Why Do We Need Yearly Flu Shots, but Not Measles Shots?
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- Unlike measles, Influenza requires a fresh shot of vaccines every year. But why?
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Clarification: While measles is the poster child for lifelong immunity, folks born between 1957 and 1989 are likely to have only received one dose of the vaccine. And that's less effective than the two-dose protocol we've used since 1989, so it can be good for those people to check with a doctor that they really did develop immunity.
Anti-vaxx jokes never get old. Just like the kids.
Savage. 👌
@Ryan Lord A Enough that the major cause of the rise in average life span is related to children not dying very young. I mean, you probably are just being a pedant, but whatever.
@Ryan Lord A Not all. Only about 50% didn't reach 5 years of age. It was such a wonderful time to be a child back them.
@Mike H " the overall health of future generations is getting worse and worse" I'd like to know where you take this info from. We're living healthier and longer lives than ever before in history. And child mortality didn't fall by "a bit": it's more like 90%. I encourage you to read a bit more on these topics before forming your opinions.
2022 deep in a corona virus pandemic. Vacation is hyper relevant
Kid: when I grow up
Axti-Vaxx parent: woah i'm gonna stop you right there
my favorite thing nowdays, and by favorite i mean it sucks, is all the kids whos anti vax parents (either mom dad or both) prevent them from taking a vaccine and they go in desperation to r/legaladvice to see how they can get vaccinated without their parents knowing
@@misanthropiclusion Once a kid turns 18, parental consent is no longer required. They can just go to any local health clinic or their regular doctor (if they have one). Heck, pharmacies like Walgreens & Walmart offer vaccines, too, either free or low cost.
@@KristenRowenPliske they'd be lucky to turn 18 without serious consequences.
@@yanuehara8017 you're overstating the case. Yes, vaccines are important, but most anti-vax kids do grow up without any problems. After all, Humanity as a species survived long enough to develop this technology. Plus you need to be exposed to the virus in order to get sick. Herd Immunity largely prevents that, so in a way, those kids are protected by vaccines despite their parents.💉
@@AxxLAfriku Because you're a shallow prick, obviously.
It's kinda weird seeing Olivia without her glasses and wearing a beanie. Not bad, just unexpected.
I think it suits her well.
She has become 1 of my favourites. Her public speaking skills have improved.
If it wasn't for her voice I wouldn't have known it's her
Looks good.
Hope it's not because it's cold in the studio. Maybe get Hank turn the heating up.
r/unexpected
I'm 10 years old and my mom took me to a measles party so I could get measles immunity that way. I have started sending her information about gonorrhea and syphilis.
😂😂😂 That didn't go where I was expecting, good one!
I love it.
Good luck, they are hard to convert
ConmanTheGreatest 101 r/whooosh
@@TheLivingGuildpact Only after I saw the whooosh did I get the real joke, thanks for that!
What do you call an un-vaccinated 2 year old having a tantrum?
A mid-life crisis.
Edit: Not my joke btw, stolen from reddit.
*_O O F_*
Do you know what's sad? A six year old girl here in Houston just died of the flu last week, so that joke was kinda true for her. Ditto for the little ones that died of measles. (not that the joke wasn't funny; nurses have a morbid sense of humor).
@@KristenRowenPliske That's terrible. It's sad to see a world regressing scientifically, especially when it causes serious harm and death. Jokes like these shouldn't have to be said but people are arrogant and ignorant, and the second the forget about the idiots in our world, that'll be our downfall. Keep meme-ing, everyone.
@Steve Gracy stealing from reddit? Of course I am. What am I, gonna make my own memes?
@Kuba_ F1
Reddit isn't the source. That's like saying your source is "youtube". That doesn't give us the identity of the content creator
my in law criticizes me for getting my flu shot annually and taking my boyfriend to do the same yet, ironically she's been hospitalized twice with the flu and still doesn't learn xD
Taii potatoie
Actually in contrast to the usual vaccinations (which is highly advisable) flu vaccination is not. It starts with that fact that a flu vaccination won't protect you from a flu infection, but just against a single strain, of which there are a large number. The other thing is that flu (unlike childrens diseases against you should vaccinate) does on average not have any serious impacts (except that you feel really really bad) if your immune system is intact, meaning that a flu shot is primarily advisable for people with a weakened immune system, like very young or very old people or people with an impaired immune system. For an average healthy adult flu shots aren't reasonable, as along as not a highly problematic strain arises (eg H1N1), which would of course be a completely different situation. Taking your annual a shot will of course not do anything bad to you, but it will very likely also not do much good.
Frank Schneider ever heard of herd immunity?
Could be worse, my dad thinks the COVID vaccine was invented by Microsoft so they could microchip people and track them as well as earn money off the chips as part of some vague conspiracy to earn bitcoins off bio data. he thinks people should be taking the Chloroquine instead. He still got the vaccine but he still spouts the really bizarre conspiracy theory. He claims he got the vaccine because corrupt doctors wouldnt give him the chloroquine.
"Mmmmutation."
- Drunk Dr. Xavier, First Class
Olivia rocking the Ethan Klein look
I got the measles at just about the time the vaccine was invented. I remember it well. Good times. 🤒
Didn't die of Measles today or Small Pox! Thank you vaccines!
My kid was vaccinated at the beginning of this past fall against the flu. He still got it 5 months later but it was super mild. In the next room was a 15yo who has skipped out on some years of flu vaccines. Well, he had a 105. fever. The flu vaccine isn't a guarantee BUT it'll be much milder.
A vaccine will not make you immune to a disease. It will help you fight diseases better.
Nah, my sister and Mom always got theirs while I never got one and they'd still get sick yearly while I'd stay healthy sharing the same areas. It depends on each person individual immune system and their specific responses to the vaccine. It isn't just a helper for everyone.
@@pangolothian Perhaps their immune system is compromised? Age? Autoimmune disease? Weight? Stress? Fkd up sleeping? No fiber in their diet? The reason WHY people get sick is another issue as well.....
@@pangolothian yes. everyone is different. You're lucky you haven't gotten it. I get it yearly b/c I'm diabetic and the last time I got the flu was over 20 years ago.
I got vaxxed when I was young. I never got measles. Thanks to the German health care system.
German Health is one of the best in the world
You will pay in later life.
CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!! Growled 'Mad Eye'
May I request a video on group immunity please. I feel it import that every understands that if they don't vaccinate they may be fine but if lots do the same. Well you get the idea.
Maybe, but that's not foolproof, and if some people think they'll be safe, there's a chance that enough people will stop being immune that an outbreak can occur among that population. The main danger of not using vaccines is that if you get it, people who can't take the vaccine (people who are immunocompromised) are put in a lot of danger.
@@woodypigeon unless you can't get a vaccine for some reason you need to get one so you'll count among those numbers that act as an immune buffer for those who can't take them. Opting out of a vaccination is as much a disservice to your community as refusing to vote or work. Worse actually seeing as not getting vaccinated can end up killing you or others.
@@woodypigeon if there is a medical reason as to why you cant get one then that counts.
Of course if its just "I got a vaccine and then got the flu the next day" then I'm just at a loss for words but I'm gonna be optimistic and say that isnt the case
@@TowerArcanaCrow Meanwhile, I don't get vaccines because I have an autoimmune issue that flares up with illnesses or vaccines (like, my worst period in my life was when I got the flu two years back... second worst is the time I got the flu shot a year ago) So that better count.
@@CaTastrophy427 yes? I feel like that's an obvious one. People with immune deficiencies by and large usually cant get vaccines
I'd like to hear the story of the scientist who first thought : "Ok. Let's try llamas' antibodies on mice and see what it does."
3:14 did you mean "unlike" the measles virus? Always gotta review those scripts :)
Yeah, I think it might have been a minor script error. I do however think most people got the real point though.
THANK YOU, LLAMAS!
They do have some funky antibodies 🤩.
Flu strains seem to change so fast, vaccines are ineffective by the time the vaccines are ready for flu season. This also happens because vaccine producers have to start production on the vaccines a year in advance so they're using educated guess and modeling to guess the strain they'll need to vaccinate against. Also, sometimes the the markers change during production and it isn't caught. This happened last year or the year before. Vaccines are grown in chicken eggs, and the strain they were growing mutated and the marker changed during production, rendering the vaccine less effective.
They also vaccinate for two strains (a and b strains) as the there are early and late season flu strains.
Flu strains and vaccinations are very interesting, def worth reading about.
At least I know I can take antivirals because I know the vaccine is a waste of time and getting the vaccine didn't stop me from taking medication for several weeks and being sick as a dog.
Hello Olivia. 🙋♂️ I like your new hat!
The title really underrepresented what this exciting video actually was about.
SciShow Host: "Measles, it used to be an inevitable part of child hood until we introduced Vaccinations for it............"
Anti-Vaxer nutcase: Hold my bear............
Nutcase indeed if they have a bear tagging along haha
If they can find someone willing to hold a bear for them, they've found someone who will save their life... this time...
Azzarinne perhaps
Lol
TLDW the flu mutates super fast so that your immune system can’t recognize it from the same vaccine next flu season (and we don’t know how to make vaccines that recognize the part that doesn’t change but we’re working on it, and research is looking promising!)
Because they go to different classes on how to infect cells.
3:10 Why CZcams never should have gotten rid of annotations. ** shakes fist **
How else do they get the mind control and tracking system updates into you
NPC 69541 agreed
I know this is sarcasm but I just know someone will agrre with it seriously. Poes law sucks.
Haha she said Mushroomhead!! 😂
I was expecting more comments on that lol
I don't think we get a flu shot here in Denmark, it's basically a game called "who is gonna get sick first"
any idea why people dont get flu shots? I know some areas are less susceptible due to less travel, immigration, lower population density, better healthcare, etc. but it seems like Denmark would be susceptible to the flu thanks to a high urbanization rate.
Wow!!! I almost didn't recognized her!!!
Nice hat! Its half my wardrobe.
I'm sorry to make such a shallow comment on such a substantial scientific content, but I really like Olivia's new look... less distracting, more professional. And very informative!
In germany they offer now free flu shots for all family members at the pediatricians office. When our daughter got her vaccines last fall they offered to give me and my husband flu shots as well, then and there. They said the government wants it to be as easy and available as possible for parents to get their shots, too! A few years ago it did cost around 50$ each, now its free. Really greatful for that service!!
the great Thing is that the Government and the Industry benefits from that
they make more Money because you aren't sick as often then
Will the papers say “antibodies from llamas” or what?
I hope that like me, everyone who played Plague Inc. looked at the title and immediately thought of three words:
Mutation, mutation, and mutation.
YES I LOVE PLAGUE INC
So, in theory, if we made a drug that can damage/break/distort the heads of HA in such a way that would make the stems accessible, people would be able to make their own multistrain antibodies against the stems, and use them in the presence of the drug?
4:47 Carl Wheezer: Llaaaaaamaaaaaaassssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did the heaters break in the office?
So awesome you look all grown up now.
I have had red measles five times and German measles four time. I have been full vaccinated since toddlerhood. Mumps I have had twice as well. I have also been vaccinated twice as I would not have been allowed into Canada.
Before having seen the video, my guess would be that influenza viruses have a shorter lifespan than measle viruses. They therefore evolve much faster, so you're basically vaccinating against a completely new flu virus every single year.
Lighting looks really good in this one.
Targeting small sequences, risk of auto immune response?
Why are there always so many dislikes on Olivia's videos? I don't get it. The videos she hosts aren't any different than the other videos, guys...
Looking good Olivia... looking good
Olivia: [takes off glasses]
Audience: Why...Miss Gordon! You're...beautiful!!
(Old movie trope, in case you don't recognize it. Female lead takes off glasses, or lets her hair down, or changes into something more...comfortable, and the male lead goes all 'breathless schoolgirl' all over her)
I dont get that. Glasses are always a plus for me. I think they look cute :3 Olivia looks fine either way
@@TowerArcanaCrow On some people, glasses are an improvement, on others, a detriment, IMO. I agree with you about Olivia, though.
Why can't we make one shot that includes all possible HN permutations? Wouldn't we then have antibodies against all strains?
1:25 wouldn't that limitation significantly reduce measles's ability to infect/survive?
I've heard someone describe what we've done over the last century as we've beaten two of the Four Horsemen of the apocalypse bloody (famine and plague) exhausted a third(war) but created a fifth( nuclear Hellfire)
Thx
Real question from a guy who dislikes shots... A LOT!
Is there a benefit for getting the flu shot? I mean except reducing the probability of getting sick that year?
Because honestly, I'd rather be sick for 3-4 days every 3-4 years rather than getting a flu shot every year.
Like... is the virus hiding within me and I risk other people with weaker immune systems ()children, old people already sick ppl).
Because the flu doesn't kill a healthy person. So I don't see a reason to get those shots every year...
Or am I missing something.
The flu can still kill a healthy person. It could kill anyone. Healthy people are more likely to survive though. Still, just take your shots. It isn't all that bad when you're redirecting your attention elsewhere.. for about 2-3 seconds.
@@deliveryman7001 I'm sorry but no.
No it doesn't.
A 1/100.000 that get the Flu get killed by it is generous and probably even lower.
It kills those that are weakened. Either malnurished, HIV, other diseases, age related. But it doesn't kill you if you have a healthy immunesystem.
And EVEN THEN if you react early enough you can get to the hospital and survive.
Also it doesn't prevent the flu (like other vaccines), as there are way too many fluversions out there. It is based on a prediction of which ones are the most likely. Good prevention, but not nearly as effective as other vaccines.
As I said, if I'm missing something (or even are misinformed) please link me to studies or general conclusions.
Because I am a vivid defender of vaccines... just not for flu shots for otherwise healthy people.
The flu doesn't make you sick for a couple days. That's a cold. My niece hates getting shots too but man up! Literally 2 seconds and it's over... and it could save your life. Ironically my niece has several piercings and is more scared of getting a shot.
@@LetsPlayCrazy um... check out the Spanish flu... killed healthy people more often because they had no immunity. Literally as bad as world war one for deaths of healthy people. Gamble with your life if you want I guess.
@@cgaccount3669 Since I wasn't at the doctors I couldn't tell you what it was.
And to compare the common influenza with the spanish flu is like... really? :D I was asking for serious things that I might have overlooked... but doesn't seem like it. Thanks though :)
That was interesting. Let's make advancements. I don't like shots. lol
My mom said I needed a flu shot because there was like an epidemic thing. 2 days later I got the flu and was so weak I couldn’t pick up a cup.
Yearly?? What
That and the mutations in the flu tend to shuffle yearly
Since you are mentioning measles.....it's on the rise again because of gaps in the vaccination coverage. It should be alarming to the anti-vaxxers...probably not.
The science behind immunization is indisputable, but does that mean we can logically conclude that every new vaccine, along with its adjunct components, is safe??
Yes, because these vaccine components are heavily studied and tested before being released.
david ramziz 👌
"The measles virus is shaped kind of like a ball covered in spikes"
COVID-19: you dare challenge me?
I can hear from here ppl scratching there head and saying "this vax thingy is clearly a hox" and later on in the week I get measles from that scrachy head and I say: "I knew I should have stayed home"
If I understand correctly, HIV has similar issues and makes it difficult treat - HIV mutates every host.
thanks for talking about vaccines, too much miss information going around. so please, keep spreading actual science and knowledge!!
I like the new look.
i haven't watched this but i can still give you the tldw answer: because the influenza virus mutates much faster than other viruses.
Wow, science aside, Olivia is looking stylish. She's a delight!
Focus.
Mericans have weird taste in fashion
Don't remember when was the last time I got a flu shot. Probably when I was still a wee little lad. I still get the flu once, maybe twice sometimes every year but never needed any shots. Just extra rest for a week and it's gone.
Yeah some people don’t like that so we got flu shots
Yaay
Love your new look
I'm watching this while b3ing sick
Olivia, you look beautiful. I love the new look, ALOT. You look great. Are you glowing?... or are you using different makeup/contour? You also look like you made a couple different changes, & I'd have to say, I really like the changes. Nice switch from glasses to contacts. We can see your pretty eyes & your face, better. Your brows look more define, your hair looks fuller & bouncier.... You go girl! #GirlPower #SmallChangesMakeAhugeDifference
She had her baby and seems to be doing well
Yeah she looks great
Been 4 years, has there been an update on the research?
Something tells me that if not for all the bureaucracy we could have this new lama vaccine out in a week
Is the heat in the studio broken?
I'll admit we don't do yearly shots here but do get vaccines. Bit odd I guess. Never knew you needed yearly flu shots.
I don´t know about the rest of the world, but in the Netherlands, only "risk groups" are vaccinated yearly (AFAIK), these include the elderly, the really young and the ill, plus people that are connected to the risk groups, like caregivers.
@@MrWheelman82 : Same in the US. You can actually get the shots in Wal-Mart during flu season, but it's not that common to do it.
Which, admittedly, will probably bit us at some point, since a lot of folks apparently haven't had any credible exposure to one of the flu branches (swine flu maybe?).
Regardless, the flu just isn't considered dangerous enough for most folks to bother with the vaccine.
Well the more people who get the shot the less likely anyone would get sick from it. Herd Immunity works be it measles or flu.
Just got home from getting a flu shot.
you make it sound like it's a yearly change event rather than the fact that there are several flu strains that go around at any given time and that the flu vaccines only target the top three or so. It's not that the mutation is occurring that fast it's a fact that you're letting other strains grow while eliminating the top. If anything there should be a study conducted if a less harmful version of a flu strain competes with more harmful versions.
Possibility things may change in the future. Hopefully proscience in the future over conpiracy woo.
I think yearly flu shots are mostly an American thing, here we don't get them every year, I don't remember when my last one was
I don't remember ever getting one, certainly not with me knowing, last needle I got was for the dentist then getting blood taken
@Phi Phenomenon please dear god tell me youre joking
Havent had flu shot in over a decade and still havent had it!
Actually i have been vaccinated, the flu shot only helps fight it, you still have the possibilities of getting it from that shot LMFAO
I would like to know what is in the flu vaccine (specifically) But also in other vaccines... all the extra stuff like preservatives, etc. Just wondering.
The Anti-Anti-Vax crowd makes it sound like Measles is an assured death sentence for a kid exposed which is also disinformation. It used to be considered a mild childhood disease that kills about 1 in 2000 "reported" cases. "reported" cases is usually smaller than the actual cases. Conjecture, It maybe that a mother having had measles make her own children more likely to be in the 99.9% that will effectively fight off the infection. A study also suggests that the more you are exposed to life, going outside and being in contact with forests, field, etc the stronger your immune system, if you live indoors without much exposure to life and sanitize everything, you might weaken your immune system. If humans use artificals means to act as a substitute for their immune system over time the immune system will suck to a point that is close to the end in War of the Worlds, making every vaccine essential to survive and a self-fulfilling prophecy.
TLDR, Sequences of the Flu change from year to year.
The year is 2022 we are looking at a new influenza type virus becoming endemic.
Corona “sars-cov-2” has been killing millions and vaccinations have been more controversial than ever.
This video. Super relevant again!!
Must have been cold in the studio today
I havent had a flu shot since school, not against them, I fully believe in them, but just cant be bothered getting one
Just wait until you get a flu that lasts for three plus weeks! You have to decide whether to sit on the toilet or kneel in front of it! Sometimes you have to sit on it with a bucket so you can puke and poop at the same time. Then you'll wish you'd bothered. Lol
My pharmacy gives them. I just get one while I’m there shopping already.
I never used to get flu shots until one year I got actual influenza. I was flat in bed for 10 days, occasionally crawling to the bathroom. I will NEVER go another year without getting the vaccine.
Sometimes I just have zero access to doctors and dont get it some years. If I can tho i immediately get it asap
Unless you have weak immunity or health issues, you don't need a flu shot. If you are a healthy person then a common flu will go away within 2-3 days.
Why do people down vote videos like this? Is it an emotional response or something that is incorrect in the video they are responding to?
Am I the only one kinda concerned that a vaccine that targets shorter segments of HA could cause some autoimmune/molecular mimicry issues? While I trust that the people making and studying this have considered the idea, I hope they're doing human trials on a larger variety of people with this in mind. Especially since trials get done on afab people less often and they're often at greater risk for autoimmune disease.
Again though, I've only got 2 years worth of college towards my hopeful future career in a field like this...
My mother have a autoimmune disease. This is a real pain...
So many medicine to take... with so many bad effect...
At least, we are canadian so this is not too expensive (well, directly :p)
That also took an eternity to the doctor to actually finding that was actually one she had.
Anyways, let's hope they are going to do good. I am really curious to see progress about that.
Oh and good luck with your career :)
While I doubt that would happen its a possibility, and they do test the everliving hell out of any medication including vaccines. That is a good point though.
I don't think that would be a problem but that's a lot of explaining.
About 5 or 6 years ago the cdc admitted that that years flu shot was ineffective against that years virus but they still recommended people get the shot. I assume this is because developing a vaccine is expensive and if people didnt buy the vaccine that year the company that developed it could loose so much money that they would stop making flu vaccines all together.
Interesting, but seems a bit pointless conspiracy-wise. Market manipulating with medical misinformation seems a bit too against the idea of something like the CDC.
Has Hank forgot to pay the heating bill agian? :D I like SciShow but I will never understand the dresscodes ;)
Can you make a video talking about why some diseases cannot have a vaccine, like cancer and HIV. Thanks.
That a cool hat and outfit.
I thought it was just mutation in general. Not just the shape... Learning every day.
COOL NEW LOOK
"...and in Measles, the H and F proteins _can't_ change."
Huh. Why not?
Why does flu virus emerge in the winter times and not in the summer other than the proximity factor of human interaction? I.e. do they go into hibernation in the summer time?
the winter slowes down out Immune System
For some reason I thought this was from a different upload oh well comment still stands
Oilivia im not used to you without glassesssss
christchurch Canterbury is quaking
But will threy make a nonmercury pesrvetove version so i dont have an alirgic reaction tyo it
OMG IM WEARING THAT EXACT BEANIE RN WHILE WATCHING THIS
So I'm all for parents getting there kids vaccinated, but I haven't had a flu shot since before I can remember, so over 20 years (I'm 25) and I rarely get sick besides an occasional head cold. Honestly don't see the point of yearly flu shots. Commenting before watching.
A cold is nothing like the flu! I recently read a news report about a healthy guy in Alberta in similar circumstances to you. He was in a coma with the flu for about 20 days. Him and his friends are now committed to getting their shots every year. Just cuz you've never had a disease doesn't mean you shouldn't get vaccinated does it? I didn't get polio as a kid so does that mean I'm safe... no.
@@cgaccount3669 😂😂😂😂
No more silver snot
we need some kind of yearly shots since the batteries on the government tracking chips wear out.
They're trying to fool us with her having a new outfit 🤔