LED Panels vs Single Source COB Lights for Small Studios

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  • čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
  • Comparing single source COB lights like the Aputure 120d II to LED panels like the 672W or Tri-8 for light quality, value, & size impact on a small studio.
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Komentáře • 239

  • @dslrvideoshooter
    @dslrvideoshooter Před 5 lety +95

    Heck yes!!!! I feel so special 🥰

  • @ericcecil6817
    @ericcecil6817 Před 5 lety +51

    Pretty negligible difference for much more cost. Some of my favorite work uses the cheapest light set ups, even a friggin' desk lamp at times. It goes to show that understanding light is so much more important than expensive lighting equipment. Thanks for another great video man.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +4

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts and for the kind words, Eric! Appreciate it.

    • @ericcecil6817
      @ericcecil6817 Před 5 lety

      @@geraldundone I'm also curious if simply using a bigger umbrella would yield equal or even better results than the more expensive set up...

  • @curtisjudd
    @curtisjudd Před 5 lety +33

    Nice work G. The biggest difference I see is between the umbrella - plenty of spill on the background - versus the light dome with grid where you aren’t spilling nearly as much on the background. The reason one would probably want to choose the 120dII and light dome would be for narrative work where you want to create more dramatic lighting designs where you can light in layers very carefully - where spill creates problems.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +6

      Thanks, Curtis! Appreciate you chiming in here. And yeah, agreed, the difference the grid makes is huge.

    • @Design475
      @Design475 Před 5 lety +1

      The master gives his input!

  • @EposVox
    @EposVox Před 5 lety +23

    120d definitely looked way better, but crazy how much the green tint shows on you rosy boi.
    Light Dome Mini definitely a good choice for small space. TBH I switched to the Light Dome (full) mk 1 and have regretted it, as there's too many issues and no grid. Just finally got my Light Dome V2 in after 2 months of backorder, but maaan the 1st was a mistake.
    BUT I use that when I have a lot of space. With my desk 100% up against a wall, the c120d is literally impossible to use (can't even fit an umbrella) so I just finally got a Tri-8 for my main desk setup and am LOVING it.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +4

      I was hoping you'd chime in here since I know we've had some of the same struggles and used the same lights. Thanks for sharing!

    • @Hexspa
      @Hexspa Před 3 lety +1

      I see more green with the 120d. Green cancels red so red faces like his and mine should do better with that cast. I think you're saying the 120d has more green and I agree. Too much here when compared to the other source.

  • @LachiePatois_awesome
    @LachiePatois_awesome Před 5 lety +41

    Hey Gerald, would love to see a comparison between the 120D and the Godox SL60W

    • @gmolina
      @gmolina Před 5 lety +11

      This would be a great comparison since the Godox is massively under the price of the 120D and way more versatile when you use the battery option and you can even get a battery to AC adapter for long shoots.
      I've seen some reviews around, but they're never up to the quality that Gerald has been spoiling us with.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +15

      Sounds like a good idea. Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @JakeGuptill
      @JakeGuptill Před 5 lety +6

      I’ve got the SL60W with the P90L softbox with grid (sold separately) and an Impact heavy-duty stand.. Can Get all 4 at B&H for $297.95. Works great!

    • @mribi
      @mribi Před 5 lety

      I’d love this too!

    • @OmgItsAlexOfficial
      @OmgItsAlexOfficial Před 5 lety +1

      It's a great light. Get it. Test it for flickering and if the fan is too loud swap it with a noctua fan. Also, godox ez lock 38" parabolic is only 85 bucks

  • @franktothemax
    @franktothemax Před 3 lety

    ey Gerald, I can't explain how much your videos have helped/taught me in the last few months man. I genuinely appreciate all of the work that you put into these comparisons/reviews/informative deep dives. You do it right, and I'm stoked that you exist and that you go out of your way to make these videos. I appreciate you my man.

  • @jettlifeproductions
    @jettlifeproductions Před 5 lety +12

    I really do not want to admit that the 120d looks better. I'm a minimalists who tries to avoid unnecessarily expensive equipment. But that 120d is actually significantly better....and this is through the low quality of a CZcams upload.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +2

      Yeah, I had that exact same thought process as I was testing. It's noticeably better despite my wallet hating the notion.

    • @romari2706
      @romari2706 Před 5 lety +4

      I think it looks better because it is 1) mounted higher creating a more classic Rembrandt look rather than side lighting, 2) it is CLOSER to the talent creating a much larger light source - which is softer. If the LED light was mounted similarly higher and used a LARGER umbrella, it may also look the same but would be much easier to use on the desk.

  • @heyyitsandy
    @heyyitsandy Před 5 lety +1

    The Tri-8C really did a great job for your particular location, if it weren't for the spill it'd be a super-close match. Then again, the 120dII is the reigning champion for a reason!

  • @EvergreenFilmsAZ
    @EvergreenFilmsAZ Před 5 lety +1

    I think the best soft light to use in a tight space is the FalconEyes SO-68TD. I use it for interviews because it is incredibly fast to set up and can be plugged in or use V-lock or Sony NP-F960 batteries. I also own a 120D with a light dome (which I love) but it does require a large space and c-stand to position correctly in most situations. Also for a tight space I love the Wescott LED flex mat. Paper thin yet beautiful light. But the 120d is the most versatile and modifiable light so I feel that it is the best value even though it was more expensive.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Thanks for sharing your experience, Tina! I also like the Falcon Eyes, but I don't have the big model, so it's not as effective. I'd love to try the 68 version.

  • @DennisSchmitz
    @DennisSchmitz Před 5 lety +1

    The 120d with grid looks fantastic.

  • @WilliamJohnston
    @WilliamJohnston Před 3 lety +1

    Definitely prefer the deeper shadows and more directivity from the light dome, and the bigger catchlight in the eye us dope! But practicality definitely a factor in permanent home studio setups.

  • @artmaltman
    @artmaltman Před 5 lety +14

    120d looks way better. Got me intrigued to use it for headshots. Do you think it will fill a 3' x 1' softbox uniformly?

  • @zaiddagamseh
    @zaiddagamseh Před 4 lety +1

    2:23 the montage nobody ever expected haha

  • @Schmavie
    @Schmavie Před 5 lety +20

    The light panel seemed to have more natural skin tones. The dome seemed a bit overpowering.

    • @150877z
      @150877z Před 5 lety +2

      yes dome is overpowering but for me dome have more natural skin tone, light panel have a magenta tone. for smaler place is light panel and umbrella ok.

  • @iviaverick52
    @iviaverick52 Před 5 lety +5

    the two lighting setups look almost identical

  • @Stealther
    @Stealther Před 5 lety +5

    Not a lot of difference in this use case, but the 120d is more versatile with its Bowens mount. The Tri-8 looked to have more of a magenta cast.

    • @romari2706
      @romari2706 Před 5 lety

      But for the singular purpose of lighting a desk based video, they work great. No need for versatility if you are going to mount them in the same location forever.

  • @sullinsshoots
    @sullinsshoots Před 5 lety +3

    The bell sounds and i come running for another well detailed and thought out tech geek video on a great product. YAY!
    Can we celebrate with a good old fashioned opening: WHAT IS HAPPENING *SOUND EFFECT* EVERYBODY I'm Gerald Undone......

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      Ha. Thanks, Walt! I appreciate your encouragement and kind words. Cheers!

  • @ZacharyWillFilms
    @ZacharyWillFilms Před rokem

    I believe that the beam angle of panels give them a better lux/watt since it's directed at the diffusion.

  • @danalarson9533
    @danalarson9533 Před 5 lety

    This is a great assessment of these lights. Sometimes I wish I had the 120d, but I travel a lot and find that panels work better for me for all the reasons you mention.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Makes sense. Thanks for sharing and for the kind words, Dan!

  • @AlexMinor
    @AlexMinor Před 5 lety +2

    I like the look of the 120D/lightdome a bit better. It also provided a much better catch light in your eyes. The one weakness of this video is you neglected to address the fact that their are cheaper alternatives to the 120D and lightdome available which can produce a very similar end result and cost less than either option you presented here. I still like this video, tho. And I wish I had a Tri8 even though I tend to rarely use LED panels these days.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +2

      I agree that the catch light was more pleasing on the 120d II. Regarding the cheaper options, it's not that I neglected them, but rather the thesis of the video though was to tackle the comment that if you're going to buy a $500 panel, you might as well buy the 120d. So, I wanted to address that directly.

  • @techsavvydaddy5616
    @techsavvydaddy5616 Před 5 lety +1

    120D much better!!! thanks for the comparison. This was just what I needed to see. 120D here I come!

  • @darrenpang1318
    @darrenpang1318 Před 5 lety +1

    Hi Gerald, would just like to add. There are way cheaper alternative out there to get to the point of 120D setup. For example:
    1) Godox SL-60W + Selens 90cm parabolic + C-stand = approx USD 360. For more power you may upgrade to SL-100W / SL-150W.
    It's like profoto A1 (USD800) vs. Godox V1 (USD260) Honestly, there are alot cheaper light source that's similar to the 120D

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing, Darren! Appreciate it.

    • @Diminish12
      @Diminish12 Před 5 lety

      I agree with this for studio only.. the Godox SL60 is wired light.. but the 120d has the v mount adapter as I understand it. If u get the battery powered SL60 it cost around $350 I believe.. 120dii $745 but comes with very good light dome. SL60 does not, and it's not a V mount battery and the reviews for it are terrible.. I'd say u would spend a good $500 total on SL60 battery version to get it up to par with Aputure at that point I would honestly just save the extra $ and get the Aputure and be done with it.. but if it's for Studio only and u don't plan to do anything else. It would be the SL60 wired. I need a main light and I'm saving for the Aputure 120dii on a November Black Friday sale.. I want one great main Light I can shoot video and take photos with not just in a Studio but also out doors.

  • @deanpettitt121
    @deanpettitt121 Před 5 lety

    TBH I preferred the panel in this application.
    Another space saving idea that works really well is something I learned from Thomas Heaton's channel, and that's using a telescopic drywall/ceiling support from floor to ceiling and then add magic arms to it to hold lights/cameras/mics. They're an awesome solution for a small space 😊

  • @BadKarma714
    @BadKarma714 Před 5 lety +1

    DSLR Video shooter my Man first time watching this guy he's really good

  • @chainsov
    @chainsov Před 7 měsíci

    you could put an led panel inside an umbrella softbox. even less space needed, and you could use a grid if you like.

  • @TheSmeagol630
    @TheSmeagol630 Před 5 lety +3

    Sure...it's better, but it's kind of silly using a 120D with so many workarounds for this kind of thing when the panel/umbrella combo worked so well.

  • @Hexspa
    @Hexspa Před 3 lety

    Another thing to consider is the convex vs concave shape of the light modifier and how that affects sound. Personally, when I use soft boxes behind my speakers, I find it much harder to focus on sonic details. In contrast, a convex shape equally scatters sound instead of focusing it. That means it should minimize comb filtering. I haven’t tried using an umbrella instead but maybe I should.

  • @anakjantans4
    @anakjantans4 Před 5 lety +1

    Damn.. Your reviews never fail to deliver.. Next idea...
    Step up step down ring,
    Studio tour,
    Challenges!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Thanks for the kind words and suggestions! Cheers.

  • @AdamKuzniar
    @AdamKuzniar Před 5 lety

    Good comparison here! I totally agree in your case scenario the led panel is a better choice. However I think the single source lights are much more versatile - you can make them as soft as a panel, but you can also shape the light in a way thats impossible with the panel.

  • @HeythereDavehere
    @HeythereDavehere Před 5 lety

    Great to see these side by side. Was there any difference in the color grading between shots? Did you set custom WB between shots? The 120d seemed to be slightly more green on your skin tone where the tri-8c was more magenta. As far as softness and light quality, I was surprised to not see more difference! Definitely not worth 2x the price to me. Any thought of trying the falcon eyes so-68td in your setup? It’s more compact, works on standard light stand, variable color temp, and less expensive than either of these options. I’d be curious to see the light quality in your setup.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +2

      Hey! Same grade. Both custom WB. However, the Tri-8 runs more magenta, so they include a green filter to offset that. But the 120d II is more green right out of the box. I could have fixed it while editing, but wanted to show their differences in colour.
      I've got the SO-28TD and I like it, but obviously not big enough for a key. I'd be interested in trying the 68 as well. Good idea!

  • @saskelee
    @saskelee Před 5 lety +1

    always find your video helpful ad entertaining even if i need to share it to someone. u jus gave me an idea where to mount my cam for my talking head lol just above my desk. the 120 i like how the catch light fall in your eyes you can keep this set up with the grid if it desires you and suit your space. i love it

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks for the kind words and encouragement. I appreciate it.

    • @saskelee
      @saskelee Před 5 lety

      @@geraldundone hey anytime man

    • @saskelee
      @saskelee Před 5 lety

      @@geraldundone you're welcome

  • @ALJessica
    @ALJessica Před 2 lety

    With the tri 8-c you look much more reddish in your skintone. I actually prefer that warmer tone from the tri 8-c

  • @thedondeluxe6941
    @thedondeluxe6941 Před 5 lety

    The COB light looks nicer, but they're both good. There's a bunch of good options on the used market too. I just bought a couple of 1000w tungsten lights for really cheap, and now I can blow out my skin enough to hide my acne!

  • @iDealMedley
    @iDealMedley Před 4 lety

    Both looks pretty good. It's just depends on what you need it for. For a desk setup like yours, personally i would prefer a smaller light.

  • @SnapographyAP
    @SnapographyAP Před 5 lety +3

    It might be a good idea to add a uv light; or spend some time outside; fresh air, sunlight etc ;-)

  • @GeneWaddle
    @GeneWaddle Před 5 lety +2

    Couldn't you use the 120d with an umbrella?

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      I suppose. But you'd have to rig it up yourself because there's no socket for one on the 120d's yoke. And it might not fill up as nicely as you'd like.

    • @bthemedia
      @bthemedia Před 5 lety

      Gerald Undone yikes! I’m surprised there is no umbrella socket - I thought that was standard on every studio strobe! 🧐😕

  • @RickyTinez
    @RickyTinez Před 5 lety

    Awesome video, thanks for the info. Quick question. Would you be opposed to using a shoot-through umbrella on the 120d vs the lightdome? or would there be too much spill?

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      With the reflector on the 120d it would be usable, the main issue would be the hotspot. The dome has a baffle to reduce that, but you will have a hotspot for sure on an umbrella.

    • @baqcasanke
      @baqcasanke Před 3 lety

      Holy shit its ricky tinez! Lol i like his channel too

    • @casadelosperrosstudio200
      @casadelosperrosstudio200 Před 3 lety

      Perhaps with a diffuser cover on the reflector then the umbrella? I'll test that with my off-brand COB light if/when my kid gets off my lap.

  • @FrequencRegler
    @FrequencRegler Před 4 lety

    man i watched so many video´s of you, the last hours ( : soo good ! I really like them very much !
    keep them coming.
    have a nice weekend ! = )

  • @JustinWheeler_LA
    @JustinWheeler_LA Před 5 lety

    Try the Mini-Dome II... I have both and it works great for tighter spots... YES, you can go with cheaper Panel & Umbrella for a single set up, but if you are using other set ups (like location shots), 120D II Hella worth it.

  • @66Vogelsang
    @66Vogelsang Před 3 lety

    Thumbs up for the bloodtype joke! I wish I had someone near me, I could share it with. :D - BTW, I just moved from Godox SL60 and Tri8c to Godox ML60. Light, versatile, easy to mount with a ton of options, umbrellaholder ...

  • @TerriblyCinemaddict
    @TerriblyCinemaddict Před 5 lety

    3:07 The only differences I really see; Tri-8 cast a harder light or causes a harder shadow. It also seems to be pulling out the reds in your skin tone a little, but other than that, at a glance, I don't really see the difference. like you mentioned, the 120 def has more applications it can be used for and is more versatile, but for people wanting to make a home studio where the lights won't move much, just get the tri-8 and save the money.

  • @claytonmoore2091
    @claytonmoore2091 Před 5 lety

    This was great and a valuable comparison. I could not say a lot better per se, but If I was shooting portraits in a larger space, this would seem to be a good idea. For me though in smaller spaces and primarily video talking heads, I can't see the benefit of this over my Aputure panel. Now having said that, if I found I need the brightness and power of this in other locations then sure absolutely a good investment. Great job as usual.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Clayton! And for the kind words. Cheers.

  • @50450720
    @50450720 Před 3 lety

    Great review, but it's worth mentioning that the panels can be run on battery power, the 120d cant.
    A led panel can just be picked up and carried out into the garden easily for a location shoot. Try doing that with a cob light.

  • @anonymissed3611
    @anonymissed3611 Před 2 lety

    Watching, I think a smaller, inherently soft panel a tad closer to cam would get you a nicer wrap. No need to go big dome for this shot. Add a very minor amount of fill with a small soft light (or cam centered tube led) if necessary. I just think your initial setup is too sidelit.
    Sounds excellent! What's the Mic?

  • @christopherpackart
    @christopherpackart Před 5 lety

    Yeah it seems the led panel is better for the smaller spaces, but having the 120d would be a great light for shoots.

  • @benhizzle
    @benhizzle Před 5 lety +2

    The Aputure 120d II makes you look younger.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      Ooooh nice! Sign me up. I'll take ten! 😜🙏

  • @robinmordasiewicz
    @robinmordasiewicz Před 5 lety +1

    At first glance it looked like the led panel brought out a slight bit of red into your skin tones compared to the skin tones under the 120d

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Yeah, I agree. The Tri-8 runs a little magenta. There's a green filter in the kit to reduce that, but I might have overcompensated for the filter in WB. I think I prefer the out-of-the-box colours on the 120d II. More accurate to my eye.

  • @MisterMayhem17
    @MisterMayhem17 Před 5 lety +3

    I don't want you to open a can of worms but...
    Aputure 120dii vs Godox SL60W PLEASE! 😂

  • @riparianstudios
    @riparianstudios Před 5 lety

    I feel like the 120d II with the Light Dome is a _significantly_ softer source with much smoother fall-off. I'd say it's considerably better. But that said, the number of commenters in here who say they see no difference means that your average viewer probably won't notice at all. Buuuut... I feel like if I had the space and all I needed was a key light for camera subjects, I might actually go for the Godox + Light Dome over an Aputure Tri-8.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Fair points, Kit. I also think it's quite a bit nicer. Cheers!

  • @ShaneBethlehem
    @ShaneBethlehem Před 5 lety

    Super useful video, thanks! I have the 120d ii but always run into the issue of it being so big and heavy so I have been debating getting a panel one day.
    I have found 'Neewer PRO 9' Heavy Duty' lights stands on amazon can hold the weight of the 120d ii pretty easily, but a c-stand is always going to be better/reliable

  • @MichaelWarthStudios
    @MichaelWarthStudios Před 5 lety

    Great to see this comparison. I want to love panels but I can’t get past the light shaping limits and in some cases, power.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks, Michael! I hear that. The light shaping is the biggest issue for me as well. I have panels with barn doors and they don't actually do anything. 😜

  • @HairyNick
    @HairyNick Před 5 lety

    $1000 is a pretty tall order for most CZcamsrs. I have a small Aperture light that cost me around $90 AUD (I think that's close to Canadian Dollars) and yeah, it's a huge downgrade, but at %9 of the price the value is there. I certainly hope to be able to make these kinds of investments for my own work at some point. :)

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      That's fair. Totally makes sense. Although, sometimes I wonder if we shouldn't be spending more money on lighting and less on other gear considering how big of an impact it makes. But like anything, there are diminishing returns the higher you go. I was impressed by the improvement from the 120d II though.

  • @romari2706
    @romari2706 Před 5 lety

    The 120D light looks better because it is higher (a more standard Rembrant light) and is CLOSER causing the light to be more diffuse/soft. If you position the Tri-8 the same hight and distance, you will get the same look. The use of the umbrella is a great idea to soften the LED PANEL light. Some LED PANELS and LED Light boxes do come with grids. If you have little space and plan to keep the light fixed for one purpose, then the LED Panel is a great solution.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      The lights were pretty similar in angle, and the distance was the same. It has more to do with curvature and hotspots. The umbrella isn't evenly lit by the panel, it has a brighter section, which then rolls off down the curve of the umbrella. The light dome is even throughout most of the surface and that surface is flat. I think this plays a bigger factor. Because size of the source is paramount of softness, so the umbrella helps, but there's still a smaller, brighter spot. You can really see this in the catch light in my eye.

  • @rickvestuto
    @rickvestuto Před 5 lety +2

    ANOTHER EPIC VIDEO!
    I've never asked so please Say this when you can:
    (Gerald hums the theme song to his own youtube channel)
    hum, hum "Gerald Undone, hum, hum, hum He's Crazy........ OR IS HE?" (Gerald exclaims)
    "hmmmm" (Gerald ponders in thought for a while)
    love ya brother
    regards, Rick

  • @vladimirzavyalov
    @vladimirzavyalov Před 4 lety

    Hi, Gerald! Watching your videos one by one and keep wondering how much precious stuff you've already packed into your channel! 👍 Great job! But what a paradox of youtube! Some of your most useful videos, like this one, are far from being your most viewed ones 😄 Doesn't this keep you wondering as well sometimes?

  • @joehuds0n
    @joehuds0n Před 5 lety

    Been looking at the Aputure COB lights for a while with photo and video application in mind. Just wish they has a flash trigger function (like Rotolights do), so you don't have to have them on full all the time when using for photography, plus maybe get a little extra power with short flash bursts.. they have the bowens mount advantage so would be a killer feature in my book.

  • @eirjordan337
    @eirjordan337 Před 5 lety

    I actually did make a 120d comment on the other video - just to follow up, I ended up getting a 2nd 120d, mk1, used from Kijiji for a sweet deal for $600cad with fresnel and 2nd light dome so....not apples to apples pricing as it’s not a brand new retail Tri-8C but still...I think you use what you got and just keep an eye open for deals 👍

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      That is a pretty awesome deal! I would have snatched that up too.

    • @eirjordan337
      @eirjordan337 Před 5 lety

      @@geraldundone 😉👍

  • @cubul32
    @cubul32 Před 3 lety

    The softbox looks softer - I thought the look was more appealing. Centimeters? You're from Canada for sure.

  • @KyleAckerProductions
    @KyleAckerProductions Před 5 lety

    So I like the softness and eye light from the 120D better but the color of the Tri-8 is better.

  • @DerExperiminator
    @DerExperiminator Před 5 lety

    actually, i like the result with the 120d much more. There is less red in your skin, the skin color overall is better. And because you had it higher, and perhapps because it's bigger or sitting with a different angle, the shadows are not as harsh.

  • @viko1786
    @viko1786 Před 5 lety

    I refer the LED panel, because I'm more used to the color of your skin while you use it, uses less space and it has a better shadows, that create more pleasing look. All of the is my opinion, of course

  • @UcheAustine-ns8qw
    @UcheAustine-ns8qw Před 9 měsíci

    I prefer the umbrella

  • @pebmets
    @pebmets Před 5 lety +1

    Another great job. I do like the 120d ii where I could see better value with more flexibility, but on the side by side compare and you held a gun to my head, I kind of like the Tri-8c a little better. It may only be the slight difference in the angle you mentioned. To my eyes, (they are old), the Tri-8c looks just a tiny bit more natural or should I say the look I like, but not enough to make it a deal breaker. .I could definitely see the advantages of the 120d II and would not hesitate to go that route if the person who runs my finance department, (my wife), had no issues :-). I love the steady growth of your channel where I continue to see this community grow with quality comments and suggestions.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Phil! And thanks for the kind words. Cheers!

  • @TheToneWork
    @TheToneWork Před 5 lety

    Lightdome is a little softer, but I wouldn't upgrade to that if I were you. The Tri-8 works fine.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      One thing I did like though was the nicer catchlight in the eye. The 120d's is more pleasing to me.

    • @TheToneWork
      @TheToneWork Před 5 lety

      @@geraldundone Totally agree! I think it's a better light for talking head videos in general, but for your set-up, I would probably still go with a Tri-8.
      I've been trying to decide which of these two lights will be my next purchase. The Tri-8 is cheaper and being able to shift the color really have me leaning that way, but I also love having the control of a softbox with a grid. Eventually, I think I'll have a set of Tri-8s and a C-300.
      Thanks for the video!

  • @theshortlist
    @theshortlist Před 4 lety

    Falcon Eyes Sophiez 68TD looks like a good challenger for that application ?

  • @ErnieSesameStreet
    @ErnieSesameStreet Před 4 lety

    The white balance seem to be different at 3:08 Is it due to different light source

  • @CamsCampbell
    @CamsCampbell Před 5 lety

    This is so helpful, as always. It's really interesting to see how people set up their lighting in real-world situations. I'm using a 672W and AL-F7, both on your recommendation, but the 672w is a little far away from my seating position because I'm in a corner of a living room and the light stand in behind a sofa. Space is an issue and the 120D might not fit. I can't get a 60-inch umbrella to fit in that space so I'm using a 33-inch one. 60 inches is around 150cm, so you say the big diffuser is 1m x 1m - that *might* just work. I'm off to find the measuring tape!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      I was using a 33" umbrella too. I agree that it's interesting to learn about other people's setups. You've got me interested to see how your lighting develops.

  • @cyclingmaven
    @cyclingmaven Před 5 lety +1

    Great video bro.

  • @JayLippman
    @JayLippman Před 5 lety

    I record in a super small space. I actually need something that I can put on my desk. I've been using the AL-MX, which is great, but not quite bright enough to use without the overhead lights in the room. I need something else..

  • @AlessioMichelini
    @AlessioMichelini Před 5 lety

    I think the 120d seems to have a bit more contrast, and skintones looks a bit more on the yellow side than the magenta of the other light

    • @AlessioMichelini
      @AlessioMichelini Před 5 lety

      Another difference you can tell is the light falloff, as the umbrella has a curved shape, which also dictates the direction of light, while the other light has a flat surface with the light bouncing inside, which again give another different quality of light, that's probably why the latter has more (slight) contrast IMHO

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Alessio! 😃👍

  • @danielirvine7468
    @danielirvine7468 Před 5 lety

    Great vid man
    Very helpful

  • @stevenkralovec
    @stevenkralovec Před 5 lety

    I preferred the look of the 120d on your face.

  • @Zakna
    @Zakna Před 5 lety +1

    Paused Philip Defranco for you.. you stud :p

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      Ooooh. That's a big compliment. Thank you! 😃🙏

  • @casualking4548
    @casualking4548 Před 4 lety

    Definitely a nicer quality of light coming from the light dome

  • @danielesilvaggi
    @danielesilvaggi Před 5 lety

    Looks like you added 1 to 2 stops with the new one. Not bad but noticeable.

  • @elcasanelles5806
    @elcasanelles5806 Před 5 lety

    beautiful fall of one the 120

  • @Soupcan13
    @Soupcan13 Před 5 lety

    Man I wish I could leave my lights up ha ha that would save some serious setup time. Cool video. I could barely see a difrence between them in your comparison footage

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      It sure does! I specifically designed my layout around that so I could save time. It's worth it because it encourages me to make videos more often because I have less obstacles discouraging me. Cheers!

    • @Soupcan13
      @Soupcan13 Před 5 lety

      @@geraldundone ha! I do the same thing. The more little "reasons" and speed bumps that come up the less likely I am to film.

  • @victor.ivanov
    @victor.ivanov Před 4 lety

    Gerald, could you say what microphone stand are you using in this video? Thanks in advance! ❤️

  • @fotoworkshop_stuttgart

    120d looks better in the color department (aka your skin is more pleasing). Keep it!

  • @pedromiszewski
    @pedromiszewski Před 5 lety

    Any reason to choose the 672W over the 672S when shooting through an umbrella? Thanks!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Yes, the wider beam will fill the umbrella better with less of a hot spot. Nicer, more even light.

  • @Moses_Kanneh
    @Moses_Kanneh Před 5 lety

    Tri-8c & umbrella looks better; more natural. the 120d II & light dome is over doing it a bit skin tones are washed out looking(maybe turned down a little it would be fine).
    Edit: I did not watch whole video before commenting. lol Does the Tri-8c add a bit of magenta or red ( or is it just the angle of the light)? With the Tri-8c I'm seeing redder cheeks and neutral skin tones, but the Aputure 120d I'm seeing paler skin and a slight yellow(hair almost looks blonde). I do like the light of the Aputure 120d with grid.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      The Tri-8 does have a known magenta cast, yeah. It comes with a green filter in the kit to reduce it. By my eyes, the 120d II is more accurate out of the box. You can obviously tweak either to taste in post though.

    • @Moses_Kanneh
      @Moses_Kanneh Před 5 lety

      @@geraldundone Okay. I don't use lights yet but maybe something to take note of for the future. And apparently I like a magenta cast cause that's what stood out to me the most.(^_^) Idk
      Great videos by the way; so much info.

  • @joshmartin7685
    @joshmartin7685 Před 5 lety

    Thanks for covering these lights Gerald! Could you possibly do a video about budget lighting? Maybe sub $400 if possible for studio use?

    • @BakeLikeAPro
      @BakeLikeAPro Před 5 lety +1

      Hi Josh, read my comment I just made about the Godox. Hopefully Gerald will do a review on the one I purchased. Amazing light for those on a budge. $199.00 in Canada, Those are $139.xx I believe in the States.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Thanks, Josh! Appreciate the suggestion too. Cheers!

  • @BryanSchultzitis
    @BryanSchultzitis Před 5 lety +1

    Can you say "I'm Gerald Undone and today we're going to talk about color science" (I just rewatched that video. So. Good.)

  • @DavidKfilmmaker
    @DavidKfilmmaker Před 5 lety

    The light storm is their flagship panel. (Ls1 I think it’s called)

  • @cameronb4099
    @cameronb4099 Před 5 lety

    I think the panel looks better

  • @TheGeoDaddy
    @TheGeoDaddy Před 5 lety

    So I happened to trip upon the same lighting arrangement for my 3 point setup (which intend to use remotely in a theater space) namely 2 Intellytech L160s Kit for Side and Back and the Aputure D300 with that Big Dome for my Key Light. I figure anything else can be done with flags or practicals...
    The X factor with hill be the Background mostly painted sets which I intend to light with the theatre space’s tungstens and just Deal with the color temps... but I also bought a Green Screen Kit to play with...

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      If there's enough separation between the subject and background and if the tungstens don't contaminate the subject too much, the contrasting temperatures could actually add to the interest.

    • @TheGeoDaddy
      @TheGeoDaddy Před 5 lety

      That’s my thinking, I want to keep the whole thing in the “Theatrical” look... but I do want to have neutral bright light for the actors and (gorgeous) costumes, wigs, makeup and props. The backdrops should shout “Make Believe!” and ill use flags to keep the lighting designs separated. Still waiting for ProRes RAW for my Z6 and Ninja V because reshooting with the actors & crew will get expensive!!!

  • @declicked
    @declicked Před 3 lety

    What brand of C-stand do you use/recommend?

  • @bumsa3ed
    @bumsa3ed Před 5 lety +1

    your videos are awesome..

  • @TylerLeeKenyon
    @TylerLeeKenyon Před 5 lety

    I would love to hear your thoughts on the GVM RGB-150S!

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      Me too! It's hard to get one here. GVM said they'd send me one but never did. And it keeps disappearing from Amazon! It's peculiar.

    • @TylerLeeKenyon
      @TylerLeeKenyon Před 5 lety

      @@geraldundone Yeah I've noticed that too. Very strange. Hopefully they're planning to update it soon, as I've heard the build quality is lacking.

  • @Ramage7070
    @Ramage7070 Před 5 lety

    I like the look of the LED panel better

  • @darlingtonjonesimagery9247

    Fan noise no problem because using a shotgun mic but with an omni lav (which many people use) will hear the fan noise a lot more.

    • @rsmith02
      @rsmith02 Před 3 lety

      I don't think so. Shotguns often pick up noise directly behind them, too and the lav mic is closer to the mouth than the light. So I'd say it's just a quiet fan.

    • @darlingtonjonesimagery9247
      @darlingtonjonesimagery9247 Před 3 lety

      @@rsmith02 if you know how to use a shotgun it is not an issue. Shotguns pick up from the side. Once you know your polar pattern it is good. I use the shotgun a lot at about 4 feet away and get a significantly better sound than a lav on the collar. But the Godox sl150 is very very loud

  • @christiantolbert4141
    @christiantolbert4141 Před 3 lety

    Obviously, thnx

  • @zacharyschermerhorn8453

    I think the 120D looks slightly better. The shadow roll off is nicer

  • @danasuechilds
    @danasuechilds Před 3 lety

    No one puts Baby in a corner! Personally I liked the LED panel better...but now none of this matters anymore since you have moved. :)

  • @AGS-8785-D1R
    @AGS-8785-D1R Před 5 lety

    A couple of light stands that were new to me last year that are kind of the half-way point between photography light stands and c-stands:
    www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/33459-REG/Matthews_B387485_Medium_Duty_Maxi_Kit.html
    www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/99164-REG/Matthews_B387487_Light_Heavy_Black_Kit.html
    They're all metal (aluminum), no plastic parts whatsoever, with high weight capacities and think are perfect for the 120D + softbox combo. Much lighter and easier to transport than C-stands. The main thing though is to always have a leg directly underneath the softbox. So essentially, always point one of the 3 legs towards wherever the light is facing for the surest/sturdiest set up.

    • @AGS-8785-D1R
      @AGS-8785-D1R Před 5 lety

      Oh and a quick criticism of the Tri8's: they don't come with yokes, only light stand brackets which throws the center of gravity off from the light stand and also puts more stress on the light stand. So I wouldn't recommend them if your light stands are on the cheap side.

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      Yeah, Matthews makes a beast stand. Great recommendation.

  • @behnambagherzadeh6773
    @behnambagherzadeh6773 Před 5 lety

    Hi. I have a not related question! What video and pp profile setting you recommend for jewellery shot and food commercial on Sony a7riii ? Thank you so MUCH

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety +1

      I like Cine2 for most purposes. And HLG as well.
      This video might help: czcams.com/video/9E8doNzDymo/video.html

  • @Poodle_Ellie
    @Poodle_Ellie Před 5 lety

    Video idea: Every CZcamsr makes "How to make a CZcams video" once or twice but I don't think I've seen anyone does "How to store(organize) all the cumbersome gear after filming." Maybe God Gerald can get it undone!

  • @98JamesNixon
    @98JamesNixon Před 5 lety

    What do you use for noise reduction?

  • @kylelowe
    @kylelowe Před 5 lety

    Do you have a recommendation or link on the umbrella you use?

    • @geraldundone
      @geraldundone  Před 5 lety

      I was just using one of the cheap Amazon ones: amzn.to/2VGt1l3

  • @theportraitist4888
    @theportraitist4888 Před 3 lety

    I'm looking at 3:07 and my take-away is the opposite of your conclusions. I think the image created with the pane; and umbrella is markedly softer and more flattering. I'm at a loss to see how your conclusions were the opposite of this. Either way though, I have been shooting high end portraits in NY for 30 years and nobody but photographers would ever see this difference, or care. ;-)