Top 10 Strongest Pokémon in Gen 2!

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  • @smithplayspokemon
    @smithplayspokemon  Před 9 měsíci +24

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    • @Jelly_shy_guy_man
      @Jelly_shy_guy_man Před 9 měsíci

      Macop deez nuts

    • @epicmarioplayer45
      @epicmarioplayer45 Před 9 měsíci +1

      what's the romhacking software you use?

    • @JohnnyVincent420
      @JohnnyVincent420 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Smith i just want to say, i never played a rom hack, i love Pokémon and i had to play yours, im in love with it, please keep doing your great work for the Pokémon comunity, maybe one day after all the gen 1 and 2 work, you could do gen 3, im playing all your hacks in order too, much respect Smith i will 100% complete the rom thats how much i like it 👍

  • @liuxaun8385
    @liuxaun8385 Před 9 měsíci +114

    When your mom is saving money, she buys you a moon stone around the time you're at Goldenrod. It's not late at all

  • @Fire_Crotch
    @Fire_Crotch Před 9 měsíci +180

    I'll never forget first playing through Silver when it first released and thinking that raising my Machoke to level 100 would make it evolve into Machamp. Aahhh the good old days. I also thought raising my Onix to level 100 would turn it into the Crystal Onix from the show.

    • @H3XM4N1AC
      @H3XM4N1AC Před 3 měsíci +4

      @@RealMendontdeletecommentsI used to think sudowoodo was A LEGENDARY

    • @everybodywalktheDinosaur
      @everybodywalktheDinosaur Před 3 měsíci +3

      Dude it's so crazy me and you had the same experience lol my first level 100 pokemon was the machoke that chick trades you in goldenrod because of me not knowing you had to trade to evolve

    • @JohnnyVincent420
      @JohnnyVincent420 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Dont worry first time i got out of Goldenrod city, i went to ilex forest and found a shiny Psyduck and i killed it, because i did not know what those sparkles were, and i kept playing like nothing happened 😅😅

    • @H3XM4N1AC
      @H3XM4N1AC Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@JohnnyVincent420 oh my god

    • @JohnnyVincent420
      @JohnnyVincent420 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@H3XM4N1AC yea man and then i got older and i learned what a shiny was, i instantly think of that moment and i realized i killed a shiny, Pokémon is a deep game 🤣👍

  • @leopoldakaleopoldalsoknown5050
    @leopoldakaleopoldalsoknown5050 Před 9 měsíci +27

    I don't care what everyone thinks. Typhlosion is the best

  • @luisgusta
    @luisgusta Před 9 měsíci +75

    Yeah, you're right on Geodude, this is a very common Knowledge between nuzlockers. Rock/Ground types are amazing on regular playthroughs, and even Graveler will carry you through Johto. If you can evolve it to golem, it is even better.
    When I don't have full access, I usually use Graveler until the Victory Road, when I can replace it with a Rhydon for the E4.

    • @TheSmithPlays
      @TheSmithPlays Před 9 měsíci +22

      rhydon is a BEAST

    • @RyanNash20
      @RyanNash20 Před 9 měsíci +10

      Rhydon is definitely a monster and would take #1 if it had geodudes availability, or even just better availability in general

  • @ColonelCorson
    @ColonelCorson Před 9 měsíci +51

    The trade evolutions really let you steamroll Gen II even more than usual, I was just lucky enough to have neighbors with a trading cable back when I was a kid.

    • @remote24
      @remote24 Před 9 měsíci +4

      It's not like the game is difficult in general xD a fkn caterpie would get through this game😂

    • @adolfhitleroffical
      @adolfhitleroffical Před 9 měsíci

      @@remote24do it

    • @Alexander_Grant
      @Alexander_Grant Před 6 měsíci +6

      @@remote24 Make a video where you do a run with just caterpie. I'd gladly watch it.

    • @timboslice8559
      @timboslice8559 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I didn’t so I actually use to avoid catching the trade evolution Pokémon cuz living in the middle of nowhere I knew I’d never get to trade

  • @ziqi92
    @ziqi92 Před 9 měsíci +99

    Lanturn was a critical Pokemon to acquire as soon as you defeated Whitney in Crystal. It’s incredibly useful in a game where Mareep is absent and can learn most of the HMs. With its bulk, it actually puts Whirlpool to good use in the Battle Tower because it also has access to Confuse Ray. Give it Leftovers and it’s very solid.

    • @tablesalt2628
      @tablesalt2628 Před 9 měsíci +13

      Kadabra with thunderpunch makes electric types unnecessary on the team. Kadabra/Alakazam is just broken.

    • @mikemckenzie3175
      @mikemckenzie3175 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Elekid/electabuzz is better

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision Před 9 měsíci +8

      Wait, the Mareep line is unavailable in Crystal?? Why!? That’s so weird! It’s an iconic Johto Pokémon line!

    • @ziqi92
      @ziqi92 Před 9 měsíci +5

      @@MerkhVision so they can continue to sell copies of GS

    • @Mr.WhatzitTooya
      @Mr.WhatzitTooya Před 9 měsíci

      Such an underrated pokemon in that game

  • @Hyparbeem526
    @Hyparbeem526 Před 9 měsíci +262

    Your take on a single Pokemon game has been really refreshing because you talk about them within the context of *the game they are in.*
    I think nowadays, there are so many Pokemon games and so many Pokemon, that when people think of a single Pokemon, they are left with this weird overall impression of what they may have been like in one game or another, creating this inaccurate depiction of said Pokemon.
    For example, Tauros. It was one of the KINGS of RBY, but as time went on, it fell off. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't talk about its importance during the game that it was in. It says a lot more about RBY than it does about Tauros. I feel people would enjoy Pokemon a lot more if they focused more on the adventure aspect then just "Oh, Pokemon strong, Pokemon good, Pokemon weak, Pokemon bad."
    But your take makes Crystal feel like it's own experience, not just a footnote in where Pokemon got to today. It makes Pokemon Crystal itself feel like it has its own special place in the Pokemon Saga, which I think is really neat. Thanks for all your work on bringing it back to life with Crystal Legacy.

    • @ShinyShilla
      @ShinyShilla Před 9 měsíci +7

      In sun moon magnetone was such a good 'mon, caught it at the start just to spice things up on my team (I never cared for it) and it quickly became one of my favorite on the team. I play since Red/Blue came out so it's incredible what a simple playthrough utility can do to a 'mon

    • @bvd_vlvd
      @bvd_vlvd Před 9 měsíci +3

      I have a similar obsession with gen 1 and it's even funnier because the way pokemon worked is even more different than other games. I was shocked while creating a gen 1 nuzlocke tier list (it isn't finished yet, but currently) the best pokemon in the game is, and there's no way you'll guess this, actually just Swords Dance Body Slam Kingler because setup moves and good defence can actually punch through anything. Poliwrath is pretty insane with amnesia and good defences but it's just that damn fighting type that was awful in gen 1 that put it a few spots below. Oh, I just got a shiny Totodile from soft resetting in soul silver. That's cool. You're my lucky comment

    • @MarioGomez-zk4fo
      @MarioGomez-zk4fo Před 9 měsíci +2

      Warm comment from Hyper Beam.

    • @pandaman1331
      @pandaman1331 Před 9 měsíci

      Liking Pokemon for being good makes more sense to me than liking it for looking cool. Then again, in-game you can win with every Pokemon. Still, solely liking Pokemon for their design is a level of shallowness I don't understand.

    • @dutchdude1985
      @dutchdude1985 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Tauros is indeed a good example to make that was impacted a lot by the differentiation between sp attack and sp def values. Back in RBY he rocked a spectacular all around special value combined with his wide moveset made for a damn beast of a pokemon. Personally i really like his changes made and only love him more because of it. If you focus on actual melee moves like Strength, Iron Tail and Earthquake he is still truly impressive and it fits his design so well to be that lethal up close n personal.

  • @Philostipher
    @Philostipher Před 9 měsíci +23

    Not a surprise that Geodude line makes number 1, it's one of the best utility pokemon in basically every game it appears. They almost always appear early, the good defense and advantage against normal moves mean training Geodude is super easy early on. Magnitude acts as a great stand in for Earthquake, regardless of the rng aspect. Since your starter is and elemental type rock/ground basically always acts as some kind of type coverage (fire/flying if you pick grass, electric if you pick water, rock if you pick fire). Even if you can't evolve Graveler it can hold its own even through the Elite 4, especially with STAB earthquake. The ease of training and reliability plus availability makes it an obvious choice for basically any team.

    • @Zmeeed01
      @Zmeeed01 Před 7 měsíci

      I haven't had much experience with Geodude but I used Larvitar in Crystal Legacy. Rock/Ground is the king, and you can usually see the special weaknesses coming your way from a mile away so they weren't a problem at all

    • @briliantinoprihandikakhari6754
      @briliantinoprihandikakhari6754 Před měsícem

      Only need two pokemon at about lvl 80 for Elite 4, namely Vaporeon (surf, growth, rest, sleep talk) and Gengar (Hypnosis and whatever else).

  • @ThomatoSauce
    @ThomatoSauce Před 9 měsíci +48

    Tediursa with 80 base attack
    Smith: Yo, this is really good.
    Flareon with 95 base special attack
    Smith: *I N T O T H E T R A S H I T G O E S !*

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  Před 9 měsíci +5

      LOL

    • @adamwalker3560
      @adamwalker3560 Před 8 měsíci +7

      Lol but that is also taking into account the differences in when you get them and moveset. The eeveelutions has horrific movesets in gen 2, and fire types rely heavily on those moves. Normal types have tons of options. Also worth mentioning, Flareon has pretty bad physical bulk and low HP. The horror of trying to fight the Elite Four, using a pokemon that it's only stab fire move is EMBER. 'Nuff said.

    • @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli
      @GiuseppeGaetanoSabatelli Před 2 měsíci +1

      Flareon is literally an evolution... Lol

  • @gofglida4155
    @gofglida4155 Před 9 měsíci +23

    The BOULDER. I’m so happy he is the king of johto.
    I think magmar deserves an honourable mention. It is literally the only viable fire type in gold and silver that isn’t the starter. It’s got high speed and special attack along with fire punch and flamethrower at respectable levels. Thunder punch and dynamic punch are some good coverage moves that magmar gets.

  • @qgame4941
    @qgame4941 Před 9 měsíci +72

    During the reel with alternatives to feraligatr I gotta say, the gen 2 backsprites are gorgeous

    • @HM-jl8pr
      @HM-jl8pr Před 9 měsíci +1

      Not all of them. backsprite of pokemon like forretress sucks.

    • @qgame4941
      @qgame4941 Před 9 měsíci

      @@HM-jl8pr yeah that's definitely true

    • @RaphaelC94
      @RaphaelC94 Před 8 měsíci +3

      IMO best sprites and best soundtrack of the franchise.

    • @Generaider
      @Generaider Před 6 měsíci +4

      Gen 2's ost, spritework & warm color palette really set it apart from other Pokemon games

    • @daveyosh88
      @daveyosh88 Před 3 měsíci +1

      One of the reasons I want to keep replaying the game. So fun to trade over Gen 1 mons to see their new backsprites

  • @Martyste
    @Martyste Před 9 měsíci +7

    I've JUST done a playthrough, and chose Meganium, Pidgeot, Ursaring, Golduck, Arcanine and Umbreon. They required lots of patience but the payout was immense:
    Hatched an Eevee with the one Bill gives you on a road ideal to grind his early levels, and fed him stat boosts to get the required happiness to evolve, and after learning Bite. He has the best defenses of the team but his Bite is now STAB.
    The schoolboy on Route 38 can get you a Fire Stone if you keep his number, so I saved it for Growlithe who had to level up to 50 ( right before Elite 4 and with lots and lots of grind ) to get Flamethrower, then immediately evolve to learn Extreme Speed, and get absolute busted Attack and Sp.Attack to wreck open E4. Gave him Dragon Breath for type coverage.
    Earthquake and Thunderpunch for Ursaring. Return and Thief for Pidgeot so the team's designated Airship can pack a good punch too.
    It was the first time I played Johto without choosing to plan for Red Gyarados or any legendary in my active party. Going for a more risky route but enjoying the success of a good strategy. Even if full of flaws, Crystal is an insane game for 2MB...

  • @MrZrbrownie
    @MrZrbrownie Před 9 měsíci +16

    Those honorable mentions make you realize how solid water types are in the early gens. Lapras and Johto are like PB&J to me.

    • @tadferd4340
      @tadferd4340 Před 8 měsíci

      Water types in general are solid. Water is a strong type.

    • @maxiebon1
      @maxiebon1 Před 14 dny +1

      Id say they're more of a liquid. Now ice types, those are solid!

  • @theworstchannelever6196
    @theworstchannelever6196 Před 9 měsíci +77

    The Geodude line is great being unable to learn Rock Slide is really unfortunate, not having a reliable STAB attack of one of your types is a huge downside that makes them far worse off than they would have been otherwise.

    • @Gemini090693
      @Gemini090693 Před 9 měsíci +5

      I still let it use Defense Curl + Rollout 😂

    • @2N3mo001
      @2N3mo001 Před 5 měsíci

      It's been a while for gen 1 and 2 for me. Could you trade geodude line to rby, tm rock slide on it, then trade back? I know I did this with my alakazam since elemental punches did not exist in rby so only way to have a severely busted Alakazam in RBY.

    • @daveyosh88
      @daveyosh88 Před 3 měsíci

      @@2N3mo001Yup, you sure can. That rock slide tm in general 1 is amazing. I just threw it on my kanghaskan in gold.

  • @dannigro8794
    @dannigro8794 Před 2 měsíci +2

    The good thing with for alligator is once you get it you don’t have to worry about getting another water type Pokémon to use surf so you have an extra slot for a different type of Pokémon.

  • @calebshmanderson
    @calebshmanderson Před 9 měsíci +6

    Ive been singing my praises for Geodude ever since my first run of crystal. It practically soloed the entire gym challenge except for Chuck which I just put out with my Fearow.

  • @MerkhVision
    @MerkhVision Před 9 měsíci +15

    The trade Machop is available _after_ the 2nd Gym, (once u get to Goldenrod City) not before like u said. Just a slight mistake. And Magmar can be found in the Burned Tower, u don’t need to get a Magby Egg!

  • @jameslowell9656
    @jameslowell9656 Před 9 měsíci +14

    I would put donphan in this. 120 attack and defense and 90 HP. phanpy can also be acquired early. Mono ground is a nice type in gen 2 as well.

  • @machoke666
    @machoke666 Před 9 měsíci +8

    One of the most fun I've had playing gen 2 was when I had a team of just weak gen 2 single-stage Pokémon, so Pokémon like Dunsparce, Stantler, Corsola, Gligar, and so on, I highly recommend people to try it out

    • @timboslice8559
      @timboslice8559 Před 5 měsíci

      Why one of the best parts of the game is seeing your Pokémon evolve from the hard work you put in

  • @14bj337
    @14bj337 Před 9 měsíci +14

    One honorable mention I'd add is Donphan. It comes late in Silver, but Phanpy can be gotten as soon as Route 46 in Crystal. Anyway, Defense Curl plus Rollout is just an insane combination, plus its got the bulk to take a hit or two. Just wish it got a better Ground Move (Mud-Slap, oof) before EQ at 49 (or via TM).

    • @mikemckenzie3175
      @mikemckenzie3175 Před 9 měsíci

      You can get phanpy very early in Crystal as well. Don’t have to wait till route 46. Just go north on the first route and have it Be morning

    • @DubCmusicTV
      @DubCmusicTV Před 9 měsíci

      that's already possible with Geodude. Rock Throw/Rollout, Earthquake to replace Magnitude, Explosion, and defense Curl if you wish to keep.

    • @frozenandchosen
      @frozenandchosen Před 9 měsíci +2

      I remember spending forever searching for a Phanpy in Crystal without one fleeing, it was so worth the work though

    • @14bj337
      @14bj337 Před 9 měsíci

      @@DubCmusicTV True enough, and I'm not doubting the greatness of the Geodude line. That said, assuming you can't trade, it's Graveler vs. Donphan. Donphan is higher in... basically every stat. He outspeeds more foes than Graveler, and can take Water- or Grass-type attacks without crumpling. Graveler does have a stronger Rollout, thanks to STAB, but Donphan is hitting harder everywhere else. Magnitude and Normal/Flying resistances are also to Graveler's credit, although Donphan has no worry against Steel- and Fighting-type attacks.
      So, of the two, which is better? In a "full run" context... probably Graveler. Definitely Golem, if you can get one. That said, I don't think Donphan is far behind, and he arguably has a higher ceiling.

    • @DubCmusicTV
      @DubCmusicTV Před 9 měsíci

      @@14bj337 if they are both like level 45, Donphan is stronger going forward. You can't get him until Victory Road, while for Geodude, many will have been playing with it for eight badges. Geodude has usefulness for every Johto Gym besides Chuck's. I guess you can call that emotional attachment. haha

  • @Bobopoes
    @Bobopoes Před 9 měsíci +236

    flareon's 95 sp attack isn't awful

    • @Kil000999
      @Kil000999 Před 9 měsíci +6

      Really not

    • @philipspigelmeyer959
      @philipspigelmeyer959 Před 9 měsíci +68

      You don't get it til Kanto. So it's not great at all for a whole playthru

    • @AzureDragon158
      @AzureDragon158 Před 9 měsíci +116

      No, but why use your fire stone to get Flareon when you could use it for Arcanine or Ninetales and have your Eevee evolve into Espeon or Umbreon instead?

    • @Rainypnw
      @Rainypnw Před 9 měsíci

      @@philipspigelmeyer959 You get a Firestone after the third gym via Schoolboy Alan. You can cheese this by switching on/off DST with your mom to fish for calls with the stone.

    • @675gilly
      @675gilly Před 9 měsíci +9

      People just like to complain

  • @toshio1334
    @toshio1334 Před 9 měsíci +158

    Probably the most obnoxious ad I've ever seen in a video. Normally ads have their own section... and then there's the Kindra section that basically barely lets you skip the ad.

    • @HN9
      @HN9 Před 3 měsíci +23

      Yeah, I stopped watching the video and unsubscribed because of this. I read in the other comments some people liked this way of doing ads, so power to them of course. Maybe it’s just me, but yeah personally I hate it.

    • @nightblader1
      @nightblader1 Před 3 měsíci +6

      This way seriously sucks

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      @MidNightSniak Před 3 měsíci +1

      You can always get premium if you don't like the ads. But I guess beggers can be chooserS

    • @HN9
      @HN9 Před 3 měsíci +20

      @@MidNightSniak You understand that premium won’t let you skip the product placement in the video itself right? I actually do have premium because I really dislike ads. Again, it looks like a lot of people actually liked this way of doing ads, but I personally do not.

    • @MidNightSniak
      @MidNightSniak Před 3 měsíci +1

      Ofcourse, all I'm saying is that ads are common thing in everyday life. I don't find them as annoying as someone trying to push their religion on me

  • @greyvanity
    @greyvanity Před 9 měsíci +4

    idk how anyone else feels, But the elemental punches are deadass GREAT moves for stab and coverage options so the fact that at some point the kinda only existed by move tutor and they aren’t tms for a bit is wild to me, so Totadile getting ice punch by LEVEL UP is kinda crazy

  • @Eric-gp3hi
    @Eric-gp3hi Před 9 měsíci +20

    This was a great video game talking about the 10 best Pokemon to use in Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal. I would like to see Game Freak and the Pokémon Company make a Gen 1 Collection, Gen 2 Collection, Gen 3 Collection in the future! I’m looking forward to all the improvements you make in Crystal Legacy.

  • @seantaylor424
    @seantaylor424 Před 9 měsíci +10

    I've heard informative ad-reads and I've heard funny ad-reads, but this is the first ad-read I've heard that didn't stop the plot of the video! Amazing stuff!

    • @Rafael9500
      @Rafael9500 Před 5 měsíci +1

      What you said there goes along with my hypothesis that many if not most videos present a narrative!

  • @rwg6357
    @rwg6357 Před 5 měsíci +3

    did the video just cut off at the end?

    • @smithplayspokemon
      @smithplayspokemon  Před 4 měsíci

      Sorry, I had to make an edit and it didn’t come as clean as I hoped.

  • @SamFromSolitude
    @SamFromSolitude Před 9 měsíci +3

    My Crystal team consisted of quite a few of these. It was Typhlosion, Pidgeot, Kadabra, Machoke, Lanturn, and Red Gyarados which was later switched for Snorlax.
    I ALWAYS swear by Lanturn. I kinda had to because there’s no Ampharos in that game, but also, the absolutely unfair strategy of Thunder Wave and Confuse Ray has the potential to annihilate the whole game. I was kinda underlevelled for Clair, but Lanturn made it a non-issue by making her Kingdra completely unable to get a move off.

    • @kildawg
      @kildawg Před 9 měsíci

      Don't forget Flail. I had a Lanturn beat that annoying Kingdra with that move at 1HP left.

  • @matiashall1758
    @matiashall1758 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Can't wait for your rom hack. Watching your videos really makes me want to replay my favourite game - Crystal, but gotta put it of to try your rom hack.

  • @addambarcelos
    @addambarcelos Před 9 měsíci +2

    I was expecting at least 3 of the trade evolution pokemon to show up on the list, but machamp was a fair surprise.

  • @alkemyst337
    @alkemyst337 Před 9 měsíci

    My first gen 2 Geodude was named Bomber. That was 20 years ago, but I still remember her as my ace, even though Feraligatr was my favorite Pokemon at the time. She just never stopped winning!

  • @flazuki5288
    @flazuki5288 Před 7 měsíci

    geodude line was actually used in one of the TASes for gold/silver! Getting it so early and rng manip for highest magnitude always is OP

  • @brockdowdle
    @brockdowdle Před 9 měsíci +4

    I loved everything about this video. The editing, content, rankings, and even the sponsor section was done in a way where I found it super interesting and engaging!

  • @wimsatt89
    @wimsatt89 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I am so ready for your rom hack. I have put off a gen 2 play through for months now waiting for it!

  • @christopherballero866
    @christopherballero866 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Geodude is available absurdly early and due to bad level design it can go against a lot plus potentially fully evolved by the third or fourth gym is very good

  • @AlejoGoVegan
    @AlejoGoVegan Před 9 měsíci

    As a kid I always though about that, because playing with fire or grass starter, and not liking the fact I had to trade kadabra/haunter to fully evolve, it meant I need to capture a water or ice type for ice-punch to fight Lance.
    Then I realized rock also was super efective against flying dragons, then after looking in retrospective to the first 3 gymns, I always looked for a geodude at the beggining of the game.
    Nice video dude.

  • @Elemento-115
    @Elemento-115 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I would say that a honorable mention could definitely be Foretress, as you can get a Drowsy early in Crystal, it learns by lvl UP Headbutt which can open to Pinecone or other evolved pokemon as Noctowl or Ariados early in the game, they won't ger you through al the gyms but it is a great pokemon you can use as a ticking bomb if you need some extra damage in desperate situations

  • @Spoopid0
    @Spoopid0 Před 9 měsíci +1

    lanturn is my favorite water type from gen 2 and im so glad it at least almost made the list

  • @christopherstory514
    @christopherstory514 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Dragonite was my favorite late Johto Pokemon. It's already 5 levels higher than Lance's once you evolve it, and having access to all three punches and wing attack means it can walk through the entire Elite Four with only a couple of hitches in Gengar and Houndoom.

  • @thishouseofglass
    @thishouseofglass Před 9 měsíci +1

    I bred a Vulpix with Hypnosis my last gen2 play through for my in game team, was a lot of fun

  • @joryknuckles
    @joryknuckles Před 7 měsíci

    Honestly one of the best Pokémon videos ive seen on youtube. Straight to the point and ended perfecrly 10/10 will watch again

  • @ArjunRamkisoensing
    @ArjunRamkisoensing Před 9 měsíci +1

    I love that you make gen2 videos!!

  • @Hyrule-Postman
    @Hyrule-Postman Před 9 měsíci +1

    In my last Crystal run, i completely disrespected Claire with Ursaring and Fury Swipes, really a good pokemon. Became one of my favorite when i beat Gale of Darkness with only Vaporeon and Ursaring 15 years ago

  • @DavidOso2024
    @DavidOso2024 Před 4 měsíci

    It is very unique and nice that you are the only one I know to reference a sponsorship with the video you are making e.g.how you referenced kingdra's defence capabilities with surfshark's ability to protect your computer from danger.

  • @redvsblueftw
    @redvsblueftw Před 9 měsíci

    Been following along with your progress with this romhack for the last few months. Really looking forward to nuzlocking this game!

  • @DigiRangerScott
    @DigiRangerScott Před 9 měsíci +1

    The Geodude getting such a good spot is so weird and cool

  • @nicocchi
    @nicocchi Před 9 měsíci

    Gotta love ARATAKI NUMERO UNO ITTO's theme song playing in the background

  • @hanspeter3507
    @hanspeter3507 Před 9 měsíci

    Congrats on the 100k. Loving your chanel ❤

  • @robertdicaprio7116
    @robertdicaprio7116 Před 5 měsíci +4

    Tyranitar is GOAT

  • @jeremyrossi2716
    @jeremyrossi2716 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I feel like Lapras is hella underrated in Gen 2 in game lists like these:
    -it’s your best option against Clair’s Kingdra and Red’s Snorlax because Perish Song is a guaranteed 3 turn KO (which your basically not getting with any other Pokémon you’d realistically have) and not only Lapras is bulky enough to last that long, not only can it use sing to put them to sleep making those three turns basically free, but even if they attack they’ll probably go for a normal attack because it’ll do the most damage, which you can just switch to Haunter/Gengar, and absorb it and watch them perish.
    -it has high special attack so it can actually use Surf unlike Gyarados whose Special Attack is really weak and since water moves are all special it can’t just kill things with water mfall.
    -it is probably the most damage you can do to Lance’s illegal Dragonites by just using Ice Beam (barring maybe Suicune and Lugia, but they’re really difficult to get)
    -it’s one of your best options against Jasmine’s Steelix so long as you can avoid getting hit with Iron Tail or Steelix using Sunny Day which you can do with Sing.
    -availability’s a complete non issue. Lapras is a static spawn in Union Cave on Fridays so you can just play through the game until you get Surf, trek back to Union Cave on Friday after putting Surf on something, explore a little and you’ll find it in the water.
    -It’s not even under leveled by the time you get it, it’s level 20 so it’d probably be just under what your team would be if it defeated Morty before taking on the Kimono Girls for the Surf HM.
    -it’s physical attack isn’t terrible either so Body Slam can actually do damage for you until you get the special moves it wants
    -this thing can have perfect neutral coverage in Crystal once it learns Surf, Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, and Psychic
    The only other water type that compares to Lapras in viability is Feraligatr, who is worse than Typhlosion in a lot of ways, so choosing it comes with the opportunity cost of not having Typhlosion.
    If you could catch this before Whitney it’d probably dominate that fight (especially in Crystal where Ice Beam and Thunderbolt could be tutored) and be one of if not the best Pokémon in the game by having good coverage and utility on a bulky water type with Surf and a good special attack stat to hit back nice and hard.

    • @aquartertwo
      @aquartertwo Před 8 měsíci

      One other thing holding Lapras back is bad EXP growth. It's in the Slow category shared by Legendaries. It takes more EXP for it to level up compared to your other party members.

    • @jeremyrossi2716
      @jeremyrossi2716 Před 6 měsíci

      @@aquartertwo while this is true, Lapras is so good in so many situations that if you just pick it repeatedly the slow EXP isn’t a big deal. Water and Ice stab do go a long way.

    • @et34t34fdf
      @et34t34fdf Před 5 měsíci

      Lapras is considerably better than Kingdra imo, having no weaknesses is sort of overrated.

  • @ObiClon
    @ObiClon Před 9 měsíci

    I've used at least 9 (and 11 of the 12 honorable mentions) of the Pokemon featured on this list in either the Gen 2 games or in later generation games with some being used in Gen 1.

  • @illusionsoulspark
    @illusionsoulspark Před 9 měsíci

    I did not expect Jamie's theme from sf6 at 3:30. Loved the vid.

  • @ivanbluecool
    @ivanbluecool Před 9 měsíci +4

    Yeah top three are very op pokemon. Used them in my last playthroughs and stomped through everything.

  • @SoundaSheep
    @SoundaSheep Před 9 měsíci +9

    You expertly weaved the sponsorship into the video. It was honestly impressive.

  • @Litchert
    @Litchert Před 9 měsíci

    That Kingdra/Surf Shark might be the smoothest and most enjoyable ad read I've ever seen

  • @charoisaur594
    @charoisaur594 Před 9 měsíci +1

    What I don't understand is why Machamp is eligible due to "the assumption you have perfect access to Pokemon". If using Pokemon obtained via trade is allowed, you could also complete the game with Mewtwo.

    • @dntremad8290
      @dntremad8290 Před 9 měsíci +1

      We are simply talking about trading for evolutions. This basically means you can also trade with a friend and get the evolution. No one would give you their Mewtwo like that 😂 Obviously if you trade bettween your own games you can just send an OP legend but you should also remember that Mewtwo's minimum level will be 70 and without badges good luck getting it to listen

  • @Sononono
    @Sononono Před 9 měsíci +1

    Saying Miltank is only on the honorable mentions when it's LEAGUES better than Ursaring and Machamp is baffling to me, as someone who replayed gen 2 a lot over the year with hardcore nuzlocke rules + a few more very restrictive rules, I can say that Miltank is EASILY an elite four pick that is also good throughout the entire game when you get it.
    It's arguably a top 5 pick you bring vs Lance and this is also considering reduced level cap, meaning mons are weaker than normal and it still performed much better than expected.

  • @thishouseofglass
    @thishouseofglass Před 9 měsíci +1

    I usually taught my Flaaffy Fire Punch, and Thunder Punch if I had the cash, as soon as possible, what a beast

  • @abdur-jalil
    @abdur-jalil Před 6 měsíci +2

    6:10 i thought you could get a fire stone from the school boy if you have him registered on the pokegear?
    There are a couple of trainers around Johto that will call you and say they have something for you, and they will give you evolution stones.

  • @atonofspiders
    @atonofspiders Před 2 měsíci

    People always forget to mention how Typhlosion gets Thunderpunch as a TMin gen 2. In this game it goes off his special attack, and it's so good that you could argue not needing an electric type.

  • @Funkytowwn101
    @Funkytowwn101 Před 9 měsíci +1

    fun fact, a ghastly, haunter or gengar with curse, can completely counter Red’s killing machine snorlax. regardless of level

  • @EastsidedTTV
    @EastsidedTTV Před 9 měsíci

    Used nidoking during my vc crystal playthrough. Can confirm it’s goated

  • @kennyg5678
    @kennyg5678 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Please dont let me be the only one who thought he was going to say more at the end

  • @jordansmithchannel
    @jordansmithchannel Před 7 dny

    Can confirm Feraligatr is the strongest starter in probably any series. I sped run this game with only Feraligatr so many times.

  • @DUKEHadToDoItToEm
    @DUKEHadToDoItToEm Před 9 měsíci

    Wow I would've never thought the Geodude line would be top 10 let alone #1 but your reasoning is bulletproof. From availability to matchups to move pool he's all around good

  • @alihasanaxe4936
    @alihasanaxe4936 Před 9 měsíci

    Even at 5th, Typhlosion is getting slept on. With halfway decent DVs, it rather easily soloes every major fight in the game at level (without potions, etc. because anything can do that). Usually you don't even need to be at level for Red. 70ish works fine.
    You get the charcoal super early then just use fire move, dig/eq when you get it, thunder punch, whatever you want in last. And that's just solo. If you decide you want to get another team member and grind, it becomes even easier.

  • @bryndenrivers1697
    @bryndenrivers1697 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I've always said that a female Geodude is the best counter for Whitney, glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks like this.

  • @holschermarc
    @holschermarc Před 9 měsíci

    Ampharos - or better known as "The Nuke in ur Pocket that u get after the first Gym because Yolo i guess". Love it

  • @mikemath9508
    @mikemath9508 Před 9 měsíci +3

    5:15
    machop before the second gym? i only ever got one for trading in goldenrod which is after the 2nd gym

  • @kurisupikurimu1866
    @kurisupikurimu1866 Před 9 měsíci

    Super surprising seeing a Fire Punch (manga) reference; that really made my day LOL

  • @KOSMOS1701A
    @KOSMOS1701A Před 9 měsíci +1

    not gonna lie, when you said Geodude was number 1 i looked at the upload date to make sure this wasn't put up in April.

  • @EZO3123
    @EZO3123 Před 4 měsíci

    I like how 4 of the top 6 are the 4 pokemon from the gen 1 line you needed to trade in order to get lol

  • @scresaxz
    @scresaxz Před 5 měsíci

    a big curse of the 2nd gen was the late levels required for some powerhouse move. they were counting on the kanto portion being much more of a focus it felt. .

  • @burlong01
    @burlong01 Před 9 měsíci

    That was the most effective ad I've ever seen because skipping it means skipping all of kingdra.

  • @doma3554
    @doma3554 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I remember beating Pokemon Red or Blue. He solo'd everything in the entire game from the moment his moveset was complete. Hypnosis, Psychic, Ice Punch, Thunderpunch. Maybe it was Gen 2, and not Gen 1?

    • @delta_power3049
      @delta_power3049 Před 9 měsíci

      The elemental punches weren't in gen 1

    • @dntremad8290
      @dntremad8290 Před 9 měsíci

      Funny thing is you can trade Alakazam to gen 2, teach it all 3 elemental punches and then send it back to gen 1 😂😂

    • @delta_power3049
      @delta_power3049 Před 9 měsíci +1

      CORRECTION:
      The punches are in gen 1, but only Hitmomchan can learn all three. Fire punch can also be learned by Magmar, Ice punch is also Jynx, and thunder punch is also Elektabuzz.
      There were no move tutors that taught these moves, and they weren't tms like in gen 2, so that is it.

  • @kennethbryant5819
    @kennethbryant5819 Před měsícem

    The mareep line always felt like a fourth gen 2 starter to me and a must have in any game it appears. Also, I'm a big fan of the early rock type cave archetypes. They always end up stupidly powerful despite how common they are. I mean the Geodudes, the arons, the roggenrolas etc.

  • @blacktheripper9870
    @blacktheripper9870 Před 9 měsíci +4

    adding in that sponorship into the video like that was probably the best "sponsorship add in" i've ever seen . That was really creative.

  • @holschermarc
    @holschermarc Před 9 měsíci +1

    Ursaring and Zangoose still dick fighting over who is the better Facade user. But with Zangoose not existing in Gen 2 (lets ignore that Facade also doesnt exist) no body can claim the kings crown from Ursaring. Its just raw "Punch u so hard in the face that u will swallow ur teeths and shit them out so i can feed them again to u"-Energy

  • @Veseere
    @Veseere Před 9 měsíci +2

    Hardcore Nuzlockes of the vanilla GSC games are made much easier with Totodile as your starter, it's by far the strongest and fully accessible. You can even solo HC Nuzlocke the game with it.

    • @Veseere
      @Veseere Před 9 měsíci

      Ursaring is strong but has the flaw of not learning Shadow Ball to give it the classic Normal/Ghost unresisted physical coverage. It's still very good and 75 special attack firing off elemental punches is more than enough if they're super effective.

    • @tricky2795
      @tricky2795 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@Veseere It also learn earthquake and Dig, and Gen 2 has no abilities like levitate, so another good answer to ghost/rock/steel that walls it's normal stab and then fire punch for Skarmory.
      edit: maybe Ice punch as well for Graveler as you don't wanna dig into a magnitude

  • @redtwo006
    @redtwo006 Před 3 měsíci

    It really helps that Geodude is Chikorita's best friend. Covers all its weaknesses with that excellent offensive combo and Chikorita can handle a fair few of its counters in return. Get yourself a female Geodude and Whitney's toast, especially if you exploit Defense Curl/STAB Rollout. Great choices for the top three!

  • @shandog7
    @shandog7 Před 9 měsíci +1

    5:20 Machop cannot be encountered before second gym. Only after you get to Goldenrod can you get one via Trade

  • @RatedRMario21
    @RatedRMario21 Před 8 měsíci

    Geodude using STAB Mud-Slap is a great strategy for Whitney's infamous MIltank, First of all it resists Stomp and Rollout and after 3 or 4 Accuracy drops, Rollout gets severely nerfed. Female Geodude nullifying Attract is just icing on the cake

  • @FinnGreenland
    @FinnGreenland Před 9 měsíci

    TBH that was the cleanest sponsor ever. You cant skip it or youll miss the entry so you have to watch it.
    Smart.

  • @kylescott9529
    @kylescott9529 Před 9 měsíci +1

    So I raised an eyebrow at first with Kingdra (and not because of the ad) being in this at all. I had no clue a dragon scale was able to be theived off wild pokemon from the Horse and Dratini line until today (almost a quarter century after the game came out). The only one you can get in the overworld I believe requires Waterfall (which means you are getting it WAAYYYYY too late). So that does make it a little better. Even still, I think it deserves to be dinged because that's a lot of effort to get it (thieving the scale + trade EVO) and it would still need to be around halfway through the game before you get access to it. I'd bump it off, raise Feraligatr up one and move Quagsire to rank 10.
    The rest of the list is...alright and at least is logically consistent. Golem, Alakazam, Gengar, and Machamp are going to naturally be in the top 5 because their evolution method isn't predicated on in-game effort. You can get a third stage evolution without leveling up the middle one once and you don't get gatekept by not having an item. You can have Alakazam for the Whitney fight and not be overlevelling her gym lol. I think you already mentioned how it might go, but it may be interesting if you put a limit on when those pokemon could be evolved (or just simply don't do any trade evos; but that kills like three other pokemon). So i guess there's no perfect way to handle that lol.

  • @dano4708
    @dano4708 Před 9 měsíci

    This is the smoothest ad integration I've ever seen on this platform.

  • @2N3mo001
    @2N3mo001 Před 5 měsíci

    Crystal is my favorite game in the series and even after hundreds of playthroughs I love learning more about it (never considered some of these pokemon for my team). Typhlosion is my go to pick for every playthrough.

  • @RenegadeGamer89
    @RenegadeGamer89 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Finally someone giving the gen 2 Geodude line the respect they deserve.

    • @chronology556
      @chronology556 Před 9 měsíci

      Geodude was amazing in Gen 2, used it in all my playthroughs as a kid, I knew it was great, but no one really talked about it. Kid me just mercilessly went through the game with Graveler/Golem, and knew how awesome it was, but no one sung its praises, only Feraligatr, mostly. I also knew how great Alakazam was back then. Kid me was smart. Adult me, not so much.

  • @zenmhmd3204
    @zenmhmd3204 Před 9 měsíci

    Golem is actually freakin awesome in gen 2, used it on my last playthrough, defense curl + roll out, defeated red at level 55 XD

  • @genevievemeuniere4047
    @genevievemeuniere4047 Před 9 měsíci

    I can only agree to get a Geodude in a Gen 2 Nuzlocke (either base games, remakes or roms) is always a good sign.

  • @jeremyrossi2716
    @jeremyrossi2716 Před 9 měsíci

    BIG downsides for the Gastly line: ONLY Gengar gets the elemental punches. Haunter and Gastly don’t yet (though they do get Thunderbolt in Crystal via tutor). Meaning if you’re playing a ROM and thus cannot trade, you’re stuck with Haunter, Kadabra, Graveler, and Machoke and of this lot Haunter kinda sucks. They aren’t unusable at all: a fast Hypnosis on top of a normal and fighting immunities are SUPER helpful early game-especially against Whitney’s war crime of a Miltank-but out of all 4 Kanto trade evos Haunter is by far neutered the most if it can’t evolve into Gengar. The worst part is this is basically for next to no reason, Kadabra can learn all 3 without evolving and it’s also a Kanto trade evo special attacker, they could’ve done the same for Haunter and just didn’t. It also doesn’t even have the ability to explode without transferring it from a Gen 1 game, even though Graveler does. Their only gimmicks are their immunities, Hypnosis and using that sleep to either switch out to something like Kadabra or using Dream Eater (you don’t get till 39), or Destiny Bond shenanigans (you don’t get until level 48).
    I wouldn’t recommend using Haunter for in game late game compared to other better options, but if it’s any consolation prize, Haunter is your absolute BEST option in one particular instance and that’s catching the legendary dogs. It’s your fastest Mean Looker that none of them have a type advantage on so they can’t escape, using Hypnosis so they can’t Roar you out, and by the time you out speed Raikou you have to be at like level 40 so Night Shade actually kinda does decent set damage. If you intend on catching them and using the doggos, definitely catch and raise a Gastly to Haunter, but after that maybe get some priests and lay it to rest-it’s earned it.

    • @jordanbasinger4821
      @jordanbasinger4821 Před 6 měsíci

      I use the emulator my old boy and can trade with myself between roms, so Gengar and Alakazam are a must to me

  • @ProCrastinatorJay
    @ProCrastinatorJay Před 9 měsíci

    Yeah, I used a Golem, Gene, on my first Crystal playthrough. My catchphrase during the early game was, "Gene, carry me!"

  • @MortenLongbottom
    @MortenLongbottom Před 9 měsíci +1

    The top 10: Seven of them are Kanto Pokémon (and four of them are the four as always), 3 of them are Johto (and two of the three are starters).
    How creative Game Freak; Gold/Silver/ Crystal needs a remake/reboot/spinoff. And please, bring back Crys.

  • @Thedarksenshi
    @Thedarksenshi Před 9 měsíci +1

    Impressive that you were able to weave in talking about your sponsor while still going on about the subject of your video. I actually haven't seen much of, if any content creators do that.

  • @antoniocastro9614
    @antoniocastro9614 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I’d wish he’d post the Gen2 stat distribution instead of the Gen4 stats for the Pokémon…

  • @elyte2670
    @elyte2670 Před 6 měsíci

    Playing Crystal Legacy right now and after watching this video,I know I made an excellent team. Although i don't agree on Crobat not making the list. Zubat appear very early on the game, route 30. If you spear him when training against wild pokemon or trainers, you can reach his max friendship really quickly. He has acess to toxic and fly. Very high speed. Also, he has acess to mean look which is really usefull when catching the legendary dogs.

  • @RobertoWCruz
    @RobertoWCruz Před 8 měsíci

    just a note about machamp and fighting types in general in gen 2; fighting type moves in gen 2 are fairly sketchy besides cross chop. also i did a gen 2 mono run of fire type and yes, it's impossible.

  • @XellossBoi
    @XellossBoi Před 9 měsíci +3

    So, we already know that I adore you and love what you do on here, but I have to give you further props for perfectly integrating the sponsor while making it interesting and dynamic.

  • @jbtom321
    @jbtom321 Před 9 měsíci

    I used ursaring in the post game of crystal and it was a beast.

  • @MrDobiedoobie
    @MrDobiedoobie Před 9 měsíci

    Never played crystal as a kid, thus never got Ursaring until late game. Now I need to play Crystal with Ursaring.

  • @mikemath9508
    @mikemath9508 Před 9 měsíci +1

    my problem always was i hated using mid stage evolutions permanently. i did have a link cable for gen 1/2, and then pokemon white 2 was awesome with an active gamefaqs board for trade evolutions/filling out pokedex
    as much as i love the design and sprites of geodude/golem, i can't stand graveler.