Le combat en armure au XVe siècle
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Le Musée National du Moyen-Âge de Cluny présente une exposition sur l'épée, ses usages, mythes et symboles. Cette vidéo reconstitue des combats à l'aide des traités du XVe siècle. - Zábava
That guy is more mobile in his armour than I am normally...
thats weird
PetersaberHD ahaha
+Metatron omg you are here
Stat buffs.
Start a regimen
We need Battlefield 1485...
try Chivalry Medieval Warfare
That's basically Battlefield 1485
No, that's Battlefield 1415 at the latest.
RyanRyzzo Yeah...I mean you got what I meant to say
Idir
Yeah, no worries :)
It'd still somehow just have automatic weapons.
so you can actually roll while wearing plate armor..I guess dark souls is accurate
well at least youcan fat roll yes ^^
looks at smoughs hammer, yep pretty accurate.
TheBlackJames they only fat roll because they haven't lvld up their equip load. I bet if they equipped havol's ring they wouldn't be fat rolling
u can even roll in thick jacket, dude..
if u can roll and if u not fat
and rolling in battle is actually not necessary. u never need it. never use it.
this isnt plate armor, is full armor.
plate armor is a jacket with plates of metal, like riveted armor
Finally! Proof that people could actually move in that armor. So many people wouldn't believe me.
+Mike the Man
Lol using dark souls as proof of anything gives me bad reputation
+Nikolai try to do these things after several hours of fighting, climbing, running lol.
+Nikolai greek armour > that shit
+der Dennis try to do these things without armor after several hours of fighting, climbing running ect. sucks either way lol
Fable Tokani yeah i guess. its always the peasants who are fucked :D
You know whats more deafening than some running around in plate armor? The screams of someone who isnt.
lmao
Hoss Delgado omfg😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Huh? Can you please explain?
@@thecashmaker1994 bruh
@@thecashmaker1994 imagine getting hit by a sword without the armor. Now you get the picture :P
lol the scrubs arent even wearing rune armor
Dolan Dark WTF
Wtf is a meme lord doing here
Sees Le in the title.. becomes meme.
this is a hema meme only area
get out
fat
Stealth obviously wasn't a priority lol
well you would wear armor only for battles so
+Alexandros grivas lol
Musty Sheep ?
He was joking, it was a joke.
i guess u dont bring a tank to the stealth mission
advantages: blind the enemy.
disadvantages : all the battlefield goes deaf.
Not exactly the stealthiest choice of battle gear
The thing they wanted was a super impervious walking tank
And boy did they fuggin deliver
on a modern battle field it is louder because of fire arms so no
Imagine if we somehow never discovered black powder, and we just kept focusing our war research into purely melee technology for hundreds of years. In this alternate universe, what kind of sword would a soldier carry in 2014?
We'd probably have lightsabers by now.
Whatever Emily blunt was wielding in Edge of Tomorrow!
The kind of story i like to imagine !
Chainswords man
Samuel Ng Power swords!
1:34 you need to be below 70% equipment burden.
Git gud!
here comes the reddit army
David Stratton Unless you get the Well Fitted perk
1:34 ....Someone forgot to equip their rings before the fight.
+NIGHTSHADE31401 ohhhh i saw what you did there...
MHMMM....
He forgot to heal before the fight as well.
+NIGHTSHADE31401 Fucking fat rolls.
He didn't upgrade his weapons or infuse them
0:36 This is how poise works From Software
Why is this so low? xD
Dunno what ur talking about, iron katanas can cut through this flimsy armor like butter (No sarcasm, 100% serious)
+Guts Likes It In The Ass lmfao
Guts Likes It In The Ass
K how about full havel? Nope.
Guts Likes It In The Ass Obviously, katanas can cut a knight's armor head to toe easily.
What do you mean, half-sword?
You need to level up your vitality man.
Dark souls 👍🏼
Fat roll man haha
nah, just need Havel ring...
Praise the sun 🌞
1:35
This is the video to show to those who still believe that medieval armor and sword fight was a sluggish, brutish affair...
Richardsen actually there are other videos to do that, namely the ones that recreate how an actual fight would've looked back then.
Best_Scarlet Please, do share some!
+Best_Scarlet yeah, do share please !
+Richardsen It still looks sluggish and definately weak while being pushed on the floor. Also EU wasn't able to go that far with their armor and weapons against the turks or the arabs after all.
*****
That is because the correct tactics weren´t always applied. But with a disciplined force, European Knights were _very_ tough to beat.
Here are some examples:
-> During the Battle of Dorylaeum, the Turks attacked the Crusaders with their usual tactics: speed and arrows. The Turkish army attacked at dawn, taking Bohemond's army (not expecting such a swift attack) entirely by surprise, shooting arrows into the camp. Bohemond's knights had quickly mounted but their sporadic counterattacks were unable to deter the Turks. The Turks were riding into camp, cutting down noncombatants and unarmoured foot soldiers, who were unable to outrun the Turkish horses and were too disoriented and panic-stricken to form lines of battle. To protect the unarmoured foot and noncombatants, Bohemond ordered his knights to dismount and form a defensive line, and with some trouble gathered the foot soldiers and the noncombatants into the centre of the camp; the women acted as water-carriers throughout the battle. And in this defensive manner, they sustained a rain of arrows for _7 hours_ until reinforcements could arrive and charge the Turkish lines.
-> At the Battle of Montgisard, a Crusader force led by the King of Jerusalem, Baldwin IV, completely obliterated Saladin´s superior army.
-> In the Battle of Arsuf, Richard the Lionheart tried to ensure that discipline was mantained at all times, certain that his forces would be harassed the whole time in order to provoke a charge. He distributed the forces accordingly, shielding the cavalry with the infantry and having crossbowmen in the ranks to return fire. A Muslim eyewitness described European infantrymen with up to ten arrows sticking from their armoured backs, marching along with no apparent hurt. On the other side, the lightly armoured Turkish cavalry suffered heavily when struck with the bolts of the crossbowmen. All of Saladin's best efforts could not dislocate the Crusader column, or halt its advance in the direction of Arsuf. Richard was determined to hold his army together, forcing the enemy to exhaust themselves in repeated charges, with the intention of holding his knights for a concentrated counter-attack at just the right moment. Finally, after several hours of constant attack, the rearguard couldn´t take it anymore and charged; Richard then signalled the general charge to support this isolated effort. The full might of the Crusader cavalry charge shattered the Turkish forces, but Richard, not wanting to overextend his forces, halted the charge after a short pursuit and rearranged his forces, and then launched a second charge which, once again, broke the Turkish forces and forced them to flee for a second time. A third charge finally scattered the remaining of Saladin´s forces.
-> During the Battle of Jaffa, the Crusaders arranged his forces under a wall of shields and spears, with crossbowmen inmmediately behind them. Saladin´s forces charged and retreated several times, firing arrows, trying to force the Crusaders to break ranks and pursue. This did not happen, and in return, the Turkish cavalry got their fair share of bolts, causing great casualties. Once the enemy was worn down after several charges, with the horses exhausted, Richard ordered the charge and made the enemy cavalry flee.
With the poper tactics and under good leadership, the European Knight could best hit and run tactics without much trouble.
I would fucking love to see a realistic medieval war film where the film makers actually do proper research on actual historical fighting techniques, how actual armor behaves/protects and battle strategies and not have people cleaving straight through proper plate armor with a sword like its butter. Hell even proper riveted mail and gambeson (which Hollywood also loves to shit all over for some reason) are excellent protection and are not easily dealt with and these knights had that on in the gaps and underneath their plate armor. A sword would be my backup weapon for dealing with someone in armor behind either a mace, warhammer or polearm.
TheUndefeatedMagician one could only dream...
increased costs, risks and unfamiliar/counter-intuitive (weird) new visuals would not justify the historical accuracy unfortunately. thus why it's never been produced before despite the attempts to at least make it somewhat more accurate in some points.
todd's workshop, a blacksmith/youtuber who has worked for studios explains why some decisions are made.
Well, there goes the myth of the immobility of knights in full plate mail armor, especially their inability to get up after being knocked down.
Myths are only myths. Don't believe them till you see them.
@@agentsquid9079 he didnt said that he believed it. facepalm
if they were knocked down from the horse, it's really difficult to get up, but only cause they fell from horse.
@@M2TWhierarch or it also depends on the ground you are fighting on, like muddy ground etc
Myth provide of azincourt. Chevalier are fall cause of mood and climb. Issue isnt the armor but the metal shoes. And a lack of diversity of soldiers.
Armor soldier could be compare to a calvary in fight. Very power and efficient fastly.
I was happy to see this. We make so much of the apparent finesse of Asian martial arts and completely overlook the skill and mobility of European knights.
Proof that a fully armoured knight from 14th or 15th century weren't as sloppy and sluggish as one might think the armour was made of well tempered steel so you couldn't pierce it so easily it wasn't to soft and that's why swords became more thrust oriented at that time for half swording etc
It is as if they were made for fighting...
even with a 16th century thrust orientet blade you couldnt pierce trough plate... there are other weapons for that... swords are emergency weapons
The knights wearing them were in too physical form. They were in incredible shape and we're well trained in combat.
@@ttk2704 sure, but you don't use the sword to pierce the plate (because it does not work). you use the tip of the sword to hit the enemy in the weak spots where there is no plate (like the eye slit, under the arm, etc.)
Мужик в латак, ты легенда
Абсолютли =))))
The fact that a genuine demonstration of combat movement in full plate armor devolves to, "Katana vs Longsword" arguments in the comments is infinitely bewildering.
@Menelaus, The Red Haired King Yep, the preferred weapon through the ages. The sword is a side-arm ala the modern handgun. Polearms are the rifle
because katana fan boiz were threatened by the facts which were presented here so they need to do damage control
They are so beautiful.
Well I guess it's safe to say these were not made for espionage.
"Let me quietly sneak into this room".
*CLICKITY clack CLACK SMASH*
+M Smith Not all espionage is done by stealth, I assume that much espionage really was done in armour like this.
*Clickity clack clack*
-So when are we going to launch the attack?
-In four days, at sunrise... Wait, where are you going?
-Oh, I just have to wright a letter to my old mother.
*Clickity clack*
its still technically stealth if you leave behind no witnesses...
😂😂😂
I've been looking for this video forever! I love how medieval combat is absolutely nothing like we imagine. This is amazingly practical, brutal and efficient, and I hope that a filmmaker one day puts this level or realism to film
the duel in Netflixs The King would have ended after about 2 minutes max and because of this the movie too (because the main character was untrained against a trained knight if you havent watched it), so its interesting to see how filmmakers would react to this...
Summation of the comments for this video:
The Dark Souls roll at 1:34
Fedoras
Claims that katanas could cut through that armor (some overlap with the fedoras)
The armor is loud
Holy cow i didn't know you could move that freely in armor
General stupidity
And that's about it.
Thanks fam from the past saved me a lot of time.
The dark souls roll comments are funny
You forgot the comments saying that knights could be penetrated in the asshole
someone pin this comment
And then at the top you have Dolan muthafuckin dark
Восхождение легенды!
От Бересты ?
1:58 into swordfight and chill and he gives this look
Hard like a rock, flexible like fabric, shiny like mirror
and noisy as fuck
Awesome as fuck.
reminds me of that quote from lord of the rings about mithril
Funny how I can sneak past bandits wearing full armor and carrying multiple swords and bows. It's so noisy lol.
cos you dont have muffle as a perk
drcadillac buy a silencer
No buy a loader
Not in KCD
Ça change complètement la vision qu'on peut tous avoir du combat médiéval ! Super intéressant !
I was linked to this with the understanding that it would sound like an emergency in a tin can factory. Did not dissapoint.
Meta as fuck
So, without question, the effect of armor on mobility is overstated.
Also, without question, the effect of armor on stealth is understated.
But yeah, I'm quite surprised at how exposed the groin is.
+GregTom2 It depends on the style of armour and the time period. In the tower of London there are genuine suits of armour on display with steel codpieces that even had hinges on them so you could lift them up when you needed to take a pee
Well, they had badding, and a chainmail skirt to protect the grpin, plus nobody is really gonna be stabbing there most the time.
Peyton Spain padding
Peyton Spain groin
Melting Clocks Thank you.
Awesome video thanks for this : )
QuickyBaby what the hell are you doing here?!?
Из последних комментариев 100 больше половины от Бересты. Прикиньте, как зарубежные ребята офигевают)
Славься мужик в латах!
I had an old friend who worked as a security guard during the day and made armour for Renaissance fairs as a hobby. He once demonstrated to me that it was possible to do martial arts moves in full gothic plate mail, in much the same way these guys did. I never believed it until I first saw it, and I'm still impressed even now that they can be so agile.
HEMA just means Historical European Martial Arts. Knights practiced martial arts, in and out of armor.
@@BigPanda096 Thanks for explaining that, but I knew what it meant. I'm talking about a friend who could do perfect sideways splits in gothic plate mail.
@@CADJewellerySkills Back then there was even the Maréchal Boucicaut who used to do cartwheels in full plate armor.
@@Knoloaify Now that would be fun to see!
Medieval Martial arts is awesome. Praise the Sun!
+Michael De Luca
Oh my sun, my dear, dear sun...
\o/
I-Its setting...
\[T]/
Praise me some more
I am writing a medieval story that involves a knight in armor, and this video was literally so helpful in helping me visualize what is possible. I cannot thank you enough.
La roulade à 1:35 est magnifique hehe ! ^^
Très intéressant, ça brise certains mythes ! :)
Ça donnerait presque envie de faire une vidéo dessus ;)...
ça donnerais presque envie d'avoir une armure une épée et de combattre les sarrasins
oh wait
D-Mystif DARK SOULS CONFIRMED
Lol pas exactement “magnifique”
ça brise rien du tous.c'est armures ainsi que c'est armes sont pour les tournoi pas pour les batailles on ne se battait pas comme ça pour tuer,ni avec ce genre d'équipement
Best defense against zombies.
darkninjamandelta all their teeth will fall out chewing through
eventually, you would have to take it off.
darkninjamandelta Too loud, all the zombies of the country will fall on you and you will became a fresh meat can
An army of knights would be unstoppable
darkninjamandelta Then if one of the knights get infected youre fighting zombie knights too
Well, no more "It's for flexibility!" excuse for those horrible bikini-armors.
Horrible? Says you.
+grimgor07 Who the hell needs an excuse for bikini armour?
Are you gay?
prospectus
Nope. Good tastes, yes.
grimgor07 Are you from the XIX century?
I somewhat enjoy the sound of the armor clanking. Is that weird? xD
Anamchara Same here pal :D
Anamchara Nah, I think it's pretty awesome
Anamchara It does sound cool. Could you imagine a battlefield full of that sound?
CommanderSh!mi X Now, now, control yourself. You'll rust your codpiece.
CommanderSh!mi X He may be right, but I understand the feel.
there is something so satisfying about the sound of scrambling armour
You can't beat maces and warhammers when it comes to combating plate armor. Too bad in entertainment media, they're not "cool" enough...
Personally I think long warhammers are the "coolest" weapons ever. Swords are weak against armour like this.
Caius Nair Most swords in the middle ages were blunt and therefore meant to crush rather than cut
espasmemuscular Okay so I'll give you this. Blunt is rather subjective, and using words like sharp and blunt don't really help in getting a point across. Swords in the middle ages and most of history in general were only as sharp as survival knives today. They never had the sharpness of something like a surgical tool, since it would make the edge too fragile for practical use. So in a sense, a sword can be "blunt" depending on who you ask.
However, swords were absolutely never used as bludgeoning weapons, unless you strike with the pommel or use the mordhau technique. This is because most of the mass of the sword is at its hilt, and could never match the trauma delivered by a mace or warhammer, which has most of its mass at its head.
Using a sword to bludgeon rather than cut, is like trying to use a hammer, by holding it by its head, and striking with its handle. Even swords like the falchion, which had slightly greater mass on its blade, were still sharp and used to cut.
Sure, swords are worthy of their place as the ultimate sidearms (until the development of handguns), since their weight distribution allows them to be used with great finesse, and thus are great for defensive techniques. However, I personally believe they are both over-represented and misrepresented in the media.
Caius Nair I guess i was too vague. My point was about straightswords only, of any size. These were in most cases used as bludgeoning weapons, since they were good at bending armor inwards causing severe dmg to either head or limbs.
espasmemuscular Except that's completely untrue. I mentioned in my previous post about the mass distribution of swords in general. Their blades are too light to be used to bludgeon an opponent. Swords on average only weighed approx 2 pounds during this era, most of which was at its hilt.
This was even more pronounced in the late middle ages, as the development of plate armor made swords nearly useless in battle, and designs focused on making swords into thrusting weapons that could be used to thrust between the gaps in armor using a technique called half-swording.
Even maces and warhammers were often unreliable at combating plate armor during the late middle ages. Horseman's picks being the obvious exception.
Straight swords are actually very effective cutting weapons during the early and high middle ages. What they lacked in the curve of curved swords, they made up with strong distal taper and gradual profile taper. This in effect, made straight swords only slightly worse at cutting than curved swords.
That being said, most swords were optimized to be effective for both cutting and thrusting, regardless of their shape. No sword was optimized for bludgeoning.
1:35 Dark Souls
+CroTomas Too much weight.
0:36 When someone tries roasting you, but you've been dead inside for years.
Absolutely terrifying. Imagine being chased by one back then, it would be like being chased by a terminator.
Nobody expected us but we are here.
Комитет мужика в латах от бересты.
Se battre par temps clair devait être assez aveuglant ^^
Fighting in a clear summer day must have been blinding :)
I love how the guys face didn't even change at 35 seconds in! That was epic!
This is amazing also shows that almost every medieval movie is wrong cause they piercing plate armor with swords and arrows.
My mother told me that you can cut though plate armor. I showed her this video.
No Knight in all of Chrisendom can withstand a blow from a vexed Karen
При съёмке видео, не один мужик в латах не пострадал)
Причина: латы
No one thought of using a Havel's Ring?
They just seemed to dump all of their points in endurance and only fast roll in arming jacket with sword+buckler
It was nerfed
Мужчина в латах, здравствуйте! Россия наблюдает за вами. Надеемся с вашим животом полный порядок!)))
Все ок сним 🙂💪👌
As plate armor became more common, the swords became replaced with war hammers, lucern hammers and the like, to deliver a piercing or a shocking blow through the plate. In fact at 0:31 we see suchly designed weapon.
One of the most important videos on this platform for fantasy/history nerds
1:35 -- He is well prepared to die.
Shoulda equipped Havels
2:50 I just want you to appriciate the fact he picked him up by his balls and threw him on ground, lol
thigh
+Melting Clocks look closely, look where the hand goes and where it ends ;)
DwarfThunderfart the very end of the thigh
+Melting Clocks Also known as the testicles
LMAO I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED THAT! It should be called, the Ball grab slam
Interesting video. I'd read somewhere that studies of medieval combat manuals showed that knights in armor and swordfighters used very different techniques from what you see in movies, this was a good illustration.
Quand tu réalises que c'est le Grand JD qui a réalisé cette vidéo !!
Les armures et les épées sont magnifique et les technique de combats très très bien reproduites
This is why wrestling was an important fighting style back than. I don't know about anybody else but I'd prefer (as a plated knight against another) to get double leg or single than kick or punch.
In order to defeat such an armour forget swords. You need a can opener.
Risky at best, to be completely sure bring a tuning stick
Halberd
@@TotallyNotLoki poleaxe
Im glad there are videos like this out there, thanks for making it.
МУЖИК В ЛАТАХ, МЫ НАШЛИ ТЕБЯ!
подпишись на мой канал плиз, ну если хочешь))
1:35 someone needs the royal soldier's ring
Beautiful armours.
Seriously one of the best instructional armored combat videos out there.
1:34 Darksouls
Did that dude actually get stabbed in the eye?
France is hardcore
They probably have modern mask under helmet
Relax, he still has a second one.
CaptainRay
Coming from who ?
Kim Boom Joong what makes you think he is American? I see no clear indication
I see these armored guys doing jumping jacks and getting off the floor and being weird to show the range of mobility and all I can think of is how many new Dark Souls gestures that would be.
01:34 his equipment weights more than 70%
Superbe travail martial, on aimerait avoir plus de vidéos comme celle ci !
I am SO ringing my D&D dungeon master from 20 years ago and saying SEE? I totally WAS RIGHT!
You show him!
Brilliant! That's for the fedora wearing Samurai weaboos, you CAN move in Plate.
I saw this video a few years back in Museum Cluny in Paris and I'm glad I rediscovered it on CZcams now :)
Epic. Thanks for putting this out there!
Great vid..great harnesses - just the demonstration that a full blow against a breastplate does nothing would suprise most people.
You'd be surprised at how many people still believe that european swords where made to bash armor.
Knoloaify I don't think that a majority of most people who look into this subject ever thought a standard sword could bash plate. Maces, war hammers, and halberds were made to counter plate, and compared to swords and spears, they were much more effective obviously.
Knoloaify This comes from people imagining "medieval era" as single point in time - mixing weapons, armor and tactics from whole europe and hundreds of years into single thing.
Today is the day you realize that no movie or tv show about knights fighting has ever gotten it right. Come on game of thrones season 5 give us a realistic and crazy knight fight thats real!
Мужик в латах
Medival knight > Samurai
Rickard Johansson pizza > ice cream
makes as much sense
Not really I katana isn't a good cutting through armour would shatter in typical knight combat. It's great for cutting down peasants though.
Rickard Johansson you are choosing between very distinct kinds of warriors that excel in very different conditions, that's my point.
Rickard Johansson You can't separate logistics from war. Trying to equip and train an army of samurai in Japan in the style of medieval knights in Europe would fail miserably and result in you losing any war you tried to fight.
The fact though is both were about as agile, except Knights had access to far superior armor. Not considering the fact that Katanas shattered frequently. This seems like an obvious point that the knight was superior.
мужик в латах, легенда ютуба)
Как то мало народу от Бересты(
Зато все в тель... в латах!
1:23 when you're on the battlefield and the knight starts emoting.
I modded 2 wheelbarrows together to make body armour. Chicks love it, specially cos I'm easily transported back home after a hard day on the battlefield.
I wanna see someone sprint a 100M dash normal and then do it in full plate. See if it's MUCH worse or just a little bit. Apparently from a few texts I've read about plate, it wasn't as bad as everyone likes to make it out to be.
it's 15-25 kg of armour - it you have ever run with a very large backpack (modern soldiers pack more than 30kg sometimes!) than running in armour is actually easier (the weight is spread throughout the body). On the other hand it get shotter in plate armour...
VishnuZutaten yeah, i once read that modern day soldiers carry heavier equipment.
Well, that would depend on their specific job. Some guys in the military like a 60 gunners support guy are literally running around with a 60LB backpack, an assault rifle on their back, armor, helmet, sidearm, knife, granades while they carry two 40LB ammo cans in each hand. Other people's job they have hardly anything on them. It would just depend. But there are definitely soldiers today that are carrying more weight on them than someone who is full plate with a longsword.
The weight isn't too bad. The heat/sweat is worse.
Recent experiments show that it takes about twice the energy of running with no weight, a heavy backpack is about 1.5 times. So it is work, but can be done.
1:34 Dat fat roll with High Adaptability :3
But damn this full body armor warriors are alpha as fuck
If the armor is the same strength and thickness with all parts then that demonstration really refutes so many myths about knights and the armor. I honestly always guessed they could not get up once down. Amazing how misinformation was lodged in my head. I guess you have to take fatigue into account after a long battle but thats still an amazing video. Thanks guys.
It is really cool stuff! Late medieval armor was extremely advanced, and we're still trying to figure out quite how they made it using period techniques and tools. It was even able to stop firearm projectiles. And you can imagine that, when fitted expertly to the knight's body and trained in extensively, it allowed even greater agility than shown in this video.
j'adore le passage illustrant la mobilité en armure !
The plate armor was tailor made to fit the knight so he could move as freely as possible. I guess the medias to blame for all the misconceptions about medieval warfare most people haven't even touched a real sword
Мужик в латах есть) (Я с канала Береста)
Magnifica !! me encantó y me ha desmostrado como fue ese tipo de guerrero y de combate.
I'd love to know why 121 people have downvoted this video....
Mububban23 didn't end him rightly
I recommend you equip a prisoner's chain
i've played enough dark souls to know you can still have some mobility with armour . Unless you wear havels set set of course. its like attaching cows to each of your limbs.
Tell that to 70 Vit with 3rd Dragon and Soldier's +1...yeah, it just barely works then.
Fuck Havel armor.
C'est depuis le film Henry V qui a été tourné dans les années heuu.... in a past far far away... où l'on voit des chevaliers en armures se faire hisser sur leur chevaux avec des sortes de palans (sorte de grue) depuis tout le monde pense qu'une armure pèse 15 tonnes et qu'on ne sait pas bouger. Une armure de ce type devait vous offrir une meilleure protection tout en étant capable des mêmes mouvements qu'une personne sans la dites armure ! Merci à vous pour cette vidéo illustrant bien se principe !
good video on the practical use of longswords and armor
After watching the video I scrolled down in the comments, hoping for a DS reference. I was not disappointed.
Also great demonstration video!
It's pretty obvious that you'd have a hard time when using a sword against plate armour. I wonder wether most armoured noblemen back then realized that it would be somewhat wiser to use maces and hammers (maybe certain polearms, too), keeping the "halbschwert"-fighters at distance and dealing some hefty blows to them! And yes, I'm aware of the sword techniques against plate armour, but did many plate armoured soldiers use them? Just think of the Lucerne hammer, developed from the halberd I suppose, seems to be much much more useful against armour with a nice stabing point and a.... hammer.
A pole weapon, as the Lucerne hammer, is indeed better against an armored opponent, but it is also one of the worst sidearms as it's too big.
When/if you lose your Lucerne hammer, it's not likely that you have a spare one in your belt. =)
You can't bring every weapon with you, and a sword is a good compromise.
Well of course, but you could as well carry a mace or a dagger as a sidearm with you. Anyways, I belive the sword was highly ineffictive against armoured and mounted kinights/soldiers of the 15/16 century.
Look at the Landsknecht for expample: Their main weapons were Polearms, and their mighty Zweihänder usually served representative purposes, for it was too heavy and unhandy to be used in real combat.
Kalashnikirby Yes a sword is not the best option against armored opponents, but it is better than a mace against light armored/unarmored opponents. And not everyone on a battlefield had full plate armor. The landsknkechts also usually used swords (katzbalgers) instead of maces as sidearms.
So yes, you could carry a mace as a sidearm, and many did. But others used swords as sidearms instead. And you can ofc also carry a knife/dagger as well.
gurkfisk89
True... but then again, the katzbalger was usually cheaply produced and not good for much more than uncontrolled slashing (the name has a rather negative connotation, too)
It's kind of a pitty that this pinnacle of technology was not only displaced by cheap and massive formations ("Gewalthaufen", ie. Swiss Pikemen), which could not be defeated by some armoured and mounted fancy knights but also towards the end of the 16th century, firearms.
There are tons of historical evidence showing that heavy lancers/Ulans were pointless against their lighter armoured, pistol-carrying counterparts. Poor knighthood with its traditional tactics and values and extreme cost ineffiecency - high, though conventional tech and somewhat behind the times. Come to think of it... Reminds me of today's luxury cars :)
gurkfisk89 The sword was actually the sidearm most of the time. When you consider pikemen, archers, crossbowmen, cavalry / lancers, halberdiers, etc etc, most had the sword as their backup. Even the heavily armored knights eventually tended to favor warhammers and maces against each other.
Watch Scholargladitoria channel. It is very informative. He has a video regarding how often swords were used in medieval battle.
Dark Souls is realistic:
+xxMrsViolet Ish. Some of the weapons techniques are pretty bad from a pragmatic, historical perspective.
For example, with the swords, the character overswings, and you don't want that.
The BEST animation is the spear with the shield raised, which is entirely functional.
The halberd two handed weak attack is pretty good too.
This is one of my favorite videos on youtube
I love how you can see the struggle for his life in last one.