It's comical that theists comment here about their misconceptions and then offer no evidence, study, or research to prove their point. Unless regurgitating scripture from a book they know very little about is evidence. Appreciate your years of rational perspective, Bart.
What are you talking about? Just do a quick search on CZcams and you’ll see many theists debunking his nonsense. He can’t even debate with them because he’s sticking to his bias and his facts are all wrong.
We don’t have to offer you evidence and research because the research already has been done for the past few hundred years. It’s just that you’re not aware of it. Bart is not accurate with his understanding of scripture at all. That’s why he sees contradictions that are not there. He doesn’t even get how old the gospels are correct. Secular and non secular historians agree on things that he doesn’t because he’s wrong.
@@everykneeshallbowzao Yeah,, because we all know that all the other gods are fake and ONLY your magic nonsense is real. BTW,, the bible is the claim, not the evidence. You don't got siht.
@@everykneeshallbowzao Then give us ONE thing that proves your anonymous gospels are correct... Since you claim all this 'evidence and research' has already been done.
Find me one magician who can raise a body from the dead after days of rotting? You won’t, only one has and His name is Jesus Christ (Yeshua HaMashiach). Calling Jesus a magician is just another way to diminish the Power He has.
@@CristianoRonaldo-li9gu Eyewitnesses were willing to die for something they saw with their very eyes. That wouldn’t be the case if they were lying about it, only if they truly believed that Jesus Christ rose from the dead.
@@CristianoRonaldo-li9gu Debunked how? 😂 This is historical information that the apostles died for the belief that Jesus Christ rose from the dead. They were given opportunity to recant and they did not and kept preaching the risen Christ. So if this was all a made up lie humans don’t die for things or even get persecuted for things they know is made up and have no benefit to their life financially, in fame, or any other prize. We know this also by the watergate scandal, these men all quickly recanted their lie as soon as mention of jail time was put on the table. So we know that people don’t die brutal deaths for things they know are a lie and have no benefit to them. Therefore they must have truly believed that Jesus Christ was risen from the dead.
WRONG! For one thing Jesus was simply a human being who experienced Enlightenment. And many have had this experience but mostly in the Himalayan region and especially in India. He even traveled there to learn and be initiated by the Saints and Enlightened Ones. The three Wise Men were Masters from India and they told Mary to send her Son there when He reached a certain age. You see, none of this is in any "scripture". But these facts and truths exist. Have you not read "Autobiography of a Yogi"? Have you not heard of the "current" Jesus living among us here now named Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev? Go quick and watch His TED TALKS - SADHGURU video where He tells about His enlightenment experience at the age of 25. It is the same experience Jesus says He had during His so-called 40 days alone in the Wilderness. It is the experience we all hope to have on a Soul level. It is why millionaires and billionaires are never truly happy and always feel like something is missing! Sadhguru says that when you have this experience the whole Universe full of information is downloaded into you. You are having the experience of being God. All-knowing. There is so much more than ancient writings and scriptures! But we live in a World full of know-it-alls. And when you know it all you have eliminated the chance of every knowing anything at all. Seekers of Truth find it! And it lands in your lap in miraculous ways!
Craig S. Keener has noted that a slight thew of the miracles of Jesus was contained in the hypothetical early document Q, thought to be one of our earliest witnesses to the sayings of Jesus. As well as just sayings alone of Jesus that has Jesus think of himself as some sort of excisost (just interesting). However, of course this is not a slam dunk.
Elymas bar JESUS of Cyprus WAS a magician! The interesting question is WAS he the SON of the JESUS Justus of Corinth mentioned in the greeting of Paul's epistle to the Colossians and member of the Justus family whose house was next door to the synagogue in which Paul preached while he was staying in Corinth and in whose he stayed while doing it and who were presumably the OPERATORS of the HELLENISTIC-Judish synagogue?? 🤔🧐🥸("Acts" 13:8-12)
Bart....a couple questions please.....Is there a God and one who was known as Jesus? Did both of them go silent hundreds of years ago? Who is the expert on this subject Bart? Do you know him or her? Did Divine inspiration actually exist? You see here, just like with all Christians, you can only offer an opinion. Opinions and interpretations are the same thing. I know you know this. Tell me, did Divine inspiration stop hundreds of years ago? Nothing and nobody has been inspired in the last 100 years? No music? Movies? Art? Architecture? Inventions? Medical breakthroughs? How about books Bart? I love to ask Christians these important questions! Man you should see the shade of red on their faces when they hear my questions! Do you know.....if and when God or Jesus were to speak to the human race would Christians get an email or a text message? Surely they will know right? I mean, after God learned His lesson with the bible and how His book was not known or ever seen by many millions of people surely He will make sure His words will be known by all humans and especially His chosen Ones the Christians right? Have you asked these important questions to any bible scholars Bart? If not, why? Ask them why the most HIGHLY Spiritual places on Earth, the whole Himalayan region and for sure India, has no bibles....Christians don't know that the three Wise Men were actually Enlightened Masters from India. And they came to the so-called Holy Land to tell Mary and Joseph to send their son to India once He reaches a certain age. You can learn all about this and His travels to India in HIS BOOK titled Jesus And Mastership! If I never mentioned this book here you would never know about it. You see, you must be a Spiritual Seeker of Truth to find such important GIFTS like this book. We live in a world full of Know-it-alls. And when you know it all you have shut out the chance to every really know anything. But when you can utter the magic words "I don't know" then the possibility of KNOWING opens up for you! I know you wll do a video about this bit of commentary here.....won't you?
If Jesus was a convincing magician, thinker and theologian, who was he a protege of? All great figures have a teacher / mentor of some sort, what is the hypothesis for Jesus?
@@raycaster4398 Understood 100%, but my point was what linage is Jesus's from, since he seems to had some traction beyond the others of his day. For example, for Alexander the Great it may have been Diogenes
I don't think you heard Bart well. We are looking at magic with a modern lens. Magic in the time of Jesus was a technique to access the occult realm. And if Jesus could access the occult realm than ....
So you don't believe in God existence? What a great brain you have!!! It's enough to thing only about Fine-tuning that refers to the remarkable precision in the values of fundamental constants and parameters of the universe. If any of these values were even slightly different, life as we know it would not exist. This apparent fine-tuning raises questions about the nature of the universe and whether it points towards some form of intentional design or purpose. Rethink baby.
@@kingofalldashcams7380 Do you mock yourselves or us? Even the tiniest particle in the universe remains motionless without an impetus. Despite the discovery of countless laws, the ultimate cause remains the Creator of this cosmos, even if it’s as small as a single atom. Nothing emerges from absolute nothingness; if something arises according to physical laws, who established those laws? Do not fall into the folly of atheism; contemplate the awe-inspiring complexity and precision of the living cell and consider its miraculous existence. Within it lies a divine spark, guiding you to enlightenment. Otherwise, you consign yourself to a state of ignorance and despair.
@@kingofalldashcams7380 Do you mock yourself or us? Even the tiniest particle in the universe remains motionless without an impetus. Despite the discovery of countless laws, the ultimate cause remains the Creator behind, even if it’s as small as a single atom. Nothing emerges from absolute nothingness; if something arises according to physical laws, who established those laws? Do not fall into the folly of atheism; contemplate the awe-inspiring complexity and precision of the living cell and consider its miraculous existence. Within it lies a divine spark, guiding you to enlightenment. Otherwise, you consign yourself to a state of ignorance and despair.
@@canbest7668 everyone is biased but some are confident in the truth. Maybe the truth of God has set them free and brought life to them. In that case it’s no longer bias based on doubts and lies. Bart has staked his entire career trying to look for contradictions and inerrancies in the bible but most of it is lies and really poor reasoning and understanding of history. He’s a disgrace of a historian
@@everykneeshallbowzao he’s found the holes that believers deny because they’re entire Christian belief system is based on weak and ridiculous arguments. Hopefully some Christians can wake up and see this - and get out.
Hello Bart. The answer to your question is in the Quran (the word of God) Chapter 3 verse 49. Why are you asking people while the whole TRUTH about Jesus is in the Quran
One of the earliest paintings of Jesus is in the catacombs of Rome. He has short dark hair wears a roman tunic and holds up a magic wand
It's comical that theists comment here about their misconceptions and then offer no evidence, study, or research to prove their point. Unless regurgitating scripture from a book they know very little about is evidence. Appreciate your years of rational perspective, Bart.
What are you talking about? Just do a quick search on CZcams and you’ll see many theists debunking his nonsense. He can’t even debate with them because he’s sticking to his bias and his facts are all wrong.
We don’t have to offer you evidence and research because the research already has been done for the past few hundred years. It’s just that you’re not aware of it. Bart is not accurate with his understanding of scripture at all. That’s why he sees contradictions that are not there. He doesn’t even get how old the gospels are correct. Secular and non secular historians agree on things that he doesn’t because he’s wrong.
@@everykneeshallbowzao Yeah,, because we all know that all the other gods are fake and ONLY your magic nonsense is real.
BTW,, the bible is the claim, not the evidence.
You don't got siht.
@@everykneeshallbowzao Then give us ONE thing that proves your anonymous gospels are correct... Since you claim all this 'evidence and research' has already been done.
@@everykneeshallbowzao If your idea of valid research is CZcams, then that explains everything, doesn't it? ;-)
As soon as a document surfaces that shows that Jesus actually said: "Hey presto"... 😁😁
Find me one magician who can raise a body from the dead after days of rotting? You won’t, only one has and His name is Jesus Christ (Yeshua HaMashiach).
Calling Jesus a magician is just another way to diminish the Power He has.
Give proof he raised people from dead ??
@@CristianoRonaldo-li9gu
Eyewitnesses were willing to die for something they saw with their very eyes. That wouldn’t be the case if they were lying about it, only if they truly believed that Jesus Christ rose from the dead.
@@YeshuaSaves3 bart debunked this as well.
@@CristianoRonaldo-li9gu
Debunked how? 😂
This is historical information that the apostles died for the belief that Jesus Christ rose from the dead. They were given opportunity to recant and they did not and kept preaching the risen Christ.
So if this was all a made up lie humans don’t die for things or even get persecuted for things they know is made up and have no benefit to their life financially, in fame, or any other prize. We know this also by the watergate scandal, these men all quickly recanted their lie as soon as mention of jail time was put on the table. So we know that people don’t die brutal deaths for things they know are a lie and have no benefit to them.
Therefore they must have truly believed that Jesus Christ was risen from the dead.
@@YeshuaSaves3 None of the Gospel writers were eyewitnesses.
Without scripture there would be no record of any Jesus Moses or Abraham.
All myths over time by story tellers.
WRONG! For one thing Jesus was simply a human being who experienced Enlightenment. And many have had this experience but mostly in the Himalayan region and especially in India. He even traveled there to learn and be initiated by the Saints and Enlightened Ones. The three Wise Men were Masters from India and they told Mary to send her Son there when He reached a certain age. You see, none of this is in any "scripture". But these facts and truths exist. Have you not read "Autobiography of a Yogi"? Have you not heard of the "current" Jesus living among us here now named Sadhguru Jaggi Vasudev? Go quick and watch His TED TALKS - SADHGURU video where He tells about His enlightenment experience at the age of 25. It is the same experience Jesus says He had during His so-called 40 days alone in the Wilderness. It is the experience we all hope to have on a Soul level. It is why millionaires and billionaires are never truly happy and always feel like something is missing! Sadhguru says that when you have this experience the whole Universe full of information is downloaded into you. You are having the experience of being God. All-knowing. There is so much more than ancient writings and scriptures! But we live in a World full of know-it-alls. And when you know it all you have eliminated the chance of every knowing anything at all. Seekers of Truth find it! And it lands in your lap in miraculous ways!
Actually not true in regards to Jesus of Nazareth. Certainly no myth. Legendary elements? of course.
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Show me corroborating evidence Jesus lived. Must be anything other than scripture.
May you find Jesus Bart
Where can I find historical records of magicians during the time of Jesus?
I don’t recall the magic act where someone is whipped to a bloody pulp then nailed to cross, stabbed with a spear to show up three days later.
It depends on how the world magician is defined.
Some in the Bible defined it as "sorcerer".
Craig S. Keener has noted that a slight thew of the miracles of Jesus was contained in the hypothetical early document Q, thought to be one of our earliest witnesses to the sayings of Jesus. As well as just sayings alone of Jesus that has Jesus think of himself as some sort of excisost (just interesting). However, of course this is not a slam dunk.
Yeshua did all those miracles. He is the messenger of God
Shalom, Bart.
Elymas bar JESUS of Cyprus WAS a magician! The interesting question is WAS he the SON of the JESUS Justus of Corinth mentioned in the greeting of Paul's epistle to the Colossians and member of the Justus family whose house was next door to the synagogue in which Paul preached while he was staying in Corinth and in whose he stayed while doing it and who were presumably the OPERATORS of the HELLENISTIC-Judish synagogue?? 🤔🧐🥸("Acts" 13:8-12)
Oh, so you believe magic can cast out domon, heal the sick and raise the dead? Mmm. Never new that.
Demons aren’t real and doctors also heal the sick, does that make them god? There’s no proof anyone raised from the dead
Bart....a couple questions please.....Is there a God and one who was known as Jesus? Did both of them go silent hundreds of years ago? Who is the expert on this subject Bart? Do you know him or her? Did Divine inspiration actually exist? You see here, just like with all Christians, you can only offer an opinion. Opinions and interpretations are the same thing. I know you know this. Tell me, did Divine inspiration stop hundreds of years ago? Nothing and nobody has been inspired in the last 100 years? No music? Movies? Art? Architecture? Inventions? Medical breakthroughs? How about books Bart? I love to ask Christians these important questions! Man you should see the shade of red on their faces when they hear my questions! Do you know.....if and when God or Jesus were to speak to the human race would Christians get an email or a text message? Surely they will know right? I mean, after God learned His lesson with the bible and how His book was not known or ever seen by many millions of people surely He will make sure His words will be known by all humans and especially His chosen Ones the Christians right? Have you asked these important questions to any bible scholars Bart? If not, why? Ask them why the most HIGHLY Spiritual places on Earth, the whole Himalayan region and for sure India, has no bibles....Christians don't know that the three Wise Men were actually Enlightened Masters from India. And they came to the so-called Holy Land to tell Mary and Joseph to send their son to India once He reaches a certain age. You can learn all about this and His travels to India in HIS BOOK titled Jesus And Mastership! If I never mentioned this book here you would never know about it. You see, you must be a Spiritual Seeker of Truth to find such important GIFTS like this book. We live in a world full of Know-it-alls. And when you know it all you have shut out the chance to every really know anything. But when you can utter the magic words "I don't know" then the possibility of KNOWING opens up for you! I know you wll do a video about this bit of commentary here.....won't you?
Keep crying.
Most Historians and Scholars claims Jesus is the Son Of God. So your claim is very weak and kind of stupid. 😊
If Jesus was a convincing magician, thinker and theologian, who was he a protege of? All great figures have a teacher / mentor of some sort, what is the hypothesis for Jesus?
That's just not true, and if it were it would create an infinite regress.
@@Apostate1970 infinite regress, is this math or history lol Not literally everything comes from something else
There were many self-proclaimed prophets, miracle workers, magicians, apocalypticists and even other Jesuses back then.
It was a thing.
@@raycaster4398 Understood 100%, but my point was what linage is Jesus's from, since he seems to had some traction beyond the others of his day. For example, for Alexander the Great it may have been Diogenes
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David.
Oh, mentor? Dunno.
The pharisees themselves accused him of being a magician. He specifically addressed their concerns. Matthew 12:22-28
What scholars? The talmudic scholars? 😂 ok
Nice try Bart. How do you make the blind see again ? ?
You don't. It didn't happen
I don't think you heard Bart well. We are looking at magic with a modern lens. Magic in the time of Jesus was a technique to access the occult realm. And if Jesus could access the occult realm than ....
With magic, clearly
With a plant. Easy.
Shtick. Ba-da-bump.
The same way faith healers like Popoff, Benny Hinn, Copeland, and all the others do today. They actually don't. It is all an act.
So you don't believe in God existence? What a great brain you have!!! It's enough to thing only about Fine-tuning that refers to the remarkable precision in the values of fundamental constants and parameters of the universe. If any of these values were even slightly different, life as we know it would not exist. This apparent fine-tuning raises questions about the nature of the universe and whether it points towards some form of intentional design or purpose. Rethink baby.
@@kingofalldashcams7380 Do you mock yourselves or us? Even the tiniest particle in the universe remains motionless without an impetus. Despite the discovery of countless laws, the ultimate cause remains the Creator of this cosmos, even if it’s as small as a single atom. Nothing emerges from absolute nothingness; if something arises according to physical laws, who established those laws? Do not fall into the folly of atheism; contemplate the awe-inspiring complexity and precision of the living cell and consider its miraculous existence. Within it lies a divine spark, guiding you to enlightenment. Otherwise, you consign yourself to a state of ignorance and despair.
@@kingofalldashcams7380 Do you mock yourself or us? Even the tiniest particle in the universe remains motionless without an impetus. Despite the discovery of countless laws, the ultimate cause remains the Creator behind, even if it’s as small as a single atom. Nothing emerges from absolute nothingness; if something arises according to physical laws, who established those laws? Do not fall into the folly of atheism; contemplate the awe-inspiring complexity and precision of the living cell and consider its miraculous existence. Within it lies a divine spark, guiding you to enlightenment. Otherwise, you consign yourself to a state of ignorance and despair.
A smooth rock???!!! Hahahaha
Congratulations on censoring my comment, you champions of science and supposed advocates for free thinking.
Lol
Except "magic" is used for self-edification... Jesus used "magic" to the benefit of others. Why?
I would not be surprised if he was a magician. He certainly wasn't God or did he claim to be.
He did claim to be God.
@@manuaiipondraken8376 no he didn't. People like you are so uneducated to understand
@@manuaiipondraken8376 he never said I am God worship me. He infact got down on his knees and worshipped God. Your religion is pagan and idol worship.
Sounds to me like Bart has decided ( seen how he's covered a lot so far) to scrape the proverbial barrell
I believe that the actual accusation was sorcery.
Thank you. Ehrman comes off as an educated well read historian but he gets most basic information wrong.
Historians have bias too.
Especially this one.
the have bias against thinking magic guy did magic exactly once in the history of the universe
@@everykneeshallbowzao not as much as god believers.
They’re are _so_ biased…
@@canbest7668 everyone is biased but some are confident in the truth. Maybe the truth of God has set them free and brought life to them. In that case it’s no longer bias based on doubts and lies. Bart has staked his entire career trying to look for contradictions and inerrancies in the bible but most of it is lies and really poor reasoning and understanding of history. He’s a disgrace of a historian
@@everykneeshallbowzao he’s found the holes that believers deny because they’re entire Christian belief system is based on weak and ridiculous arguments.
Hopefully some Christians can wake up and see this - and get out.
It’s a grift from the beginning
Christ is Lord
Hello Bart. The answer to your question is in the Quran (the word of God) Chapter 3 verse 49.
Why are you asking people while the whole TRUTH about Jesus is in the Quran
Jesus came and was resurrected long before the Quran was even a concept. Read 1 John Chapter 4 Verse 1 through 6
Koran is a copy of the Old and New Testament written by story tellers who invented Muhammad.
Hilarious