In fairness to the guy in the "This Guy" thumbnail he was actually doing wide arm pull ups which is a different exercise to chin ups and is working the back muscles in a different way to chin ups. And looking at the reps we see him start doing at 1.17 he's actually doing a full range, from a hanging position to as high as he can physically go with his arms in that position. If his arms weren't as wide, yes he'd get himself up higher, but that would be working the muscles in a different way to whatever his aim was. Everything else though, pretty much bang on the money.
@@yfz450rider39 Going wide grip on chins is for width. If you continuously go up too high you put undue stress on the shoulder joint, and you start getting the shoulder dislocated, or lesser tendonitis. Not advisable. Same with dumbells shoulder presses. Lower the weight beyond level / parallel with heavy weight, you place undue pressure on the shoulder joint, risking tendonitis and more dangerously, shoulder separation which will lead to shoulder replacement surgery. Range of motion is one thing. Using heavy weight to induce strength. means you must use smarts and not over stress your joints with that excess weight. Also lighting dumbell raises and locking your elbow transfers muscle being used from anterior shoulder to triceps. It is also not advisable to lock elbows out doing shoulders. Keep pressure on the shoulders and build endurance with strength.
this will really help me out! Hey, Jarryd please post a video on how to gradually increase distance while practice target shooting. Give some kind of schedule or basic guidelines. Thanks in advance. Love from India.
Literally never do Overhead press behind your head. Don't listen to anyone who says to. That's worse for your neck and back than it is good for your shoulder
I address this in the video. You need to be screened for shoulder mobility before doing behind the neck barbell press. You should go check out Dmitri Klokov 👍
Great video. I definitely get the tightness and pinching you described and I'm getting physio and sports massage to help break down scar tissue I've also had build up over the year. Are there any other exercises I could do if no gym equipment is available to me? I can do the overhead press with dumbbells but that's it unfortunately. Thanks!
Hi Becky, Thanks for the feedback, and yes you are not alone! The soft tissue treatment is really important for breaking up scar tissue, I suggest that you find a skilled practitioner in Active Release Technique (ART) and Dry Needling for best results. From my experience, unless you address the underlying orthopedic issues through strength training, then the tightness and potential for injury is likely to reoccur. The exercises demonstrated here are highlighted as 'essential' for a reason. These are the best variations, and whilst there are some alternatives, it is generally a compromise on results. If you dont have access to full gym facilities, then a good investment would be to buy or make a chin up bar, you can even set up rings to do them on as well. You could start with 'negatives', or buy some powerbands and learn assisted chin ups. Even starting from a free hang and doing scapular pulls will be beneficial. Chin up bar + rings + power band would be less than $50, so this would be a must in my opinion. Good luck, and let me know how you go! 💪🏹🎯🥇
Hey, I was wondering if I could ask for some help with an issue I'm having with the arm I hold the bow in. I am having some pain after shooting, maybe only 4 or 5 arrows, it sets in pretty quickly. I am getting quite a pain running from the inside of my shoulder down my arm that lasts for maybe an hour or 2 if I shoot like 20 arrows. Any idea what is happening here? I think my arm is correctly position, I don't push my shoulder out and I rotate the inside of my arm a little like I've seen people do. I'd go see a doctor but don't want to test covid, lol.
Obviously I can't diagnose your shoulder injury in CZcams comments, but it COULD be an inflammation / impingement of the supraspinatus. Depending on your drawing technique and shoulder set position, this can be a common issue. It is unlikely that a GP will correctly diagnose from my experience. I would encourage you to see a physical therapist (physio / chiro) that has experience in shoulders.
i have an instable left shoulder so my physio recommended to net do full range of motion pullups cuz then your arm gets pulled out of the shoulder socket. Any excercises that could replace this maybe?
If you have an unstable shoulder, then your objective should be to strengthen and stabilise the shoulder! This can be done with progressive overload. I recommend that you speak to you physio about specific exercises to implement, such as 1 arm rows, 1 arm presses, face-pulls, OHP and pull downs.
Bow hand? Do you mean specific hand strengthening exercises? Generally I find that the grip strength gained from these larger compound exercises is more than sufficient for that.
@@RogueArcheryTV my left hand (holding the bow) is shaking too much. But my right hand (draw) and my back is steady. Can you advice what specific exercise to focus only my left hand?
@@irzackihmj5259 thanks for clarifying. Unfortunately it's a bit hard to say. This may be more of a technique issue or a bow conditioning issue than a general S&C problem. If you're looking for some personalised feedback you should consider the virtual video coaching sessions that are available through our website.
Yes, you can send me an email if you want an example program 👍 I have also written a book on 'Training Program Design' which is available as part of the Technique Fundamentals Coaching Program here: archerymasterclass.com
😫😫 I don’t like gym’s any exercise I can do home, that simulates those weights I train daily about 1 or 2 hours a day, wonder if that is enough, I just started my first tournaments with bare bow. 26 pounder.
The most important thing over WHEN you train, is that you DO train. Morning or evening doesn't matter, although for S&C I would say that try and avoid it directly before shooting or other technical training. If you have a couple hrs rest between, you'll be good to go.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll check the link. I also want to do more S&C based content in the future, so let me know if you have any specific questions.
I don't understand what happen with YT but my answer has been deleted twice !? I had just said that I had posted my next questions on Masterclass FB group. Thank you.
In fairness to the guy in the "This Guy" thumbnail he was actually doing wide arm pull ups which is a different exercise to chin ups and is working the back muscles in a different way to chin ups. And looking at the reps we see him start doing at 1.17 he's actually doing a full range, from a hanging position to as high as he can physically go with his arms in that position. If his arms weren't as wide, yes he'd get himself up higher, but that would be working the muscles in a different way to whatever his aim was.
Everything else though, pretty much bang on the money.
You can still get chest to bar with wide grip pullups. If you have the strength and mobility. That guy was half repping 100%
@@yfz450rider39 Going wide grip on chins is for width. If you continuously go up too high you put undue stress on the shoulder joint, and you start getting the shoulder dislocated, or lesser tendonitis. Not advisable. Same with dumbells shoulder presses. Lower the weight beyond level / parallel with heavy weight, you place undue pressure on the shoulder joint, risking tendonitis and more dangerously, shoulder separation which will lead to shoulder replacement surgery. Range of motion is one thing. Using heavy weight to induce strength. means you must use smarts and not over stress your joints with that excess weight. Also lighting dumbell raises and locking your elbow transfers muscle being used from anterior shoulder to triceps. It is also not advisable to lock elbows out doing shoulders. Keep pressure on the shoulders and build endurance with strength.
Good data!! thank you.
I m getting tightness in scapula area. I ll try this. Thanks 👍
Great stuff! Let me know how you go 👍
this will really help me out! Hey, Jarryd please post a video on how to gradually increase distance while practice target shooting. Give some kind of schedule or basic guidelines. Thanks in advance. Love from India.
I've got you covered mate!
This should keep you going:
www.roguearchery.com.au/single-post/2017/07/27/The-Gold-Game
💪🏹🎯🥇
@@RogueArcheryTV thats exactly i was looking for. thanls explain that in video too!!!!
Great you’re really helpful for us to improve our skills
Literally never do Overhead press behind your head. Don't listen to anyone who says to. That's worse for your neck and back than it is good for your shoulder
I address this in the video. You need to be screened for shoulder mobility before doing behind the neck barbell press.
You should go check out Dmitri Klokov 👍
Great video. I definitely get the tightness and pinching you described and I'm getting physio and sports massage to help break down scar tissue I've also had build up over the year. Are there any other exercises I could do if no gym equipment is available to me? I can do the overhead press with dumbbells but that's it unfortunately. Thanks!
Hi Becky,
Thanks for the feedback, and yes you are not alone!
The soft tissue treatment is really important for breaking up scar tissue, I suggest that you find a skilled practitioner in Active Release Technique (ART) and Dry Needling for best results.
From my experience, unless you address the underlying orthopedic issues through strength training, then the tightness and potential for injury is likely to reoccur.
The exercises demonstrated here are highlighted as 'essential' for a reason. These are the best variations, and whilst there are some alternatives, it is generally a compromise on results.
If you dont have access to full gym facilities, then a good investment would be to buy or make a chin up bar, you can even set up rings to do them on as well.
You could start with 'negatives', or buy some powerbands and learn assisted chin ups.
Even starting from a free hang and doing scapular pulls will be beneficial.
Chin up bar + rings + power band would be less than $50, so this would be a must in my opinion.
Good luck, and let me know how you go!
💪🏹🎯🥇
@@RogueArcheryTV brilliant, thank you so much for your help! 😄🏹
@@beckyneith9638 you're very welcome! Keep up the great work 💪🏹🎯🥇
Hey, I was wondering if I could ask for some help with an issue I'm having with the arm I hold the bow in.
I am having some pain after shooting, maybe only 4 or 5 arrows, it sets in pretty quickly. I am getting quite a pain running from the inside of my shoulder down my arm that lasts for maybe an hour or 2 if I shoot like 20 arrows. Any idea what is happening here? I think my arm is correctly position, I don't push my shoulder out and I rotate the inside of my arm a little like I've seen people do. I'd go see a doctor but don't want to test covid, lol.
Obviously I can't diagnose your shoulder injury in CZcams comments, but it COULD be an inflammation / impingement of the supraspinatus.
Depending on your drawing technique and shoulder set position, this can be a common issue.
It is unlikely that a GP will correctly diagnose from my experience. I would encourage you to see a physical therapist (physio / chiro) that has experience in shoulders.
i have an instable left shoulder so my physio recommended to net do full range of motion pullups cuz then your arm gets pulled out of the shoulder socket. Any excercises that could replace this maybe?
If you have an unstable shoulder, then your objective should be to strengthen and stabilise the shoulder!
This can be done with progressive overload. I recommend that you speak to you physio about specific exercises to implement, such as 1 arm rows, 1 arm presses, face-pulls, OHP and pull downs.
@@RogueArcheryTV alr thank you, he gave me 6 excercises so ill be doing those and hope my shoulder improves for archery🙃
Rogue Archery TV what exercise to strengthen bowhand?
Bow hand?
Do you mean specific hand strengthening exercises?
Generally I find that the grip strength gained from these larger compound exercises is more than sufficient for that.
@@RogueArcheryTV my left hand (holding the bow) is shaking too much. But my right hand (draw) and my back is steady. Can you advice what specific exercise to focus only my left hand?
@@irzackihmj5259 thanks for clarifying.
Unfortunately it's a bit hard to say.
This may be more of a technique issue or a bow conditioning issue than a general S&C problem.
If you're looking for some personalised feedback you should consider the virtual video coaching sessions that are available through our website.
What if you can’t do a chin-up?
Do you have a sample training plan for a week on how to mix strength training, SPTs and actual shooting?
Yes, you can send me an email if you want an example program 👍
I have also written a book on 'Training Program Design' which is available as part of the Technique Fundamentals Coaching Program here:
archerymasterclass.com
😫😫 I don’t like gym’s any exercise I can do home, that simulates those weights I train daily about 1 or 2 hours a day, wonder if that is enough,
I just started my first tournaments with bare bow. 26 pounder.
Hi,plz can you suggest when should we work out
In morning before practice or in in evening after practice
The most important thing over WHEN you train, is that you DO train.
Morning or evening doesn't matter, although for S&C I would say that try and avoid it directly before shooting or other technical training. If you have a couple hrs rest between, you'll be good to go.
@@RogueArcheryTV thank you 👍🏻
What a noisy atmosphere.
The link for Example program is dead in may 2024. I'll find alternatives.
However thank you fo your advices.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll check the link.
I also want to do more S&C based content in the future, so let me know if you have any specific questions.
I don't understand what happen with YT but my answer has been deleted twice !?
I had just said that I had posted my next questions on Masterclass FB group.
Thank you.
That's weird...
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