I just wish they had made one side camouflage and the other navy blue or shadow gray. That way the hoody could be used to blend into the city and blend into the forest. On the other hand the boundaries would look very odd, maybe that made them decide as they did?
@@MoorlanderEDC Not where I live ( Switzerland). Let's be real, Helikon-Tex gear is for the bushcraft and tactical crowd. Both groups prefer to blend-in in urban settings and disappear in nature. Camo is worn by our military, on weekends you see recruits and militiamen on leave wearing army fatigues on many trains ( free public transport while in uniform). Camo is just not 'cool' here!
Clothing in Mitchell green (vine and leaf) is rare and therefore cool. The Mitchell pattern was used in reversible helmet covers from the late 50s until the early 80s. In Canada, we used them throughout the 60s and the 70s. In the mid-80s we got new covers in the US woodland pattern. But, the cool kids hung on to the Mitchell covers as long as possible. I wore Mitchell in training. On posting to my first battalion, I was issued a new helmet and a brand new woodland cover. I got my hands on a Mitchell cover and wore it until we were issued the Kevlar helmets with CADPAT covers approx 1997 (?). I don't think it is necessarily fair to say Mitchell was the direct precursor to the woodland pat. That would be the ERDL cam. Apparantly, it was developed in the late 40s but not really used until Vietnam. It was the cam uniform for special usage until woodland was issued in the early 80s.
Thanks for the video! It covers 1:1 my Helikon journey. Got now four of them (two with hood, two without hood). Was also waiting since IWA to get the Mitchell one, just arrived two days ago 🤘 Sizing is a little bit weird though. And yes, even in Germany I got my Sunday roast…..
Very cool! Glad to hear Germany has this amazing tradition too I've had a few people asking about the difference between the hoodie and without hoodie. Maybe there's some future content I'll hopefully be at IWA next year. Make sure to say hello if you spot me
Dear Sir, this presentation is the best. You represent the product very well. Reckon besides some background, a little bit of history of the item just add to the charm of the product, even when it's not meant to be. Why am I feeling that I'm sounding like you..!!! Anyway..jolly good show old chap.! Cheers from Australia. Keep them bloopers coming....please!
I am surprised you have not tried some of the Ridgeline gear on this channel - I bought a Grizzly bear iii smock - which is decent, wind proof and super warm, and I have one of their waterproof smocks, which is an amazing bit of kit, as I have stood in downpour that was akin to being in a running shower - and totally dry inside, while everyone else around me was soaked. Try them out, they might be up your street.
Never knew the history of the Mitchell camo. Being a former Marine it is interesting...but oh the Desert Night Camo reversible...just like the newest swagman I got. These things are pricey!
Kinda late as always haha, saw the video month back and now it's time to revisit and get some helikon jacket! This one looks great, although the grey one is nice for urban use, but camo one has very interesting pattern which I think wouldn't be too much for city, it is kind of trendy for youth to wear camo things 😂 maybe it will make me look younger haha. Anyway I wanted to share my sizing problem with helikon and maybe someone slim would have a solution better than I have. As I am 133 pounds and 5.9 feet it is really hard to fit EU S size or it differs a lot in helikon with different clothes, I saw few XS man sized from them but I wonder if they actually make them for real, the thing is as you mentioned with your size (and I'm jealous cuz you have perfect sizing, golden L,XL you will choose any time) it counts for an additional layer which is important, although too large to wear sole jacket. So please if anybody has experience with good fitting helikon S sized jackets comment me, it's really hard in Czechia to get right size and right product for try on store and sending it back all the time is painful for both me and the store.❤
I've been looking at this jacket for a while, I got the pilgrim and hybrid outback trousers after useing the sfu trousers for years. But I think they should have pit zips for proper ventilation. I was hoping they where going to introduced that in the reversible version.
Any word from Mil1st when they're going to stock the reversible Swagmans? The camo patterns in your Wolfhound work really well in that woodland; the green side is for your summer, with the orange for the autumn, to state the obvious.
Great video. The material of the jackets seems like it would snag and rip. Any experience going through briars and thorn bushes? Not that I want to plod through myself but on the oft chance.
I thought the same when I first got mine. I spent last winter climbing through bracken and pushes all over my woods, when spent a day skirmishing with it in the snow. Still in perfect condition. It's not as tough as a proper soft shell however it's really surprised me. I hope that helps
We used to try and get into a local night club when we were young. We used to get turned away, swap coats and then rejoin the line again at the back 😂 this would have been perfect
I've started paying more attention to their measurements and sizes. The Reversible Wolfhound Jacket here is European XL. I'm usually an EU large
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Not fan of these one Same for the 2 others camo versions, not specially fan (maybe the pencott is so so ok). As another wrote I would prefer a camo side and an 'urban' side
Try contacting their social media team through either Facebook or Instagram. They might be able to help. There also may have been an initial issue too which they'll resolve shortly. I hope you manage to get it sorted 🤙
I just wish they had made one side camouflage and the other navy blue or shadow gray.
That way the hoody could be used to blend into the city and blend into the forest.
On the other hand the boundaries would look very odd, maybe that made them decide as they did?
That would be cool, however I'm guessing most people would just wear the camo on the outside 😆
@@MoorlanderEDC Not where I live ( Switzerland). Let's be real, Helikon-Tex gear is for the bushcraft and tactical crowd. Both groups prefer to blend-in in urban settings and disappear in nature.
Camo is worn by our military, on weekends you see recruits and militiamen on leave wearing army fatigues on many trains ( free public transport while in uniform). Camo is just not 'cool' here!
Yes, would be an instant buy for me. Hope they will make such versions in the future
That's a great idea!
FINALLYYYYYYY!!! We’ve both been waiting for this to release since your IWA video!😆
Looks awesome. I use a lot of helikon kit for woodland camps, love it
Right on! I think I need a sit down meeting with HK at IWA next year 😂
Clothing in Mitchell green (vine and leaf) is rare and therefore cool. The Mitchell pattern was used in reversible helmet covers from the late 50s until the early 80s. In Canada, we used them throughout the 60s and the 70s. In the mid-80s we got new covers in the US woodland pattern. But, the cool kids hung on to the Mitchell covers as long as possible. I wore Mitchell in training. On posting to my first battalion, I was issued a new helmet and a brand new woodland cover. I got my hands on a Mitchell cover and wore it until we were issued the Kevlar helmets with CADPAT covers approx 1997 (?).
I don't think it is necessarily fair to say Mitchell was the direct precursor to the woodland pat. That would be the ERDL cam. Apparantly, it was developed in the late 40s but not really used until Vietnam. It was the cam uniform for special usage until woodland was issued in the early 80s.
Thanks for the extra notes here. I genuinely love learning about this stuff 🤙
Thanks for the video! It covers 1:1 my Helikon journey. Got now four of them (two with hood, two without hood). Was also waiting since IWA to get the Mitchell one, just arrived two days ago 🤘 Sizing is a little bit weird though. And yes, even in Germany I got my Sunday roast…..
Very cool! Glad to hear Germany has this amazing tradition too
I've had a few people asking about the difference between the hoodie and without hoodie. Maybe there's some future content
I'll hopefully be at IWA next year. Make sure to say hello if you spot me
Dear Sir, this presentation is the best. You represent the product very well. Reckon besides some background, a little bit of history of the item just add to the charm of the product, even when it's not meant to be. Why am I feeling that I'm sounding like you..!!! Anyway..jolly good show old chap.! Cheers from Australia. Keep them bloopers coming....please!
Ha ha ha... you've been binge watching enough of my content to sound like a Moorlander 😆🍻
I am surprised you have not tried some of the Ridgeline gear on this channel - I bought a Grizzly bear iii smock - which is decent, wind proof and super warm, and I have one of their waterproof smocks, which is an amazing bit of kit, as I have stood in downpour that was akin to being in a running shower - and totally dry inside, while everyone else around me was soaked. Try them out, they might be up your street.
I'll check it out! Just started following them 🤙
@@MoorlanderEDC The jacket I got is called the monsoon - and it quite literally will withstand one.
Never knew the history of the Mitchell camo. Being a former Marine it is interesting...but oh the Desert Night Camo reversible...just like the newest swagman I got. These things are pricey!
I find camo and the science behind it amazing. The history of this stuff is brilliant. Thanks for watching 🤙
Kinda late as always haha, saw the video month back and now it's time to revisit and get some helikon jacket! This one looks great, although the grey one is nice for urban use, but camo one has very interesting pattern which I think wouldn't be too much for city, it is kind of trendy for youth to wear camo things 😂 maybe it will make me look younger haha.
Anyway I wanted to share my sizing problem with helikon and maybe someone slim would have a solution better than I have. As I am 133 pounds and 5.9 feet it is really hard to fit EU S size or it differs a lot in helikon with different clothes, I saw few XS man sized from them but I wonder if they actually make them for real, the thing is as you mentioned with your size (and I'm jealous cuz you have perfect sizing, golden L,XL you will choose any time) it counts for an additional layer which is important, although too large to wear sole jacket.
So please if anybody has experience with good fitting helikon S sized jackets comment me, it's really hard in Czechia to get right size and right product for try on store and sending it back all the time is painful for both me and the store.❤
I've been looking at this jacket for a while, I got the pilgrim and hybrid outback trousers after useing the sfu trousers for years. But I think they should have pit zips for proper ventilation. I was hoping they where going to introduced that in the reversible version.
it doesn't have pit zips but the pits are made of a thin, stretchy, breathable softshell material.
Yes, definitely what the other commenter said. Apologies it took so long to get back to you
I think the XL will last you longer because there is visible less stress on the material, I think it fits you better for activity
Very true. Thanks for watching
Any word from Mil1st when they're going to stock the reversible Swagmans?
The camo patterns in your Wolfhound work really well in that woodland; the green side is for your summer, with the orange for the autumn, to state the obvious.
Totally. I do like the DNC version however the Mitchell camo variant works so well
Leave it with me. I'll ask the team at Mil1st
Great video. The material of the jackets seems like it would snag and rip. Any experience going through briars and thorn bushes? Not that I want to plod through myself but on the oft chance.
I thought the same when I first got mine. I spent last winter climbing through bracken and pushes all over my woods, when spent a day skirmishing with it in the snow. Still in perfect condition. It's not as tough as a proper soft shell however it's really surprised me. I hope that helps
perfect for dropping someone tailing you ... nip into a shop wearing a green jacket , leave wearing a brown jacket .. that'll fool anybody .. lol
We used to try and get into a local night club when we were young. We used to get turned away, swap coats and then rejoin the line again at the back 😂 this would have been perfect
ty for all this review, as you told, size is sometime a problem on helikon items. So pls can u say wich size do u use with 5..11 shirt/jacket ?
I've started paying more attention to their measurements and sizes. The Reversible Wolfhound Jacket here is European XL. I'm usually an EU large
Not fan of these one
Same for the 2 others camo versions, not specially fan (maybe the pencott is so so ok). As another wrote I would prefer a camo side and an 'urban' side
Having a hard time, ordering it from international site to the US. Order was canceled. Any advice?
Try contacting their social media team through either Facebook or Instagram. They might be able to help. There also may have been an initial issue too which they'll resolve shortly. I hope you manage to get it sorted 🤙
For someone ordering in the US, what size do i need to order to get a Large lol
A US large is an EU Xlarge. The size guide on the website is pretty acturate
@@MoorlanderEDC based on the size chart, it looks like the EU Large would fit great actually! The EU XL would be huge from my CM to IN conversions 😂
At this rate I’m going to become a full kit wa*** I might have to unsubscribe