it was at the beginning! We had one MK that had an electric tow start which had a rather weird alternator charging controller on it. Needless to say no EMER!
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Being a vertically opposed engine the top crank had troubles getting oil when they started and would shorten the lifespan substantially, so they implemented a system where the pumps had to run for x amount of time before the engine would even crank, and it would need to crank for x amount of time before the system would let the fuel enter the cylinder. Love the Chief, no matter her troubles she's a mean sounding hard hitting commie killing machine.
"Commie killing machine" lol Iranian Chieftains got massacred by the Iraqi *T-62's* during the Operation Nasr. Imagine if Iraqis had T-64's which are of the same period as the Iranian Chieftains... While I, being a monarchist hate commies I have to respect the Russian military equipment, at least during the Cold War, before all of these smart computers that gave Western machines a slight, maybe even a huge advantage..who knows. And I agree that Chieftain is probably the best sounding tank with probably the worst and most unreliable engine(alongside the Soviet T-80 turbine engine).
@@user-rh3to9cu4x The Iranian Chieftains were deployed in a fashion not suited to any tank. They were asked to advance over open ground without support. Also maintenance is suspected to have been neglected due to the revolution. In other engagements during the war it aquited itself well. The T62 had far inferior armament and armour and in a one on one would stand little chance against Chieftain
It may have been unreliable but what a fantastic sound
Sounds amazing and can run on the cheapest of American wine.
Exactly what I was going to say.
Considering it could run on any thing that would burn it wasn't that unreliable
one of the best engine sounds EVER!
I served on these for 10 years, until I left in 2000. Gods, I miss my wagon.
Hang on, weren't you bagging the L60 out on another comment? I *fink* you were!
@@skylined5534 I don't doubt I was. The L60 was a piece of shit. Underpowered and unreliable. But the sound it made, oh my gods!!
I miss mine too.
i heard these things speed depended on the speed of the one towing it.
how much maintenance did you have to do on it 😂
@@putnamehere3803 I was a crewman and drove for about 3 years. I blew up one engine but the only time I got towed for any length of time was because of a gearbox failure and the replacement failed after about 2 hours. That was on an FTX in Germany September 89..... I got towed for 4 days, the recovery tank had a brake failure and crashed. That was the closest to dying I've ever been. One day before my 21st birthday
drove one of these for 3 years. loved ever oily minute of it
Did you try Challenger 1 or 2 and if you did, how did Chieftain compare to those two?
@@user-rh3to9cu4x I crewed both. The challenger 1 was a massive improvement in an automotive and protection sense.
@@MichaelZZRrider Anything else you could say about Chally 1? Really interested in it.
@@Matt-rq3bu Apart from what I previously stated in regard to automotive and protection the Fighting compartment was basically the same. The only major improvement was the TOGs system which was phenomenal and completely changed the vehicles fighting capability.
@@MichaelZZRrider Yeah, I remember someone stating that it was basically Chieftain, (referring to all the equipment in the crew compartment) but in a new skin, with some improvements as you stated, armour/protection, a new engine, TOGS, etc... Your channel looks great by the way, seems like you've got some impressive machines yourself. :)
Served in Detmold from '67 to '70 with 20 Armd Bde. Never forget the sound of this tank. Very underpowered originally but still a formidable "beast" which kept REME up all night!!!! I rode DR with a squadron of Royals (as was) for a week on exercise once. Best days of my Army life. Great bunch of down to earth lads. The photo was from '66 on Woolacombe sea front. Also more BDOML!!!
true😉
You've just evoked some memories. I was in 1 Div mid to late 70s, when we went full armoured under Stanier. The sound of Chieftains and AFV 432s will be with me until I die.
oh that bone chilling sound! never tire of that one
I think just the sound would make the enemy crap themselves! I can't imagine how terrifying hearing one of these would be in the fog and not knowing quite where it is!
former Challenger sound in War Thunder
Yeap and to this day they havent changed it
@@LimePartician they did now.
@@InfernoVolatilnoooo
@@bernardodino8978 yes they did, even for the vickers mk 3
the sound of my childhood, i grew up to these howling away over hohne and soltau ranges in germany
Can't keep the tank quiet? Just make it as terrifying to the enemy as possible! *
Leyland L60 has entered the groupchat*
I can imagine this thing really would terrify the piss out of the enemy howling across the landscape like that!
Registered with DVLA as a Leyland Chieftain. Brilliant!
Six cylinders Twelve pistons 😊
What an amazing sound! :')
It maybe has the worst engine(alongside T-80's turbine engine) but it certainly is the best sounding.
T80 tank?
The L60 was full of problems at first, but they were eventually sorted out after the ''Belzona'' and ''Sundance'' projects. It took millions of pounds (sterling) to do it and about 13 different marks to get there (Mark 1A to Mark 13A). Power was also increased from an initial 650hp in the Mark 2 Chieftain to 840hp and durable enough to last 4,000 track miles in the later Chieftains. A big help came from Weslake Engineering who improved the exhaust system (two-stroke engines are very much dependent on exhaust design that has an expansion box as well as needing back-pressure) They also increased the rev limit from an initial 2,100 to 2,250.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leyland_L60 (read ''Performance'' paragraph).
It wasn't really the engine that gave us problems....It was all the ancillary shit they attached to it! Very rarely did be break down because the actual engine that was broken. Besides, That's a bridge layer or whatever, real Chieftains had turrets lol!
@@davepritchard283 You are right Dave but the packs in the 70's really were bad but by the early 80's they had improved considerably due to the Sundance Mod
T 64 is best
Sounds incredible
Never understood why they thought they needed to fit Smoke Dischargers to the Chieftain bearing in mind the quantity of smoke that the L60 discharged in normal operation, with a choice of smells, coolant or oil or both sometimes .....lol
Fantastic exhaust sound though, perhaps the best ever fitted to any vehicle, in my humble opinion ......
Unique sound . Very clever you could never tell how many or from where they were coming from .
Memories of pack lifts in the rain and mud, and of course night, wouldn't have missed it for the world.
used to hear them from Kirkcudbright all the way over at Dundrennan range moving about a good 7-8 miles away what a fantastic sound they make 1970-80s
Love the army's new extra slim tow ropes
Someone's missing a washing line
MOD cutbacks
Das Monster klingt mega 💪💪💪
this tank sound bad ass
What tank doesn’t?
Oh wait...
*thinks of m1 Abraham’s*
-REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Such a beautiful engine note at those high revs..
It's not revving high it just has combustion more frequent which is why it's a 2 stroke. It made a maximum 750 Hp at 2100 rpm
Listen to the 2 stroke Detroit diesels as well
god damn it wizard why are you here
It’s really only reaching 2500-2700 rpm
@@bryanmartinez6600
Technically it is revving high as it's an opposing combustion chamber engine.
Had the good fortune to be working in the engine research department at Leyland Motors when the Sundance upgrades were being evaluated, they sounded just as good on the test bench.
Do you happen to have a photo of the engine which exploded on a test bed and almost went through the ceiling at leyland
@@carbonslowmotion4973 Hi, sorry no, it might have been before my time. I was in the engine research department 1975-2003 but they actually began the development of the L60 in the late 1950's. I do have a lot of official Leyland photos of the L60 and its components and I wrote a series of articles on the story of the L60 for The Leyland Society magazine. After Leyland went bust in 1993 we continued to have involvement in the L60, reworking engines for the Oman Army.
Quiet early morning in BAOR, silence broken by a Sqn of Chiefies leaving their hide at first light, a great sound from miles away.
Sound great 😮
That sound forms a part of my "miss-spent Youth": standing in the dark (usually on a public road), alerting the civil traffic that something very large was coming and unlikely to stop for them; and no, I was not eating a banana at the time, although I was, of course, always checking the immaculate turnout of my No.2 Dress ;)
there is nothing like the purr or roar of a leyland engine
It’s that off sound that makes it so much better
Sounds like one of those Tusken Raiders from Star Wars.
Ah this sounds so good
I swear white diesel smoke always sooo nice soo addictive smelling
What a sound!
It’s the supercharger that creates the unique sound.
A pain in the arse to crew though. Although you do learn how to make do and mend ie the green bailing twine from the drivers cab underneath the turret floor into the engine compartment to engage the solenoid when it jams.
And the crowbar onto the starter.
Filthy stinky things they were. But you can steer them at idle which is good for track bashing or a small hangar
Great sound like an aircooled engine in a combi vw
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Nice video chap this is my tank !
It was one of my favourite moments from the great forest steam fair. Will the tank be appearing at any other shows in the future?
James Crawford yes it will be at Somerset steam and county show this year driving around
+adam best you own a tank wow that's the sound of British thunder
When a F1 car and a tractor have kids.
Sweet new friend here to
We had these in the REME and ours were driven and maintained properly and lasted 3 x longer the the tankers, but the tankers were always feckin there's up because they rarely used them properly!
The engine rew is ASMR for my ears
Sweet.
Pack lift after pack lift after pack lift that was the chieftain. But the gun kit and the 120 gun was spot on for the time imo.
You drove one?
@@skylined5534 yes
Ohohoh very very nice
L60 ❤️
feels like a tiger roar... wow...
I was based at Soltau, 80 - 83….worked at Barrl sidings on the SLTA….i loaded Chieftains all the time…..an engine sound to die for….stills gives a hard on today….😂
Still sounds better than a C8 Z06.
smells like victory
If it breaks down in a good position that is
Were these engines smokey even when new?
The German V12 Diesel fitted to export Chieftains was so much more reliable
0:43 The tank suddenly turns into sport car
Used to scare the shit out of the grunts when the tanks were movinfgX country at night, no one knew where the where,,,
You are correct, Although loud it was difficult to determine where the sound cam from.
Even worse when you followed us into wooded copses, collapsing all the tree trunks on us.....😂😂😂 (Soltau ‘84)
So thats where War Thunder got the sounds for chieftans
Sounds like screaming Jimmy 😊
👌
If i was a russian soldier and suddenly heard the rewing sound of the engine i would shit myself
Leyland sound
Hello, is it OK to feature your clip in a my chanel for educational purposes (so-called temporary copyright.)? You can stop me from using your content at any time and it will be deleted immediately.
It will be credited in the description & comments section with your name. Thanks, MM
go for it! by law you can show it if you credit it with a water mark over the video in the uk
only thing I ever heard as good as that, was an air cooled 911 !
I wonder what it's army reg number was
Ma la leyland fa ancora motori?
someone pass me some kleenex
On it lad
0:47 for vrooooooooom
That cheiftain avre is an ex BATUS asset.
Ah ha, someone knows what they're talking about!. Former BATUS callsign 6D here!.
Or Warminster... Ex 6F🤣👍
I probably worked on her, if she was at batus, me and bob mckee (rip) I love that variation
It sounds cool but also like it's screaming in pain.
It's not in pain !!! It's telling you to run away , just as fast as your little legs will carry you ... Then Hide !!!👌👍👍👍👍
Sound like m52b25 🤣
In the Seventies in BAOR on multinational friendship parades you always knew where the Brits were by the appalling smoke cloud from vehicle exhausts! They tended to put us last!
Yeah, maybe. But when it came to gunnery competitions, the Chieftain won.
Glyn Jackanory.
And all that smoke was from the Bedford MKs!!!!!
@@davidravenscroft9235 MK’s well you were lucky! We spent a morning having drained the oil from an RL that wanted a total rebuild. We stuck a gunner in it and he drove from parade to lunch with 10 mins NAFFI. The bloody thing was as well at the end of it as it was at the beginning! We had one MK that had an electric tow start which had a rather weird alternator charging controller on it. Needless to say no EMER!
Dear, James, Please, can we use footage from your CZcams channel for our videos about military cars, trucks a other machines? We tag your channel as a source ,... thank you. :)
Yes of course! Thank you for asking
@@FordGT55concept thank you :)
Tissues please, going to sleep now
Exhaust fumes & unburnt diesel stinging your eyes 👀👍🏻
Unburnt diesel would be black, this is blue which indicates oil BUT it is a 2 stroke so you would expect that.
@@maxdavies9958 that's what I was thinking. Or maybe it was unburnt octane.
@@AdotLOM Hard to tell but yes that's definitely a possibility.
We lived in diesel, often covered in it and as for fumes, we were made of strong stuff! Ha! Ha!
Served Australian army well in Vietnam
...... This is a Cheiftain not a centurion hahah
Wrong tank chum they were centurion this is chieftain
You got the wrong tank my friend ....Centurian maybe....lol
0:44 Eargasm.
Bang.
Did you over-rev your mum's Micra again? Tsk-tsk.
Should never rev it cold like that!
Do they make Akrapovic exhaust for it?
Two stroke diesel???
Layland L60 multifuel 2 stroke. Fitted with a roots blower.
Why cant all these things happen in my country i can go n inhale diesel smokes n see it
A good way to blow your engine revving the bollocks off it like that
adam best in your dreams mate! It's a fucking dry sump diesel.
Yes but it's still 2 stroke
Being a vertically opposed engine the top crank had troubles getting oil when they started and would shorten the lifespan substantially, so they implemented a system where the pumps had to run for x amount of time before the engine would even crank, and it would need to crank for x amount of time before the system would let the fuel enter the cylinder. Love the Chief, no matter her troubles she's a mean sounding hard hitting commie killing machine.
"Commie killing machine" lol Iranian Chieftains got massacred by the Iraqi *T-62's* during the Operation Nasr. Imagine if Iraqis had T-64's which are of the same period as the Iranian Chieftains...
While I, being a monarchist hate commies I have to respect the Russian military equipment, at least during the Cold War, before all of these smart computers that gave Western machines a slight, maybe even a huge advantage..who knows. And I agree that Chieftain is probably the best sounding tank with probably the worst and most unreliable engine(alongside the Soviet T-80 turbine engine).
@@user-rh3to9cu4x The Iranian Chieftains were deployed in a fashion not suited to any tank. They were asked to advance over open ground without support. Also maintenance is suspected to have been neglected due to the revolution. In other engagements during the war it aquited itself well. The T62 had far inferior armament and armour and in a one on one would stand little chance against Chieftain
I know who owns that tank
Ok.
Way noisier than the Abrams
I know them engines smoke like no business but it looks like the cylinder liners have gone in that one, grey white smoke along with the normal stuff
Nearly every L60 was the same. Cylinder liners failed constantly.
@@thewomble1509
You worked on them? When?
No.... thats normal .... lol
There's another yellow flag waiting to happen!
high rev, low torque
Aah yes, the least reliable engine in history. This one looks like it runs like a champ though, and has that kick-ass sound to boot.
Least reliable engine? So this was made in the USA?
@@skylined5534 No you idiot, Its a Leyland engine from the UK...
Never got the miles in that a diesel needs due to MOD bean counters,also kept being fxxxed about with,so it's rep is a bit unfair
Sounds like Thomas the tank engine
How did a deaf guy hear this tank? Technology has come a long way.
Click bait: video started when engine was running.
not really the first engine running is a Donkey engine which starts the real engine also warms top the oil and coolant
Bonjour 🐕, quelle pollution je ne vois pas l'intérêt de faire tourner sur place un tel engins ! A part polluer ?.amitiés