The 4 things it takes to be an expert

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  • čas přidán 1. 08. 2022
  • Which experts have real expertise? This video is sponsored by Brilliant. The first 200 people to sign up via brilliant.org/veritasium get 20% off a yearly subscription.
    Thanks to www.chess24.com/ and Chessable for the clip of Magnus.
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  • @chess
    @chess Před rokem +15683

    Wow, this was incredibly insightful!

    • @prabhat_sharma
      @prabhat_sharma Před rokem +478

      XD You're here too?!

    • @alfiethomson3349
      @alfiethomson3349 Před rokem +673

      wow chess itself amazing

    • @romerrosales-hasek1961
      @romerrosales-hasek1961 Před rokem +260

      do u know how magnus guessed the zapata vs anand game? it was literally 2 moves in and a petrov, which is a pretty common opening. i think im missing something lol

    • @thyblackpanther
      @thyblackpanther Před rokem +35

      They got a channel

    • @vladpetre5674
      @vladpetre5674 Před rokem +147

      @@romerrosales-hasek1961 ​ There's no other memorable game in a Petroff. Similarly had the position started with a couple of moves in the Philidor, Magnus would have said Morphy's opera game. I know these even if I'm just 1500. But make no mistake, Maggie can recognize some very obscure GM games

  • @khabuda
    @khabuda Před rokem +28588

    The pattern recognition became very clear to me when I learned Morse code. The human brain takes 50 milliseconds to process and understand a sound. People regularly send and receive Morse code at 30 words per minute, which puts the dit character and the gap between all characters at 40 milliseconds. So you literally have to process sounds faster than the brain can recognize them. Over time you start to hear whole words in the code rather than individual letters, but you still have to decode call signs character by character. You basically cache the sounds in your brain without processing them, and once the whole set of characters passes, your brain is able to turn it into an idea and add it to the stack of previous ideas while your ears are already caching the next set of characters.

    • @NarutoMagicCyclops
      @NarutoMagicCyclops Před rokem +2054

      It's even more interesting when you start learning the patterns to how people drive. You can pretty much predict what someone is going to do just based on how they position the vehicle. And being a bus driver it's a good skill to have. It's surprising how many people share the exact same methods of cutting into traffic or in front of a 20t vehicle that could squish their pathetic trucks. It's great for avoiding accidents on and off work. Truck drivers though... They can be 50/50.

    • @chrismcaulay7805
      @chrismcaulay7805 Před rokem +887

      This is the same as reading a word, rather than a letter... Its just using a different system (auditory, rather than visual). Our brains LOVE to group (or "chunk") things given the understanding and oppertunity.

    • @skinovtheperineum1208
      @skinovtheperineum1208 Před rokem +543

      I had a schizo co-worker one time who could pick snippets of dialog out of white radio noise.

    • @khabuda
      @khabuda Před rokem +198

      @@skinovtheperineum1208 "Go into the light!"

    • @hysteria8455
      @hysteria8455 Před rokem +72

      @@khabuda where did u learn morse code i wanna give it a try..?

  • @mandos6145
    @mandos6145 Před rokem +1702

    "excellence is not an art, it's pure habit. We are what we repeatedly do"
    20 points to whoever recognises the quote

    • @NotOrg7
      @NotOrg7 Před 10 měsíci +5

      Who's quote is it?

    • @Fabian-fd7go
      @Fabian-fd7go Před 10 měsíci +93

      Aristotle

    • @shaggyfeng9110
      @shaggyfeng9110 Před 9 měsíci +8

      Art is some elite group of people's habit. Don't you get it now?

    • @lizanna6390
      @lizanna6390 Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@Fabian-fd7go thanks. I know the quote but trying to remember who said it was gonna drive me mad

    • @viraloutbreaks99
      @viraloutbreaks99 Před 9 měsíci +21

      I don't know but I use this one all the time..... "You are what you do. Not what you say you'll do." -Carl Yung

  • @SkyLordPanglot
    @SkyLordPanglot Před rokem +1185

    As a chess player I want to make a little correction. The feedback is not just winning or losing, but rather its cause and effect. Developing or leaving pieces in certain places leads to different outcomes as a butterfly effect. At first you cannot recognize what action or inaction caused the whole avalanche that leads to you dominating or losing, but with time you start to recognize for example that leaving your bishop over there always allows the opponent to attack. So your feedback is actually recognizing how patterns or moves lead to other patterns.

    • @TreespeakerOfTheLand
      @TreespeakerOfTheLand Před rokem +58

      That is actually quite a good point. I am a beginner at chess and I am seeing more and more patterns, as well as the butterfly effect. It's really cool haha

    • @Shvetsario
      @Shvetsario Před 10 měsíci +18

      I use the same concept to improve my skills in drawing realistically or learning music. I don’t watch tutorials, I pay attention to exactly where I went wrong and how I can improve it, targeting that specific weakness

    • @SkyLordPanglot
      @SkyLordPanglot Před 8 měsíci

      @@userh6699 What is from what book?

    • @SkyLordPanglot
      @SkyLordPanglot Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@danielburleson563Check the likes again 🙂

    • @danielburleson563
      @danielburleson563 Před 8 měsíci

      @@SkyLordPanglot you have 500 likes when top comments usually have tens of thousands? Wow buddy, you're really bragging huh

  • @samehismail8217
    @samehismail8217 Před rokem +5895

    5:00 repeated attempts with feedback
    6:47 valid environment
    11:23 timely feedback
    13:50 don't get too comfortable

    • @CrazyGaming-ig6qq
      @CrazyGaming-ig6qq Před rokem +246

      0:00 beginning
      8:59 middle
      17:58 end

    • @andresquijanouc6195
      @andresquijanouc6195 Před rokem +261

      0:28 random number generated
      4:30 random number generated
      7:24 random number generated
      12:56 random number generated

    • @nadeembajwa8530
      @nadeembajwa8530 Před rokem +10

      😂😂😂

    • @RaisedBySheeps
      @RaisedBySheeps Před rokem +72

      you're a baller, king. added 18 minutes to my life from this summary. maybe you are actually a god and not a man. i already have a father but you can be my daddy

    • @Kaiwizz
      @Kaiwizz Před rokem +23

      Thanks, I have seen this video a couple of times, but sometimes I just forget his exact wording. You just spared me the hassle of scrubbing through the video for a refresher.

  • @ONAROccasionallyNeedsARestart

    I recently had a MASSIVE argument with my university because they repeatedly did not provide any feedback to essays or exams. Just a mark and that's it. I backed my perspective with a ton of academic works on education, that I doubt any of them ever read.
    I'm going to show them this video. Because university courses that don't provide feedback are virtually useless.

    • @wouldyoureturntomonke2452
      @wouldyoureturntomonke2452 Před rokem +198

      Hopefully you got them feedbacks

    • @stressedbyamountainofbooks
      @stressedbyamountainofbooks Před rokem +273

      Not to mention the occasional mistakes which in turn is an undetectable false feedback

    • @maiyenish8552
      @maiyenish8552 Před rokem +136

      They will point to #2 or #4.
      You point to #3
      They will point you to your instructor's office hours.

    • @PeteQuad
      @PeteQuad Před rokem +126

      I'll play devil's advocate and say that a normal university course is not trying to make you an expert at a skill. Reading about a topic and then writing your thoughts down will give you a level of knowledge about it that allows you to begin to think critically about it. It is only a starting point to becoming an expert, if you want to take that path. No one expects someone coming out of college to be an expert in anything.

    • @hunszaszist
      @hunszaszist Před rokem +228

      ​@@PeteQuad quite a steep price for what's equivalent to watching a CZcams playlist or taking a Udemy course

  • @thesunnynationg
    @thesunnynationg Před rokem +617

    I worked as a cashier for a few years.
    I had to remember 100's of product numbers with up to 5 digits.
    first tryed to remember them all but its almost impossible. after some time, i call it muscle memory, i just remembered where i had to touch my screen and not the digits themselves. when colleagues asked me for a certain product i mostly couldn't answer but when i went to their screen i just typed in the number.

    • @psychedelicpain420
      @psychedelicpain420 Před rokem +58

      I have the same thing, but with a Rubik's Cube. Couldn't tell you how, I could just show you

    • @cayden6057
      @cayden6057 Před rokem +62

      I have a similar quirk with typing. If you swapped every key on the keyboard, I probably couldn't rearrange most of them into the correct spot from memory, but I still technically "know" where all of them would be when writing something.

    • @CalvinHikes
      @CalvinHikes Před rokem +9

      I had a similar experience working for a shipping company where I had to memorize thousands of zip codes and categorize them. I did memorize most of them but you can't keep up unless it becomes pattern recognition.

    • @hindustanimapper
      @hindustanimapper Před rokem +9

      My neighbour work in a photography studio and he is also somewhat similar. He can close his eyes and do the editing, copy-pasting, and all the other stuff without using the mouse a single time, that too at lightning speed.

    • @leduck8096
      @leduck8096 Před 11 měsíci +6

      to explain ​@@psychedelicpain420's statement, instead of thinking ‘oh T perm, means R U R’ U’.. (and so on),’ we rather think of it as ‘okay, wrist turns, index finger flicks..’

  • @binham122
    @binham122 Před rokem +116

    I think there's another way to think about this
    A. Expertise is about recognizing the pattern
    B. Recognizing pattern comes from storing highly structured information in the long-term memory via FEEDBACK
    Four things it takes to store highly structured information in the long-term memory via FEEDBACK
    1. Repeated Attemps (WITH FEEDBACK) - you must have some type of feedback first
    2. Valid Environment (PROPER FEEDBACK) - the feedback should give you valuable lesson to improve the next time
    3. TIMELY FEEDBACK
    4. Deliberate practice (PROGRESSIVELY UPGRADE FEEDBACK) because overlapping & repeating feedback won't help you become better, it must be upgraded over time for new lessons, and hence improved expertise accordingly
    -> As you can see, it all surrounds feedback, which indeed, is the core of learning, recognizing pattern as we see in machine learning.
    After all, ti's about using feedback in the right way, right?

    • @duyminh9526
      @duyminh9526 Před 11 měsíci +2

      suy nghĩ bạn sâu thật đấy, cảm ơn b vì bài học giá trị

    • @RaphyJmusic
      @RaphyJmusic Před 8 měsíci +2

      I like this way you broke it down 👌

    • @softwareamedida
      @softwareamedida Před 6 měsíci +2

      Great one!!!!

    • @Radiers
      @Radiers Před měsícem +1

      underrated comment

    • @falsonaga
      @falsonaga Před měsícem +3

      Commenting so I can always come back to this comment

  • @AlienScientist
    @AlienScientist Před rokem +1967

    04:56 1. Repeated Attempts with feedback
    06:52 2. Valid Environment
    11:23 3. Timely Feedback
    13:46 4. Don't get too comfortable

    • @TrainsandRockets
      @TrainsandRockets Před rokem +38

      I was looking for it...thanks

    • @libertyprime7911
      @libertyprime7911 Před rokem +30

      It's funny how many times this comment is repeated. I'm becoming an expert.

    • @darklight898
      @darklight898 Před rokem +7

      @13:00 how does that formula work

    • @menuhin
      @menuhin Před rokem +7

      16:32
      To build up memories (as an expert), it requires 4 things:
      - Valid Environment
      - Many Repetitions
      - Timely Feedback
      - Deliberate Practice

    • @kgill99
      @kgill99 Před rokem +14

      Would it be easier to say
      -practice a lot
      -with timely feedback
      -where the feedback is valid
      -and also when you practice drill down into what you are doing

  • @SwapravaNath
    @SwapravaNath Před rokem +2135

    "we should be wary of experts who don't have repeated experience with feedback" perfectly nailed it.

    • @darklight898
      @darklight898 Před rokem +1

      @13:00 how does that formula work

    • @trspanda2157
      @trspanda2157 Před rokem +16

      Jesus loves us all that's why he died for our sins

    • @XKnightLightX
      @XKnightLightX Před rokem +3

      there are ways to make up for experience but this is a conversation that you're not prepared for. Also people can speak from experience and also receive second hand experience. There are requirements to being able to make up for lack of real experience.

    • @sunbleachedangel
      @sunbleachedangel Před rokem +5

      @@XKnightLightX that's what a non expert would say

    • @XKnightLightX
      @XKnightLightX Před rokem +1

      @@sunbleachedangel thats just my elevator pitch. Your comment isnt valid until you examine my entire idea so

  • @dawsontate2989
    @dawsontate2989 Před rokem +91

    As a teacher, I think this info is so important. As students we are taught to perceive ourselves as one form of learning, instead we actually learn best from multiple approaches.

    • @lizanna6390
      @lizanna6390 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I remember they tested us all as whether we were kinesthetic, audio or visual learners. Luckily a lot of teachers pretty much ignored the results.

  • @lindholmlille
    @lindholmlille Před 9 měsíci +1514

    After a horrendous 2022, shell-stunned financial backers have misfortunes to recover and a lot to consider, as an expansion report and a pile of different information did close to nothing to change assumptions that the Central bank would probably keep climbing interest rates regardless of whether the economy dials back, And that implies more red ink for portfolios for the principal quarter of year 2023. How might I benefit from the ongoing unstable market, I'm currently at a junction choosing if to exchange my $250k security/stock portfolio

    • @leonarodwell
      @leonarodwell Před 9 měsíci +1

      Centre around two key targets. In the first place, remain safeguarded by realising when to offer stocks to cut misfortunes and catch benefits. Second, get ready to benefit when the market turns around. I suggest you look for the direction a representative or monetary consultant.

    • @jirinamuzikova
      @jirinamuzikova Před 9 měsíci

      @@leonarodwell In-fact, ever since coronavirus I've been in regular conversation with financial examiners. Nowadays, buying moving stocks is quite easy; the trick is knowing when to buy and when to sell. The section and leave orders for my portfolio are made by my counsel. accumulated more than $550,000 from a $150,000 savings that was initially stale.

    • @jetkastrokdova
      @jetkastrokdova Před 9 měsíci

      @@jirinamuzikova Thats true, I've been getting assisted by a FA for almost a year now, I started out with less than $200K and I'm just $19,000 short of half a million in profit.

    • @Gracej34
      @Gracej34 Před 9 měsíci

      @@jetkastrokdova _Mind sharing info on the adviser who assisted you? been saving for pension since age 18 - company scheme. along the way I hit higher tax, so I added to my company pension with a SIPP (tax benefits) I'm 46 now and would love to grow my finance more aggressively, there are a few cars I still wish to drive, a few mega holidays, etc.

    • @jetkastrokdova
      @jetkastrokdova Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@Gracej34 >The advisor that guides me is CHARLOTTE ANNE MCCONELL most likely the internet is where to find her basic info, just search her name. She's established

  • @alisancakl7948
    @alisancakl7948 Před rokem +1348

    4:03 - Definition of the expertise
    5:00 - Repeated attemps with feedback
    6:46 - Valid environment
    11:21 - Timely feedback
    13:50 - Don't get too comfortable

    • @HandGrenadeDivision
      @HandGrenadeDivision Před rokem +9

      at which point is the definition of expert given?

    • @0000song0000
      @0000song0000 Před rokem +34

      Nice. That explains why people get easily into the habit of videogaming, which has all of these. Ergo, we need more educational games! 🤗

    • @halzion
      @halzion Před rokem +20

      @@0000song0000 honestly never even realised that! no wonder games are so addictive. it's like doing a hobby but since it's been specifially designed to do each of these things (cus of how they work) it gives way more dopamine than a less consistent "regular" hobby!

    • @YY-ln1ol
      @YY-ln1ol Před rokem +6

      dont get too comfortable is the most important of the four

    • @idek50
      @idek50 Před rokem

      nice

  • @lucascarman2578
    @lucascarman2578 Před rokem +1963

    Getting comfortable is the part that always kills me. I learn very quickly but once I get something down fairly well, I stop challenging myself and just rest on that success.

    • @charlesparr1611
      @charlesparr1611 Před rokem +73

      I think thats actually a positive, i would think that in almost any situation, having a good command of many skills and subjects, and being able to move on to the next thing fairly often would have much greater utility. First, because in most things experts are not that much more useful than the merely competent. If you spend ten times the resources and time to become twice as good, then that only matters much in fairly specific tasks. secondly, what happens if your area of expertise either beomes irrelevant or you are unable to use that expertise for some other reason? Imagine being the star running back through high school and college, certain to be drafted. Since the age of 8 that guy has devoted unbeleivable time and effort, got a scholarship that was of necessity a basketweaving degree (not all but most football players do not get useful degrees or even finish them) and so lost that opportunity for education, and suffers a career ending injury in the second last game of a college season. All that expert knowledge all that training just became useless, at best they might have some crossover skills, and depending on the expertise there might be few of those.
      Perhaps your own 'weakness'n is a strength?

    • @ynemey1243
      @ynemey1243 Před rokem +19

      Comfort level doesn't matter at all. Deliberate practice does.

    • @daniss8828
      @daniss8828 Před rokem

      @@ynemey1243 l

    • @abrartanim6740
      @abrartanim6740 Před rokem +1

      this is literally me

    • @schechter01
      @schechter01 Před rokem +3

      A lot of us have that problem.

  • @anildhage
    @anildhage Před 11 měsíci +95

    Man. You just clarified a concept which I was struggling to understand for years. Literally years. You definitely deserve validation for your work. A big thanks to you.

    • @RaphyJmusic
      @RaphyJmusic Před 8 měsíci

      @@userh6699 ah interesting, does it have all the 4 concepts?

  • @CSSLN
    @CSSLN Před 6 měsíci +14

    The last part hit so hard for me, my grandpa is a very good musician, and he didn’t study music but his brother offered him a job as a pianist when he only knew the basics but he needed to provide for a family of 5 children so he took the job he played piano and organ every day for many for many hours, he told me that he didn’t like playing the piano but the few times I have heard him he plays extremely good and knows about a ton of stuff that not even my mother knew about, like when he was in my home studio he started patching my synth and started jamming and my mom was like you know how to used that? And he was like: yeah, and I hate it! I’m not sure what made him hate music that much he eventually bought a building and started renting apartments and sold all his instruments, but still getting out of his comfort zone made him a great musician

    • @biggSHNDO
      @biggSHNDO Před 3 dny +1

      I reckon if he had to do it to support his family, he felt he was being forced to do it for money and that sucked the joy out. Thanks for telling the story though I enjoyed it

    • @CSSLN
      @CSSLN Před 2 dny

      @@biggSHNDO yeah, I think that art might be fun only when you do it because you liked it in the first place, but well I don't judge him he'll have his reasons, however it would be cool that he liked to play piano, it could be a good hobby for him now that he doesn't have anything to do hehe, still glad you enjoy his story

  • @IndrajitRajtilak
    @IndrajitRajtilak Před rokem +4172

    The four things are
    1. Valid environment (chess is valid, roulette is random)
    2. Many repetitions (predicting election results is hard as they are rare events with low repetitions vs. tennis shots)
    3. Timely feedback (anesthesiologist gets instant feedback vs. radiologist gets delayed feedback)
    4. Deliberate practice (practice at the edge of your comfort zone, identify weakness and work on it)

    • @KenDM
      @KenDM Před rokem +91

      Thanks mate. Watched this vid a while ago, didn't take notes. Thanks to your comment I recalled everything again without the need to spend 20 mins again.

    • @legendaperfeitadotrap
      @legendaperfeitadotrap Před rokem +4

      THE THUTH

    • @savageantelope3306
      @savageantelope3306 Před rokem +4

      Seem obvious when you break them fown

    • @user-rj1zw6hh6l
      @user-rj1zw6hh6l Před 9 měsíci

      Thanks mate

    • @kirbt0352
      @kirbt0352 Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@userh6699 it's in the description

  • @AWildRaito
    @AWildRaito Před rokem +790

    I like how people are saying how well the video was made or how great the video is when this was dropped LITERAL SECONDS AGO.

    • @axbs4863
      @axbs4863 Před rokem +5

      LMAO IKR

    • @MrUssy101
      @MrUssy101 Před rokem +7

      Why does this guy thinks we need to be expert in everything you ain’t no better than me, I am happy being averrage !!!!

    • @ooooof9517
      @ooooof9517 Před rokem

      @@MrUssy101 maybe he just want to share things that he’s learned and thinks is valuable or important or maybe just interesting..

    • @paulking5199
      @paulking5199 Před rokem +3

      Clearly people can watch stuff faster than me lol

    • @ivantube3129
      @ivantube3129 Před rokem +7

      its bots

  • @mzdanziger
    @mzdanziger Před 7 dny

    One of the BEST videos I've ever watched on your channel. Extremely eye opening. Stuff that you feel and you know but you don't know how to prove or explain them

  • @razvanuscatu8137
    @razvanuscatu8137 Před měsícem +3

    " To become an expert, you need to practice for thousands of hours in the uncomfortable zone, attempting the things you can't do quite yet ". This is powerful. It encapsulates the main ideas so beautifully. I am grateful for finding this video and thank you for sharing it with us.

  • @justanotherhotguy
    @justanotherhotguy Před rokem +2050

    The Four Things are:
    4:55 1. Repeated attempts with feedback
    6:48 2. Valid Environment
    11:22 3. Timely Feedback
    13:52 4. Don’t get too comfortable

    • @HDTomo
      @HDTomo Před rokem +54

      This be it. 2x speed viewer come in clutch 10 mins after uplaod

    • @susbaca
      @susbaca Před rokem +1

      why

    • @maruftim
      @maruftim Před rokem +35

      @@HDTomo i suppose they are an expert at this

    • @HDTomo
      @HDTomo Před rokem +30

      @@maruftim go at 2x the speed to learn 2x faster 😎😎😎

    • @imveryangryitsnotbutter
      @imveryangryitsnotbutter Před rokem +3

      @@HDTomo Seems legit

  • @NotWhatYouThink
    @NotWhatYouThink Před rokem +14

    It’s true! *Confetti* *fireworks* is the ultimate CZcamsr dopamine hit!

    • @shaukahodan2373
      @shaukahodan2373 Před rokem

      I recently had a MASSIVE argument with my university because they repeatedly did not provide any feedback to essays or exams. Just a mark and that's it. I backed my

  • @user-ie9fy3fz7o
    @user-ie9fy3fz7o Před měsícem +1

    I rarely comment on CZcams videos, but this might just be one of the best I've ever seen. I would say that it affirms your status as an expert communicator. So well done, thank you for sharing your insight

  • @rannyorton
    @rannyorton Před 6 měsíci +398

    Success depends on the actions or steps you take to achieve it. Building wealth involves developing good habits like regularly putting money away in intervals for solid investments. Financial management is a crucial topic that most tend to shy away from, and ends up haunting them in the near future.., I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life!!

    • @smithlenn
      @smithlenn Před 6 měsíci +2

      Starting early is simply the best way of getting ahead to build wealth , investing remains a priority . I learnt from my last year's experience , I am able to build a suitable life beause I invested early ahead this time .

    • @dawsondanny990
      @dawsondanny990 Před 6 měsíci +2

      The rich Invest in alternative income streams that are independent of the government should be the top priority for everyone right now. especially given the global economic crisis we are currently experiencing. Stocks, gold, silver, and virtual currencies are still attractive investments at the moment...

    • @ivankagel9949
      @ivankagel9949 Před 6 měsíci +2

      I thought about investing in the real estate market, I heard that people make millions , but I lack good knowledge and a strategy to outperform the market and generate good yields. I have $460,000 but it's hard to bite the bullet and do it. Money is hard to come by

    • @belljoe
      @belljoe Před 6 měsíci +4

      Having an investment advisor is the best way to go. Based on a direct encounter with a CFP named Kate Elizabeth Amdall, I can say with certainty that their skills are excellent. She helped raise over $580,000 in 18 months from an initially stagnant portfolio of $150,000

    • @ivankagel9949
      @ivankagel9949 Před 6 měsíci +1

      INTERESTING!! can u share more details?

  • @AlanKey86
    @AlanKey86 Před rokem +3259

    This is a very timely video for the start of a new college term in September - I'll definitely be showing this to my new students!

    • @vaisakhkm783
      @vaisakhkm783 Před rokem +60

      and as a student... i learned a big lesson, as why i am not improving in the areas i already know somewhat ok, but improving in topics i don't know

    • @RT-ol4hh
      @RT-ol4hh Před rokem

      College. Hah. You mean indoctrination centers. They used to be institutions of enlightenment. No longer. They’ve been usurped by left wing intolerant extremists.

    • @giveussomevodka
      @giveussomevodka Před rokem +40

      Equally timely for a midlife crisis programmer, stuck doing the same stuff for nearly a decade.

    • @Toothless_dance
      @Toothless_dance Před rokem +5

      Go for it

    • @OfficiallySnek
      @OfficiallySnek Před rokem +14

      Please don't remind me that summer break is almost over

  • @lawrencechan2693
    @lawrencechan2693 Před rokem +357

    4:54 - many repeated attempts with feedback
    6:46 - a valid (predictable) environment
    11:20 - timely feedback
    13:50 - don't get too comfortable

    • @bossgd100
      @bossgd100 Před rokem +3

      thank you

    • @LucasDimoveo
      @LucasDimoveo Před rokem +1

      thank you

    • @MrSalamandave
      @MrSalamandave Před rokem +3

      Thanks, I was taking notes, but somehow overlooked point 3. @ironmanmason do you have other ideas, or a video recommendation with better advice?

    • @joelgeorge8192
      @joelgeorge8192 Před rokem +2

      Isn't point 4 deliberate practice?

    • @AVATARW0
      @AVATARW0 Před rokem

      bless your soul

  • @krf7784
    @krf7784 Před 7 měsíci +123

    Become an expert:
    1. Repeated Attempts with Feedback
    2. Valid Environment
    3. Timely Feedback
    4. Don't Get Too Comfortable
    Build Long term memory:
    1. Valid Environment
    2. Many Repetitions
    3. Timely Feedback
    4. Deliberate Practice

    • @IDMYM8
      @IDMYM8 Před 4 měsíci

      What do you mean to say?

    • @SyahmiLaggger
      @SyahmiLaggger Před 16 dny

      Its interesting that 1,2 and 4 are just the same thing. Deliberate challenging practice with timely feedback. And then less probabilistic environment.

    • @benravenhill484
      @benravenhill484 Před 4 dny

      cool bro

  • @WeConnectHumans
    @WeConnectHumans Před rokem +2

    This video is crazy. Brilliant, brilliant man. I am a big believer that most of the time, ego kills our advance in life. What I mean by this is there are a lot of people that believe just because they are full of books, they are experts. Learning from experience and getting straight feedback prove to be the best strategies for learning for me. The example you give there about radiologists and anesthesiologists. Doing something and having the opportunity to get feedback straight away is the best learning process. The same go for learning a language. For example, I am learning English, and two years ago, I moved to the UK. Now by living here, any time I hear some expression, I take notes and ask some native friends. By doing this, I 'am learning a lot every day. In this way, I am going to start a Language business for sure ahahah. This video really makes me feel good about being an expert and understand how to learn properly. Again is really sad that we make people with a degree so important when in reality, most of those people don't have any passion and drive for what they do, and most of the time, they don't really like what they do. Passion and knowledge are powerful. Amazing video again, man. You did an amazing job. I am writing this, and I didn't finish the video yet, crazy! I believe one of the biggest killers of Mastery and being an expert is fear, and this is one of the reasons I always say without overcoming our fear, we can study a lot, but we are never gonna reach our full potential. With this, I am not saying we don't need to study. What I mean by this is going to school is right, but at the end of the day, at one point, it's really important to be honest with ourselves and start channelling our energy to what really can make us reach our full potential. It can be learning a language or studying marketing. Another example where we can get instant feedback and learn can be talking with people or girls in our daily life. By doing this and analysing the reaction we receive from people, analysing what we say... We can learn a lot and improve our confidence and communication.

  • @qwerty_and_azerty
    @qwerty_and_azerty Před rokem +646

    As a graduate student, this hits home pretty hard. We spend countless hours on a project, only to get feedback once when a final paper is submitted for peer review. The feedback is neither timely nor frequent. And yet, you get to claim to be an expert in your field by the time your graduate.

    • @user-yy3ki9rl6i
      @user-yy3ki9rl6i Před rokem +37

      this is why most companies steers away from degree based hiring. they know that a degree won't prove that you smart. project and experience based hiring is getting more and more common because you can assess the skill level and the ability to learn based on the project complexity, error/mistake rates and time spent working.
      Don't be discouraged my friend, its simply how the system works - its not perfect, so you shouldn't base your entire value on it. Good luck on your journey!

    • @randomuser5237
      @randomuser5237 Před rokem +48

      @@user-yy3ki9rl6i I think the video made it pretty clear that most hiring "experts" in companies are anything but "experts", so that makes your point moot. And many companies still very much rely on degrees at least to screen out the number of possible candidates.

    • @fraktaalimuoto
      @fraktaalimuoto Před rokem +19

      But you can get active feedback from your collaborators and supervisor? As a PhD student and beyond I have always tried to ask feedback from my collaborators and peers who I can trust. No need to wait for a referee to respond.

    • @cecesoclean4591
      @cecesoclean4591 Před rokem +7

      lmao what are you talking about “companies steering away from degree based hiring”?? nah man they really aren’t

    • @EarthWingedDragon
      @EarthWingedDragon Před rokem

      @@randomuser5237 Well, considering The United States of America is full of fake university offering fake degree, I don't think it applies there.

  • @mage3690
    @mage3690 Před rokem +2347

    "Don't get comfortable" is a lesson I'd like to drive home by this statistic: some 70-90% of accidental finger amputations happen at 2 ages, 16 and 60. All the time in between those ages is marked by remarkably safe individuals who go their entire career without a single incident. Before and after those ages is when nearly every finger is removed via _any_ means. Below 16, the reasons are typically doors, mowers, and knives. After 60, the reasons are power tools, typically the sort of hand tool an individual would've used for his entire career, probably without incident.
    Personally, my finger was removed at 16, following an exceptionally poor night of sleep, followed by a very late arrival at work, where I needed to do about 2 days' worth of catch up work, with a poorly maintained chopsaw (miter saw), in an environment with a poor (but improving) attitude towards safety. That chopsaw removed my finger about 2 hours after starting work, and I became part of that aforementioned statistic.

    • @DROGOC0P
      @DROGOC0P Před rokem +170

      very interesting statistic. thanks for sharing your story

    • @cynthiabauer5763
      @cynthiabauer5763 Před rokem +95

      thanks for sharing your story. Sorry you lost your finger, I hope one day Jesus resurrects you with a brand new finger again!

    • @Michael-mn4ef
      @Michael-mn4ef Před rokem +58

      I'll sure as hell bet the attitude towards safety was improving after that lmao

    • @mage3690
      @mage3690 Před rokem +35

      @@Michael-mn4ef yeah, even if it did take a while. I was actually fired from a later job for my laissez-faire attitude towards safety, but I'm much better about it now, thank goodness.

    • @ShalomSimplified
      @ShalomSimplified Před rokem +20

      Fascinating statistic. My uncle was an outlier. He is a carpenter by trade, but was careless with one of his saws. (A table saw, I think?) It was so fast, he didn't even feel his finger come off at first. I'm not sure how old he was, but he was well under 60, probably in his 20s or 30s.

  • @cesarcaslini
    @cesarcaslini Před rokem +11

    Not to trust the "experts" is definitely something I learned on the past few years and this video illustrates why very well. Great job!

  • @amanthikaanbalagan8844
    @amanthikaanbalagan8844 Před rokem +315

    1.Repeated attempts with feedback - "4:47"
    2.Valid Environment - "6:57"
    3.Timely feedback - "11:21"
    4.Don't get too comfortable - "13:53"
    Along with the 10,000 hours 😄

    • @mannnygz
      @mannnygz Před rokem +11

      the 10000 isn't necessary, i think thats just the amount of time it seems to take most people to gain a solid understanding of those 4 principles within their field, whether they realize it or not.

    • @electrofx657
      @electrofx657 Před rokem +3

      @@mannnygz exactly if these people who succeeds in these 4 things with less time than 10,000 they are called a prodigy or genius

    • @kshitizsrivastava9429
      @kshitizsrivastava9429 Před rokem +3

      Thanks man
      4th point is very important because whenever I do maths Problem I only do same or simple problems which makes it harder to solve difficult questions.
      Let's see how much can I improve by doing these steps 😁😁😁

    • @hassanh7926
      @hassanh7926 Před rokem +2

      @@electrofx657 It might be better to acknowledge that genius is not simply "one who succeeds in attaining these 4 rules early or in less time". There is much more to being a prodigy or genius (whatever we people mean by these terms). For example, apart from these, a person considered among the best in his field has great attitude, passion, creativity, wonder and, arguably the most important of all, persistence.

    • @electrofx657
      @electrofx657 Před rokem

      @@hassanh7926 hmm

  • @dominicveconi4301
    @dominicveconi4301 Před rokem +807

    Mathematician here. I did a lot of teaching when I was in grad school, and this video really hits all the nails on all the heads. Only in my last year did I figure out a concrete mantra to tell my students, encouraging them to not get discouraged by challenging problems because you only improve a skill by pushing yourself beyond what's comfortable. (The words I used were "engaging with uncertainty" rather than "deliberate practice", but they amounted to the same thing.)

    • @johnno4127
      @johnno4127 Před rokem +13

      I taught a little math myself and had started to realize "there is no learning without failure" but I didn't get to implement that as a positive strategy before I left the profession.

    • @trumanhw
      @trumanhw Před rokem +3

      @@johnno4127 Nor adequate short term memory adequate for the task ... and,
      the desire for them to actually understand (if it was to be useful / deep knowledge).

    • @kongolandwalker
      @kongolandwalker Před rokem +1

      Also "We learn from mistakes" is a helpful phrase. If we never make mistakes - we learned the theme, and to become better we have to solve problems which are "on the edge" of our knowledge, where we can still make mistakes.

    • @jeannewillemse6433
      @jeannewillemse6433 Před rokem +3

      I have so much respect for teachers who legitimately care about the success of their students as that's rare nowadays I find. I had a lady math teacher who was always running around with sweat on her brow preparing practice papers for us before exams and stuff. My grades went from 60% range to 80% range under her and even got 93 for one of the big exams which was higher than the "nerd" of the class who was going for a scholarship.

    • @jackhartmann1084
      @jackhartmann1084 Před rokem +4

      Studied physics in college. Those professors that emphasize difficulty (or simply make it hard) Iearn the most from. In classical mechanics I got 35% on my second quiz and 100% on my third. Getting spanked (metaphorically) sure helped me learn.

  • @erich930
    @erich930 Před rokem +3

    Super insightful, thanks! As a low-time pilot working toward the airlines, I can see all of these concepts in my training so far.
    We repeat the same exercises often with immediate feedback, in a valid environment, and we keep pushing ourselves out of our comfort zone (without actually risking an accident).

  • @sgy77777
    @sgy77777 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love videos like this one, it makes us think about trivial things with more insight than we usually do.

  • @fundemort
    @fundemort Před rokem +641

    1. Valid Environment
    2. Many Repetitions
    3. Timely Feedback
    4. Deliberate Practice

  • @SkullCollectorD5
    @SkullCollectorD5 Před rokem +1017

    This was incredibly timely and it expounded on a principle I learned only recently. When you practise something and get frustrated, as we all do, that is **not** the time to pause. That chord you can't quite play, the card trick you can't quite nail - keep at it for five more minutes and tell yourself this deliberately. I think this is also what the fourth point in the video is about, because in those 'five more minutes', you are at the bleeding edge of your skill and that is precisely when you grow.

    • @tinchozz4750
      @tinchozz4750 Před rokem +52

      this would make sense if you wanted to stop because you were tired or your hands hurt, but doing something frustrated leads us to be stubborn and use patterns we already know, so you don't really learn. it has happened a lot to me, you try to do something and get frustrated bc you can't do it, just to do it super easily the next day while having fresh mind

    • @SkullCollectorD5
      @SkullCollectorD5 Před rokem +69

      @@tinchozz4750 I believe the key word is 'deliberate'. When you get frustrated, recognise it. To recognise a feeling is to disrupt its dysfunctional effects on cognition enough to deal with it deliberately. This is an aspect from the ABC model of cognitive behavioural therapy.
      There is no feeling without a preceding thought. If I'm transferring what I've learned from this video, the above and the principle I mentioned correctly, it may be that the feeling of frustration is the result of resistance before new neural connections form. I've personally had great success with the method, as long as I don't overdo those five minutes into more and more attempts.
      ETA: "I'm getting frustrated. I realise this is because I'm at the edge of my skill. I will take a breath and continue for five minutes to hone that edge." - could be a chain of thoughts I may have in the process. The exact words are different for everybody, the key is to think and not just feel.

    • @pugdad2555
      @pugdad2555 Před rokem +13

      ​@@SkullCollectorD5 It is all relative tho. Just like you stated "You stop and take a breath" but how long is that breath and how much do you breath? You can say that you stopping to take a breath for 1 min and then going back is relative to someone taking a breath for the rest of the day and then getting back at it the next day.
      It is all relative and once we box ourselves in by saying "this is the only way" then we have a problem.

    • @3nertia
      @3nertia Před rokem +7

      @@SkullCollectorD5 It's also a good time to reassess technique as you're not *abandoning* the practice but you get a chance to slow down and think more clearly - I've had good experiences using the technique you mentioned in conjunction with my own!

    • @battles151
      @battles151 Před rokem +1

      As with everything in life, mind, body, and soul.
      Flashcards, weights, and prayer

  • @benjaminp.vallieres4281
    @benjaminp.vallieres4281 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I am not lying when I say this might be my favorite video on CZcams. Please keep this channel alive.

  • @georgemocea6865
    @georgemocea6865 Před 5 měsíci +2

    The ammount of depth he goes into hits the sweet spot to get everyone an insightful idea about "how to become an expert"

  • @Jeyekomon
    @Jeyekomon Před rokem +270

    "Don't get too comfortable."
    That was actually incredibly eye-opening for me. Thank you!

    • @sebastianjost
      @sebastianjost Před rokem

      There are few things in life that are certain. Many things can change over time. So it is important to keep challenging what you think you know and check that it is still valid.

    • @fuckdefucker
      @fuckdefucker Před rokem +3

      You should check the "Yes Theory" channel where everything is about seeking discomfort :)

  • @Eleven2410
    @Eleven2410 Před rokem +483

    It would be interesting to have a deep dive video on deliberate practice - what constitutes it, how to engage in it proactively, etc.

  • @christophermartin4567
    @christophermartin4567 Před rokem +2

    There is a fifth thing: (an) expert teacher(s). Without expert teachers, it is nearly impossible to recognize the lesson to be learned from an instance of feedback, and to find one's way to the appropriate comfort/discomfort threshold consistently over the course of years and thousands upon thousands of hours of practice. There is a point at which someone bound for true mastery transcends the lessons of the teachers and finds her own path, but this only occurs after considerable input from teachers, with whom the pupil often studies in a sequence of ascending levels of mastery (e.g., the local neighborhood piano teacher, then the local collegiate piano teacher, then a university professor at the nearest big city, then attendance as an undergraduate at nationally ranked music conservatory, then graduate and post-graduate conservatory studies with further master teachers, and so forth).
    There are probably examples of world class experts who have not had notable teachers, but these are so incredibly rare as to prove the rule that teachers are necessary. Just my two cents.

  • @dhruvyadav1737
    @dhruvyadav1737 Před 11 měsíci

    this was pretty nice :)))
    its like we have certain perceptions about certain things and in my case I feel like I know how this will work but watching these videos always opens up a new way of thinking

  • @kangzhu1640
    @kangzhu1640 Před rokem +1002

    Great content and thought provoking. I'm a radiologist with almost 20 years of experience in breast imaging. I'd like to indicate that our task in breast cancer diagnosis is not to actually determine if a finding is malignant or not. Rather, to look for features that are concerning for cancer, In which case we would do a biopsy. As we try to err on the side of caution, the usaual statistic quoted is that 70% of the biopsies are actually cancers. Therefore, this apparent "low" rate of accuracy is not a reflection of poor performance, nor is it related to a lack of feedback. In actuality each case we biopsy is followed by an accurate pathology report within days. Radiologists are involved in multidisciplenary rounds with our clinical colleagues and we also have internal quality assurance measures to ensure a high level of competence.

    • @NicolaiCzempin
      @NicolaiCzempin Před rokem +39

      My guess is that the original findings about performance of recent graduates vs long-time practitioners were over-simplified, much like the "10,000 hours rule" was.

    • @chinemeremohaeri9100
      @chinemeremohaeri9100 Před rokem

      Tom Nicholas actually got on Veritasium back for misinformation used only to further his narrative. I was expecting something like this, so I'm not really shocked.

    • @JK7H
      @JK7H Před rokem +32

      He wasn't referring to poor performance or lack of feedback, but how fast the feedback is received.

    • @BluefanNL
      @BluefanNL Před rokem +23

      So you're saying that where a computer would generate accurate result but have false positives and false negatives you err on the side of caution which results in more false positives but less false negatives as false positives are much less impactful? (superfluous biopsy vs missed cancer). Would interesting to have radiologist give their best estimate without being on the cautios side, but I don't know if the study tried this or even if that would work.

    • @coin5207
      @coin5207 Před rokem +16

      @@NicolaiCzempin but it makes sense in the context he provided which was diagnosing rare illnesses. For young graduates the many edge cases they learned in university are still relatively fresh in their minds

  • @MatheusLB2009
    @MatheusLB2009 Před rokem +21

    13:25 "I was rejected twice, so it's conforting to know they aren't great predictors of future success"
    *low-key flexing chad*

  • @subele_music
    @subele_music Před 9 měsíci +2

    The way you used the chessboards and turned them into pixelated faces was such a brilliant analogy and imagery.
    I had to pause the video and pull out my phone just to leave this comment. Bravo. I liked that so damn much.

    • @Angus-MacGyver
      @Angus-MacGyver Před 9 měsíci

      Did you recognize them? I think they are (from left to right): Charles Darwin, Martin Luther-King, Mahatma Ghandi, Abraham Lincoln.

  • @stayqurious
    @stayqurious Před 2 měsíci +33

    What I learned through this video :
    1. Valid Environment
    2. Repetitive Action(with feedback)
    3. Timely Feedback
    4. Deliberate Practice
    But it also requires things most important of them all "Patience" and "Perseverance".

  • @Darches
    @Darches Před rokem +523

    I've seen this in competitive games too. If player 1 plays for 100 hours and player 2 plays for 50 hours then watches replays of all his games to find mistakes, player 2 will be stronger. Deliberate practice is often the missing piece. It's the difference between playing for fun and playing to win.

    • @generalharness8266
      @generalharness8266 Před rokem +18

      I personally find if I am not winning its not fun but at the same if its to easy and there is no challenge its also not fun.

    • @clairruckman7674
      @clairruckman7674 Před rokem +11

      First, person uses brute forced trial and error as the later uses a more intelligent learning approach, but imo they'll end up in the same place. I'm top 1% Mass Effect 3, Dead by Daylight Iridescent 2, and back when I was young people would stop when I was at the arcade to watch me play, which I hated! Marvel Vs Capcom one quarter finish the entire game type good. Mortal Kombat not as good with as Marvel vs Capcom, but still could easily beat the game and nearly every person I'd ever played against. Only person who occasionally gave me a run for my money my cousin. All other family members and friends refused to play me:/ Now I'm old and wrists prevent me from being any good:/ My son in his prime gaming and even I've knock him and his friends socks off still to this day. Hard carry them even in games I don't even play. For Honor when it came out my son watched my very first time. He gave me a very quick how to. Perfect round, because frankly most video games all play pretty much the same. I.E. Go from COD to Battlefield to Overwatch and you should at least be mid leader board first few rounds.

    • @josephguzman4737
      @josephguzman4737 Před rokem +2

      Just like being a musician or a weekend warrior

    • @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal
      @UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal Před rokem +11

      I feel like taking a step back and really taking a look at what you're doing is a very understated yet extremely important part of improving
      Its so easy to get into the mindset of "Oh if i just do it more ill get better" but it doesnt always work like that, sometimes taking a step back and seeing exactly where it is that you're making mistakes can speed up the improvement process by leaps and bounds

    • @BigBootyBatman
      @BigBootyBatman Před rokem +3

      @@clairruckman7674 ah yes, another specimen of the "God Gamer" breed. We get rarer and rarer these days...

  • @eugenealive
    @eugenealive Před rokem +314

    When I was a teenager I trained myself to pronounce words in reverse. Absolutely useless skill but it was fun. I could reverse any word of any length just instantaneously. I didn't have to process it letter by letter, I just knew the result instantly, it was just popping out in my mind. But if you asked me to reverse a random set of letters instead of valid word I would fail. It worked only for real words.

    • @stephen3164
      @stephen3164 Před rokem +19

      I trained myself as a kid to read text upside down (simply turning the page around). I was able to read with the same speed, aloud or not, no matter which way the text was facing. I wish I could say I’ve found a use for this skill, but perhaps I use it all the time without realizing. (I haven’t actively done this in a while.)
      Closer in relation to your reverse reading skill, learned word by word, I type on a keyboard primarily with 3 fingers on each hand. Each word is a different pattern, and I can type quite fast, especially with words I type frequently, even if they are long words. On the flip* side, if I have to type a word that I easily know how to spell but rarely type, or a word that I’ve never typed, my typing speed drops a lot. I once typed a science paper that my wife had hand written. I didn’t know many of the words, and though I didn’t really need to look at the keyboard, my typing speed on these words was downright lethargic.

    • @Yiran
      @Yiran Před rokem +1

      how about the word "instantaneously"?

    • @eugeniabarsukova
      @eugeniabarsukova Před rokem +6

      I did the same thing, but I realised I reversed the pronunciation and not the spelling, so, say, "Pete" would be "teep" rather than "etep".

    • @trollar8810
      @trollar8810 Před rokem +2

      @@Yiran Instant takes me no time at all, but then the aneously takes quite a bit
      "Instantaneously" takes me about 2 seconds and a half to type, while i usually do so at ~90wpm

    • @DanielXavierDosReis
      @DanielXavierDosReis Před rokem

      You still do it ? Can you record a video about it ?

  • @Ashvitar
    @Ashvitar Před 11 měsíci

    How excellent is that content, precise, concise and fun to watch. Great job and thank you !

  • @tarnationzang7489
    @tarnationzang7489 Před 9 měsíci

    This explains alot in an elegant way. I've always noticed there can often be huge differences between 'experts' and some of that feels like its explained by this. Some correctly get all 4 factors and become true experts, some get the qualification without getting through all four elements and becomes an 'expert'.

  • @faus585
    @faus585 Před rokem +1888

    FOUR THINGS YOU NEED TO BECOME AN EXPERT
    1. valid environment (structured, patterned)
    2. many repetitions (not once-in-a-lifetime thing)
    3. timely feedback (feedback as soon as you perform an action)
    4. deliberate practice (practice outside of your comfort zone, at the edge of our ability, the zone of proximal learning)

    • @har1b
      @har1b Před rokem +31

      Valid environment
      Many repitation
      Timely feedback
      Deliberate practice

    • @randomuser5237
      @randomuser5237 Před rokem +43

      Writing out in bullet points and memorizing it will not make you an expert any more than watching the video. Unless you do these yourself there's no point.

    • @marcolerena456
      @marcolerena456 Před rokem +13

      Valid environment
      Many repetition
      Timely feedback
      Deliberate practice

    • @Mephistofred
      @Mephistofred Před rokem +17

      Valid Feedback
      Many Environment
      Timely Practice
      Deliberate Repetition

    • @uhhwhateverdude9463
      @uhhwhateverdude9463 Před rokem +7

      @Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Your comment is irrelevant to the video. Move along bot spammer!

  • @DrTrefor
    @DrTrefor Před rokem +703

    As a mathematician, these four factors definitely resonated with me and I think math is field that really encourages that deliberate practice. Great video!

    • @12345swordmaster
      @12345swordmaster Před rokem +33

      I'm a University undergrad in STEM, math is definitely a deliberate practice to learn it well, I found out the hard way that just memorizing patterns and formulas wasn't good enough. I always wondered how TA and professors got so good at math they were able to teach others, some of the TA tutors (Grad students that tutor undergrads) actually forgot some of the formulas for calculus (there are so many lol) but as soon as we would refresh them on the formula they were able to instantly crack on, and finished the examples effortlessly. Memorization of formulas is only a very small percentage of high performance in mathematics, its all about repetition, and putting yourself against hard problems that take an uncomfortable amount of thinking and time to solve.

    • @minemasterSAM
      @minemasterSAM Před rokem +3

      Math is my favorite subject (along with physics). If you one day revisit this comment, would you share with us what it’s like to work in your field and some tips on getting there?

    • @itzakehrenberg3449
      @itzakehrenberg3449 Před rokem +2

      Dr. B, As a fellow mathematician I have to say that I love your channel!

    • @ananthd4797
      @ananthd4797 Před rokem +6

      @@12345swordmaster It's actually kind of like chess. Imagine old math problems to be previous chess games. Everyone knows the rules, but experienced players can see a lot more patterns and tendencies when they encounter a problem.

    • @12345swordmaster
      @12345swordmaster Před rokem +2

      @@ananthd4797 yes but you have to practice

  • @Gladys_smith
    @Gladys_smith Před 6 měsíci +1005

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      @angelicstennett Před 6 měsíci +1

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  • @Dannykay331
    @Dannykay331 Před 9 měsíci +293

    Becoming a good trader takes time and patience. When i first got into trading i was liquidated twice, and lost my entire mortgage deposit. I could have given up, but decided to learn how to trade and put it into practice. 4 years later and i am glad i made that decision.

    • @Robertgriffinne
      @Robertgriffinne Před 9 měsíci +4

      When did you start finding consistency? ..and more honest question is how long would a rough expectation be to find consistency for a new day trader?

    • @Dannykay331
      @Dannykay331 Před 9 měsíci +2

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    • @partyhardcake
      @partyhardcake Před 9 měsíci +25

      The bots are becoming more advanced

  • @dainbramage9508
    @dainbramage9508 Před rokem +305

    Something else that goes along with the route to becoming an expert are the 4 stages of learning.
    1. Unconscious Incompetence, you're bad but aren't aware of exactly how bad you are because you know very little of the skill or subject you're practicing.
    2. Conscious Incompetence, you have a better grasp on the subject knowledge and its depths after putting in a good amount of time and practice but you're not quite good at it yet.
    3. Conscious Competence, you've put in enough time and effort with enough feedback that you're now good at what you're doing but it's a conscious effort and you'll screw up if you aren't concentrating enough.
    4. Unconscious Competence, you've practiced long enough and put in so much time and effort that you can perform the skill or talk about the subject as easy as walking, you may dip into Conscious Competence if you encounter an infrequent occurrence in your skill or subject but you've got what it takes to get through it 👍

    • @d1ab
      @d1ab Před rokem +13

      never thought a combination of two words could convey such an important concept, thanks!

    • @NishantSharma-tr6xl
      @NishantSharma-tr6xl Před rokem +1

      No.3 is what currently i am experiencing in day trading

    • @kb.e3762
      @kb.e3762 Před rokem +7

      Unconscious Competence can be a weakness too unless you are working in a factory line

    • @Shankar-Bhaskar
      @Shankar-Bhaskar Před rokem

      @@NishantSharma-tr6xl
      Yeah right!!

    • @Carolynnhardwicke
      @Carolynnhardwicke Před rokem +2

      @@kb.e3762 it makes for a lousy teacher. I try to identify areas in which I am unconsciously competent so I can break down my understanding

  • @RealCheesyBread
    @RealCheesyBread Před rokem +1005

    In my freshman year of highschool, my math teacher gave us a challenge where the student who could remember the most digits of PI on PI-day (March 14th) would get a few points added to their lowest test score. This gave us like 4 days or something to try to remember.
    I won with 100 digits. Nobody else really cared that much so the most anyone else got was like 10 digits.
    Yes I am as much of a loser now as I was back then.

    • @SergioCruz7811
      @SergioCruz7811 Před rokem +164

      not a loser

    • @dewiz9596
      @dewiz9596 Před rokem +27

      Pi day only occurs in the US

    • @gslidevideotester8592
      @gslidevideotester8592 Před rokem +120

      >I won with 100 digits. Nobody else really cared that much so the most anyone else got was like 10 digits.
      >Yes I am as much of a loser now as I was back then.
      so you are an overwhelming winner now then?

    • @alansteyrbach6926
      @alansteyrbach6926 Před rokem +73

      @@gslidevideotester8592 saying that he is loser, he points out his desperation in a typically occuring pathetic situation. He was so desperate to get at least some points that he put overwhelming amount of effort to get insignificant improvement. It is like selling a car for $20, bc he missed a chance to sell it for $20k, and now he tries to get at least something but zero.

    • @baruk9706
      @baruk9706 Před rokem +5

      As long as you’re having fun and happy

  • @rolandfisher
    @rolandfisher Před 7 měsíci

    Excellent! For those that stumble with "Valid Environment," like I used to, not understanding what makes an environment valid, there is a better way to think of it than those terms. Ensure you can link your efforts to your results with cause and effect. Stock fluctuations are random, and there is no way to understand the cause and effect. Chess is not random. Each move has an effect.
    So, the summary is :
    1. Work at the edge of your ability, trying hard.
    2. Where you can know the outcome of your efforts rapidly.
    3. Ensure you can link your effort and outcome with cause and effect.
    4. Keep doing it for a very long time until the complex solidifies in your longterm memory, and becomes automatic.

  • @timb7342
    @timb7342 Před rokem +496

    "People we think of as experts, but actually aren't." This is such a big piece of the puzzle that is the modern world. Thank you!

    • @AkamiChannel
      @AkamiChannel Před rokem +1

      Amen!

    • @ooc6921
      @ooc6921 Před rokem

      Like who

    • @Deuk
      @Deuk Před rokem +18

      @@ooc6921 journalist, columnists, dietary guru's etc.

    • @bobbyd9319
      @bobbyd9319 Před rokem +1

      Look at the so called experts during covid, either lied to us, or didn’t know their head from a hole in the ground.

    • @philippe-lebel
      @philippe-lebel Před rokem +5

      @@Deuk If their aim is to earn money and have social status without kwoning so much they are expert ;)

  • @jessicatatum7769
    @jessicatatum7769 Před rokem +683

    100% this is how I was trained to be a ballet dancer and I didn't even recognize it. We do the same movements in slightly varying patterns every single day in a structured class, and for actual repertoire we repeat the EXACT same movements over and over, with a teacher or coach telling you what to improve after each attempt. As you get stronger, you do more and more challenging combinations of movement with increased complexity and strength requirements, and you spend more time reviewing and conditioning on your own time. Eventually you get really good at learning and doing choreography in certain styles/from certain choreographers because you start to recognize the patterns of movement they tend to employ.

    • @entelektuel.yolculuk
      @entelektuel.yolculuk Před rokem

      @xio kousa are ye a ballet teacher? If so, can I ask ye sth: are the moves and choreographies of men and women the same in ballet? We do have playlists of dance lessons in the channel of Maria Khreva and North Pacific Ballet channel, but I dunno if I should learn and apply those as a male? Because what I see is there are women learning there.... Thanx .... Best.. .

    • @thenamelessdragonfish
      @thenamelessdragonfish Před rokem +1

      Same for learning piano.

    • @sketchAsketch
      @sketchAsketch Před rokem +2

      @@entelektuel.yolculuk I would say if you’re trying to learn ballet, get lessons at a studio.

    • @sketchAsketch
      @sketchAsketch Před rokem +1

      @@entelektuel.yolculuk take that with a grain of salt though, because I’m far from a teacher, it’s only my second year on pointe.

    • @whatabouttheearth
      @whatabouttheearth Před rokem

      Same with guitar, you start with basic chords and scales and than over time overlap them with slightly more complicated things.
      Think about how all the universe began with Hydrogen, and that formed Helium and on and on to more extreme complexity (sort of). Or how we learned a language when we were infants, one of the most complex things alot of people ever learn and they learned it as an infant.
      The entire complexity of the universe is small basic things stack upon other small basic things to gain what in evolutionary biology is called 'emergent properties', new functions that can only be gained through the development of a system of multiple individual components that were not capable of those functions with the individual components alone.

  • @formercuckolder
    @formercuckolder Před 10 měsíci +1

    This is one of the most useful videos I've watched so far.
    Thank you so much.
    Let's keep becoming experts at something. 💪🧠

  • @dancu9271
    @dancu9271 Před 9 měsíci

    A lot of thanks for making and sharing your video!!

  • @Krimo42
    @Krimo42 Před rokem +335

    I find it fascinating how everything in this video is very closely connected to how reinforcement learning and machine learning algorithms work. A model of the environment within which an agent can perform actions, learning the optimal policy with value/policy iteration, an immediate reward after taking an action, and exploration vs exploitation. Amazing!

    • @ampac
      @ampac Před rokem +11

      The strategies used in RL and other ML approaches are mostly derived from mathematical frameworks, such as stochastic control methods, which are designed to tackle optimisation problems. These frameworks have been around at least since the 1950s. The studies from cognitive psychology we have today on how our brain tackles similar problems are not as revolutionary as they sound despite all the fancy new terminology.

    • @masonp5
      @masonp5 Před rokem +1

      @@ampac Check out neuromorphic computing, it uses ideas verrrry similar to the ones in this video

    • @YSFmemories
      @YSFmemories Před rokem

      AI neural networks are literally modelled after human ones, no? Shouldn't be surprising

    • @kyleharwell5299
      @kyleharwell5299 Před rokem +3

      That is a great observation, and not an accident! One of Ericsson's mentors was Herbert Simon, one of the earliest scientists to seriously study artificial intelligence. It was their work on decision making, and later expert memory, that inspired the deliberate practice and expert performance research.

    • @cagedgandalf3472
      @cagedgandalf3472 Před rokem +2

      I mean that *is* the goal of RL, mimicking human learning.

  • @maxleveladventures
    @maxleveladventures Před rokem +786

    #4: Don't be comfortable.
    This instantly reminded me of H Day in Sweden, the day when everyone switched driving from the left to the right side of the roadways. Many people were certain that it would cause untold deaths and many more accidents. In fact, for many years afterward, accident rates plummeted. The assumption is that people were suddenly paying much closer attention to how they drive. Having driven on the opposite side of the road in another country, I'm sure that it also made driving fairly stressful, but that seems like a fair price to pay for fewer injuries and deaths caused by lazy, comfortable driving habits. #4 is a great, general lesson.
    The whole event is rather fascinating. If you're curious to learn more about it, there's a great, short episode by the podcast "99% Invisible" that's worth checking out. It's episode 215, titled "H-Day."

    • @theicethief4804
      @theicethief4804 Před rokem +25

      Don't be too comfortable. It is important that you sacrifice some of your comfortably to advance in New subjects or the tasks you are doing, if you are always uncomfortable with what you are doing you are either going to leave the hobby or find it too hard to continue. It is wise if you make yourself comfortable after working hard but never get too lazy

    • @howiestillgamez5326
      @howiestillgamez5326 Před rokem +27

      they should switch sides of the road once a year!

    • @JoaoPedroPT696
      @JoaoPedroPT696 Před rokem +7

      One Englishman once said when he was the driving in my country (which is right-hand traffic) that the more complicated stuff were the roundabouts, but that you "just go with the flow". I remember that story in Sweden.

    • @0topon
      @0topon Před rokem +3

      Only for the next 2 years was the accident rate below the levels before the change

    • @hydra5758
      @hydra5758 Před rokem +8

      @@howiestillgamez5326 No no no, it has to be once every 10 years so everyone stays on their toes and keep having to relearn both.

  • @jimhyslop
    @jimhyslop Před rokem +2

    I have on occasion interviewed candidates for job openings. I learned to distinguish between people who had 10 years experience vs. people who got too comfortable, and had 1 year of experience repeated 10 times.

  • @Patrick-qk2tl
    @Patrick-qk2tl Před rokem

    The most important video of this channel so far and one of the most important videos on YT for sure! Thank you!

  • @kindredtoast3439
    @kindredtoast3439 Před rokem +484

    That was one of the best intros I've ever seen in a video. It took 5 minutes to get to the point of the video, but the 5 minutes were so interesting that I didn't even realize they'd passed at all. And they set the rest of the video up so well. Excellent job.

    • @Robert-iu2ou
      @Robert-iu2ou Před rokem +7

      This comment resonated when i realized i was already 12 minutes into the video

    • @llamagaming8998
      @llamagaming8998 Před rokem +2

      This is one of the best techniques to make an infotainmwnt video, I call it the johnny harris technique. Where u start with examples, examples examples n the the explanation...Instead of doing the opposite which is the norm

    • @BB-zq6hy
      @BB-zq6hy Před rokem +6

      Yeah veratasium is an expert at creating entertaining information... by using the very things discussed in this video most likely! Haha! His short part about youtube's feedback has probably helped him realize the patterns of a video people stay engaged with

    • @GamesForNoobs
      @GamesForNoobs Před rokem +1

      Most of his vids are like that

  • @iWatchYoutube2601
    @iWatchYoutube2601 Před rokem +340

    Derek, this video and narration gave me a lot of courage and motivation to continue my learning of computer science. I’ve been practicing some of the same problems, just to master them. But anytime I try something new, even if it involves some of the same steps, I’m lost. This helped me break down some of the necessary steps I need to take to understand more about computer science and programming. As always, thanks for the amazing video! Wonderful production recently.

    • @andrewlalis
      @andrewlalis Před rokem +6

      Go get it man. There's a lot to learn, but you've got the right attitude.

    • @amdreallyfast
      @amdreallyfast Před rokem +4

      In my experience in software engineering, half the learning is often just figuring out the shorthand, lingo, and abstractions of whomever I'm trying to learn from. It's difficult, but doable :)

    • @iWatchYoutube2601
      @iWatchYoutube2601 Před rokem +2

      Thank you for the kind words and inspiration Andrew and John. I’ve just been practicing Python the last few weeks. I go back to school in a few weeks though taking comp. Sci classes for the first time. I just switched over from a history major. It’s been super interesting and very rewarding getting into Python and comp. Sci as a whole

    • @Djellowman
      @Djellowman Před rokem

      So brave

    • @krishp1104
      @krishp1104 Před rokem +3

      Like John said, coding is 90% figuring out how to apply what you already know in your current scenario

  • @neerajwa
    @neerajwa Před 5 měsíci +4

    I am a teacher and a coach. I appreciate these videos greatly. It will help me in improving my students.

  • @zaid2095
    @zaid2095 Před měsícem

    This is phenomenal. What you've said in this article, could be enough and quality material for a nature reviews paper. Excellent!

  • @CutiePi
    @CutiePi Před rokem +246

    After having read Moonwalking with Einstein, Fooled by Randomness, Sapiens and Thinking fast and slow. This really felt like a condensed version of parts of each book combined.
    Very good video, cheers !

    • @LukePuplett
      @LukePuplett Před rokem +21

      Allow me to add Grit by Angela Duckworth. The book focuses on the Deliberate Practice aspect.
      My criticism of books and videos on success or productivity, as well as schools in general, is that they fail to discuss the relationship between acquiring expertise and making money. The system we live under was designed to reward the people who control the means of production.
      You can become an expert, but if someone else employs you, it's unlikely you'll ever earn a great deal and you may feel after 10,000 hours of toil that you've been sold a lie. The are exceptions of course, but in general, experts are paid their average market rate which is usually a fraction of what shareholders make.
      This explains why wealthy business owners are so often non-experts. I don't mean Elon Musk, but the many millionaires that run small businesses around the world. Often they understood the game when young, perhaps because a family member was a capitalist, and they realised that they can skip school and just buy-in and coordinate hard working experts.
      In my personal life, the smartest and deepest thinking people I know are far from the wealthiest. Sometimes it feels like an inverse correlation. My wealthiest friends aren't particularly bright and don't read, but they do all run businesses where they hire smart people to do the actual work, or use leverage to buy property and rent seek. If they have become experts, then their skills are working the system to their advantage and convincing people they have the expertise that actually their employees have.
      This may seem cynical, but it is my lived experience and my observation, and these friends are open and proud about their money making skills. To be financially successful, being an expert is not enough. You must also have something to trade, own the means of production, and decide your own wages, which may include owning the means of producing CZcams content. In other words, you must become an expert in making and keeping money.

    • @XPPrivate
      @XPPrivate Před rokem +2

      @@LukePuplett To become an expert in anything you have to focus on a skill. As you become better at something the niche that can appreciate your skill becomes smaller and smaller. Therefore your reach will become smaller and smaller the better you get and that is normal.
      I don't see that as a problem at all, because money should be directly correlated to RISK.
      An expert making an mistake will only affect an small number of people. A business owner making a mistake will impact maybe millions of people. Its because the difference in risk that there is a difference in compensation.

    • @LukePuplett
      @LukePuplett Před rokem +3

      ​@@XPPrivate There are a faults in this analysis.
      - As you become better at something, your reach may become very broad. For example, you may become a leader in coronavirus research.
      - A coronavirus expert making a mistake could cause a pandemic.
      - How much do firefighters, miners, or Bangladeshi's dismantling ships, make?
      - How much does Derek make from CZcams and what's the impact when he messes up?
      - What if author JK Rowling's next book is bad?
      - If you rank the world's wealthiest people by net worth and then by risk/impact of their actions, does the order change much?
      - If you have an idea and start a business and get investors, you can pay yourself a salary and hire experts. This is common with non-technical tech company start-ups. If it fails, you have two options a) try again, in which case you're more investable because you have experience of what not to do b) get a well paid job. There's no risk here.
      But consider that the average business is small and in your local town. The owner's mistake might temporarily impact a dozen employees and several hundred customers, and yet they will drive the Bentley, own a couple of Patek Phillip watches and live in a big house, because they realised what I described above and went about making it happen.
      The risk argument simply doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Neither being an expert nor risk accounts for wealth.
      Owning the means of production, whether you have a team of people making desks, or fixing people's teeth, or own your own written words (even if you got an expert ghost writer to write them), is the key.
      Here's a final one: look up how much song writers get paid, vs. the people that sing them, and the shareholders of the record company.
      What's the pattern? The shareholders get most of the money, the expert songwriter gets $52,000 a year, on average, across all the songs they write.
      Teaching kids how to become an expert without teaching them who actually earns the lion's share of the money their expertise generates under our capitalist system, is a disservice.
      Some people discover this at work. They look around, they see how the business operates, they think, why am I earning x when I could run a business like this and pay myself y. And they start their own thing. They realise the game, and they realise it has nothing to do with expertise.

    • @cautarepvp2079
      @cautarepvp2079 Před rokem

      @@LukePuplett damn such a good comment.
      But its not that simple, it takes soo much time to be great at something

    • @LukePuplett
      @LukePuplett Před rokem +1

      @@cautarepvp2079 It does take time, but it's time that must be lived anyway.
      My point isn't that one should not become great at something, but that one should enter into the journey understanding the system and whether other people will be the main beneficiaries of your sacrifice.

  • @mayatrash
    @mayatrash Před rokem +693

    As a trained physicist this was really interesting. I have not the best memory recall, some guys know the answer to a problem they did years ago, but I always have a „gut feeling“ how the equations will emerge and I can see a strong pattern in equations, even looking at it for a small amount of time is often enough to restructure the stuff in my head - even when not perfect, it’s a good cope for a usually bad memory recall

    • @kareandersson
      @kareandersson Před rokem +13

      He forgot the most important factor - genetics.

    • @UncleKennysPlace
      @UncleKennysPlace Před rokem +41

      @@kareandersson Not the most important, in my view.

    • @rigira
      @rigira Před rokem +45

      @@kareandersson in terms of improving, u shouldn't even focus on that because u can't change it lol

    • @nihinkcmxhfwnhi
      @nihinkcmxhfwnhi Před rokem +17

      I'm just going to hit a like for that username lmao

    • @riskyraccoon
      @riskyraccoon Před rokem +9

      at first I read, "As a tamed physicist this was really interesting" and now I'm worried that no physicist will ever be tamed

  • @gus42
    @gus42 Před rokem +1

    100% motivating, inspirationnal and most of all these are ways to think that we don''t usually hear about. Don't know if I was clear but thx !

  • @dennyawright21
    @dennyawright21 Před 4 měsíci +2

    Extremely useful! Thank you.
    This explains why we see "experts" getting it wrong almost all the time. This should be a required course for our young.
    I think we confuse an opinion with an "expert".
    Coding we can have experts. I am in this area.
    I think more healthy skepticism would make our society better.

  • @frederf3227
    @frederf3227 Před rokem +565

    Famous quote: "To the beginner there are many possibilities. To the master there are few." Mastery cuts out the ways of doing things that aren't as good. This sharpens their ability but also ossifies their mind against new ideas. Re: the chess board replication. Practical or random the beginner was doing the same task, but the master's ability to use familiar patterns to compress information suffered in the random layout. The new guy on the shop thinks there are many ways to improve the business, even though those ideas are mostly wrong. The boss thinks there are no other ways and is almost certainly wrong.
    As for practice, it helps to "push yourself" but not burn yourself out. If the math problem or guitar lick is too hard you don't take anything from it. Your abilities are a rubber envelope. You want to stretch it with tension but not tear it with force. Drummers for example play a rhythm slowly for 100% accuracy and then ramp up the tempo until they start to come unglued and then relax the tempo again before too many errors happen.
    The most amazing and intimidating thing about expertise is not that people do things you could never do but realizing that they are things you might be able to given the input and that they themselves were like you are now when they started.

    • @lepsycho3691
      @lepsycho3691 Před rokem +2

      Who said that?

    • @himan12345678
      @himan12345678 Před rokem +11

      @@lepsycho3691 they should say proverb/saying, and not quote. That's like calling the proverb, "Jack of all trades; master of none...better than a master of one" a famous quote.

    • @JohnnyArtPavlou
      @JohnnyArtPavlou Před rokem

      Very nice.

    • @Jinryuushi
      @Jinryuushi Před rokem

      Amen!

    • @lerafa
      @lerafa Před rokem

      as a drummer, I agree

  • @stephen3164
    @stephen3164 Před rokem +333

    The “25 years playing guitar” comment rings true for me. I’ve been playing for 35 years, but I really only actively learned and practiced for the first 5-6 years. Joining a band and learning 30 new songs would give me a boost every so often, but mainly my guitar skills are at a certain level bc I stopped actively learning how to play new stuff, and instead play songs I’ve been playing for years. I have no desire to get any better and find enjoyment out of how I currently play.

    • @schneider1896
      @schneider1896 Před rokem +2

      Guitar can easily be seen as the most competitive object in the world. It's very popular, hard to see more popular.
      It's sooooo hard to "master"

    • @trybunt
      @trybunt Před rokem +7

      @@schneider1896 guitar the most competitive object? I find that hard to believe, I can think of so many equally or more competitive- the sword has been around for thousands of years, people mastering it in life and death situations. The spear or bow/arrow have been around even more, people eating or starving based on accuracy. Cars, pens, balls.. I don't think the guitar is the most competitive object

    • @andretsang7337
      @andretsang7337 Před rokem +16

      I think this is underrated. Becoming a professional is overrated, and just having a good time is also very valid. Not everyone has to be world-class. Just jamming out is a success in and of itself

    • @EmpressMermaid
      @EmpressMermaid Před rokem +3

      @@andretsang7337 You're right, sometimes becoming an expert on something can very quickly sap the joy out of it. I play guitar, too. Have been at it 3 years and I'm absolutely horrible. But that's ok because I love playing.

    • @drdelewded
      @drdelewded Před rokem +1

      Been playing guitar since 1987.. I still suck and have been in 5 performing bands hahaha
      Once I learned barre chords 30+ years ago I could make songs and stopped "learning" anything else
      And honestly I dont care to.

  • @Blindsaplol
    @Blindsaplol Před 16 dny

    I agree on everything said here but tbh there is 1 crucial part ( imo ) that we re forgeting and its... the passion. This is I think the keystone to becoming an expert in something. If you love what you re doing then you can spend countless hours at improoving and becoming the best.

  • @EyaBenFredj
    @EyaBenFredj Před 5 měsíci

    My fav youtube channel everrr as an engineering student!! keep up the great work.

  • @collapsingspace
    @collapsingspace Před rokem +942

    This is easily my fav video on this channel, or anywhere really on the subject of learning and mastery. Its weirdly more inspiring than hour long talks you hear on this subject that's supposed to motivate you, but unlike those this is just 18 mins of hard-hitting concrete concepts that's proven to work. Amazing 🔥

    • @commie281
      @commie281 Před rokem +12

      Definitely the most objective and helpful video to date. Thankful for this too

    • @supremedreams2
      @supremedreams2 Před rokem +8

      I agree, we should all try something new and if we like it, no matter what it is, if it can be improved we should keep trying no matter how hard it gets

    • @CalvinHikes
      @CalvinHikes Před rokem +6

      This reminds me of a book I recently read called "barking up the wrong tree." It demonstrates ways people can actually be successful rather than ways people think they will be successful. Only valid hard evidence as to what actually works versus what we think works but actually doesn't.
      For example, being told "good luck" is proven to actually raise test scores versus people who don't have someone tell them that. We would dismiss it but it's actually proven to raise people's success rate.

    • @CorporationSKY
      @CorporationSKY Před 7 měsíci

      48 laws author Robert Green Wrote a book called Mastery that breaks down how having a concrete "Reason", calling, or emotional tie is the basis of all of this. Which is futher explored in "Start with Why" by Simon Sinek.

    • @crescentfresh8001
      @crescentfresh8001 Před měsícem

      Agreed. With motivational speeches and the like, it leaves you open to "Yeah, but..." thoughts. ("Yeah, but my case is different...", "Yeah, but only for [group of perceived special cases]..."). This type of video is far more helpful, as it makes it clear that not only can anyone do it, but we've all been doing it since birth without even realizing it. Pretty much shuts down our tendency to assume that we're the outliers who can't improve. (something I fall victim to daily, lol)

  • @marten837
    @marten837 Před rokem +540

    Interesting to think about this in the context of my own field: Computer Science. Especially when writing code, it does illuminate some things for me. I work with a lot of scientist from other fields who mostly write software as a tool for expressing ideas from their respective fields. Most of them have had little to no formal training in writing code before starting to work. What I notice is that these people fairly easy learn how to avoid bugs and write code that executes, but are terrible at preventing structural issues (e.g. does this software scale easily or how easy is it to add new functionality in the future). The timely feedback issue seems crititcal here. When trying to write code that executes, the feedback is almost immediate: The software returns an error on running or it doesn't. The structural problems however aren't evaluated by any immediate system or even at all (especially for people who's main area of expertise is actually not software).

    • @JustAnotherJarhead
      @JustAnotherJarhead Před rokem +1

      "Most of them have had little to no formal training in writing code before starting to work" = As a non-coder , this is totally impressive to me. I would love to be able to code without formal training. How are they even able to pull this off?

    • @jaysmythe154
      @jaysmythe154 Před rokem

      Wait, ...what? X

    • @webdevelopmentwithjavascri8020
      @webdevelopmentwithjavascri8020 Před rokem +1

      I totally agree with you.

    • @MmmhMarky
      @MmmhMarky Před rokem +13

      @@JustAnotherJarhead I am not a professional coder but have coded a few impressive stuffs. I program to how I think like solving a puzzle. It has no structure. For example, I once wanted to search for a product fast. I didn't like the idea of searching a file, one line at a time which is a huge waste of time. Then, I came up with a search that narrows down half at a time, which means that searching through 500,000 and 1,000,000 is just one search apart. (In addition to that, I was programming in assembly language Masm for speed.) Later on, I found it that it was called binary search.

    • @fd4511
      @fd4511 Před rokem +10

      A computer program is a tool. Some tools are only going to be used by scientists to solve a repetitive problem, while other programs will be sold to customers. The structural requirements will be different, of course. While not being a scientist, I can suspect that a scientist wouldn't want to spend an expensive time to build a beautiful code that will not be facing outwards, nor scale up later. If there's a need for such a level of quality, they'd be outsourcing coding anyway, after a prototyping stage. I'd imagine that scientists are concerned with higher level solutions to problems, and proofs of concept, while the engineers actually go more in-depth and anticipate quality control, code security, etc.

  • @user-gg4is6db4u
    @user-gg4is6db4u Před měsícem

    Came to this late, but I have just retired as a management consultant in Information Risk Management and Security. I considered myself an expert after 35-50 years (I started in IT, moved to IT audit and then consultancy - all related environments), and I'm gratified to see that I meet all the criteria mentioned here. I worked with hundreds of companies (who gave pretty direct feedback!) in all different industries, but they all have information governance requirements in common. I was always looking for new challenges and learning new skills.

  • @hammadsiddiqui2980
    @hammadsiddiqui2980 Před 10 měsíci

    This is such an informative and acknowledgeable channel.

  • @anindyasundarmanna6683
    @anindyasundarmanna6683 Před rokem +172

    "We see patterns if everywhere, including where there is no pattern" - sounds a lot like the overfitting problem of a neural network! Great video as always Derek!

    • @Nevir202
      @Nevir202 Před rokem +4

      Ya, exactly. Human brains are made to recognize patters and difference, so we'll see both, even where they don't exist.

    • @charlietian4023
      @charlietian4023 Před rokem

      Good connection

    • @ania5038
      @ania5038 Před rokem +3

      "There are no regularities to be learned" is such a nice phrase lol

    • @reverse_engineered
      @reverse_engineered Před rokem

      It's not overfitting if you consider the loss function. If we see something moving in the shadows and we aren't sure if it's a threat or not, should we give each equal weight? No, because the risks are different. If we think it's dangerous and react as such when it isn't, our risk is little more than embarrassment, having to take an alternate path, or possibly missing out on an opportunity. But if it is dangerous and we react as if it's not, then we could face incredible losses including death. This may not be as relevant in our modern world, but evolving in the wild where predators and competitors are numerous, it is favorable to err on the side of caution because the cost of a false negative is much worse than the cost of a false positive.
      The same is true in policing, medical testing, inspecting bridges, and many other areas. When the cost of a false negative is very large, and when the cost of a false positive is relatively small, you lean towards more false positives and fewer false negatives.

    • @anindyasundarmanna6683
      @anindyasundarmanna6683 Před rokem +1

      ​@@reverse_engineered While what you are saying makes perfect sense, there is a fundamental flaw to your assumption. The whole premise here is, (read again) - finding pattern where there is NO pattern.
      Not that there can be a pattern. Which is exactly what overfitting is. And that was merely the point of the comment. Your argument, while perfectly logical otherwise, misses the point.

  • @DrAgasa_anime
    @DrAgasa_anime Před rokem +282

    I have been watching this channel since 2011 and it remains one of the most interesting and thought-provoking CZcams channels.
    It has been a pleasure to experience the evolution of this channel. I remember being amazed by your slinky drop video and being stumped by the bullet block video. Over the years, your physics videos have really challenged my critical thinking and it has been very rewarding.
    Recently, however, you have really outdone yourself. Videos like this one and your Bayes Theorem video have truly challenged how I view the world at a fundamental level. There may be a lot of science educators out there, but some of the videos you produce are truly one of a kind.

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 Před rokem +7

      Dr. Agasa: "Be Smart" channel by PBS is excellent as well.

    • @Call_Upon_YAH
      @Call_Upon_YAH Před rokem

      Hey! Did you know God is three in one!? The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit! Bless him!
      Jesus died for our sins, rose from the dead, and gives salvation to everyone who has faith in him! True faith in Jesus will have you bear good fruit and *drastically* change for the better!
      Have a blessed day, everyone! ❤

    • @Call_Upon_YAH
      @Call_Upon_YAH Před rokem

      Your worries (yes, anxiety), depression, suicidal thoughts, EVERYTHING will melt away and be NO MORE when you lean on God and put your trust in him! When I have physical pain, I literally pray and the Lord quells it, that I am healed!
      Know that there is power in the name Jesus Christ! His name casts out demons and heals! People are bothered by his name. The world hates the truth and wants to continue living sinfully! God's children are set apart (holy) and righteous.

    • @violetviolet888
      @violetviolet888 Před rokem +1

      @@Call_Upon_YAH God doesn't exist. Do your research on all religions first before posting.

    • @wouldyoureturntomonke2452
      @wouldyoureturntomonke2452 Před rokem

      @@Call_Upon_YAH Jesus saves who? monke?

  • @iULTRA21
    @iULTRA21 Před měsícem +1

    1- repeated attempts with feedback
    Sports like tennis and football you see where you hit your shot, and if the ball goes to net. Physics you see wheither answer is right or wrong. Chess you see if you when or lose.
    2- Valid environment. Wheither the thing is random or not. Like roulette and stocks.
    3- Timely feedback. Try to get feedback immediately after your work, CZcams gives feedback after videos and compares it with the older ones.
    13:35 Most important part
    4- Don't get comfortable. The practice you're doing should be effective and uncomfortable. Like doing the same thing won't always make you better. Studying the thing and doing uncomfortable stuff will. (Deliberate practice) You should practice at the edge of your ability beyond your comfort zone, attempt things repeatedly that you're not good at. Without deliberate practice your performance could actually decrease.
    16:05 great conclusion

  • @ericfieldman
    @ericfieldman Před 4 měsíci +2

    Similar to this is the fact that in my tech class, which was basically a more broad shop class, we were told it's the experts who most often fail to follow the safety rules because they gain confidence and lose diligence, whereas if you've just been told you could lose fingers and resonate with that because of your own lack of experience, you'll usually be very careful

    • @ericfieldman
      @ericfieldman Před 2 měsíci

      @punkinhoot maybe he wanted to sacrifice his temporary use of the finger in exchange for a lifelong adherence to safety regulations by the students. Doubt they ever thought, "I don't need to follow this to the letter, I know what I'm doing"

  • @sen5956
    @sen5956 Před rokem +921

    I think without love and obsession for what you do, those steps can feel unbearable. If you love what you do deeply and are obsessed with it... being uncomfortable is not even that bad. It's like Kobe Bryant tearing his achilles, shooting free throws and walking off the court.. He said that when the game is the most important, you don't even feel the pain. I'm sure he's been in pain and uncomfortable a whole lot in his career but he LOVED the game of basketball too much to even care about the discomfort. He was obsessed.

    • @user-sc8ph2ds2m
      @user-sc8ph2ds2m Před rokem +4

      @lim sowq Just common knowledge bruh

    • @cherianafreen7528
      @cherianafreen7528 Před rokem +2

      क्या आप अधिक विस्तार से उत्तर दे सकते हैं?

    • @jonjeskie5234
      @jonjeskie5234 Před rokem +36

      Yea "passion" is the immeasurable quality that can actually override *everything* else.

    • @mikeshinwa3398
      @mikeshinwa3398 Před rokem +18

      It’s incredible how something which sounds idealistic (such as parents telling their kids to pursue a career ‘they are passionate about’) can ultimately be the one thing that enables us to willingly go through these steps.

    • @en2336
      @en2336 Před rokem +3

      What do you do when depression makes it so that you're passionate about anything? :(

  • @chja00
    @chja00 Před rokem +504

    I can strongly recommend the book "Peak" by K Anders Ericsson. It nicely summarizes the authors research on deliberate practice, and it's quite accessible - written in a style that reminded me of "Thinking, Fast and Slow". It's very good followup reading to this video.

    • @maxtrix1
      @maxtrix1 Před rokem +2

      I thought the same, this video seems very similar as what Coleman says in his book

    • @augustbramming4926
      @augustbramming4926 Před rokem +3

      Thanks for the recommendation!

    • @soulextracter
      @soulextracter Před rokem +3

      Note for future self.

    • @anjitnarwal6676
      @anjitnarwal6676 Před rokem

      Range by David Epstein

    • @wesi782
      @wesi782 Před rokem +2

      "Talent is overrated" "Peak" and "Grit".

  • @JoshKings-tr2vc
    @JoshKings-tr2vc Před 4 měsíci +1

    The original study for the 10,000 hours of practice was a general number derived from asking multiple high level experts in a diverse set of fields. Newer studies have found that it takes only about 20 hours of deliberate practice to become proficient or excel in any given field (Not mastery).

  • @easytos
    @easytos Před rokem +117

    This is why learning a new language is easier when you have someone to converse with. You get that feedback, unlike trying to learn via a book, audio/video programs or even with a language learning software (which gives some level of feedback, but it's pretty limiting.)

  • @shreehariprasad6432
    @shreehariprasad6432 Před rokem +313

    This video is thousand times more helpful than a thousand self-help motivational videos here on CZcams,,, thanks 🙏

  • @chrislwin6372
    @chrislwin6372 Před měsícem

    Learning is incredible. You get yourself to be vulnerable until you’re on the other side and you’re like arrh that makes sense. Good luck on whatever you want to become an expert at, you can do it. Cheers

  • @madkate42
    @madkate42 Před rokem

    This is such a great and inspiring video! THank you so much for posting it

  • @shubhkedia259
    @shubhkedia259 Před rokem +354

    'And we see patterns everywhere, including in randomness'. This topic was covered in Cosmos : A space time Odyssey. I loved it when he says and I loved it when you said it too. Its is just so true. We strive to find patterns in everything and fail to do so many times.

    • @MichaelSteeves
      @MichaelSteeves Před rokem +14

      I have hearing loss and in common with many others in that situation, my brain tries to find patterns in random noise. It is common to think there is a radio playing in the distance because your brain is desperately trying to find patterns where they don't exist.

    • @TheXuism
      @TheXuism Před rokem +2

      The definition of real randomness is there is no pattern at all.

    • @garethbaus5471
      @garethbaus5471 Před rokem +3

      @@TheXuism not exactly, truly random things can have plenty of apparent patterns within them there just anything consistently creating the pattern.

    • @guysumpthin2974
      @guysumpthin2974 Před rokem +2

      But wisdom trumps knowledge & experience, yet together you get REAL experts . Without wisdom the results are usually poor to average, no matter how much experience/ training/ diploma/ certs

    • @kotavenkatabharghav7222
      @kotavenkatabharghav7222 Před rokem +7

      astrology summed up. people try to see patterns in things and are swayed by confirmational bias

  • @treiweber7096
    @treiweber7096 Před rokem +375

    I use to be a hockey goaltender, the pattern recognition part of the game never crossed my mind until now. I remember when the play was developing in the corner of the ice on my end and being able to keep track of everyone else on the ice seemed impossible when I was younger, but after time it got easier and easier and it seems like this pattern recognition of being able to quickly glance over and notice the patterns on the ice allowing me to gather info much quicker than looking over 3 or 4 times. It was a hugely important skill as a goaltender and watching this video just kind of made me chuckle about it.

    • @umi66
      @umi66 Před rokem +2

      I really like this comment, thanks for the anecdote

    • @Mattz554
      @Mattz554 Před rokem +1

      High quality content, your comment! And I'm the second saying this, woah!

    • @NONO-hz4vo
      @NONO-hz4vo Před rokem +12

      This is why sometimes it is more difficult to play against a bad player. They just aren't in the right spots they are supposed to be in. Of course once you learn they are trash it is easier but initially they can get some lucky points.

    • @mrbrazina3128
      @mrbrazina3128 Před rokem +11

      @@NONO-hz4vo do you think this could be why they call it "beginner's luck"

    • @tylerstaresinic2354
      @tylerstaresinic2354 Před rokem +2

      As an other goalie the big one that I can think of is reacting to shots. I used to be able to tell where the shot was going before the puck was actually released. And the time for me to react to a shot included the wind up time. And I hated it when it was a knucklepuck or they fanned on it because it totally threw me off. That’s why my advice to forwards is always to get a quick release because it removes my time to process/predict the shot.

  • @vitruvee
    @vitruvee Před měsícem

    Really appreciate all the efforts you put into each video.

  • @eykan_ow
    @eykan_ow Před rokem +301

    This is really important information to know when you are set out to become an expert at something. I have never seen this sort of information condensed like this before, and I believe this video will inspire people for decades to come.

    • @spimbles
      @spimbles Před rokem +5

      lol this video will inspire people for decades to come, huh

    • @ktk1144
      @ktk1144 Před rokem

      u sure will make good titles :D

    • @vivanecrosis
      @vivanecrosis Před rokem +3

      Totally agree, it inspired me already, and reminded me that this is what I have been doing with my art.
      Sometimes I feel really uncomfortable and frustrated, but then after watching this video, this is the deliberate practice part, being outside of your comfort zone.

    • @porterde08
      @porterde08 Před rokem +2

      This is indeed the tactic used for most life skills. Believe it or not. Hell, life itself.

    • @Korvmannen
      @Korvmannen Před rokem +1

      Well...! He's an expert at teaching through making youtube vids

  • @zyoface
    @zyoface Před rokem +154

    To steal from my high school teacher, "practice does not make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect." This also seems to be an apt checklist for composing a well performing machine learning agent (or at least are 4 very relevant circumstances to consider). Interesting as always, thank you!

    • @haroldmesina5623
      @haroldmesina5623 Před rokem

      "Vince Lombardi"

    • @mcmerry2846
      @mcmerry2846 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, imagine making 1000 repetitions and make them all bad.

    • @zyoface
      @zyoface Před rokem

      @esrever gnireenigne Have you never slowed an activity down, or broken it up into smaller pieces to ensure you're getting it right? I think there are many ways to practice perfectly without being able to perform perfectly. I also think that performing perfectly once is no reason to expect the same will be achieved the next time. For me the quote succinctly captures a lot of the insight Derrick shared in this video, suggesting you can't simply participate for a set time and expect excellence.

    • @diesertyp7822
      @diesertyp7822 Před rokem

      What you are describing is much more akin to deliberate practice than perfect practice.

  • @Chiater
    @Chiater Před 6 měsíci

    Very helpful. I find outside feedback is very important. Playing a game and winning or losing is feedback, sure, but it can be a very slow process to actually learn what you're doing wrong. For instance, I was playing an online FPS with some friends over the pandemic and I definitely improved but even when I was playing every day I never got great at the game... only passable. It's frustrating to not know what you need to do to improve

  • @kaijiechow275
    @kaijiechow275 Před 2 měsíci

    Can I just say that I'm such a huge fan of your videos, have learned so much from them :)
    Keep them up 🔥🔥🔥