I Hosted an osu! Tournament and it was Terrible

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
  • I don't get it, how do you guys enjoy this?
    (My Experience Hosting Drum and Bass Enjoyers Cup 2)
    Other Links:
    I have a Twitter Now: / saow_angel
    Twitch: / saowangel
    Discord server: / discord
    osu!profile: osu.ppy.sh/use...
    So I tried Hosting Drum and Bass Enjoyers Cup 2, an osu! tourney in the 5 digit rank range and i probably won't do it again...
    Big tourneys such as osu! world cup or The Roundtable seem fun to host, so I was like why not give it a try.
    Now I'm down 70 dollars and wasted hours organizing and creating mappools just to get roasted. Not worth. Also, can't believe I got "cancelled" on Twitter. I mean it was a failed attempted but it's still funny to us. Feels a bit too early in my CZcams Career to get cancelled in my opinion though.

Komentáře • 92

  • @budzee313
    @budzee313 Před rokem +51

    nice job hosting a badged tournament, people were assholes about things but you should be proud that you made it this far. high quality vid as always

  • @Kibitz
    @Kibitz Před rokem +21

    Can we just appreciate how good this man is at rhyming and spitting bars, great video dude

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem +4

      appreciate the comment, you vids are great too ♥

    • @Kibitz
      @Kibitz Před rokem +3

      @@SaowAngel thanks :DD

  • @Coppertine_
    @Coppertine_ Před rokem +10

    This is actually a good video. I can say that hosting is hard and you start to lose interest even over pety things. I hosted alongside PsychedelicMush (yes, the same girl who made those jokes in the discord.) For SAFST (PsychedlicMush's Scuffed As Fuck Summer Tournament) and PMWT (PsychedelicMush's Winter Tournament). As they were both low 5 digit to high 6 digit unbanned tournaments. A LOT of both tournaments were scuffed. From streams not happening, replayers not getting replays out in time, various bugs with HitomiChan's sheet templates and the 6 month sign up period for SAFST. But honestly, even though I made a majority of the graphics, sheeting, streaming, payments and stuff for both iterations, I had way more fun with SAFST. We essentially started planning 6 months before the fourm post was released and had like a near $200 prize pool for 6 digits (2 year supporter for first place) and we even got a custom song made! For nm6 of grandfinals.. money well spent!
    But honestly, the reason why I persisted with SAFST was with Mush's situation at the time, she found out she was trans during the tournament, got kicked out of her own home and had to stay with her friends for a bit. It gave me a drive to kick every staff into gear for semis and finals to make her proud.
    Now.. PMWT.. were do I start? I guess with the cleaner looking stream overlay I made, and an updated sheet template, it was the same.. but due to my shitty mindset of refusing to stream if I mess up on streaming, a lot of the times the streaming job was handed over to affirmedcheese (major carry) and I was in the shadows whilst I had my own gender questioning that I don't want to get into for now. I just felt I wasn't as connected with PMWT, even when the sheets started to fuck up so much that refs had to use notepads... there were no custom songs since we didn't have much planning and it was not the best but not the worst tourney hosting I did.. at least I made some animated banners without using gif!
    The question if I did hosting again would be a yes if I had someone else with me to handle the pr stuff whilst I would be in the shadows doing the majority of the stuff. I'm happy to so anything technical but my tournament interest had slowly started to diminish as I have not streamed for 6 or so months..
    There could be a ton here that I might have gotten wrong in this essay written on phone.
    But i would like to thank especially Kirania for doing the bulk of mappooling and admin work, affirmedcheese for doing tons of streams and all the refs and staff members of both tournaments. I had fun and hope you did to!
    Edit, we actually planned to do PMST with a custom full flavour tiebreaker with a story.. buut the keyz thing happened and that went down the drain.
    Now Mush is out of the osu tournament community and rarely uses discord and twitter due to that fallout.

  • @sadshiba70
    @sadshiba70 Před rokem +12

    Tourney staffing is stupid hard, you have my respect for giving it a try and not going dark after realising its not something you actually liked doing. I co-hosted a 6 digit tournament a couple years ago (Scarlet's Touhou Tourney) and I was super passionate about it at the start but I started getting drained and realising it wasnt my thing and I did relate quite a bit to your video. Shame the controversy took away your badge but this was an awesome documentation. And at the end of the day, at least you gave hosting a shot. Good stuff man :)))

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem +2

      Yeah i'm glad people relate and understood on hosting tourneys. thanks for the kind words

    • @smollilnub3644
      @smollilnub3644 Před 10 měsíci

      Hey STT was my first tourney I think yall did a plenty good job!

    • @sadshiba70
      @sadshiba70 Před 10 měsíci

      @@smollilnub3644 Hey! Thanks man :D Im glad you enjoyed it.

  • @chlortal
    @chlortal Před rokem +17

    you’re a legend

  • @MisterKeyz727
    @MisterKeyz727 Před rokem +10

    Hi! I'm the one who did the doc! A few things to mention
    1- the only reason I did it is because all those convos went completely unmoderated without even a slap on the wrist until I posted it, and you guys told me to chill because it's just a joke(on a public server that adheres to good behaviour)
    2- The staff thing is always a problem on most tournaments which might be a surprise to some people but there's very few people who really want to put in work after being appointed as such
    3- Due to the nature of this tourney, mappool should not have been a conventional pool because mad respect for making a tournament with a single genre of songs but that restricts mapping ideas so much that sticking to conventional pooling is not such a good idea, maybe you could try Charlie's Perfect Math Class or the other moistcritikal tournament pooling ideas?
    That's all, have a good one and hopefully you take public moderation more seriously!(It does not take that much work)
    One small edit: I will mention that my reaction feels a bit exaggerated but since I got asked to chill(in other ways) because they were friends I did feel like this would've gone to deaf ears anyway
    Twitter post might have been too much yeah but it is what it is, we all learn!

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem +1

      I think the whole drama was a learning experience for both of us lmao 😅 Glad we both learnt from it

  • @Haj46
    @Haj46 Před rokem +3

    No way Saow is pulling out that giga banger video we haven't reaallyy asked for but needed.
    Great Video Quality and thanks for tracing my GOODBYE message in one of the many streams i did xD.
    Really interesting to see what's your side of how you saw dnbec2.
    Personally i would say that everyone who was helping out did a great job. It wasn't the best organized tournament, but it definitely was something some people where talking about a lot (doesn't need to be ment in a negative way, some actually said they liked the idea, but the lack of dnb was just an issue).
    And with that being said, thank you saow!! Thanks for hosting, getting out the registration sheet in the tournament blogs.
    Was just a crazy experience and i am so glad you invited me to it

  • @emriknorth4144
    @emriknorth4144 Před 8 měsíci +2

    3:12 - Seeing Galeath cover as ref for the most lobbies _again_… He's invaluable.

  • @user-je8qe6nb9y
    @user-je8qe6nb9y Před rokem +5

    Sacrificing sleep to watch this at 1am was indeed the right call no regrets

  • @nex3mber
    @nex3mber Před rokem +3

    bro i didnt even knew there were these problems behind the scene 😭 I played the first iteration and in this as well, thank you for hosting Saow ❤❤

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem +1

      We did our best to hide the scuff lmao

  • @asteroidcap3829
    @asteroidcap3829 Před rokem +4

    This was a great video bro keep up the good work!

  • @kaanbasaran6345
    @kaanbasaran6345 Před rokem +1

    I was like, where do I remember this guy from? I joined the staff team for a tiny tiny bit after I got eliminated from DnB Enjoyers Cup 1 lmfao. Keep up the good work, great vid :3c

  • @justcallmesilas
    @justcallmesilas Před rokem +2

    i wanted to host a torunement one day to, now not anymore, great work man

  • @sky1566
    @sky1566 Před rokem +6

    i still stand by drastic generate being more of a hd1 than hd3 as it's just slider aim, not that techy :^)
    anyways, was fun still, even if by the later rounds i was really running out of dnb suggestions (as i already used most of my good ones on the early rounds like quals or dnb cup 1) and i recall some people were very adamant about it being as much dnb as possible over just good maps for slots cuz then what's the point of the tourney gimmick of dnb and stuff...
    wait wut da heeell is this drama, badge cancelling, pdf files... i swear this is news to me
    so... dnb cup 3 when? :^)

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem +1

      maybe it's good to stay innocent of the drama LMAO

    • @Haj46
      @Haj46 Před rokem +1

      dnb cup 3 soon?

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem

      @@Haj46 soon...

    • @Haj46
      @Haj46 Před rokem

      @@SaowAngel got new infos, but its top secret 🐔

  • @generalmayo1918
    @generalmayo1918 Před rokem +2

    THE KING HAS UPLOADED!!!!

  • @saikou5545
    @saikou5545 Před rokem +2

    Heya there, former player of Dnbec2, I just wanna share how it was like for me and my team and what not
    1. The whole drama with mush and such took up a long time in generall chat which lead me to ignore general pretty quickly and mostly talking in private with some staff members (in that case Dorgez) about what was going on and what i needed to know.
    2. Scheduling was a absolute mess for me and my team, qualifiers we're at a bad time as one of our players couldn't play and 1st match was schedule hell which lead to us massively underperforming in that match (sort of same thing that recently happened to me in 5thc where my team got schedule hell'd as staff really didnt care abt when we could play because we were lower seed)
    yeah other than that you mentioned it yourself but pooling was a big issue too, qualifier pool was good, but after that it went downhill drasticaly,
    But i dont really have any hate towards anyone involved, it was just messy and really really awfull experience for us which i wish was a bit better handled by staff, but as you said it there was too little staff to do anything in the first place so its whatever
    And closing words, very well made video however if i wanna add something then please keep certaint jokes in dm's i really did not need to read all that stuff when it occured so just please keep that in mind :)

  • @Pallid3
    @Pallid3 Před rokem +2

    I loved style you used for this video!

  • @lexic4338
    @lexic4338 Před rokem +1

    Hello, I played in that tournament captaining a team called tokebac icitte. Even if we got a earlier exit than expected through tough matchups, it was very very interesting to see it from the hosts POV. Video is extremely well made, and I love the humble and humorous approach you took to word your thoughts and actions in this tournament.
    Thank you for putting it a lot of work into this even if against your will.

  • @Sllce
    @Sllce Před 8 měsíci +1

    7:00 Decided to do a tuyu themed one anyway. Even though it was tuyu themed it was mostly trying to find tuyu maps that fit and the way too long compilation for the TB. Was a 1 day tournament with a single map pool though so we didn't have that much struggles.

  • @donkbonk7961
    @donkbonk7961 Před rokem +2

    Mans spittin straight bars the whole way through

  • @galeathh
    @galeathh Před rokem +1

    I actually watched a saow video, now maybe I will one day watch another saow video, maybe in 5 years ❤

  • @donmatthew7877
    @donmatthew7877 Před rokem +1

    Oh man I wish I can participate in this tourney next time, this looks like such a fun and enjoyable time to have

  • @fd0t
    @fd0t Před rokem +1

    im a participant of dnbec2 and i had fun with my team during the tournament. now looking forward for 3rd iteration

  • @Goaw2551
    @Goaw2551 Před rokem +4

    i got called out

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem +1

      i couldn't tell if you were defending us or shit talking lmao

    • @Goaw2551
      @Goaw2551 Před rokem

      @@SaowAngel mostly shittalking haha

  • @Rezeee
    @Rezeee Před rokem +8

    Damn first 30 seconds felt like the start of an opening to some Drama, Mystery, School and perhaps even Romance Anime.
    When will you make your own TV Series man? I would totally watch an Anime made by Saow.

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem +2

      i will direct the first osu anime

    • @Rezeee
      @Rezeee Před rokem +1

      @@SaowAngel Lets fucking go

  • @megahello9029
    @megahello9029 Před rokem +2

    i have no recollection of saying (screenshot) badge :clueless:

  • @oilflanker
    @oilflanker Před rokem +1

    2:40 true poetry

  • @supernye
    @supernye Před rokem +2

    tourney went hard thank you mr saow osu (make dnbc3 (it surely won't get unbadged))

  • @thefakebazuso1280
    @thefakebazuso1280 Před rokem +1

    Hosting a tourney is a lot of work, especially if you want to Badge it. I recommend starting with a "fun“ tournament

  • @FridgeV5
    @FridgeV5 Před rokem +2

    1/10 most inaccurate osu video. Started touching grass and we all know no osu player knows wtf that is

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem +1

      I think i'm allergic to grass i've been itching a lot. I don’t recommend touch grass in the first place

    • @FridgeV5
      @FridgeV5 Před rokem

      @@SaowAngel that's a yikes from me chief

  • @hevilmateold
    @hevilmateold Před rokem +1

    osu! player touches grass and dirt? nahh it's CGI

  • @Vehauo
    @Vehauo Před rokem +1

    As one of the staff for both the tournaments (Dorgez, can spot me on 0:51 lol), we kinda had a lot of problems cause we haven't had anyone that would push everything, like in the first edition that person being Emrik.
    But nontheless, it was fun doing this stuff, cause we had some funny moments and I enjoyed them (Also sry for doing almost nothing both tournaments 😭)
    ALSO WHY DID YOU ADD MY STREAMING OF QUALS RESULTS AT 4:16 LMAO

    • @Vehauo
      @Vehauo Před rokem

      Also, banger video >w>

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem +2

      qual results was peak, of course i was gonna add it 😂

  • @wings8266
    @wings8266 Před rokem +1

    bros rhyming was fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🗣🗣🗣🗣

  • @ozzy265
    @ozzy265 Před rokem +1

    8:50 I feel offended… but then also blame me cuz I pooled them both 😂😂

  • @llezur2632
    @llezur2632 Před 10 měsíci +1

    is that a tuyu themed kb?

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Holy shit yes, someone noticed that 😳

  • @purpleflower1475
    @purpleflower1475 Před rokem

    i see diroytt
    anyways we appreciate what u did mush, hope u see u return :3c

  • @ozzy265
    @ozzy265 Před rokem +1

    2:24 aye I’m there 🎉🎉

  • @tplc8579
    @tplc8579 Před rokem +2

    i enjoyed the tourney

  • @mikelito0697
    @mikelito0697 Před rokem

    8:59 Man, those are really good feedback (most of it actually, __yosh' opinion on nm1 and nm2 feels kind of wacky).
    1 actually PRAISED THE POOL, not insulting it (it seems like you actually didn't read mappool feedback), second one it's pretty fine I guess? They didn't screw over or start insulting u.
    And 3rd guy actually made a valid point on the DT department (specially if DT2 AND DT3 being 10.3 that make no sense).

  • @courier__
    @courier__ Před rokem

    Fun fact that keyz guy is a friend I met irl xd

  • @jojoflower
    @jojoflower Před rokem +1

    Saow our beloved😊

  • @Meloons
    @Meloons Před rokem +1

    undertale ost bg 😭

  • @geoguessrplayer1
    @geoguessrplayer1 Před rokem

    Legend.

  • @kia_rah
    @kia_rah Před rokem +1

    mom they put my face on tv im famous now

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem

      Congrats you appear for 2 seconds woah

  • @shiruox_
    @shiruox_ Před rokem +6

    2:05 - I still think the backlash over mush was overblown asf, there were actual grievances with her as a staff and this part of it would NOT have been an issue had it not been a disliked player, kinda unfortunate
    7:36 - Nothing wrong with that :), as long as all skillsets are properly represented and none of them are overrepresented it's ok (polski feedback sucks though this mf will hate every pool below 6.7)

    • @shiruox_
      @shiruox_ Před rokem +2

      BRO WHY DO YOU HAVE ASUMI-CHAN MANGA IN PHYSICAL LMFAO, NOTHING AGAINST IT BUT XDDDDDDD

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem

      She wasn't a staff at the time of the whole drama, but people were treating it like it was her tournament for some reason as well as people didn't like her in the first place def escalated it. There was even another twitter post calling her a piece of shit cause they didn't like her jokes

    • @SaowAngel
      @SaowAngel  Před rokem

      it's actually pretty nice reading physical copies of ecchi manga

    • @kia_rah
      @kia_rah Před rokem

      @@SaowAngel not to mention some derankers got mad at her because she said she "didnt know who they were" which was funny af to me, the ego they had to be mad because someone didnt know who they were :tf:

    • @shiruox_
      @shiruox_ Před rokem

      @@kia_rah nah tbf she was being kinda disrespectful in that lobby i am not gonna lie lol

  • @Melerme
    @Melerme Před rokem

    omg wysi views

  • @yillowo
    @yillowo Před rokem

    yummy

  • @oxygenuwu2541
    @oxygenuwu2541 Před rokem

    YOOOO

  • @TG_Prophetia
    @TG_Prophetia Před rokem +1

    first!!!!!!