In life there are a lot of sad endings but stories can keep our hopes up by showing us what a happy ending looks like .The best thing about a made up story is that it can create some joy and wise need happy stories when we lose hope. I know that Peter’s fate can change at the stroke of a pen.People have had long sentences shortened ,returned to society and gave much good to society after they were free again. It is only HOPE and a vision of better days that enables us to work to make our world better.
Well, according to the story, Edward said he was sentenced for a full 15 years, and I doubt war criminals could get parole. Peter wouldn’t see the rest of the gang for at least the next 15 years, if at all. Also, no offence, but you just gave away the ending.
Milk Plays Games and Stuff Well, Victor did imply that 30 days was the original maximum, but these are war crimes. So I imagine there’s different rules and such
I want Peter back on Sodor!!! The Germans kept some civilians in Hospital as bodyshields . Common practice in war .IT WASN’T PETER’S FAULT Peter is such a cute engine ..Set him free!!!
@@blazingswordsman5410 I don't elaborate... I'm just knowing that after he completes his sentence, he will be back to being the old Peter before the War and hopfully has left his past behind.
Damn, that's rough for poor Peter. Although I can understand why he wanted revenge for Lily and Colin's deaths, in honest hindsight and even if used as a last resort, violence can only go so far until it's taken a huge step too far. It had done so for Adam losing the trust of a good friend at the start of this season and now near the end, with the revelation of a few damning war crimes, Peter now has to deal with the repercussions of what he did during the last days of WW2. This is undeniably intense.......
@@Kanefan701 Even if it meant killing off innocence that know nothing or didn't want anything to do with war? I'd do the same thing Peter did but NOT when it involves killing any genuinely innocent lives in the process.
@@alfa1134 It does and I don't fully blame Adam for what he did before with drowning those P.O.W.s now. BUT, if any of them hadn't committed any crimes as Radek's brother had as a career conman and a thief, if there was one POW that felt any shred of remorse, what difference does it make? How would things turn out any differently if Adam still committed his crimes despite the heavy revelations made in Extension?
I mean... The scene after the verdict is just soul crushing... I mean... I even went as far to play “Steel Samurai Ballad” during that scene while I was watching... I used “Steel Samurai Ballad” as it is used in the bad ending for “Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Justice For All” and I say... it fits in perfectly if you play it as soon as the gavel slams.
He didn’t deserve it. Nazis were the most evil beings that ever existed. They wanted to exterminate everyone who wasn’t aryan. My great grandfather was gassed in auschwitz because he didn’t make hope before the police hour. Their deeds make war crimes against them (like the sinking of the MV Wilhelm Gustloff or the bombing of Dresden) the right thing to do. I know what I’m saying. I’m polish.
He probably will return, that is of course unless he cant run after 15 years without moving. Plus there is the possibility that rust might make him more inoperable in addition to the seizing of his joints. But, the answers most likely will come in season 4 or 5.
@@thebardofshale304 Ted is right, even if Peter's parts either rusted or broke away during those 15 years, the NWR will always prioritise their engines and what ever they need to help each other. If it means a full overhaul, then it will be done, but let's hope dieselisation doesn't catch up first
@@kupferbergbahn7952 I know about those, I was just considering about the worst case scenario. Though I get your point. Lets Just wait and see what happens.
Once again, Mr. Tanzig, Truely marvelous work. Its not at all suprising the whermacht were pushed to using a hospital as a battleground. While Adams actions were more blatant, I can only imagine when his turn will be, if ever. As for the trial, good work capturing its atmosphere. Prosecution badgering is such a dirty tactic, yet sadly, they read through anger like a book. In war, patience can wear thin very quickly, and with all that happened prior to his actions, its little suprise something finally snapped in him. Few of us can really hate him for it, but in any senario: killing non-combatants is inexcusable. 15 years. I surely hope hes allowed to work again after that. Once more, brilliant work. Truely stirring, and loved every moment. Also, dont worry too much about bringing it up often. Society as we know it today WAS, wether we like it or not, shaped by it and those who survived it. As for the last question: No. Its not wrong, what he was given. But, as one of your earlier stories said: Only a monster wouldnt regret his actions. And Peter is no monster.
More honestly for me it's kind of hard to decide, Adam shoving a coach into the ocean believing only Nazis were in the coach yet in comparison with Peter's case there were witnesses that survived such an atrocity .
I think Peter’s war crimes is worse because he killed civilians, knowingly putting them at stake and sacrificing their lives just to eliminate a squad of Nazis. What makes it worse is that he didn’t even eliminate every Nazi in the world, only a small squad. And who says that there were more Nazis he killed than civilians? There could have been more civilians than Nazis.
KingCry 32 that was literally what I was thinking him being the first of his kind an experiment engine like Thomas, Henry, Gordon, James,Percy,Toby,diesel, geffory... u get the idea
Victor! Just one thing. Peter should be cleared by another face engine. This one should be a Great Western Mixed Traffic Engine, who, whilst pulling a train of Tanks and a couple of AA Wagons mounting two twin 40mm and during an air attack, he shot down two JU88's and severely crippled a third, that crashed near Saltford between Bristol and Bath. The pilot had a MP38 on him and he shot at the GWR engine and his crew and the tank crews. The Engine in question, charged the pilot and ran down the pilot. And that engine was visiting Barrow - at this trial! And heard the trial. And wanted to intercede. Only later in 1990 would he tell this story. To Peter and his friends.
@@nossta5242 - Peter was given a sentence of 15 years! Which means he wouldn't be out of Railgate until 1963. This charge would be on him until then. In most probability that would be a charge that wouldn't be revoked until at least some 60 or 70 years later. I just gave Victor Tanzig an idea of a possible storyline that could lead to Peter being exonerated of the charge in his later life. Victor is yet to tell the story of the Sodor Island in the 1950's or onwards. A former Great Western Mixed Traffic Engine could tell this - in HIS own experience of WW2. And I set it in the year 1940 and just before the Sodor Railway Platoon was posted to North Africa. For instance, one of the Castle class engines could be brought in. Named Dawlish for instance! Of course, that puts it a good 5 years before the offense Peter committed. I put it as a suggestion. Jev, understand this. I know a huge amount about the Second World War! Having read much of this! And certainly - having heard of Schindler's List, that gentleman was later cleared of some of the more serious charges related to that! Peter should have had a defender. Edward made a serious mistake and saw something that he shouldn't have seen, no surprise that Edward wasn't thinking straight at the time, defending Peter was not on his mind. Victor! You've got a suggested possible storyline for the 1950's or onwards! It's up to you to do so! One of Duck's former old friend should do so!
Uh uh i, I'm speechless. It is such a fantastic episode. Just wow. It has such a solid storyline. Just a message to you Victor. I just want to say thank you for an amazing series. I can't wait for the next episode.
Let me be the first to say that Victor, this has to be by far the most intriguing episode of the series so far. This venture into Peter's character development is done so well! The moment when Joey reveals the war criminal to be Peter will be forever ingrained in my mind! You're an inspiration to us all!
Holy shit, I literally was shocked and silenced when Peter fired the bomb and was blowing up at the end, literally an unexpected episode (and it ends in the cheerful music as well)
I guess that will be the last time we'll see Peter in a while, and I take it when he gets back after servicing his time in rail gate, the other engines will never look at him the same way again. To another side note, who will look after his work now that he's gone for now.
The worst part is (and for anyone who hasn't seen the latest episode yet) that by the time he gets out, he'll never be the same again. Not only will he have missed the death of one of his colleagues and dearest friends, but no one will ever be able to look at him the same way again.
Peter...sweet boy...why? This is probably one of my favorite episodes so far. I really didn’t expect Peter to do something like that and the whole chain of events was really interesting. An interesting turn for my favorite character.
I do say it's wrong. if they're going to punish Peter for killing civilians, then they'd have to put the entirety of the Allied Air Forces on trial for the same: less than 20% of bombs dropped during the war landed within FIVE MILES of their targets, countless thousands died every night from Allied air raids. Need i bring up the American firebombing of Tokyo, which killed more people than the Atom bombing of Hiroshima? It was actually a very serious issue right before D-Day, when Allied commanders were worried about hostility from the French due to allied air attacks. and that's not even mentioning how many people the Nazis and Japanese and even the Italians killed. this trial was a farce, and frankly it should have been dismissed as such.
There is a name for the trial Peter had .I think it’s kangaroo court .Peter was framed .If Enola Gay had been there she would have said so too . It is a common practice in war to use civilians as bodyshields . The Germans were able to remove all civilians from the hospital before moving in, But they didn’t want to .IT WASN’T PETER’S FAULT
After seeing the video again, I realized that Peter fired the shot by choice and was not given an order to do so. In the army soldiers do as they were told .To fire on the hospital was not Peter’s decision to make .It was up to the commanders to decide how to take the hospital and they probably would have sent armed men who could have taken out soldiers one by one and avoided killing as many civilians.Peter took the law into his own hands and it was a foolish move.Had someone given Peter an order to fire on the hospital that person not Peter would have been held accountable .Peter realized his motives were wrong and he had regrets after.We can all learn from Peter’s mistake
@@alextucker5819 if that were to happen, the whole timeline would have been the real meaning of confusion and delay, just because we don't like the turn of events in a timeline, doesn't mean we have to change it, Especially if it's crucial to the timeline
And Peter gets....a truck to the head. EDIT: Peter dropped the second F-Bomb of the series! ANOTHER EDIT: This is what happens when you post a comment of a relevant meme early on in a video's comment section.
Jakers, what an episode. Okay, so admittedly I actually did thought the episode was a bit boring, just due to the whole trial being a bit too long of defence and plead, but then it stepped up a notch and that rant from Peter was more shocking to hear than the police engines taking him away. Wow, just wow. That was shocking, but did it made me feel bad for Peter? No, he knew he did something wrong back during the world war. For that, I accept the fact that Peter will be gone for the rest of the season and possibly Season 4, as I think Season 4 will be mainly focused on the aftermath of Dieselisation and the steam engines withdrawn from the mainland. I like the episode, I just felt it was boring in the middle, but the ending and seeing what Peter did, made it worth it. Great job, Victor.
ElsbridgeStation Productions I also think. Henry is smart enough to know that rain doesn't harm engines and the railwaymen are also smart enough not to brick up a perfectly-functioning engine in a tunnel.
Poor Peter. Also I’m concerned about the controversy that might grow since September 11 was the first day of the trial. Overall, the episode was a suspenseful masterpiece, showing how deep into character we can go (Mattel should take notes). Also, nice way to introduce Porter
Such drama and suspense for an episode that takes places in one location for the majority of the running time. That's the sign of a good drama, well done. And if I may, can I propose a possible future story for your series.
Peter had no idea what to say and he wasn’t given the best coaching .No one told him what not to say. The patients left in hospital were left there by Germans TO USE AS BODYSHIELDS.This is a common practice in war .
Interesting the defence didn't mention the number of Nazi soldiers killed, or the idea of 'collateral damage', the humanitarian factors of military necessity, distinction, and proportitonality, especially considering the prosecution even mentioned that it was a key point for control of that area. Obviously Peter's outburst would have voided this argument and that may be a accuracy level of depth too deep for a CZcams series but my question remains. What does everyone else think? Nonetheless, great video Vic, keep up the good work, got me on both the small and large plot twists (I don't watch the weekly sneak peak). looking forward to more, can't wait to see what other surprises you have in store for us. Cheers
I think there would be better arguments of the tactical ability of what Peter did, without destroying the Hospital, the American troops would've had to deal with a defensive hardpoint in or near the centre of a town with tanks and quite the few number of troops, while this is late in the war, a tank is a tank and troops are troops, you still need to kill or rout them no matter what you do beforehand or afterward. On top of this this maybe a slight knock at Vic myself but why wheren't the Americans mentioned at all, Peter fired an American gun under the command of an American Officer, albeit disobeyed the orders of one, still received those orders from one.
You are absolutely right. This was collateral damage which was unfortunately necessary to pivot the war away from the favour of the Nazis. That still would have been voided due to Peter's outburst like you pointed out.
“To this day, I can’t honestly say that his punishment was wrong. Can you?” A very bitter reference to “Come out, Henry”, and a fitting ending to this tragic episode.
*is so completely speechless about Peter's action that no words can describe how I am feeling* (Fantastic video, as always you had me at the edge of my seat, especially with this episode.)
Since a previous video clip a few weeks ago I’ve been looking forward to this episode with passion! This episode has had amazing ups and downs, advantages and disadvantages and I’ve loved every moment, just to come home after work and chill with some whisky and watch “The Stories Of Sodor” on a Friday Thank you Victor and keep up the great work!! 👍 😁
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Damn..this is probably the deepest episode so far (not counting any of the episodes from the Stories of War). But this is also one of the best episodes in the series! Keep up the good work!
Poor Peter, but the truth will set you free... though for him, he was confined to Railgate for 15years, at least he’s not getting scrapped. Looking forward to the next episode...
In my mind, executing a non-faceless vehicle involves a non-optional Final Firing, total gutting, and rebuilding to ensure another First Firing can’t happen. In essence, a non-faceless vehicle is killed and then rebuilt into a faceless vehicle.
Crikey! How intense! Like the reference to Sad Story of Henry at the end. Though I must ask: what about Adam? He willingly and wholeheartedly killed a coach of prisoners and thought nothing of it at the time. Will he face charges?
Wow! What an episode, I think once the short clips were released, this was the episode everyone was waiting for. Seeing what Peter did, my jaw dropped, I was in so much shock. But it does make sense because he is a very strong engine, he had to deal with Colin and Lily's deaths, the latter him witnessing. From the Stories of War episodes, he took a goods train back along with the POW coach that Adam pushed. That gun shot on the hospital was what kept him from being with the rest of the platoon the night before. Also you got to remember in the Combat episode, Edward strongly empathised to Peter "DO NOT FIRE unless I give the order!" Peter's actions that night were very rash and impatient. Having Mr Zorro back in for this episode was great too. It's a pity though that we didn't get to see what progress he made between this episode and when he stepped down as a result of cancer. The trial was on edge, heart wrenching, gob dropping and extremely difficult to watch. I would argue this is even darker than the Stories of War episodes and I love Dark themed episodes that you've done like Ghost and Spectre. The ending really reminded me of the end of Sad Story of Henry. You took a big gamble sending off Peter in this way because he is a fan favourite character in this story but boy that was a really well done exit for him if we ever see him again. And then we have Arthur returning next episode which will give even more flashbacks of the Ghost story from Season 1. Can't wait to see what it will be.
Since these stories play in a time long before I was born, I wouldn't take any offence by Peter. In fact I understand his position and his acting. Great Video btw.
Holy crap----holy crap-----just----wow! Wow! I’m speechless. I can’t spoil it for everyone, but damn it Victor that was a chilling story! This might be the first story I’ve seen where the trial sounded like it was all researched well and planned out to the T! Spot on!
I know a steam engine .UP844 Steam engines are more than machines .I have a book with lots of steam engine pictures in them.They are definitely human .It wasn’t just Wilburt Awdry’s imagination. Diesels are inanimate but most steam engines are half human .Some kinds weren’t Like cab forwards Garretts and the earliest models early1800’s . Victor Tanzig has done a stellar job portraying steam engines the way I think they would act . AND since I spent entire days with 844 in Denver I know what he is like . Would you believe I’m shaped like Sir Topham Hatt Except he is taller.
Even though Peter was mad and shot the hospital, is was unfortunately his fault for losing control of his anger. I will admit, if I were in his wheels I to would have a 50/50 moment before choosing to do Genocide or Pacify the Germans around the hospital for the people. More or less try not to be convinced to confess all of the events and have a breakdown at the Cort room, admitting that I can be guilty of that crime. In general, the lesson here is to have full control at all times and try not to be convinced. Thank you Victor and everyone else for reading this, and if you have any questions, opinions, or agreements than feel free to share. Continue the great Stories Of Sodor, and have a great day everyone.
26:49 .......... 😯 I was just totally stunned, it felt like an actual defendant's testimony in an actual court trial. That delivery was incredible Victor
Damn. 15 years? I thought 30 days was the maximum penalty a non-faceless vehicle could receive for its crimes... Then again, this is a World first war crime.
Wow didn’t think Peter would do that, and the way you made it so he looked like Peter was going to win the case and be cliche but he ended up losing. Great story Victor very well done and exciting
Many steam engines were scrapped against their will Just to get rid if them . They all had “black water”. I think in real life an engines consciousness can be shut down,same as turning off a circuit breaker..I think the “off “switch is probably reachable in the cab. Same shutdown which is used to put engine to sleep before big repairs. It is turned back on when repair done . When engines are put away they never wake up. .Thankfully engines put down but not scrapped can be repaired. I know 2 airplanes a B29 and a Lockheed constellation. That were given “black water “but were later restored and able to fly again. There is another B29 which was recently rebuilt in Wichita Union Pacific brought back the Challenger.in 1981 .He had been like an inaminate object for nearly 18 years.before waking up. The Big Boy woke up into a new world after almost 60 years. Must feel like Woody Allen’s character in the “Sleeper “movie in which someone wakes up into a hi tech world. The engine had never seen cell phones or computers or internet.
Actually Barbara, Victor himself said that the engines are fed a substance nicknamed ‘green water’, that temporarily puts them to sleep. This is also done with coaches and trucks, and to wake them, they simply fire them up ( or in the trucks, give them a push ). And James, I have always wanted to see the black water thing, it’s just such a matter that we somehow want to see.
Now that makes me wonder. Will Victor Tanzig do a video about non-faceless engines taken Black Water in there sleep by scrappers tourch holding men? That does sound dark but would make sence why Wilbert Awdre would add that in the books.
Thief has about the same run time but I have to say I like the long run time. I've been disappointed that the run time for this season's episodes have been rather short.
This is my favourite Stories of Sodor episode, it takes risks and its controversial seeing a major character admit to such a heinous crime out of pure hate for the target. Yet there is that awkward feeling of sympathy towards Peter, a conflict of such a scale would inevitably change people, and I dont mean for the better. What peter did was wrong, but its better that he let the anger out rather than live out the rest of his life telling a lie. This was also the day which I did my Drama written GCSE, it went awfully and this cheered me up to no end and I went on to finish my exams and pass 8 out of 9 of them, so cheers Victor
That silence after Peter's tirade was perfect. Everybody just knows that his guilty verdict is just unavoidable.
Peter: To the Germans, I bequeath a bomb to the head.
Me: PETER WHY!?!?
Agreed
Me to
Kyle Craig Are you agreeing with what he said or what Peter said?
Yea
Riqui Hess Um what?
“Oh... to hell with it. Fire in the hole!” LOL Peter was a savage.
i have yelled that so many times
@@warriorgaming1604 what do you mean?
@@coreycase9946 i have said that when I fired a gun at a guy as a warning shot
@@theoneandonlynumber1253 I guess so
Me: Bruh. You sick.
I won’t give the ending away, but it was a heartbreaking reminder that not every story has a happy ending.
In life there are a lot of sad endings but stories can keep our hopes up by showing us what a happy ending looks like .The best thing about a made up story is that it can create some joy and wise need happy stories when we lose hope. I know that Peter’s fate can change at the stroke of a pen.People have had long sentences shortened ,returned to society and gave much good to society after they were free again.
It is only HOPE and a vision of better days that enables us to work to make our world better.
Well, according to the story, Edward said he was sentenced for a full 15 years, and I doubt war criminals could get parole. Peter wouldn’t see the rest of the gang for at least the next 15 years, if at all.
Also, no offence, but you just gave away the ending.
Peter: f*** Germany and everyone who lives there
Me: holy you didn't have to do them like that
What the fuck did you do to name of the motherland dont you dare call that name i will sending you to gulag
@@JosephStalin-hv8en he got time of his sentence after
Confessing
Peter: Fire In The Hole!
Driver: WHAT?!
That reaction is priceless
Here’s the cruel irony in this: Peter’s number and the number of years he’s in railgate are the same. 15 for #15.
Tech Craft I thought the maximum sentence was 30 days, so I guess you must have meant 15 days.
Milk Plays Games and Stuff Well, Victor did imply that 30 days was the original maximum, but these are war crimes. So I imagine there’s different rules and such
Tech Craft I never saw any of the Stories of Wars so I was kinda confused.
Huh...cool
@@sotoroiguess69 ...war crimes are much worse than speeding or reckless endangerment
Ever since peter was introduced in this series he became my favourite character and seeing this happen to him made me cry, no joke.
I want Peter back on Sodor!!! The Germans kept some civilians in Hospital as bodyshields . Common practice in war .IT WASN’T PETER’S FAULT
Peter is such a cute engine ..Set him free!!!
Barbara Moran Peter 4 life!
Revenge 💀@@barbaramoran8690
Yikes! Poor Peter. Well, his punishment could've been worse. MUCH worse. At least he'll be able to return to Sodor once his sentence is served
@@carbonadox5730 Untill then, that's a story for another day.
@@silverstarstrider4393 Good one!
then again he'l be a changed engine when he gets out.
When he does come out, Peter will be once more a changed engine.
@@blazingswordsman5410 I don't elaborate... I'm just knowing that after he completes his sentence, he will be back to being the old Peter before the War and hopfully has left his past behind.
Who is here after watching Peter's death in Season 5?
Me 🙏🕊️
With the comments open again yeppers.
I wonder how the families affected by Peter’s actions took his death?
Damn, that's rough for poor Peter.
Although I can understand why he wanted revenge for Lily and Colin's deaths, in honest hindsight and even if used as a last resort, violence can only go so far until it's taken a huge step too far.
It had done so for Adam losing the trust of a good friend at the start of this season and now near the end, with the revelation of a few damning war crimes, Peter now has to deal with the repercussions of what he did during the last days of WW2.
This is undeniably intense.......
Quang Tran yeah, now Adam will be shaking a bit, however I don’t think even seen the last of Peter
Um, well, have you seen the subsequent episode following this one? It sort sheds some new light on Adam's actions...
in all honestly I don't blame peter for it. we'd do the same thing.
@@Kanefan701 Even if it meant killing off innocence that know nothing or didn't want anything to do with war? I'd do the same thing Peter did but NOT when it involves killing any genuinely innocent lives in the process.
@@alfa1134 It does and I don't fully blame Adam for what he did before with drowning those P.O.W.s now. BUT, if any of them hadn't committed any crimes as Radek's brother had as a career conman and a thief, if there was one POW that felt any shred of remorse, what difference does it make? How would things turn out any differently if Adam still committed his crimes despite the heavy revelations made in Extension?
You make these stories so freaking deep. Peter understood what he did was wrong, and he knew he deserved the punishment.
I
I mean... The scene after the verdict is just soul crushing... I mean... I even went as far to play “Steel Samurai Ballad” during that scene while I was watching... I used “Steel Samurai Ballad” as it is used in the bad ending for “Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney: Justice For All” and I say... it fits in perfectly if you play it as soon as the gavel slams.
Well it’s what I’d do
@@yoville73 I see you speak gamer
He didn’t deserve it. Nazis were the most evil beings that ever existed. They wanted to exterminate everyone who wasn’t aryan. My great grandfather was gassed in auschwitz because he didn’t make hope before the police hour. Their deeds make war crimes against them (like the sinking of the MV Wilhelm Gustloff or the bombing of Dresden) the right thing to do. I know what I’m saying. I’m polish.
This is sure to be a good story!
Highly organized and well thought out to connect the rest of the series with every one.
Peter is one of my favourite characters, please bring him back eventually... Very great episode as well, I always look forward to watching these!
He probably will return, that is of course unless he cant run after 15 years without moving. Plus there is the possibility that rust might make him more inoperable in addition to the seizing of his joints. But, the answers most likely will come in season 4 or 5.
@@thebardofshale304 I guess your unaware of what an overhaul or restoration is. I've actually seen engines move even after 15 years of being still...
@@thebardofshale304 Ted is right, even if Peter's parts either rusted or broke away during those 15 years, the NWR will always prioritise their engines and what ever they need to help each other. If it means a full overhaul, then it will be done, but let's hope dieselisation doesn't catch up first
@@kupferbergbahn7952 I know about those, I was just considering about the worst case scenario. Though I get your point. Lets Just wait and see what happens.
I'm glad that Peter did not get executed. He is quite interesting!
Once again, Mr. Tanzig, Truely marvelous work.
Its not at all suprising the whermacht were pushed to using a hospital as a battleground.
While Adams actions were more blatant, I can only imagine when his turn will be, if ever.
As for the trial, good work capturing its atmosphere.
Prosecution badgering is such a dirty tactic, yet sadly, they read through anger like a book.
In war, patience can wear thin very quickly, and with all that happened prior to his actions, its little suprise something finally snapped in him.
Few of us can really hate him for it, but in any senario: killing non-combatants is inexcusable.
15 years. I surely hope hes allowed to work again after that.
Once more, brilliant work. Truely stirring, and loved every moment.
Also, dont worry too much about bringing it up often. Society as we know it today WAS, wether we like it or not, shaped by it and those who survived it.
As for the last question: No. Its not wrong, what he was given. But, as one of your earlier stories said: Only a monster wouldnt regret his actions.
And Peter is no monster.
Exactly neither Peter nor Adam is a monster, they both regret their ACTIONS.
Adam has most likely been declared mentally-unfit to stand trial.
Adam has most likely been declared mentally-unfit to stand trial.
This is both sad and interesting, great job and high quality as always.
Who commited the worst war crime:
Adam.
Peter.
Why did you do it Peter!!!
More honestly for me it's kind of hard to decide, Adam shoving a coach into the ocean believing only Nazis were in the coach yet in comparison with Peter's case there were witnesses that survived such an atrocity .
With new evidence I can conclude that Peter was in fact worse.
I think Peter’s war crimes is worse because he killed civilians, knowingly putting them at stake and sacrificing their lives just to eliminate a squad of Nazis. What makes it worse is that he didn’t even eliminate every Nazi in the world, only a small squad. And who says that there were more Nazis he killed than civilians? There could have been more civilians than Nazis.
I can see Geoffrey staying on Sodor permanently now, somebody will need to cover Peter's trains.
Jon Houghton I don’t
I think it's gonna be Murdoch
KingCry 32 that was literally what I was thinking him being the first of his kind an experiment engine like Thomas, Henry, Gordon, James,Percy,Toby,diesel, geffory... u get the idea
@@kingcry3219 I may have to agree about Murdoch.
Murdoch has already appeared in the intro, so I won’t be surprised if he does appear
Holy shit this had to gave been one of the darkest episodes you ever made but damn was it good
Indeed
Victor! Just one thing. Peter should be cleared by another face engine. This one should be a Great Western Mixed Traffic Engine, who, whilst pulling a train of Tanks and a couple of AA Wagons mounting two twin 40mm and during an air attack, he shot down two JU88's and severely crippled a third, that crashed near Saltford between Bristol and Bath. The pilot had a MP38 on him and he shot at the GWR engine and his crew and the tank crews. The Engine in question, charged the pilot and ran down the pilot. And that engine was visiting Barrow - at this trial! And heard the trial. And wanted to intercede. Only later in 1990 would he tell this story. To Peter and his friends.
@@stephenfarthing485 you do realize what date this episode was made in right
@@nossta5242 - Peter was given a sentence of 15 years! Which means he wouldn't be out of Railgate until 1963. This charge would be on him until then. In most probability that would be a charge that wouldn't be revoked until at least some 60 or 70 years later. I just gave Victor Tanzig an idea of a possible storyline that could lead to Peter being exonerated of the charge in his later life. Victor is yet to tell the story of the Sodor Island in the 1950's or onwards. A former Great Western Mixed Traffic Engine could tell this - in HIS own experience of WW2. And I set it in the year 1940 and just before the Sodor Railway Platoon was posted to North Africa. For instance, one of the Castle class engines could be brought in. Named Dawlish for instance! Of course, that puts it a good 5 years before the offense Peter committed. I put it as a suggestion. Jev, understand this. I know a huge amount about the Second World War! Having read much of this! And certainly - having heard of Schindler's List, that gentleman was later cleared of some of the more serious charges related to that! Peter should have had a defender. Edward made a serious mistake and saw something that he shouldn't have seen, no surprise that Edward wasn't thinking straight at the time, defending Peter was not on his mind. Victor! You've got a suggested possible storyline for the 1950's or onwards! It's up to you to do so! One of Duck's former old friend should do so!
@@stephenfarthing485 I'm not reading all that
I still can’t believe that ( amazing video as always)
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Uh uh i, I'm speechless. It is such a fantastic episode. Just wow. It has such a solid storyline.
Just a message to you Victor.
I just want to say thank you for an amazing series. I can't wait for the next episode.
Let me be the first to say that Victor, this has to be by far the most intriguing episode of the series so far. This venture into Peter's character development is done so well! The moment when Joey reveals the war criminal to be Peter will be forever ingrained in my mind! You're an inspiration to us all!
Holy shit, I literally was shocked and silenced when Peter fired the bomb and was blowing up at the end, literally an unexpected episode (and it ends in the cheerful music as well)
Peter: *is depressed*
Music *do dot da do im happy*
Me: It's 2 AM I really need sl--
Victor Tanzig: I'm gonna stop you right there.
I guess that will be the last time we'll see Peter in a while, and I take it when he gets back after servicing his time in rail gate, the other engines will never look at him the same way again. To another side note, who will look after his work now that he's gone for now.
To answer your latter question, my money's on Geoffrey.
@@austinanthony2880 Maybe, but who knows and plus maybe in a few years Peter might get release for good behavior if possible.
@@austinanthony2880 It was Geoffrey. I was hoping he'd use this opportunity to bring Murdoch into the series.
@@sir.confident he did bring Murdoch in the series but in Season 4
@@aidanw5660 Lol! That comment was made last year.
The worst part is (and for anyone who hasn't seen the latest episode yet) that by the time he gets out, he'll never be the same again. Not only will he have missed the death of one of his colleagues and dearest friends, but no one will ever be able to look at him the same way again.
And the HE himself dies
Peter...sweet boy...why?
This is probably one of my favorite episodes so far. I really didn’t expect Peter to do something like that and the whole chain of events was really interesting. An interesting turn for my favorite character.
Joey:violation of civil lives
Adam:ok i am f... up
Joey:u are under arrest PETER
Everyone: WHAT
I do say it's wrong. if they're going to punish Peter for killing civilians, then they'd have to put the entirety of the Allied Air Forces on trial for the same: less than 20% of bombs dropped during the war landed within FIVE MILES of their targets, countless thousands died every night from Allied air raids. Need i bring up the American firebombing of Tokyo, which killed more people than the Atom bombing of Hiroshima?
It was actually a very serious issue right before D-Day, when Allied commanders were worried about hostility from the French due to allied air attacks.
and that's not even mentioning how many people the Nazis and Japanese and even the Italians killed.
this trial was a farce, and frankly it should have been dismissed as such.
There is a name for the trial Peter had .I think it’s kangaroo court .Peter was framed .If Enola Gay had been there she would have said so too .
It is a common practice in war to use civilians as bodyshields . The Germans were able to remove all civilians from the hospital before moving in,
But they didn’t want to .IT WASN’T PETER’S FAULT
Soundwave3591 that would’ve been something the Geneva Convention could bite off more than they could chew on.
After seeing the video again, I realized that Peter fired the shot by choice and was not given an order to do so. In the army soldiers do as they were told .To fire on the hospital was not Peter’s decision to make .It was up to the commanders to decide how to take the hospital and they probably would have sent armed men who could have taken out soldiers one by one and avoided killing as many civilians.Peter took the law into his own hands and it was a foolish move.Had someone given Peter an order to fire on the hospital that person not Peter would have been held accountable .Peter realized his motives were wrong and he had regrets after.We can all learn from Peter’s mistake
Barbara Moran As Peter was in Edward’s platoon, he shouldn’t have obeyed orders from anyone but Edward.
Well, this was one of the most heart-pounding stories ever, and it answers so many questions!
And I guess we won't be seeing Peter again for a while.
That's why Victor should edit the video and make it 1 year for Peter.
@@alextucker5819 if that were to happen, the whole timeline would have been the real meaning of confusion and delay, just because we don't like the turn of events in a timeline, doesn't mean we have to change it, Especially if it's crucial to the timeline
And Peter gets....a truck to the head.
EDIT: Peter dropped the second F-Bomb of the series!
ANOTHER EDIT: This is what happens when you post a comment of a relevant meme early on in a video's comment section.
eddfan999 no to the bogie ooooohhh
😂😂😂
I want to say something funny to add to this but your comment is too funny ti add to.
And one for Thomas and Percy
But still he deserves a fair trial
Jakers, what an episode. Okay, so admittedly I actually did thought the episode was a bit boring, just due to the whole trial being a bit too long of defence and plead, but then it stepped up a notch and that rant from Peter was more shocking to hear than the police engines taking him away. Wow, just wow. That was shocking, but did it made me feel bad for Peter? No, he knew he did something wrong back during the world war. For that, I accept the fact that Peter will be gone for the rest of the season and possibly Season 4, as I think Season 4 will be mainly focused on the aftermath of Dieselisation and the steam engines withdrawn from the mainland.
I like the episode, I just felt it was boring in the middle, but the ending and seeing what Peter did, made it worth it. Great job, Victor.
Did you say jakers ?
@Zack Thiel Yes, yes I did. Is that a problem?
@@MattyHarris no I remember watching jakers when I was a kid what a good show
@Zack Thiel Yeah, I watched it too. It was good.
Although I disagree with it being boring because I’m a sucker for courtroom dramas, I smiled with joy at your Jakers reference!
The ending reminded me very much of the ending to the UK version of the TVS adaptation of The Sad Story of Henry.
ElsbridgeStation Productions I also think. Henry is smart enough to know that rain doesn't harm engines and the railwaymen are also smart enough not to brick up a perfectly-functioning engine in a tunnel.
@@samanli-tw3id That is true, I was for referring to the dialogue about the punishment being deserved and then asking the audience if they agree.
Poor Peter. Also I’m concerned about the controversy that might grow since September 11 was the first day of the trial. Overall, the episode was a suspenseful masterpiece, showing how deep into character we can go (Mattel should take notes). Also, nice way to introduce Porter
On a side note, it’s ironic how Peter is spending fifteen years since his number is fifteen
@@SteamedPokehog yep
Such drama and suspense for an episode that takes places in one location for the majority of the running time. That's the sign of a good drama, well done. And if I may, can I propose a possible future story for your series.
Been waiting ages for this episode, brilliant work mate.
Ps: that woman's face is brilliant 18:00
When the police trains were there, I thought Adam was going to be tried, I never knew Peter would end up in Railgate for 15 years.
School out for the summer ! What better way to celebrate than to watch victor videos
Francis Sundararaj we (Britain) don’t break up for summer until July 19th 2019!
Scotsman Banter! Yes I know it’s so boring being in the U.K. sometimes
You break up for summer in MAY??????
@@terrier_productions Pressing F for respect.
I would’ve thought Adam would be charged with war crimes. This was a major twist Victor.
I was shocked as everyone else after I saw the Preview of Trial since I figured Adam was going with the coppers.
Wow. I thought Peter was gonna be spared time in jail. Guess not. Peters speech will be with me for a long time
Peter had no idea what to say and he wasn’t given the best coaching .No one told him what not to say.
The patients left in hospital were left there by Germans TO USE AS BODYSHIELDS.This is a common practice in war .
Interesting the defence didn't mention the number of Nazi soldiers killed, or the idea of 'collateral damage', the humanitarian factors of military necessity, distinction, and proportitonality, especially considering the prosecution even mentioned that it was a key point for control of that area.
Obviously Peter's outburst would have voided this argument and that may be a accuracy level of depth too deep for a CZcams series but my question remains.
What does everyone else think?
Nonetheless, great video Vic, keep up the good work, got me on both the small and large plot twists (I don't watch the weekly sneak peak). looking forward to more, can't wait to see what other surprises you have in store for us.
Cheers
I think there would be better arguments of the tactical ability of what Peter did, without destroying the Hospital, the American troops would've had to deal with a defensive hardpoint in or near the centre of a town with tanks and quite the few number of troops, while this is late in the war, a tank is a tank and troops are troops, you still need to kill or rout them no matter what you do beforehand or afterward. On top of this this maybe a slight knock at Vic myself but why wheren't the Americans mentioned at all, Peter fired an American gun under the command of an American Officer, albeit disobeyed the orders of one, still received those orders from one.
@@headmasterhastings4884 That's what you're supposed to do as a Prosecutor. It wasn't a "dirty tactic". That's how court works.
The defence didn't want to bring himself down to the level of the prosecution
This episode shows how much of a joke the UN is
You are absolutely right. This was collateral damage which was unfortunately necessary to pivot the war away from the favour of the Nazis. That still would have been voided due to Peter's outburst like you pointed out.
“To this day, I can’t honestly say that his punishment was wrong. Can you?”
A very bitter reference to “Come out, Henry”, and a fitting ending to this tragic episode.
*is so completely speechless about Peter's action that no words can describe how I am feeling*
(Fantastic video, as always you had me at the edge of my seat, especially with this episode.)
Since a previous video clip a few weeks ago I’ve been looking forward to this episode with passion!
This episode has had amazing ups and downs, advantages and disadvantages and I’ve loved every moment, just to come home after work and chill with some whisky and watch “The Stories Of Sodor” on a Friday
Thank you Victor and keep up the great work!! 👍 😁
What makes this episode even more sad, is that Peter never got to say goodbye to Adam.☹️
Damn... just, damn...
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Damn..this is probably the deepest episode so far (not counting any of the episodes from the Stories of War). But this is also one of the best episodes in the series! Keep up the good work!
Smashing episode Victor! I can't wait to see what happens next! :D
Most captivating episode of the whole series thus far, as far as I’m concerned. Peter’s outburst at the end was heartwrenching.
Poor Peter, but the truth will set you free... though for him, he was confined to Railgate for 15years, at least he’s not getting scrapped. Looking forward to the next episode...
In my mind, executing a non-faceless vehicle involves a non-optional Final Firing, total gutting, and rebuilding to ensure another First Firing can’t happen.
In essence, a non-faceless vehicle is killed and then rebuilt into a faceless vehicle.
I wish I could say that someone paid his bail in the next episode. But nope! He gets replaced.
@Fuck Everyone he is for real.
@@Trainlover1995a non faceless engine is the one that chooses the final firing
Not the law
man this has been a really intense and interesting episode, keep up the good work Victor ^^
the best thomas stories ive ever heard. Been watching all of these and they are so immersive and well told, best reason to be on youtube.
I was very hyped for this episode, and I do say the episode is much better than expected, as I would say, flawless as always!
This episode was awesome Victor! Great job! :D
14:07 talk about square head.
Jesus Christ these episodes are deep...
Great though, really enjoyed it!
Dude, you've left me speechless near the end, best episode ever for your series!
Whenever I get a notification for the next stories of sodor episode, I GET SOOOOO EXCITED!!!!!!!!!!!!! great episode! :D
*excited
@@cavespider6665 thank you, I always spell that wrong :)
Cavespider he spelt it right
Excellent story here, one of the most heart pounding I've seen thus far!
Also, is that Serena Leo Harper's OC in the back @ 28:45?!?! ...Holy crap!
Not gonna lie that part was really hard for me to watch
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@FranklinFan20 I know I already subscribed to her.
A long anticipated episode has finally arrived. In my opinion, the best episode yet
I was on the edge of my seat the entire time! Absolutely fantastic!
The Stories of Sodor: Ace Attorney
Anyone else reminded of the sad story of Henry by that final line.
Me
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A very good video Tanzig, nice twist and all giving backstories to characters we never assumed would have that deep of a past
Very good way to bring up the Stories of War with Peter, we all thought Adam would get it eventually but not Peter. Good work on this plot twist.
Today is my birthday and getting a long new episode of SOS filled me with great joy! Thank u and fantastic job
Happy birthday
@@zack6283 Thank u very much :)
@@RealCleve happy birthay 2 u
@@ConductorBrenner4768 Thanks! I appreciate it :)
This season is getting very interesting Victor, keep up the good work. Also I've watched season 1&2 and stories of war.
Me too.
Me as well
This series has taken a turn. : ( Altough, it is still amazing.
Keep up the good work Victor : )
Victor, Your videos still to this day make me feel such a sense of nostalgia. Fan made is all we seem to have left now :( and the old VHS’s
Crikey! How intense! Like the reference to Sad Story of Henry at the end.
Though I must ask: what about Adam? He willingly and wholeheartedly killed a coach of prisoners and thought nothing of it at the time. Will he face charges?
nah he admitted he was wrong and that he confessed to everyone else
they'll probably forgive him in the end, I hope.
And here I thought Peter was being charged for giving Adam the POW Coach.
He was charged for hitting the hospital
For a old train sim you really put so much effort and dedication i love you for not being lazy
Wow! What an episode, I think once the short clips were released, this was the episode everyone was waiting for. Seeing what Peter did, my jaw dropped, I was in so much shock.
But it does make sense because he is a very strong engine, he had to deal with Colin and Lily's deaths, the latter him witnessing. From the Stories of War episodes, he took a goods train back along with the POW coach that Adam pushed. That gun shot on the hospital was what kept him from being with the rest of the platoon the night before.
Also you got to remember in the Combat episode, Edward strongly empathised to Peter "DO NOT FIRE unless I give the order!" Peter's actions that night were very rash and impatient.
Having Mr Zorro back in for this episode was great too. It's a pity though that we didn't get to see what progress he made between this episode and when he stepped down as a result of cancer.
The trial was on edge, heart wrenching, gob dropping and extremely difficult to watch. I would argue this is even darker than the Stories of War episodes and I love Dark themed episodes that you've done like Ghost and Spectre. The ending really reminded me of the end of Sad Story of Henry.
You took a big gamble sending off Peter in this way because he is a fan favourite character in this story but boy that was a really well done exit for him if we ever see him again.
And then we have Arthur returning next episode which will give even more flashbacks of the Ghost story from Season 1. Can't wait to see what it will be.
Since these stories play in a time long before I was born, I wouldn't take any offence by Peter. In fact I understand his position and his acting. Great Video btw.
Same here.
Same here.
Peter swearing is so weird because these videos are censored but Peter gets a pass because of how dark and amazing this episode is.
Holy crap----holy crap-----just----wow! Wow! I’m speechless. I can’t spoil it for everyone, but damn it Victor that was a chilling story! This might be the first story I’ve seen where the trial sounded like it was all researched well and planned out to the T! Spot on!
Chills. Great episode. Making the engines more than machines is difficult tondo but you have mastered it, Victor. Well done, as always.
I know a steam engine .UP844 Steam engines are more than machines .I have a book with lots of steam engine pictures in them.They are definitely human .It wasn’t just Wilburt Awdry’s imagination. Diesels are inanimate but most steam engines are half human .Some kinds weren’t
Like cab forwards Garretts and the earliest models early1800’s . Victor Tanzig has done a stellar job portraying steam engines the way I think they would act . AND since I spent entire days with 844 in Denver I know what he is like . Would you believe I’m shaped like Sir Topham Hatt
Except he is taller.
Even though Peter was mad and shot the hospital, is was unfortunately his fault for losing control of his anger.
I will admit, if I were in his wheels I to would have a 50/50 moment before choosing to do Genocide or Pacify the Germans around the hospital for the people.
More or less try not to be convinced to confess all of the events and have a breakdown at the Cort room, admitting that I can be guilty of that crime.
In general, the lesson here is to have full control at all times and try not to be convinced.
Thank you Victor and everyone else for reading this, and if you have any questions, opinions, or agreements than feel free to share.
Continue the great Stories Of Sodor, and have a great day everyone.
26:49 .......... 😯 I was just totally stunned, it felt like an actual defendant's testimony in an actual court trial. That delivery was incredible Victor
Holy moly......that was intense. Brilliant work, Victor. Sad about the ending, though. Hope we get to see Peter again.
Damn. 15 years? I thought 30 days was the maximum penalty a non-faceless vehicle could receive for its crimes...
Then again, this is a World first war crime.
Colin Musselman it was a War Crime though. He killed 19 non-combatants in a war through use of military weaponry.
Yes victor said that but because of probably Geneva or Nuremberg that changed
LOVE. IT. Great work as usual, always love seeing your storys getting better and better each week. I'm now wondering what will happen to Adam.
they'll probably forgive him in the next 3 episodes or more
15 years... damn! I guess this was before the longest length was 30 days
Me too I think we need to ask Victor about this
@@penkagenova7073 I think he'll explain it in a future story
Do u really think theyd give a war criminal only 30 days
@@Michael-eg3rs u mean another day
Wow didn’t think Peter would do that, and the way you made it so he looked like Peter was going to win the case and be cliche but he ended up losing. Great story Victor very well done and exciting
That was the most dramatic episode ever made! Top marks, Victor!
Call me sadistic but, I want to see what happens when an engine takes the "black water" treatment.
Amazing vid as always Victor!
Many steam engines were scrapped against their will Just to get rid if them . They all had “black water”. I think in real life an engines consciousness can be shut down,same as turning off a circuit breaker..I think the “off “switch is probably reachable in the cab.
Same shutdown which is used to put engine to sleep before big repairs. It is turned back on when repair done . When engines are put away they never wake up. .Thankfully engines put down but not scrapped can be repaired. I know 2 airplanes a B29 and a Lockheed constellation. That were given “black water “but were later restored and able to fly again. There is another B29 which was recently rebuilt in Wichita
Union Pacific brought back the Challenger.in 1981 .He had been like an inaminate object for nearly 18 years.before waking up.
The Big Boy woke up into a new world after almost 60 years. Must feel like Woody Allen’s character in the “Sleeper “movie in which someone wakes up into a hi tech world. The engine had never seen cell phones or computers or internet.
Actually Barbara, Victor himself said that the engines are fed a substance nicknamed ‘green water’, that temporarily puts them to sleep. This is also done with coaches and trucks, and to wake them, they simply fire them up ( or in the trucks, give them a push ).
And James, I have always wanted to see the black water thing, it’s just such a matter that we somehow want to see.
Now that makes me wonder. Will Victor Tanzig do a video about non-faceless engines taken Black Water in there sleep by scrappers tourch holding men? That does sound dark but would make sence why Wilbert Awdre would add that in the books.
Well in Diagnosis, you got your wish...poor Adam
Be careful what you wish for…
Oh belt up Gordon
Jeez
Great job on the story, it might be one of my new favorites
I like the Henry’s Tunnel style ending there. Great job with the episode, and I wish you luck
13:08 "And when it started on september 11th"
Why did yoi quote it?
Not counting “Atrocity” from Stories of War, this is the longest episode you’ve made to date.
Thief has about the same run time but I have to say I like the long run time. I've been disappointed that the run time for this season's episodes have been rather short.
Terry Altherr I know, what the hell, right?
Totally forgot that today was Stories of Sodor Friday, pleasently surprised to be reminded and hyped to finally watch the episode!
Jesus christ
This is my favourite Stories of Sodor episode, it takes risks and its controversial seeing a major character admit to such a heinous crime out of pure hate for the target. Yet there is that awkward feeling of sympathy towards Peter, a conflict of such a scale would inevitably change people, and I dont mean for the better. What peter did was wrong, but its better that he let the anger out rather than live out the rest of his life telling a lie. This was also the day which I did my Drama written GCSE, it went awfully and this cheered me up to no end and I went on to finish my exams and pass 8 out of 9 of them, so cheers Victor
I think this has to be the darkest episode. While Peter's reasons were understandable I think he got pushed too far for him not to feel any remorse.
Peter wasn’t properly prepared for the courtroom AND there was no jury! His defense attorney was not very smart Like a lifeguard that coulkdn’t swim!
Whoa......I wasnt expecting peter to say that
Jeez talk about an unseen twist, I'm glad I avoided that spoiler when you teased it cause it was an amazing episode
Even with the spoiler, it was a great episode. Hell, I became far more interested to see the episode once I saw the Preview.
Holy crap I’m first I love your channel victor and I absolutely love your series and also how come you don’t have a verification you deserve one
(Sees Peter in trial)
Me: .... THIS IS LAW AND ORDER IN A NUTSHELL!!
To be fair, this definitely had more of a JAG feel to it
True.
Guess what time it is everybody! *IT'S STORIES OF SODOR FRIDAY!!*
U got my quote
Kid: Come on ma, the sodor show is about to start
Ma: I got the popcorn and soda.
Hooray!
Your best episode yet!
Love the story man, cant wait for more.