Thanks for making really informative and thorough review!. You did such a great job explaining how all the axles work and showing the resultant rocker from each axle configuration. It was really easy to follow and understand. I appreciate you noticing that they are just fun to cruise around in...and fast. While the primary goal of the frame was to provide an "expression platform" for flatland tricks, I really wanted Arc to be something that felt fast and versatile enough for general skating or cruising around the city with your friends. The speed you were noticing is a function of the rigid, weight-optimized structural design and the specific wheel configuration of bullet profile 84+76 mm, both of which have higher ratios of core to urethane which promotes greater speed (compared to something like 90 and 80 mm). Less urethane flex translates into less energy loss. Fun fact: 84 mm Hydrogen and Undercover wheels weigh less than 80 mm wheels. If anyone has any questions about the frame, I'm happy to answer.
@@StreetBladerBloke I think stability is largely a function of ride height when jumping, so in that regard the Arc feels more stable when jumping. Also the length contributes to front-back stability. For stairs I'd need to see what I prefer and get back to you. I've had no issue doing light stair bashing with either setup. If by flat transitions you mean switching from riding forwards to riding backwards and vice versa...then I can tell you that due to the 5-wheel rocker and tighter pivot spacing it's easier for me to get the Arc to flip around. But I think in practice you just adapt to what you are skating and learn where your edges and pivots are. I hope that helps.
Hell yeah this was exactly the video i was waiting for! Thanks for this detailed review. Also your 360 footage looks absolutely briljant! Such good quality. Very impressive powerfull skating aswell.
In addition to the SL review, could you also go over the differences, pros and cons and overall feel of the integrated liner vs the Intuition liner for example the FR1 and Intuition combo. Been wondering a lot about this lately. Thanks!
Yes, that video will definitely cover that info. I think more people might be asking the question "What's it like going from plastic urban boot with removable liner to an integrated liner carbon boot?" than are asking the question "Is the FR SL a good boot?" It's certainly something I was wondering about before deciding to take the plunge on an $800 carbon boot
This is an excellent explanation of how I feel about these frames. I went from Endless 90 to these and felt amazing. The side-so-side wobble was there, but it only took some adjusting to understand the rocker, and I was golden. I switched because I wanted a five-wheel frame, but I also felt like the Endless 90 was too tall for my liking and when I considered going to the Endless 80 these came out and I haven't looked back since.
Yeah I’ve been happy with the SL. I wasn’t sure about a carbon slalom boot for free skating, but I love it and prefer it to my FR1. Things are definitely more hectic with 2, lol. Luckily he sleeps much better at night than our daughter ever did as a baby, which is the hardest part with a newborn. Hopefully that trend sticks 🤞 Hope all is well and you’re getting out in some of this nice weather we’ve had
Thanks so much! Trying to get back to uploading more. I broke the collarbone in early September and didn’t get back on skates until late November. Then the holidays and winter came and in January we had the baby so it’s been tough to find time. But I’m trying and I appreciate the support! I’ve been skating plenty, but it’s mostly for exercise at lunch time out in the suburbs. Maybe I should make a video about those sessions, but I never bring the camera because it’s not as interesting as my city skates
@@rerollinginline Yeah I remember you had the injury, how are you feeling now, how was the recovery ? I think any content from you regarding skating or life, would be interesting, you seem like a very genuine person. Once again congratulations, wish you and your fam all the best, keep it up ! we here to support you, always !
Really appreciate that, thanks. The recovery was actually pretty good and luckily we have a Peloton that kept my cardio up for the 12 weeks I took off. The shoulder still isn’t 100%, but it’s like 90% and still feeling better. It only hurts if like I sleep on it weird or really overuse it. I’ve always wondered what folks want to see. I’m sure everyone is different. I’ve traditionally assumed if I’m not uploading city skates that people don’t want to see it because that’s most of the channel, but I’m going to be trying different stuff like general setup talks, product reviews etc. Oh and I’m definitely making a magic slide tutorial this spring. Just waiting for nicer weather. Hope you’re having a good spring as well!
@@rerollinginline thank you sir, the spring started pretty well I might say, hopefully more better days are coming. I’m looking forward of seeing your future videos, stay safe and have a good one 🙏🏽
I've never seen an inline skater used the term "adjective" in a narration lol! I love the format of your edit; you've always been an impressive channel and it's nice to see your SOUL SLIDE TUTORIAL is 44k views (at the time of this writing). At never once was there a boring moment in this edit and I'm glad you had fun practicing a new style of skating. Keep up your good effort & continue to enjoy bro
Thank you so much, truly appreciated! Haha, “adjective” is what comes out of my mouth when I just hit record and talk. I’ve gotta start writing scripts for videos. Happy skating :)
Thanks for this wonderful and informative review! Endless Arcs really seem great for someone trying to get into wizard/flat land tricks. It is two(maybe three) wizard frames in one from what you mentioned. PR wizard frames which can be changed into Advance Wizard frames by adding a bigger wheel to the front and back. Definitely looking forward to your review on the FR SL boots!
Hi! I always love your vids. Any interest in trying out the Arc CS for a more playful frame with similar wheelbase to endless 90? After watching the stuttering skater's latest vid "Calculated Risk", i saw he was killing it on the Arc CS which makese tempted to try them.
Thaks you very much for your videos. I am 59 years old and your videos have been very usefull (no crazy things, allways safety and responsible skating). My favorite skate are the FR Igor, I changed my original seting to Endless 90 (influenced by you) 20 month ago , it was a great change, improved the speed and the safety. I changed 5 days ago to FR 283r/100-90mm , it feels much more lighter and more confortable . What is your opinion about this new sting I just switched?
Hmmm. With these mixed wheel-size designs, what do you think of that idea in general? Like, if you sized a frame's wheelbase for your foot (in my case a roughly 284mm wheelbase) and then stuffed whatever combo of wheels you could under there, do you think that would make a good design? For my example, I could do two 84s with two 110s on either end. Or I could bump it up to two 90s and two 100s. My theory is that having a wheelbase the same as your foot length is the ideal balance between maneuverability and stability for an all-rounder frame. Should theoretically let you do urban, flatland, slalom, and skate park shenanigans all relatively well. Bonus points if the rocker (which should theoretically be mild like how the Endless 90s are) has the lowest wheel be the third wheel back on a 4 wheel skate.
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I've been looking at the Arc CS, Arc 165, and Endless 90 frames trying to figure out which setup would fit me best.
Bro im from Bangladesh.. I want to buy a professional skating shoe and its have so much of speed. Whice one should i buy..please bro reply. 🙏🙏🙏...love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Tried the arc on my adapt 165 boot , I felt a way lot slower when I went for distance rides. Back on my powerslide endless 90 lr frames. I feel they are way faster. Also, 84 mm dot down will give you a flat setup
Hi! Thanks for the comments. Which wheels were you using on the Arc? Were they the same ones that you had on the 90 LR? Also the boot is going to make a big difference in how you create power on each stride especially given that one of the boots was Trinity (which may give you some extra forefoot stiffness). I've heard from a couple Adapt owners that they can skate faster on hinged cuff boots that have a more natural forward flex on each stride. In general when I've done A/B tests between Arc and the Endless 90 on the same 165 boot with the same set of wheels and bearings the speed between the two has felt roughly equivalent to me. This has to do with the incredibly rigid structural design of the Arc frame. I've been skating with 84 mm, black axle dot down and it's a lot of fun. As Jim pointed out in his video it's technically an anti-rocker setup (by just a hair). But in practice it ends up being more like pseudo-flat due to the wheels squishing under your weight. Having 5 wheels flat on the ground really gives you a lot to push against, so you can get some good speed and stability.
Thanks for watching and the comment! I probably won't be testing this 5 wheel rockered frame as a distance riding setup. I'd likely take my Endless 90 3x110 out for that kind of skate. I am curious to see how the 84mm dot down feels as a flat setup, but also probably not something I'd use often. But without actual evidence and just based completely on "feel" I was surprised at how these felt for general skating.
@@endlessblading 486 / 5 000 Hi, Yes tested over a period of 3 weeks in the 165mn version. An outing almost every day. A frame not so bad to replace a 5x80. It's a little shorter, a little lighter and the wheels mix almost the same way, no worries there. The only real concern for me is that I own a lot of skates with different setups. I often change and I transfer the wheels from one setup to another. Arc = 4x84+6x76, wheel transfer becomes complicated^^. O7
Yes the broken collarbone is healed but the shoulder overall feels mostly good, but still isn’t quite 100%. But for skating, yes I’m back and good to go. I started skating again in late November, then winter and holidays came, then a new baby in January. But I’m trying to get back to uploading more!
Great review, all my questioned answered! I’m currently setting up an: UFR Antony Pottier FR Boot (White) FR Round (80mm) (White) and NN Dragon (5x80) vs Endless arc es(80x76) strictly for wizard skating / flatland skating. Any Suggestions?
Thanks for watching and the comment! Strictly for flatland skating, I'm not the expert but I can say I like the Endless Arc (84/76) better than my NN Dragon 5x80. Again, not an expert and I've only been on these Endless Arc for 5 skates so far. Though you're talking about the Arc ES and either way you go you'll need UFS mount and I have only have tried 165 mount, so it's really tough to say.
Wicked set up. I had just convinced myself I don't need these frames until I saw this. Do you feel this rides like an 84mm or 76mm when general urban skating for speed and ability to roll over road debris? While I like to dabble occassionally in the flatground stuff, I like to explore the urban environment more and flip-flopping between these and something like the Roka 100/80 (Wizard Advanced clone). Any thoughts on these?
A lot of the speed on these comes from the push, not the cruise. A good fit for me because I usually have "busy feet" and do a lot of striding, crossovers etc to keep the tempo. They're very rigid, responsive and low to the ground so you can get a lot of power on a stride. It almost feels like a very stable 80mm setup to me. Stable because of the wheelbase. I fortunately don't roll over much debris, but a 5-wheel rocker absorbs rough ground fairly well. Imperfections ease their way through the frame's length because of the rocker. I've got an urban flow edit that'll be uploaded within a couple of weeks on these frames and it was a great session. Haven't tried them in center city Philly yet, but hopefully I will soon. As for the 80/100 frames: they seem like something I'd only want to use for flatland stuff because of the length and weight. The wheelbase of these Arc frames was part of the appeal to me. I don't want something crazy long, but I do want some length to be able to lean into flatland movements. But.. I've never used a setup like those 80/100 so I can't really comment.
@@rerollinginline I’m 6,1 and wear a size 13/13.5 show. Would this five wheels be a good set up for a beginner who plans to only skate in the city streets and bike lanes.
Hello, I want to take your advice, please🙏🏻 I want to order an inline skate, but I am confused about some models. I am confused between these models -Seba High Light Carbon Competition -Seba High Light Carbon -Micro Delta Force thank u 🙏🏻
I’ve never tried any of these skates, but it looks like HL Carbon has plastic cuff and HL Carbon Competition is carbon. Delta Force us very similar to carbon competition. It’s possible they fit differently like one is wider or narrower as well. Again, I don’t personally know. Asking the shop you’re buying from my help.
Yeah, I'm learning the best option is to have multiple setups because some days I want my Endless 90 and others I want something else. I need more boots, lol.
Hello, I was searching for your video demonstrating most of the common ways to stop on CZcams and found it wasn't on here. I found it on reddit, but I was wondering if you could upload it to your CZcams as well? I've looked at a lot of stopping videos for reference and yours was the most helpful. Also loved your soul slide tutorial video and think you have a gift for teaching. Can't wait for your magic slide tutorial.
Really appreciate the compliment, thank you! Since you asked... I went ahead and uploaded that video to CZcams as unlisted. Unlisted means it still isn't searchable, but you can add it to a playlist or something if you want. As long as you have the URL, you can watch it. I made it unlisted because this comment has given me the idea to record a new version where I at least explain how each works and when you might use them. Still not full-on tutorials of the stops, but a good reference. Thanks for the inspiration, and here's the video: czcams.com/video/34r1ZS2Trq4/video.html
@@rerollinginline Awesome thank you :) Looking forward to that too now! It would be awesome to have both, because the short reference video is great to show friends or others what is actually possible, without committing too much time to it.
I personally still like my Endless 90 with Hydrogen wheels on my FR SL boot if I had to pick only one setup. Recommending a single setup is hard because every skater has their own preferences and it depends on what kind of skating you’re doing.
They’re quite different and it would really depend on what you’d want to use them for. The 90s are a great all-around frame and the Arc are designed more for flatland/wizard skating. However, you can definitely urban skate the Arc and do wizard stuff with the 90s.
Depends on your boot size. Until 41eu I'd recommend 90s. 42eu and up, I'd go 100s. I have 42eu fr1 setup and prefer 100s, more front back stability for downhills or stairs. 90s feel a bit wobbly at high speeds for me.
As @skuko1980 mentioned, it depends on your foot size, but also personal preference. I like 90 because at 276mm wheelbase, it’s still longer than my 265mm feet, but not by too much, so I get stability. I do a lot of sprints and crossovers etc and the 100s don’t feel as good in that area for me. But if you were to watch my city flows you probably wouldn’t notice the difference just by watching which frame I’m using because I have a bunch of videos on both 90 and 100
@@rerollinginline yeah i change them up from time to time, but every time I put 90s on, i miss the speed and added stability of the 100s, even though I do appreciate the higher agility on the 90s.
@@skuko1980 Ive been using endless 100 and wizard NR100 for allmost 2 years now on a size 41 eu boot and ive had no issues with clipping wheels on crossovers. From my experience you quickly adapt to it and it just becomes muscle memory. After a while you just kind of know blindly where your wheels are. Im a big fan of just cruising around town or doing some longer distance stuff and the 100mm wheels are so easy to keep at a high speed while still being very agile due to the constantly increasing rocker. I just put on new wheels and i have to say i kind of prefer the more subtle rocker feeling for just general cruising. My old wheels had a rocker of i would say around 1 cm and while they became very fun and playfull i sometimes felt they got a bit nervous under speeds. Still controllable but a bit more wobbly at times.
If Endless offered to give me these frames as a gift, I would politely decline. Imagine if the outer wheels wear out, then it is impossible to maintain the initial configuration. The middle rockering is also either too pronounced after a while or completely lost after wheel rotation. Classic case of overengineering. Also, it's not physically possible for this setup to be as fast as 4x90. If you have several wheels at your disposal, you can certainly have a lot of fun Wizzard Skating these frames.
Hi, In fact, it's pretty simple to keep the base rocker even with wear. As in all types of frames, there is a specific method to switch the wheels. For the rest, I pretty much agree. Powerslide's "DH 350 Trinity" (czcams.com/video/H_EYfpWgGX8/video.html) inspired this fashion for big wheels at the end of the frame. But as much as the concept takes on its full meaning downhill with 125 wheels, I don't understand the interest in "Wizard" and even less in "city cruising". The wheel is the heaviest part of a skate and an additional friction on the ground. It must bring a real interest to compensate for these two defects. However, I would like to thank the author of this video for his detailed presentation. I find it very interesting. o7
@@fernandosantos566 You are wrong two times. There is no "method" to keep the initial rocker on a mixed wheel frame bc you cant switch outer wheels with inner wheels. There were mixed frames from other brands such as e.g. Rollerblade 110/100/100/110 frames long before the DH350 frames hit the market.
Thanks for your comments! I'm glad you brought up the point about maintaining the initial rocker with two different wheel sizes. In a traditional configuration where you have all the wheels the same size most skaters will wear the outer wheels more over time. One can choose to rotate to keep the natural rocker from accentuating too much. Or you can choose to just flip your wheels in place to develop a deeper rocker. With the specific design choice of 84 mm and 76 mm wheels we have found that the natural tendency of most skaters to wear their outer wheels faster is compensated by the fact that the 84 mm wheels make less revolutions than the 76 mm wheels. In other words the 84 mm wheels wear at a slower rate. Multiple skaters testing the frames over a period of about one year all had similar results with wheel wear. We found that the rocker stayed fairly consistent for us. Regarding the frame being as fast as 4x90, it's definitely physically possible. I intentionally engineered the performance of this structure to deliver faster-than-expected speed. Jim's surprise at the speed is a common reaction. I had the same reaction myself initially, and all the skaters that tested the frame felt similarly. Without going too deep into the engineering, the gist of is that a skate is a mechanical system that connects one's foot to wheels on the ground. Any part of that system that bends when you apply force (on a stride) is going to cause losses to occur in the load path. The less bending and losses, the more efficiently the power from your muscles gets transferred to the ground. Arc was designed to minimize those losses between the boot and the wheels.
you pronounce the longitude more like lonjitude in this video, which is the wrong way to pronounce it, you should use the other sound which is -> ga not -> ja
Thanks for making really informative and thorough review!. You did such a great job explaining how all the axles work and showing the resultant rocker from each axle configuration. It was really easy to follow and understand. I appreciate you noticing that they are just fun to cruise around in...and fast. While the primary goal of the frame was to provide an "expression platform" for flatland tricks, I really wanted Arc to be something that felt fast and versatile enough for general skating or cruising around the city with your friends. The speed you were noticing is a function of the rigid, weight-optimized structural design and the specific wheel configuration of bullet profile 84+76 mm, both of which have higher ratios of core to urethane which promotes greater speed (compared to something like 90 and 80 mm). Less urethane flex translates into less energy loss. Fun fact: 84 mm Hydrogen and Undercover wheels weigh less than 80 mm wheels.
If anyone has any questions about the frame, I'm happy to answer.
Would you say in relation to endless 90s for urban, these would be more stable on jumps, stairs and flat transitions?
Thanks for making such amazing skate products! I absolutely love my endless 100 and will be buying arc soon
@@photomorti You're welcome! Thanks for supporting what we are doing. It's greatly appreciated!
@@StreetBladerBloke I think stability is largely a function of ride height when jumping, so in that regard the Arc feels more stable when jumping. Also the length contributes to front-back stability. For stairs I'd need to see what I prefer and get back to you. I've had no issue doing light stair bashing with either setup. If by flat transitions you mean switching from riding forwards to riding backwards and vice versa...then I can tell you that due to the 5-wheel rocker and tighter pivot spacing it's easier for me to get the Arc to flip around. But I think in practice you just adapt to what you are skating and learn where your edges and pivots are. I hope that helps.
@@endlessblading with 80mm and silver(or black) axles up, are they noticeably more maneuverable than pr76?
Friend of mine has the Arc as well and he absolutely loves it. Great wizard skating, man! And I love those stair rides. 🙂🤘
If you’re ever near Philadelphia we need to get together so you can bash the art museum steps from the Rocky movie 😂 Thanks for watching!
@@rerollinginline I _really_ have to make a big skating trip to the States one day! 😊Philly’s certainly on the list of places I’ve got to visit. 👍
@@rerollinginline So. I've also just ordered the ARC, the Mercury version. _Finally._ 😀 Gonna mount it on my FR Spins. Very excited!
Awesome setup bru! Thanks for the show and tell! Glad to see you back in action!
Thanks, I appreciate the support as always!
Hell yeah this was exactly the video i was waiting for! Thanks for this detailed review. Also your 360 footage looks absolutely briljant! Such good quality. Very impressive powerfull skating aswell.
As always, I appreciate you watching and the support!
We want to see the review on the FR SL boot!! : )
I know, it’s coming! I appreciate the comment, thank you 🙏
In addition to the SL review, could you also go over the differences, pros and cons and overall feel of the integrated liner vs the Intuition liner for example the FR1 and Intuition combo. Been wondering a lot about this lately. Thanks!
Yes, that video will definitely cover that info. I think more people might be asking the question "What's it like going from plastic urban boot with removable liner to an integrated liner carbon boot?" than are asking the question "Is the FR SL a good boot?" It's certainly something I was wondering about before deciding to take the plunge on an $800 carbon boot
This is an excellent explanation of how I feel about these frames. I went from Endless 90 to these and felt amazing. The side-so-side wobble was there, but it only took some adjusting to understand the rocker, and I was golden. I switched because I wanted a five-wheel frame, but I also felt like the Endless 90 was too tall for my liking and when I considered going to the Endless 80 these came out and I haven't looked back since.
the arc is much longer than the endless 90
Damn, you make skating look so easy. Love it!
Thanks so much!
FR SL!! Amazing setup! And congrats on #2!, that's when the fun really begins 😉
Yeah I’ve been happy with the SL. I wasn’t sure about a carbon slalom boot for free skating, but I love it and prefer it to my FR1. Things are definitely more hectic with 2, lol. Luckily he sleeps much better at night than our daughter ever did as a baby, which is the hardest part with a newborn. Hopefully that trend sticks 🤞 Hope all is well and you’re getting out in some of this nice weather we’ve had
Really informative video, thanks man. I have been looking at the SL´s for a while now, they look amazing looking forward to a review of them. Cheers
Great review thank you. I’d love to see one on your 90s setup
welcome back ! And congratulations on your new baby
Thanks so much! Trying to get back to uploading more. I broke the collarbone in early September and didn’t get back on skates until late November. Then the holidays and winter came and in January we had the baby so it’s been tough to find time. But I’m trying and I appreciate the support! I’ve been skating plenty, but it’s mostly for exercise at lunch time out in the suburbs. Maybe I should make a video about those sessions, but I never bring the camera because it’s not as interesting as my city skates
@@rerollinginline Yeah I remember you had the injury, how are you feeling now, how was the recovery ? I think any content from you regarding skating or life, would be interesting, you seem like a very genuine person. Once again congratulations, wish you and your fam all the best, keep it up ! we here to support you, always !
Really appreciate that, thanks. The recovery was actually pretty good and luckily we have a Peloton that kept my cardio up for the 12 weeks I took off. The shoulder still isn’t 100%, but it’s like 90% and still feeling better. It only hurts if like I sleep on it weird or really overuse it.
I’ve always wondered what folks want to see. I’m sure everyone is different. I’ve traditionally assumed if I’m not uploading city skates that people don’t want to see it because that’s most of the channel, but I’m going to be trying different stuff like general setup talks, product reviews etc. Oh and I’m definitely making a magic slide tutorial this spring. Just waiting for nicer weather. Hope you’re having a good spring as well!
@@rerollinginline thank you sir, the spring started pretty well I might say, hopefully more better days are coming. I’m looking forward of seeing your future videos, stay safe and have a good one 🙏🏽
Crossovers is my fav way to get speed and go up hills. Great overview, I really need a carbon skate that can handle this frame!
Ain’t nothin’ in this life a good strong crossover can’t get you through. Would love to see you shred these frames!
I've never seen an inline skater used the term "adjective" in a narration lol! I love the format of your edit; you've always been an impressive channel and it's nice to see your SOUL SLIDE TUTORIAL is 44k views (at the time of this writing). At never once was there a boring moment in this edit and I'm glad you had fun practicing a new style of skating. Keep up your good effort & continue to enjoy bro
Thank you so much, truly appreciated! Haha, “adjective” is what comes out of my mouth when I just hit record and talk. I’ve gotta start writing scripts for videos. Happy skating :)
Thanks for this wonderful and informative review! Endless Arcs really seem great for someone trying to get into wizard/flat land tricks. It is two(maybe three) wizard frames in one from what you mentioned. PR wizard frames which can be changed into Advance Wizard frames by adding a bigger wheel to the front and back.
Definitely looking forward to your review on the FR SL boots!
Thanks I’m glad you liked it!
At long last, welcome back mate! Also, stop making me want to buy more frames 😂
Thank you! Hopefully I'll be uploading more in the coming months. As long as your wallet can handle it, you can't have too many frames!
Hi! I always love your vids. Any interest in trying out the Arc CS for a more playful frame with similar wheelbase to endless 90? After watching the stuttering skater's latest vid "Calculated Risk", i saw he was killing it on the Arc CS which makese tempted to try them.
Question. Arc vs 5x80? Any real difference besides length?
Thaks you very much for your videos. I am 59 years old and your videos have been very usefull (no crazy things, allways safety and responsible skating). My favorite skate are the FR Igor, I changed my original seting to Endless 90 (influenced by you) 20 month ago , it was a great change, improved the speed and the safety. I changed 5 days ago to FR 283r/100-90mm , it feels much more lighter and more confortable . What is your opinion about this new sting I just switched?
Hmmm. With these mixed wheel-size designs, what do you think of that idea in general? Like, if you sized a frame's wheelbase for your foot (in my case a roughly 284mm wheelbase) and then stuffed whatever combo of wheels you could under there, do you think that would make a good design? For my example, I could do two 84s with two 110s on either end. Or I could bump it up to two 90s and two 100s.
My theory is that having a wheelbase the same as your foot length is the ideal balance between maneuverability and stability for an all-rounder frame. Should theoretically let you do urban, flatland, slalom, and skate park shenanigans all relatively well. Bonus points if the rocker (which should theoretically be mild like how the Endless 90s are) has the lowest wheel be the third wheel back on a 4 wheel skate.
Hi, Can I ask for beginner to intermediate. What would you suggest to get? Endless 90 or this ARC?
Thanks for the detailed explanation. I've been looking at the Arc CS, Arc 165, and Endless 90 frames trying to figure out which setup would fit me best.
Basically the 90 will be faster but the arc will be more swively
Honestly I recommend the arc there’s just something special about the arc
Great info mate..
Thanks, I appreciate it!
Really enjoy watching your videos. Recently purchased a set of Macroblade 90s. Really enjoying them. I’m curious what knee pads you might recommend?
Bro im from Bangladesh.. I want to buy a professional skating shoe and its have so much of speed. Whice one should i buy..please bro reply. 🙏🙏🙏...love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩
Tried the arc on my adapt 165 boot , I felt a way lot slower when I went for distance rides. Back on my powerslide endless 90 lr frames. I feel they are way faster. Also, 84 mm dot down will give you a flat setup
hi,
Same, I stay on 4x90 165mn for cruising in town. For the wizard, 5x76 UFS or 5x80 trinity, depending on the environment.
o7
Hi! Thanks for the comments. Which wheels were you using on the Arc? Were they the same ones that you had on the 90 LR? Also the boot is going to make a big difference in how you create power on each stride especially given that one of the boots was Trinity (which may give you some extra forefoot stiffness). I've heard from a couple Adapt owners that they can skate faster on hinged cuff boots that have a more natural forward flex on each stride. In general when I've done A/B tests between Arc and the Endless 90 on the same 165 boot with the same set of wheels and bearings the speed between the two has felt roughly equivalent to me. This has to do with the incredibly rigid structural design of the Arc frame.
I've been skating with 84 mm, black axle dot down and it's a lot of fun. As Jim pointed out in his video it's technically an anti-rocker setup (by just a hair). But in practice it ends up being more like pseudo-flat due to the wheels squishing under your weight. Having 5 wheels flat on the ground really gives you a lot to push against, so you can get some good speed and stability.
@@fernandosantos566 Hi Fernando! Have you had a chance to skate the Arc frames yet?
Thanks for watching and the comment! I probably won't be testing this 5 wheel rockered frame as a distance riding setup. I'd likely take my Endless 90 3x110 out for that kind of skate. I am curious to see how the 84mm dot down feels as a flat setup, but also probably not something I'd use often. But without actual evidence and just based completely on "feel" I was surprised at how these felt for general skating.
@@endlessblading 486 / 5 000
Hi,
Yes tested over a period of 3 weeks in the 165mn version. An outing almost every day.
A frame not so bad to replace a 5x80. It's a little shorter, a little lighter and the wheels mix almost the same way, no worries there.
The only real concern for me is that I own a lot of skates with different setups. I often change and I transfer the wheels from one setup to another. Arc = 4x84+6x76, wheel transfer becomes complicated^^.
O7
Sweet, you're back. Injuries all healed up?
Yes the broken collarbone is healed but the shoulder overall feels mostly good, but still isn’t quite 100%. But for skating, yes I’m back and good to go. I started skating again in late November, then winter and holidays came, then a new baby in January. But I’m trying to get back to uploading more!
Great review, all my questioned answered!
I’m currently setting up an:
UFR Antony Pottier FR Boot (White)
FR Round (80mm) (White)
and NN Dragon (5x80)
vs Endless arc es(80x76)
strictly for wizard skating / flatland skating.
Any Suggestions?
Thanks for watching and the comment! Strictly for flatland skating, I'm not the expert but I can say I like the Endless Arc (84/76) better than my NN Dragon 5x80. Again, not an expert and I've only been on these Endless Arc for 5 skates so far. Though you're talking about the Arc ES and either way you go you'll need UFS mount and I have only have tried 165 mount, so it's really tough to say.
Wicked set up. I had just convinced myself I don't need these frames until I saw this. Do you feel this rides like an 84mm or 76mm when general urban skating for speed and ability to roll over road debris? While I like to dabble occassionally in the flatground stuff, I like to explore the urban environment more and flip-flopping between these and something like the Roka 100/80 (Wizard Advanced clone). Any thoughts on these?
A lot of the speed on these comes from the push, not the cruise. A good fit for me because I usually have "busy feet" and do a lot of striding, crossovers etc to keep the tempo. They're very rigid, responsive and low to the ground so you can get a lot of power on a stride. It almost feels like a very stable 80mm setup to me. Stable because of the wheelbase. I fortunately don't roll over much debris, but a 5-wheel rocker absorbs rough ground fairly well. Imperfections ease their way through the frame's length because of the rocker. I've got an urban flow edit that'll be uploaded within a couple of weeks on these frames and it was a great session. Haven't tried them in center city Philly yet, but hopefully I will soon.
As for the 80/100 frames: they seem like something I'd only want to use for flatland stuff because of the length and weight. The wheelbase of these Arc frames was part of the appeal to me. I don't want something crazy long, but I do want some length to be able to lean into flatland movements. But.. I've never used a setup like those 80/100 so I can't really comment.
@@rerollinginline I’m 6,1 and wear a size 13/13.5 show. Would this five wheels be a good set up for a beginner who plans to only skate in the city streets and bike lanes.
Hello, I want to take your advice, please🙏🏻
I want to order an inline skate, but I am confused about some models.
I am confused between these models
-Seba High Light Carbon Competition
-Seba High Light Carbon
-Micro Delta Force
thank u 🙏🏻
I’ve never tried any of these skates, but it looks like HL Carbon has plastic cuff and HL Carbon Competition is carbon. Delta Force us very similar to carbon competition. It’s possible they fit differently like one is wider or narrower as well. Again, I don’t personally know. Asking the shop you’re buying from my help.
@@rerollinginline Thank you for your reply🙏🏻🤍
Tough choice Arc, endless 90 or rockin mix 4 frames for urban and jumps and flatland random tricks
Yeah, I'm learning the best option is to have multiple setups because some days I want my Endless 90 and others I want something else. I need more boots, lol.
Hello, I was searching for your video demonstrating most of the common ways to stop on CZcams and found it wasn't on here. I found it on reddit, but I was wondering if you could upload it to your CZcams as well? I've looked at a lot of stopping videos for reference and yours was the most helpful. Also loved your soul slide tutorial video and think you have a gift for teaching. Can't wait for your magic slide tutorial.
Really appreciate the compliment, thank you! Since you asked... I went ahead and uploaded that video to CZcams as unlisted. Unlisted means it still isn't searchable, but you can add it to a playlist or something if you want. As long as you have the URL, you can watch it. I made it unlisted because this comment has given me the idea to record a new version where I at least explain how each works and when you might use them. Still not full-on tutorials of the stops, but a good reference. Thanks for the inspiration, and here's the video: czcams.com/video/34r1ZS2Trq4/video.html
@@rerollinginline Awesome thank you :) Looking forward to that too now! It would be awesome to have both, because the short reference video is great to show friends or others what is actually possible, without committing too much time to it.
out of all the setups which one is your favourite and which one would you recommend to urban rollerbladers like yourself
He already said it, 4x90.
I personally still like my Endless 90 with Hydrogen wheels on my FR SL boot if I had to pick only one setup. Recommending a single setup is hard because every skater has their own preferences and it depends on what kind of skating you’re doing.
How do the Endless ARC compare to Endless 90 frames?
They’re quite different and it would really depend on what you’d want to use them for. The 90s are a great all-around frame and the Arc are designed more for flatland/wizard skating. However, you can definitely urban skate the Arc and do wizard stuff with the 90s.
Liked. Mostly urban skating, would you recommend endless 90 or 100?
Depends on your boot size. Until 41eu I'd recommend 90s. 42eu and up, I'd go 100s. I have 42eu fr1 setup and prefer 100s, more front back stability for downhills or stairs. 90s feel a bit wobbly at high speeds for me.
As @skuko1980 mentioned, it depends on your foot size, but also personal preference. I like 90 because at 276mm wheelbase, it’s still longer than my 265mm feet, but not by too much, so I get stability. I do a lot of sprints and crossovers etc and the 100s don’t feel as good in that area for me. But if you were to watch my city flows you probably wouldn’t notice the difference just by watching which frame I’m using because I have a bunch of videos on both 90 and 100
@@rerollinginline yeah i change them up from time to time, but every time I put 90s on, i miss the speed and added stability of the 100s, even though I do appreciate the higher agility on the 90s.
@@skuko1980 Ive been using endless 100 and wizard NR100 for allmost 2 years now on a size 41 eu boot and ive had no issues with clipping wheels on crossovers. From my experience you quickly adapt to it and it just becomes muscle memory.
After a while you just kind of know blindly where your wheels are.
Im a big fan of just cruising around town or doing some longer distance stuff and the 100mm wheels are so easy to keep at a high speed while still being very agile due to the constantly increasing rocker.
I just put on new wheels and i have to say i kind of prefer the more subtle rocker feeling for just general cruising. My old wheels had a rocker of i would say around 1 cm and while they became very fun and playfull i sometimes felt they got a bit nervous under speeds. Still controllable but a bit more wobbly at times.
@@photomorti A rocker of 1cm? That cant be true. It would mean the inner wheels are 100mm and the outer wheels have to be 80mm.
I'll stick with my wizards, but thx for the vid.
One of these days I’ll try a wizard skate
If Endless offered to give me these frames as a gift, I would politely decline.
Imagine if the outer wheels wear out, then it is impossible to maintain the initial configuration. The middle rockering is also either too pronounced after a while or completely lost after wheel rotation.
Classic case of overengineering.
Also, it's not physically possible for this setup to be as fast as 4x90.
If you have several wheels at your disposal, you can certainly have a lot of fun Wizzard Skating these frames.
Hi,
In fact, it's pretty simple to keep the base rocker even with wear. As in all types of frames, there is a specific method to switch the wheels.
For the rest, I pretty much agree.
Powerslide's "DH 350 Trinity" (czcams.com/video/H_EYfpWgGX8/video.html) inspired this fashion for big wheels at the end of the frame.
But as much as the concept takes on its full meaning downhill with 125 wheels, I don't understand the interest in "Wizard" and even less in "city cruising".
The wheel is the heaviest part of a skate and an additional friction on the ground. It must bring a real interest to compensate for these two defects.
However, I would like to thank the author of this video for his detailed presentation. I find it very interesting.
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@@fernandosantos566 You are wrong two times.
There is no "method" to keep the initial rocker on a mixed wheel frame bc you cant switch outer wheels with inner wheels.
There were mixed frames from other brands such as e.g. Rollerblade 110/100/100/110 frames long before the DH350 frames hit the market.
@@freshasadaisy4782 i dunno man. I have the mix4 rockin frames and even after 300+ km of city skating, the rocker is still there.
Thanks for your comments! I'm glad you brought up the point about maintaining the initial rocker with two different wheel sizes. In a traditional configuration where you have all the wheels the same size most skaters will wear the outer wheels more over time. One can choose to rotate to keep the natural rocker from accentuating too much. Or you can choose to just flip your wheels in place to develop a deeper rocker. With the specific design choice of 84 mm and 76 mm wheels we have found that the natural tendency of most skaters to wear their outer wheels faster is compensated by the fact that the 84 mm wheels make less revolutions than the 76 mm wheels. In other words the 84 mm wheels wear at a slower rate. Multiple skaters testing the frames over a period of about one year all had similar results with wheel wear. We found that the rocker stayed fairly consistent for us.
Regarding the frame being as fast as 4x90, it's definitely physically possible. I intentionally engineered the performance of this structure to deliver faster-than-expected speed. Jim's surprise at the speed is a common reaction. I had the same reaction myself initially, and all the skaters that tested the frame felt similarly. Without going too deep into the engineering, the gist of is that a skate is a mechanical system that connects one's foot to wheels on the ground. Any part of that system that bends when you apply force (on a stride) is going to cause losses to occur in the load path. The less bending and losses, the more efficiently the power from your muscles gets transferred to the ground. Arc was designed to minimize those losses between the boot and the wheels.
@@freshasadaisy4782 As far as I'm concerned, I switch my wheels and I keep my rocker perfectly ;b.
you pronounce the longitude more like lonjitude in this video, which is the wrong way to pronounce it, you should use the other sound which is -> ga not -> ja