Learning Staff Fighting Basics
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"So if you stand like this..."
Everyone slowly backs away
We need a crossover with this instructor and the HEMA quarterstaff guy.
I'd be really surprised if a HEMA guy would want anything to do with this guy other than to fight them.
Looking at their website and stuff they don't really do a lot of fighting and do more basics and stretching. Which is great for staying healthy. But, usually the people that do fight would raise it's not as great for actually fighting.
Not a good matchup. In HEMA every weapon is a lethal weapon plus the staffs have nothing to do with each other. A japanese bo-jutsu teacher, sure, they like us Europeans use really hard and dense staffs for killing, Chinese staffs are waxwood or bamboo which are defensive weapons. You keep your opponent at bay and knock some sense into them. You don't crack their heads like eggs for omelette.
Thus the techniques are nowhere near similar too. Personal experience. When i did shaolin the staff was my least favourite weapon. Too fast, too flashy. Too much fumbling. In HEMA it's one of my favourites. It's just reach and raw power. (Of course it's more than that but that's what it feels like. A European quarterstaff feels AWESOME in your hand. Most staffs I trained with in shaolin feel flimsy).
Plus as said above, shaolin is not primarily meant for combat. It is a variation of qui gong (a variation of tai chi) introduced into the original monastery of shaolin to keep the monks healthy. I'm not saying it's ineffective for combat, quite the opposite, but when practicing street defense you have to take elements out of it because they would not be helpful. So in the self defense based schools you learn most techniques "twice". One as used in forms one for actual combat use. But as it is traditionally taught, it's to keep up your health
@@Metalhammer1993 if you want a truly accurate depiction of strong Chinese martial arts weapons, look for the wing chun staff (six and a half point pole) and the weapons used for some of the harder styles meant to kill and do harm. Like you said, Shaolin is more for health, unless you're a true disciple and choose to become a warrior monk. If you want stuff that could go up against hema, try the southern styles like hung kuen and choy lee fut.
@@marcow246 thanks i will check that out. Cause being healthy is great, so great i should get my butt back in that direction, but in terms of armsmanship iÂŽm just more interested in how people used weapons historically to fend for their lives. It just is a matter of personal interest i suppose^^
I'd like to see Ranton review this
Big agree.
Big agree
What's the point it's always 7. XD
Rantoni MEGALADONI!!!
Not Ranton, but I don't agree with that thrust. Gong Bu (goong-bow) is meant to be longer than Ma Bu (mah-bow), and just turning into it (as opposed to stepping into it) can withhold power. Balancing your staff on your legs in Ma Bu is an accurate training method, though.
I'd just like to correct a few things that this man said about the Japanese bo. For one thing, the bo is not a weapon that was traditionally used in Japanese martial arts. It's an improvised Okinawan weapon owing that status to the fact that the Japanese confiscated the more lethal weapons from the Okinawans. Also, the Okinawan bo is nothing like what he called the "Japanese" bo. The bo is traditionally about the same height as the person using it and it can be wider in the middle and taper down towards both ends or it can be a constant width.
Note: I say this as an actual martial artist that practices and is an instructor in an Okinawan martial art.
I was thinking that too! Although he's right about fighting with it from the middle.
@@firefly5247 As they have said before, if you really want to know something post it on youtube and then wait for the comments, heh, cool to know though
I would also like to add that for the most part a tru shaolin trained master would have to chinese by heritage and ethnicity due to their purity of tradition. This man is very white.
Nicholas Jones wtf, shaolin temples are almost open to anyone from anywhere... its just that yeah heâs not a master or anything ig, he just learned things there and then try to teach people, theyâre so many to do that
Nicholas Jones but there are people who have the levels of knowledge of a true master while not being chinese mdrrrr
As someone who trained with actual shoalin monks for 5 years and has been through the same thing itâs very fun to see this from the other side.
How legit is this stuff? I'm a little sceptical of him. But I have no knowlege
@@Texicus_Reddicus the forms in shoalin, as you see in the video, are designed to stretch and condition your body to become used to those kinds of movements. Similar to drills in boxing. Then once youâre a higher level they will teach you the practical applications of the forms. If you wanna bypass all of that you can check out Sanda/Sanshou. Those are a more modernized version and if youâre into mma youâll probably enjoy those more. In fact most shoalin schools nowadays should have Sanda classes in conjunction with the more traditional forms.
@@Texicus_Reddicus if you want to protect yourself safest bets are to check out muay thai, bjj, and judo, if you're really serious. Make sure you're doing live sparring thats the biggest part of any seld defense learning bless up enjoy your journey
@@sylaconnocalys8443 did you study at the shaolin temples in china? if so how was it?
I was 100% in as soon as Jason said, "I almost hit myself in the boing loings!"
Guy: pronounces mandarin words incorrectly
me, speaking 0 mandarin after 8 years or mandarin: i don't t r u s t you
Darlene Lesmana As a Chinese, I can tell you that yes his pronunciation was off. Tho it wasnât as bad as some.
Pronunciation ain't the best but his form and technique isn't all that bad
Well... itâs probably just an accent thing. Like how I have been speaking German every day for 8 years now, and people still hear Iâm not German. I mispronounce A LOT of stuff.
Darlene Lesmana and weâve heard no form authentication, for all we know he learned of off the internet. Worrier monks have âmonk IDâ
you would be right to assume that. nearly everything he did would get him slapped with a stick. this some bullshito right here
The aesthetic of this channel with the fairly quick texts and the little circle showing how much time is left of a segment is really nice. Makes this channel stand out more imo. And the hosts are just two dudes being grown manchildren, which never gets old
Shailon also teaches chain whips, swords, and other bladed lethal weapons.
you know you need to get your hema quarterstaff friends up against these guys right?
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These guys would get crushed. They have skill, but the english staff would break their staff in half, and they turn around far too much. That's how you catch one to the back of the head. They would look cool though.
TheRealAlpha2 best. Comment. EVER.
To make it fair, quarter staff vs wing chun staff, that way, the length and techniques are close enough that it's just a battle of skill
Why? One is a about looking cool while fighting air, the other is "there are no rules, this is a stick fight (said while bashing the other guy upside the head)".
The first rule of assessing irl usefulness is looking for protective gear. Anthony and Bryant put on head guards/gloves and actually hit each other. Wise man once said âeveryone has a plan until they get punched in the mouthâ.
When I first looked at the thumbnail with my peripheral vision, my eyes saw the phrase 'Idiots Learn Staff Fighting.'
First thought: _"Well, I guess that's one way to deal with a bad case of office politics..."_
*Looks again* «facepalm» đ
you should do a series where you attempt to convert the van that sits on the property
Shaolins are Warriors. Not just monks. The staff is a *Lethal* weapon. A *very* powerful one too.
Exactly. And what about the Shaolin bladed weapons, such as Dao, Jian and Qiang?
Jason could master quarter staff in his backyard along his nunchuk moves
This is definitely not quarter staff. If you hit someone in the head with a quarter staff with the same forces hes putting on that pole, you'd split their skull like a coconut. His staff is light. And it's likely a branch. A quarter staff comes from the trunk of the tree.
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I hope Ranton will react to this
he should
Heâs gonna hit them with a stick
first thing I thought of
Ikr
Weird I thought this video was going to be about fighting your fellow co-workers in the office? Still a good vid!
Everlast yeah very different type of staff meeting đ
I still remember holding the horse stance from my old days of training... I felt the burn in my legs just watching you guys do it.
YES! I remember asking for this about a year ago or so! Thank you guys for doing it!
We need a Ranton reaction to this
That's exactly what I was thinking. I was honestly hoping it was Ranton when I saw the title.
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Note* THAT staff is for sure non-lethal. Take one of those English quarter staffs, and you've got a totally different story. One of those will split your skull in half.
You know. YOU KNOW, I want more Shaolin kick butt awesomeness. Please more with these guys.
I always love it when Jason surprises Brian after doing a different move than what they are specifically practicing.
13:20 Mario: "You're fine."
Also Mario: "And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next."
Two things. Brian cheated at the end, making him drop the staff like that, but perfect ploy for a rogue. ;) ...and Jason could have taken the temple cause his awesome beard would have cowed the temple members into submission. ::nods:: Thats my theory and I'm sticking to it.
I'm more impressed by Meyer's or Swetnam's "HEMA" staff than this.
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I believe the philosophy behind the staff is as follows - "Avoid, rather than check. Check, rather than hurt. Hurt, rather than maim. Maim, rather than kill. For all life is precious, nor can any be replaced."
Exactly, Grasshopper.
I was literally thinking about this sparingly in the last two days and you guys post a video on it. Wow. Prophetic.
my man Ranton, come review this
Honestly I love this channel. Great video as always... Also that ATLA reference comment was absolute GOLD
3:50 'a guard might get nervous...'
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the animations are spot on
13:07 Ah, I see in the background that they brought their training dummy along to learn!
Any time I see a middle aged white guy teaching martial arts I get skeptical. There's been too many of those "chi knockout" dudes around that were taught be ancient Chinese masters.
From what I see here he is pretty legit. Thereâs a lot of misconceptions that Shoalin Kung Fu gives mystical powers and what not. The guy in the video seems clear that itâs not really a true combat sport more than it is a performative art.
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Shit, that takes me back. I haven't done any kung fu in almost 20 years now. Still have my gun staff in the wardrobe, now that I think of it.... though I always thought it was spelled guan - but I guess since it uses a completely different writing system, a bit of variation is to be expected.
âThe Shaolin temple abhors violenceâ
Ranton would like to know your location
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*gets the beating stick*
Yo wtf he replied
@@RealRanton Aw shit, it's the mans himself.
Laoshi... Lol replace the "i" with a "u" and it means mouse.
The only reason I know that is because of laoshu505000
@@zachzaslavsky4282 not Dead Lao5hu?
@@zachzaslavsky4282 You know.
Watching in 2020
From my non martial art knowledge, this seems like a pretty comprehensive teaching,
Much love from the UK rogues
5:10 - I don't know, why but my point of focus at this part of the video was Jason and I was into wheezy old man laughter territory in no time!
First 2 cycles of the stick were spot on and then he sees speed introduced and suddenly it's all over the place haha. The hallway concept got him back on track.
If only someone told me about spinning the broom in a hallway when I was 7, I'd be a Shaolin monk now.. bah!!
Brian, in all these martial videos you need a narrower stance. They say shoulder width and you go almost double. In this one he said double shoulder width and you went almost triple.
yeah, that's my fire eating stance kicking in. I'm working on it, promise!
I saw the intro and my immediate thought Avatar The Last Airbender. The staves look like Aang's (minus the gliders) and the fighting style (seemed) to be similar.
Because the martial arts portrayed in avatar the last airbender are based almost solely in traditional chinese martial arts
7:15 Jason gets: *High Five!*
Brian gets: *TREE GUARD*
Brain and The Modern Rogue, I love the show, but I'd like to throw a tiny nugget of information at you.
I have watched for a long time, and I noticed something in this video particularly (Although I've noticed it in others, it wasn't as pronounced) when YOU Brian Brushwood are doing these kinds of exercises, and the main difference between yourself, Jason Murphy, and those who had done these kinds of exercises often.
Tension.
I'll explain my observation, and try and explain why I think this is happening, and make a suggestion as to how you can change the situation, should you chose to. (Oh course, this is the internet, and opinions are like assholes, we all have them, but think everyone elses' stinks, lol.)
When Jason starts his practice, you can see that his mental headspace is trying to learn the physical motions, and while that DOES take him a while, they do come more naturally to him, as he's not stressed out about them, he's just having a fun cool time, and trying to figure something out.
Your mental headspace seems different. It seems like in your head, you're thinking of this as a real combative experience from the get-go, and so you're actually quite tense. You ARE more precise, at least at the beginning, but in those first few motions, that precision means nothing, because you don't yet know what you SHOULD be doing, lol.
Now I'm going to explain a small piece of helpful advice when it comes to mental headspace, and how it connects to both actual combat, and muscle-tissue bio-kinematics.
It's easiest to imagine your muscles as elastic bands (it's not precisely correct, but it's a not-entirely-inaccurate analogy) pulling on your bones, and eventually transferring that force into the ground, through friction and contact with the ground. Now if you take an elastic band, and stretch it halfway, how much farther can you stretch it? In comparison from when the elastic was completely relaxed? Not as far.
Your muscles are kinda the same in this regard. The more tension they have, they less energy they can provide when contracting quickly, in order to produce a sudden strike. This actually means that tension is precisely the enemy you must face if you want to fight at full efficiency.
In general, with most martial arts, (and this staff fighting is no exception) and in fact many sports as well, there is something of a whip, or chain effect when it comes to the different parts of your body, and how they had to move, in order to deliver the maximum possible force to the target. Everything starts slowly, and picks up speed as the motion moves through your body to the eventual point of maximum dynamic expression.
In the case of that initial staff-strike, the intent is to have the motion start in your feet, your toes digging into the ground, pushing off, in order to change their orientation, in relation to the ground. The motion then should move up your legs, to your hips, where it picks up tremendous force and speed, and only as you cannot stop the motion, should your arms and hands move. The arm and hand motions should be delayed slightly after the foot and hip motions, in order to gain maximum force, you don't do all those things simultaneously.
It's kinda like the difference between pushing a swing as it comes to a standstill, instead of stopping the swing to push it. One obviously works better, lol.
And this is where the headspace thing comes into place. If you thing of these kinds of practices as just fun interesting movements, you won't be as tense. If you're not as tense, you won't be using your muscles as much, and you won't tire out so fast. You'll also be changing your muscles from a fully relaxed state, to a fully contracted state, which is the maximum energy-output possible for muscle fibres. In other words, by trying to relax and enjoy the experience, you'll actually do a lot better, be a lot smoother in your execution, and learn a lot easier.
Not this is all just my own observation of your motions, posture, timing, etc. and I could easily be wrong, so always take anything I say with a grain of salt. Not to mention the fact that I don't claim to be any kind of expert on this kind of thing, but I will say that I know a few things, and I'd rather share them in the hopes they help. I'm sure there are others here who can kindly correct some of the specifics in my suggestions that are slightly erroneous, that's assuming they or anyone even reads all this...
TL;DR Brain Brushwood, you should just try and relax, and have fun with this kinda stuff, lol. Don't let your competitive nature trip you up!
Anyways, hope you're well, keep up the good work!
ArthurEKing8472 thats a very long comment
@@samuelgarcia3989 Yeah... Sorry. lol.
Thatâs staff. But thatâs not fighting. Thatâs dancing.
This seems like more show than defense or anything
It seems that way but 10/10 if someone was fully trained prolly kick all our ass
Yeah go tell them itâs just a show
considering these are monks. its probably just aerobics for them with the added benefit of whoop ass
@@BjornWithASlash lol never said they cant hurt someone but it's mostly show and aerobatics.
It's the modern rogue. It's all show. A few good knowledge bits here and there but all in all mainly show
I used to watch this channel all the time, but for whatever reason stopped. I recently started watching again, and oh man did I forget how much I loved this show!
I'd love to see more of this, maybe get into smoother moves as you get better? Keep it up lads
How did I end up spending my morning watching two grown men swing sticks at each other?
Up next: Ray Park teaches you how to do this, but with double bladed red lightsabers.
I was waiting for this I need to know how to beat ninjas fast
Fast is the only possible way to beat a ninja. If you try to beat them slowly, you'll die. But not before they laugh at you.
The intro sounds like a Simpson opening.
I actually have a pair of Raycons (sadly not with their promo code), and they make a very "SEGA"-esque chorus, but saying Raycon.
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When looking for a Kung Fu master don't go to someone that says that teaches "Shaolin Kung Fu". Shaolin Kung Fu is an umbrella term because Shaolin monks learned different styles depending on the region they were. The most general style is Wushu. In addition, the Japanese bo staff was originally used as a farming tool in Okinawa used for carrying buckets, which explains the thickness. And in the first kobudo kata for bo staff you also perform the batting move that this guy in the video says that isn't done with the Japanese bo staff. You guys should go to a kobudo or karate dojo that teaches weaponry to learn bo staff fighting.
I have taken one main thing away from this video, while that man may have trained for years, and have attained his position through dedication and time, he is not a master. He just seems to have difficulties explaining the simple ideas. Now one thing to note, he is trying to explain to two laymen things that typically are introduced after 6months-1year of training, after developing a decent foundation upon which things are built upon. Taking that into account, I am willing to concede that not having a foundation, or even knowing them well, would have caused many people to have difficulties explaining. As my Instructor always said in the decade or so I trained with him, as a teen/young adult, "You have to learn to walk before you can learn to run, so why would I teach you to control an external weapon before you have control over your internal ones?" Yes, he was blunt, but he made a good point, you have little hope to learn a small portion of a martial art without the proper building blocks of the whole thing. Like doing only the center of a puzzle, only you have half the pieces missing.
What I would like to see though, is them going through a proper training system, something more than just the day or two they spend with these guys, perhaps something where they compare a month vs 6 months vs 1 year. I don't mean everyday for 16 hours a day training either. I am thinking along the lines of 2-3 hours every other day(and that is including proper strength building/cardio/flexibility as well)
But this comment was long, and will be ignored by most.
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11:49 the perfect parallel squat :)
I havnt watched these guys before but they are really great students to watch learn, I feel like they ask all the important questions to get the right lessons out of the teachers
'Historical Weapons Guild VS Shaolin Temple Cultural Center ; A Rogue's Deathmatch'
I can see this happen right now....
Now we just need a beatdown between the shaolin Stick guys and the Longstaff boys from HEMA >:D
You guys should have done this with ranton, great youtuber and ex shao lin
Congratulations on finding 1,000,000 other rogues! Weâve finally gained an army and now we shoot for 10 million!
Brian is such a teachers pet đđ love this channel!!
You guys should do something with DTMF (Duel-tone multi-frequency) tones. One thing you can do is call a phone from a touch-tone phone without pushing the buttons of the touch-tone phone you are calling from, there might be more things you could do with DTMF tones and I was wondering what you might come up with.
0:55 - Bob from Film Riot.
The staff is so dangerous it's banned in Australian medieval combat simulations. Because poking some in the face or most places is so much force it's going to break something. But the skill involved is really interesting. Thanks for the video. But even a broom handle is a deadly weapon!
Congrats on 1 mil
Congratulations on 1 MILLION subs guys! Much deserved and maybe a bit concerning..
if love to see you guys trying to do all those jumping moves đ
Congratulations on 1M subs!!!
Seems kinda illegitimate, at AHWG at least y'all got to test things out with the smelly armour
I loved the way you recorded this video
All I can think about when watching this is "Star Wars Kid".
brain-wan kenobi
You arent wrong.
I bought some raycon 25s with your discount code and I made sure to let them know I heard of them through you guys via youtube.
It be interesting to see him in a position of demonstrating with a tewhatewha whilst respecting the ahua of it at the same time
You guys need to do an episode on how to get into a locker vehicle to retrieve your keys (or other things).
I don't know, the HEMA staff fighting seems more effective. This is the kind of stuff I did when I was 10 years old.
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Wow, that style is extremely inefficient. Looks good though!
seems more theatrical than martial..
Thatâs katas for you
call Ranton
Would love to see more videos like this about non-lethal martial arts
Very happy to watch you guys hold sticks for 20 mins
One of these days you guys need to have orange slices on set ready for when Jason makes that joke.
Congrats on hitting a million!
fighting with broomsticks
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I just found out about this show and im loving everything about it! Its like mythbusters but better. đ
Happy 1 mil!
Modern Rogue learns staffs...
Step back people given 'em LOTS of room.
All I could think about when they were practicing with the staff was darth maul fighting style
Zorro fox Ray Park trained and competed in wushu before he worked on films, so youâre not far off!
Hey......that's my neighborhood!
Love your channel
I watched this video and now this local gang wants to recruit me for my badass bo staff skills
brain-wan kenobi heâs in his Jedi training
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