1970 Porsche 914-6 GT: Everything you need to know plus a test drive!
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Bob Miller talks Vu Nguyen through the history of the Porsche 914-6 GT on our first Road to Rennsport video. The 914-6 GT is a sub-2,000-pound Porsche factory race car with flares and a 210-horsepower flat-six. Be sure to stick around until the end, when when Bob takes this 1970 model on a test drive. Be sure to turn the volume up!
25:55 - Test Drive!
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Hi
I owned this car from 2009 - 2015 and raced it at Le Mans Classic.
I bought the car in Switzerland after it had been stored for 35 years in an underground garage
It had all its factory parts still.
Karl Hloch in Schorndorf Germany assemble the drivetrain.
For Le Mans Classic Steve Winter of Jaz Porsche UK rebuilt the 906 engine, gearbox and suspension
Car beat every 911
The bars into the boot are original to the car and fitted in 1970 in Monza Italy
The 2 9146GT that entered Monza race were so fast the Italians made Ernst Strahle who owned orange 9146GT and Enst Seiler who was original owner of this car were made to get extra hoop support in case of serious crash, hence they left the circuit and had extra bracing fitted. Both cars are identical in cage and cut outs in engine grill.
This car is on the 1971 Factory Monza poster, listed as winning 2Ltr class
Simon
Thanks for sharing!
my 1st Porsche was a 1970 914-6.. I worked at Road Atlanta at the time. That thing was so much fun on the track.. I used to scare the heck out of myself and my girlfriends !!
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Hi
I was heavily involved in the restoration of that car here in England. We build the engine, gearbox, gearshift system and tubed all the suspension settings. We raced it at Le Mans Classic in 2014, beating all the 911’s finishing 3rd highest GT car with only teo Corvettes in front of us. We have in car video of it at Le Mans if you are interested.
Regard
Steve Winter
Jaz Porsche Ltd
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They don't want the footage? Maybe you said the wrong thing "...beating all the 911s.." lol.
I noticed in the video they mentioned the position they came in at le man's and not the fact that the 914 beat out all the 911s back then too lol.
Hi mate - I, for one, would love to see the footage … ! Awesome little car. Hope you and family are well.
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Thanks Steve. What an incredibly mixed field! The little GT certainly makes up for its power deficit under brakes and in the corners!
That engine sound is absolutely magnificent👍👍👍👍👍
The base 914 was a popular device in the States. It was a great driver and the assembly quality was good. For a mechanic like me, it was easy to maintain and satisfy the customers, most of which were young men. Later on, the Fuel Injection and emission controls became a bit problematic with bad flat spots coming off idle, but it was still a good car. The 924 which succeeded it, was disappointing. I came to the states in 1972 with an ex-factory early 914-6 GT with the twin plug Carrera engine. It was raced in the States by Robert Stoddard until it was wrecked at Daytona. (front end damage). I believe that car was repaired later on. The Carrera engine, like others, was a bit of a cheater and a check showed that the engine was a 2,2 liter. We modified our car in the states by installing a pump for the transmission to sure that the ring gear in the transmission was properly lubricated. The rear rims from the factory were a huge problem because it was lacked a proper drop center in the rim, making tire replacement an angry thing at the races, so most cars run with different rear wheels now. To Race in the states, a safety fuel cell had to be installed in the front. This was done early in 1972 by a shop in Florida. The tank was installed at a angle, reducing the fuel capacity. (I suspect this was done on purpose). So my first job as a technician was to re-mount the tank so it could accept a full fuel load. Refueling with the dump can on these cars was dangerous.
Total respect for the proper warm up 👍Thank you very much for showing us around.
Our pleasure! Thanks for watching.
Oh man. I cringe when I see people on CZcams hop in a cold car and just start ripping or revving 😣
Love the sound of that 6! Thanks for the 914-6 education. Great car!
Nice job! I appreciated the in-depth coverage of this special Porsche. And nice job avoiding the garbage truck!
Glad you liked it!
Just an unbelievable GT. The sound on the highway was amazing!!!!
We agree!
Wow, listen to that little MONSTER! 210hp! Absolutely gnarly.
Couldn't agree more!
So good! I think this is the best 914 video on CZcams
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it.
Yeah Bought the one from the 1970 auto show at ny coliseum. It was in the window on the auto show revolving platform at long defunct Queensboro Porsche Audi on Northern Blvd Across the street from what is now Silver Star Mercedes, around the corner from the current Formula Motorsports location (Hi Mark). Blue/Tan. Had them swap out the 14" Fuchs for 15 inch ones. Still have pics. Thursday night racing TVR's, MGB GT'S and what ever else showed up through Central Park Drive . Car was on point.
Cool! Thanks for sharing.
If ever there were a want for a track car in my life, the 914-g GT would be on the short-list
Solid choice🙌 Thanks for watching.
That's one sexy 914! Sounds darn good too and makes me :)
Thanks for watching!
My first new car, 1971 914, willow green. Loved that car, I was only 19 years old. Never thought of warming the car up, I just got in and stomped on it. Had the 914 for 17 years and over 300k miles with one rebuild at 266k. I have learned a lot over the years, I am now 71 and drive the 911 Turbo.
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome car, tutorial and test drive...love it!!
I have a lowly ‘74 914-4 (Raveena Green) and I drive it like I stole it… these are incredible machines and it’s my favorite ride these days (even at 90HP it’s a hoot!) thanks for this amazing walk through time and I love that flat 6 sound!!
Right on. Happy to hear you enjoyed the video.
We brought chassis #1020 Sonauto #40 to the Rennsport Reunion 7, 2023. It was an epic week at Laguna Seca Raceway 🏁
A very interesting and informative video. I would not have guessed in a million years that Porsche used balsa wood as deck support, crazy! I've never given the 914 much thought before viewing this video as I didn't really know that much about the car. The test drive really put a smile on my face!!
2nd time watching this. Enjoying it all over again.
Love it!
Thank you for giving us a taste of this wonderful machine running. I can imagine what they looked and sounded like on the track.
Our pleasure, glad you enjoyed it.
As the original owner of a 71 914 and a 76 and longtime lover the GT thoroughly enjoyed this and surprised at how much I learned
Thanks for watching!
Very entertaining and informative video. That sound just makes me smile!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sounds like a beast....love it.
Way to drop the mic by taking the car on the road! What a nice surprise. Love the sound of that flat 6. Please do more videos like this.
You got it!
THOSE REV MATCHES ON THE UP SHIFTS @ 30MIN MARK ! ! ! ! UGGGHHHH , SOUNDS SOOO GOOD AND CRISP ! ! !
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Ausgeseitnet! Oh, how I long for my 1972 914 which I purchased new for $4006. Listening to Todd Rungren on the AM radio with the targa top off at night, smelling the orange blossoms on the eastern side of Phoenix. Thanks for the fantastic overview and drive of a truly lovely vehicle. Johnson - Bozzani Porsche/Audi was my "second home" back then...
Thanks for watching!
Man, let me first say that I didn't expect you guys to take that car out for a drive. That was INCREDIBLE.
I'm blown away. I love 914's!!
I’ve been hooked on 914’s from the first time I saw a GT.. Owned seven since early 1980’s . Currently, a short stroke 6(2.5), a track toy SBC V8 Renegade and a project 8 point caged, GT flared, turbo brakes, with a 930 , 3.0 intercooled twin turbo motor .
Flawless.. Phenomenal sound
I drove one of these like 25 years ago. It was a nice yellow and in mint condition. It was brilliant. My mom’s boyfriend never found out.
Thanks for sharing!
Sounds amazing. Can't wait to finish my 2.7 for my GT...
Glad you enjoyed the video.
Great! Always loved the 914.
Thanks for watching!
my brother leased this very car, in color Irish green, for $128, a month, brand new.on a three years lease. Dennis was a good driver, very fast, and got the car at 15.8, in quarter miles at 78 miles per hour, totally stock, It needed an anti roll bar, and bigger tires, to be real fun. He sold it near the end of the lease, and got two thousand back...
That thing sounds sooo good
If I remember correctly, the cage extensions were indeed created and used by the factory. I'll have to try to find the article from years ago that talked about them. The extensions I believe were welded in to the chassis instead of being bolted in.
A nice car! Would love to own a 914 Porsche like this one! Green is my favorite color :)
While driving my 718 GT4 today I saw a yellow 914 like my first car. It clearly had a 6 cyl. As the driver waved to me I thought about the generational similarities of the cars and wondered about a GT4 equivalent to the 914. Here it is… more like the Clubsport or even RS. Thanks for sharing you guys, awesome video.
Someone made a right good video just about your topic on generational similarities:
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Always a pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it.
Wonderful video. Looks like a Fittipaldi steering wheel. I had one on my '79 turbo. The best steering wheel ever.
Thanks for watching!
Sorry correction. Our Le Mans classic race was 2012
At Watkins Glenn in the 6 hour in 1972 there was a white 914/6 gt no integrated roll bar in the trunk area.
Very cool.
Balsa wood!! Whoa! What a video fellas thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
Amazing car!
#porsche914 #pca #porsche #rennsportreunion2023
Awesome!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great video,especially out on the road…
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video =)
Thank you! Cheers!
My episode so far to date!
Thanks for watching!
Porsche 914 - There is no substitute.
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Balsa wood a strengthening agent? Who knew!
Thanks for watching.
I believe the balsa core is installed with the grain running perpendicular to the 2 fibreglass skins. The balsa core acts as a spacer and adds rigidity to the sandwich.
Also Patrick Motorsports does a 914 conversion using a3.2 and 3.6 911 engine with fuel injection.
Thanks for sharing!
I'm not sure if it's fair to say that the 914 suspension is more modern or "better" than a 911's of the time. The 914's rear suspension is obviously different because with the engine in front of the gearbox it was impossible to mount a semi-trailering arm suspension like the 911 had. The mounting points would have been inside the engine block. So they had to go with a pure trailing arm suspension and as a result they lost the camber-gain in bump that is a feature of the 911's semi-trailing arm suspension. The same reasoning applies to the coil-over springing -- because of the engine location it was just impossible to mount the torsion-bars as used on the 911. Are coil springs innately better than T-bars? Actually no. T-Bars have a lower unsprung weight since the entire bar is mounted to the chassis and thus "sprung". Half of a coil-spring is considered to be unsprung, and so adds to wheel inertia. If coil springs are so ideal, why have F1 cars eliminated them in favor or T-bars for the last 20+/- years? The answer is for the same reasons that I described above -- packaging and (to a lesser degree as a result of inboard suspensions) unsprung weight.
Also, the 914's welded steel trailing arm is pretty flexible compared to the equivalent piece on the 911. I had a friend who raced a 914 in the SCCA, and I did a Finite element analysis of the 914's trailing arm, and there was considerable twist along it's length -- especially in racing situations with fat sticky tires and high horsepower engines. The result is that the toe and camber would not stay in an ideal range. There really wasn't much that you could do to strengthen it short of adding material, which increased the unsprung weight again.
I think that it's safe to say that the 914's rear suspension is different than a 911's for packaging reasons, and this resulted in a number of compromises that didn't exist in the 911. Did they offset the benefits of the lower polor moment resulting from the centrally mounted engine -- most likely not, so they were most likely acceptable compromises in hindsight.
To answer your question all you have to do is race them and the 914 kills a 911 every time of the same era...
great price !
Thanks for watching!
That engine has a glorious sound. I'm a bit surprised to see the factory didn't weld the top in place for additional body rigidity, in addition to what the cage provides.
Great point!
The 914-6 GT was supposed to still be a production car so if the production car had a proper roof structure, it had that, but with the removable targa top Porsche used, it had to stay with that. Of course the roll cage added quite a bit of torsional stiffness. The 916 variants DID have a proper welded steel roof structure to the front windshield hoop, probably better than the original but still less than a full roll cage in terms of stiffness.
In the right colors (light ivory with clear signal lenses, orange, black, blue, green, silver) the 914 is easily the best looking porsche ever made (especially from the back). Although no porsche pulls of red quite like the 911 :P.
The NARP reputation always confused me... as though it was the only collaboration with VW or Audi. The 924, 944, 968s were collaborations. Even the 356 and 912s had VW engines. It's like the world decided to point the finger at one and brand that title.
Thanks for watching!
You'd have to check with Jim from Brumos or maybe Kevin at Gunner. If you look at period photos of the Brumos 914-6 GT that won the first ever IMSA race, or the Sunoco 914-6 GT that ran Daytona in 1971, neither of those cars have a roll cage or even a bar. They were all added later by the individual teams. I do not believe there was ever a factory Porsche roll bar or cage for the 914. If I remember the targa bar was actually strong enough for SCCA rules back in the day.
This car came from the factory without a roll cage. The cage was fitted at Monza in 1970 as instructed by the 1000km officials to this car and the Ernst Strahle car as they thought they were unsafe.
I have all the period photos of both cars from 1970z
Yes, "thank you for sharing." Dem?
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This is a link to the in car footage of ne driving the car at Le Mans 2012
That is awesome, thanks for sharing.
Awesome!
Thank you! Cheers!