Some WWII vets just didn’t understand why Vietnam vets felt so differently about it, but many understood what they were feeling. Especially Pacific Theater vets because of similarities. One man who served in the Pacific said he understood their PTSD because he “fought the same battle every night for 60 years.”
It's ironic because some Vietnam veterans were the kids of world war II veterans. I met a Vietnam vet who wanted to be a war hero just like his father. His father didn't consider him a loser
@@jackcarraway4707 America had a lot more help in WW2, and with Vietnam, it was a bit more complicated, since China had helped in some ways, too. If America used everything they got, they would have won in Vietnam, but the cost wasn't worth it. Wasn't worth it to use nukes either. And guerilla warfare, when done well, can do major damage to more powerful empires.
@meztizo_americano86 Thats really funny some of em think that way, so much people died in that war its insane only fea folk got punished for it. Sure for em ww2 had its "glory" and feeling good taking down big enemies and gained maybe fame but wasn't truly worth it in the long run. War crimes on all sides is absurd and depressing to learn (can't avoid war crimes in truth real talk, really are no good guys) in ww2. Really despise that war honestly
This, but imagine if you got the veterans from the Gulf War mixed in too. One generation fought against Nazis, another that fought against Commies, and then another who fought against Iraqis.
Except they weren't fighting against commies. Most of the nva and Vietcong weren't communists they were nationalists and they neither knew nor cared what communism was and they just wanted to be independent.
On the subject of war and veterans, can do a compilation clip involving Hank and the gang trying to flush Cotton’s ashes at the veterans bar, including the argument that Bill starts about the last great war?
I don't know the exact science behind it, but I imagine World War II veterans had an easier time with their PTSD because they were fully supported by all of the people in their country to go and fight another organized military while Vietnam vets had half the country hating their guts for getting drafted into a war where the enemy could be anybody they run into.
The USAs direct involvement in WW2 was also pretty short. All the Action the Europe-sent GIs saw was a short Trip over the Britisch channel, running over what was left of the German defense. The backbone of the Wehrmacht was already broken by the time you got involved.bOne could say, they didn't really "fight a war" at all. Just like WW1.
@@stefanfun The turning point of WW2 was in 1943 after Stalingrad, Kursk, and the fall of Sicily. Pretending that the Americans did little is an ignorant statement that ignores the Western, North African, and Pacific Fronts.
@@Reagan1984 sorry for my oversimplification. But I still think the WW2 GIs never stayed in one place long enough to get to know the really ugly sides of war. The things that start to happen when a war goes on for a long time. They we're in the lucky Position of being the glorious conquerors everywhere they went.
Another request; can you post a compilation clip of Hank’s desire to be a Trucker, only to be rejected and then accepted. And could you include the full trucker song at the end?
We Only drooped the Atom Bobs cause we Didn't want to lose more American soldiers on another D-Day in to Japan, which statistically would have been more lives lost, then the two atom bombs.
@@anzumazaki7798 "America did the right thing. You know the Japanese attitude at that time, Can you imagine what it would be to invade Japan? It would have been terrible. Japanese people know that more than the Americans will ever know." -Mitsuo Fuchida Also, prolonged war = Hokkaido taken by USSR.
Fun fact the Americans won more major battles in that war than they did in ww2. They didn't lose a single major battle. Prior to water gate, the north vietnamese believed they were losing and were even in the process of surrendering. However, after Water Gate political support died for the war and the U.S. withdrew. Not saying that means the war was just or that sustained occupation would work out b/c in all honesty it probably wouldn't. Just interesting to note that Nam vets by all marks were way more effective on the battle field than the ww2 vets
(Japan laughs at you) The lazy Soviets did hardly anything in Asia. The Euros and Aussies were liabilities. USA did the heavy lifting against Japan. Soviets were losing badly in Europe until 1942 when the Germans had to fight on 2 fronts after the arrival of the Yankees.
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa I'm sure you are well aware of this, but I find it interesting that Japan actually defeated the U.S. in several battles. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe they did not lose a major war until WW2. They were way more effective against the U.S. than the North Vietnamese. Were it not for resource and supply issues, the U.S. might not have prevailed against Japan
Only if you're stupid. Nothing based about the Communists. They are totalitarian losers. Which is why Eastern Europe realized what a Totalitarian disaster communism was and abandoned it. Vietnam is still 3rd world compared to glorious capitalist Japan
One thing I want literally point out about this episode with the Vietnam veterans. That they somehow get together with those that serve in the Viet Cong. My response when I first heard that was wait a second what are these guys doing in the United States they won the war? But then I thought about it and realized, even though they technically won the war economically, they’re not doing so great. Vietnam is still a communist economic failure. Also, the Cold War was won by capitalism in the end. Communism economically doesn’t work. So in the end, despite winning the war, they probably realized didn’t want to admit it that Vietnam is not getting any better. I’m not trying to put Vietnam down, but there’s still poor. Another thing that gets thrown out of the episode as the Korean War veterans. They actually share the same decade generation with the World War II veterans. Another thing I want to point out to is both the Korean War and Vietnam war both of them and this is where bureaucracy goes into place. They were literally not supposed to be called wars. Because our involvement in both those countries they were referred as police actions and oh yeah, to make it even more insane Is these hypocritical bureaucracy jerks go out of their way to literally say oh they’re not real wars because Congress didn’t really vote on going to war.
Your comment exudes ignorance. Dropping more ordinances on Vietnam than all of WW2 combined, used chemical weapons to destroy lands then turn around and ask why aren't their country as developed as us. Even your information is wrong as Vietnam currently ranks 35 on the world's economy with a 430 billion USD economy. Trying to say "Vietnam is not getting any better" or that it's an "economic failure" is an absolute lie and shows that you are just talking out of your ass.
@@yukipaw1702Look all I’m going to say is no one won the damn war in reality. It was one that started because of stupid reasons and one that only lead to a lot of death.
If Vietnam vets had not fragged their brains on LSD and other hardcore drugs, they wouldn't have such intense PTSD. I'm with the WW2 vets. Every Vietnam vet I ever talk to wanted to cry.
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc I'm a veteran. My father was a veteran of Vietnam. My grandfather and two uncles were veterans of WW2. I lived this scene in late 80s and early 90s but thanks for calling me a parrot. By the way, you are a clown.
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc I am a veteran, my father was veteran of Vietnam, and my grandfather and two uncles were veterans of WW2. This scene is literally how Vietnam vets and WW2 vets treated each other in the 80s and early 90s. By the way, thanks for calling me a parrot. I think you are a clown and a fool.
Cotton's attitude towards Vietnam vets was common among WW2 vets.
Some WWII vets just didn’t understand why Vietnam vets felt so differently about it, but many understood what they were feeling. Especially Pacific Theater vets because of similarities. One man who served in the Pacific said he understood their PTSD because he “fought the same battle every night for 60 years.”
It's ironic because some Vietnam veterans were the kids of world war II veterans. I met a Vietnam vet who wanted to be a war hero just like his father. His father didn't consider him a loser
@@meztizo_americano86 To some WW2 vets they are the heroes that defeated two powerful empires. Vietnam vets couldn't beat a bunch of rice farmers.
@@jackcarraway4707 America had a lot more help in WW2, and with Vietnam, it was a bit more complicated, since China had helped in some ways, too. If America used everything they got, they would have won in Vietnam, but the cost wasn't worth it. Wasn't worth it to use nukes either. And guerilla warfare, when done well, can do major damage to more powerful empires.
@meztizo_americano86 Thats really funny some of em think that way, so much people died in that war its insane only fea folk got punished for it. Sure for em ww2 had its "glory" and feeling good taking down big enemies and gained maybe fame but wasn't truly worth it in the long run. War crimes on all sides is absurd and depressing to learn (can't avoid war crimes in truth real talk, really are no good guys) in ww2. Really despise that war honestly
Mixing beer, trauma, and two generations of angry veterans in one picnic. Great idea, Hank!
To be fair, it was a great idea of you excluded Cotton.
This, but imagine if you got the veterans from the Gulf War mixed in too. One generation fought against Nazis, another that fought against Commies, and then another who fought against Iraqis.
The Vietnam vets didn't really give the gulf war vets any praise.
Except they weren't fighting against commies. Most of the nva and Vietcong weren't communists they were nationalists and they neither knew nor cared what communism was and they just wanted to be independent.
Correction Germans
Notice how this was the only time Hank didn't just use the Hank Stare until the person standed down
This is basically the plot of Rambo 1 except the Sheriff was a Korean war vet
You gotta remember those vietnam boys didnt get to spend three weeks on a ship talking about this. They got an 18 hour flight home
The pacific theater vets could sympathize more with the Vietnam vete more it was the euro theater and north Africa theatre vets that didn't get it
3:00 the fuckin pause before he does it again is so goddamn great. Plus the noise he makes lmao
3:15 The way Topsy groans “DYING!” XD
Cotton was too damn savage💯😂
3:38
"Tôi bán phụ kiện propan và propan, tôi nói cho bạn biết."
I think it's so damned hilarious that all of Cotton's "friends" just stayed sitting there watching as an angry mob chased him into the forest.
@@xLoLRaven Cotton had everything under control. He killed fiddy men so those Vietnam vets didn't stand a chance anyway.
Cotton Hill is A World War Hero
*men hugging*
“That is.. a little creepy.”
Yet the same guys see other men grab other men ass and genitals in Football and call it manly
I feel like an asshole laughing 😂
On the subject of war and veterans, can do a compilation clip involving Hank and the gang trying to flush Cotton’s ashes at the veterans bar, including the argument that Bill starts about the last great war?
Here ya go: czcams.com/video/E0WvU3UBzWI/video.html
The 77th divison??!?!! COTTON was a "OLD BASTARD" bad ass who fought along side marines as well
I don't know the exact science behind it, but I imagine World War II veterans had an easier time with their PTSD because they were fully supported by all of the people in their country to go and fight another organized military while Vietnam vets had half the country hating their guts for getting drafted into a war where the enemy could be anybody they run into.
The USAs direct involvement in WW2 was also pretty short. All the Action the Europe-sent GIs saw was a short Trip over the Britisch channel, running over what was left of the German defense. The backbone of the Wehrmacht was already broken by the time you got involved.bOne could say, they didn't really "fight a war" at all. Just like WW1.
@@stefanfun
The turning point of WW2 was in 1943 after Stalingrad, Kursk, and the fall of Sicily.
Pretending that the Americans did little is an ignorant statement that ignores the Western, North African, and Pacific Fronts.
@@Reagan1984 sorry for my oversimplification. But I still think the WW2 GIs never stayed in one place long enough to get to know the really ugly sides of war. The things that start to happen when a war goes on for a long time. They we're in the lucky Position of being the glorious conquerors everywhere they went.
@@stefanfunSo you're saying that you would want to take a dead soldiers place in Normandy? Since you think it's so easy
@@debeb5148 Smells like hay. I think someone is building a strawman.
Image if khan want with them
When you know that the f6f hellcat was not in the same pacific till 1943 2 years of nothing I guess for that one guy
Feel free to suggest any clips you would like us to post!
3:39
What episode is this?
Another request; can you post a compilation clip of Hank’s desire to be a Trucker, only to be rejected and then accepted. And could you include the full trucker song at the end?
Here ya go: czcams.com/video/mSnCS6yPeec/video.html
We'll post the ending a bit later!
Who is diane sawyer?
Hahahahaha so good
Thanks could you also upload the ending of this ep
Here ya go: czcams.com/video/h4vTJExu528/video.html
@@King-of-the-Hill thanks
Can you please upload the scene where Joseph kisses Minh?
You're in luck, you can find this on our old channel: czcams.com/video/dIm5PVhd-uc/video.html
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We Only drooped the Atom Bobs cause we Didn't want to lose more American soldiers on another D-Day in to Japan, which statistically would have been more lives lost, then the two atom bombs.
actually this was debunked, as explained in dropping the bomb: hiroshima and nagasaki czcams.com/video/RCRTgtpC-Go/video.html
A mass slaughter of civilians to save the lives of soldiers is sociopathic. It's the sort of thing you'd expect from the SS.
@@anzumazaki7798
"America did the right thing. You know the Japanese attitude at that time, Can you imagine what it would be to invade Japan? It would have been terrible. Japanese people know that more than the Americans will ever know."
-Mitsuo Fuchida
Also, prolonged war = Hokkaido taken by USSR.
Wow that video referenced with Flippy turns into Fliqpy
What
Cotton was a korean war veteran
Vietnam vets > WWII vets. Soviets and Europeans did the most of the brutal fighting
Without the u.s lend lease act the axis would’ve won
Fun fact the Americans won more major battles in that war than they did in ww2. They didn't lose a single major battle. Prior to water gate, the north vietnamese believed they were losing and were even in the process of surrendering. However, after Water Gate political support died for the war and the U.S. withdrew.
Not saying that means the war was just or that sustained occupation would work out b/c in all honesty it probably wouldn't. Just interesting to note that Nam vets by all marks were way more effective on the battle field than the ww2 vets
@@reeceaguilar8374 thanks for that fact👌👌
(Japan laughs at you)
The lazy Soviets did hardly anything in Asia.
The Euros and Aussies were liabilities.
USA did the heavy lifting against Japan.
Soviets were losing badly in Europe until 1942 when the Germans had to fight on 2 fronts after the arrival of the Yankees.
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa I'm sure you are well aware of this, but I find it interesting that Japan actually defeated the U.S. in several battles.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe they did not lose a major war until WW2.
They were way more effective against the U.S. than the North Vietnamese.
Were it not for resource and supply issues, the U.S. might not have prevailed against Japan
Based vietcong
Only if you're stupid.
Nothing based about the Communists. They are totalitarian losers. Which is why Eastern Europe realized what a Totalitarian disaster communism was and abandoned it. Vietnam is still 3rd world compared to glorious capitalist Japan
@@HoshizakiYoshimasa
Japan heavily relied on American aid
@@HoshizakiYoshimasathey're still buddies with Russia
One thing I want literally point out about this episode with the Vietnam veterans. That they somehow get together with those that serve in the Viet Cong. My response when I first heard that was wait a second what are these guys doing in the United States they won the war? But then I thought about it and realized, even though they technically won the war economically, they’re not doing so great. Vietnam is still a communist economic failure. Also, the Cold War was won by capitalism in the end. Communism economically doesn’t work. So in the end, despite winning the war, they probably realized didn’t want to admit it that Vietnam is not getting any better. I’m not trying to put Vietnam down, but there’s still poor. Another thing that gets thrown out of the episode as the Korean War veterans. They actually share the same decade generation with the World War II veterans. Another thing I want to point out to is both the Korean War and Vietnam war both of them and this is where bureaucracy goes into place. They were literally not supposed to be called wars. Because our involvement in both those countries they were referred as police actions and oh yeah, to make it even more insane Is these hypocritical bureaucracy jerks go out of their way to literally say oh they’re not real wars because Congress didn’t really vote on going to war.
That's a lot of copium you've consumed.
@@Evemeister12 cope is just cope, so yeah, cope.
Your comment exudes ignorance. Dropping more ordinances on Vietnam than all of WW2 combined, used chemical weapons to destroy lands then turn around and ask why aren't their country as developed as us. Even your information is wrong as Vietnam currently ranks 35 on the world's economy with a 430 billion USD economy. Trying to say "Vietnam is not getting any better" or that it's an "economic failure" is an absolute lie and shows that you are just talking out of your ass.
@@yukipaw1702Look all I’m going to say is no one won the damn war in reality. It was one that started because of stupid reasons and one that only lead to a lot of death.
We never would've won a war against people who wanted to be free from imperialist domination and had been struggling for more than 30 years.
If Vietnam vets had not fragged their brains on LSD and other hardcore drugs, they wouldn't have such intense PTSD. I'm with the WW2 vets. Every Vietnam vet I ever talk to wanted to cry.
You've never spoken to and Vietnam veterans and you just parrot what you hear.
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc I'm a veteran. My father was a veteran of Vietnam. My grandfather and two uncles were veterans of WW2. I lived this scene in late 80s and early 90s but thanks for calling me a parrot. By the way, you are a clown.
@@Thunderchild-gz4gc I am a veteran, my father was veteran of Vietnam, and my grandfather and two uncles were veterans of WW2. This scene is literally how Vietnam vets and WW2 vets treated each other in the 80s and early 90s. By the way, thanks for calling me a parrot. I think you are a clown and a fool.
@@Thunderchild-gz4gcI am a veteran. My father was a Vietnam vet.
Damn he called them “losers”😮
Just like Germans
God I love cotton hill