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where is Gollum :D
You should rank all the spells!
I know this video is a little older but i think youve done a really great job. I personally would put gloin bottom s tier and King dain into solid B tier. my reasoning for this would be that dwarfen gameplay is centered more around units wich makes an early hero start less important overall. brand just being too good of a range option and one of the best heroes in the game as well as a good counter for difficult early matchups for dwarfs. That for brand was played alot although the rest of dwarfen heroes are meant for midgame. Eomer in my opinion doesnt deserve an s tier because he was ONLY played for econ whereas azogh is actually a good fighter and more useful overall. Hed still be top A though as econ was definitely keeping men of the west kinda alive in competitive play. One could debate to put the flying nazgul to top of B tier because mordor has really good early econ wich makes them get them faster but on their own i think youre spoton
-And what is your superpower?
Shelob: I can trample builders
Did karsh dirty. He scales super well. Late game he can assasinate any hero, and his aoe damage ability can wipe out armies just by walking through them. No cast needed
i think Karsh is the only hero with colossal difference between lvl1 and lvl10
Agreed
Karsh is king
Faramirs usually my number one choice cos he's cheap and he ranks super fast and can defend your base for a long time because he kills so fast.
And pillage.
there is no chance for Faramir the Captain of Gondor to show his quality
LOL!
@@matteoooo4791 true
@Facepalm Full O' Napalm is that what you kids are calling it these days?
That was super insightful! I know you haven't seen her played as often , and I hope you get to more because :D I think Shelob is awesome , probably more so in 2v2 or more . She is 3000 to recruit, but she levels up fast, she gets away fast if needed, she can web a decent area of enemy units as well as cause terror and one of my favorite abilities she has is tunneling, she can tunnel up through enemy units and cause decent splash damage. She also takes down resources pretty fast depending on how leveled up they are. All in all, I guess I'd at least give her a C :) But I didn't go through all the effort of making this awesome list, you did! And I thank you again, was great to watch!
Absolutely do not understand your choice of putting King Dain in C. 8/10 times I'd choose him over Gimli. He is the only Dwarven hero with Leadership and buffed Dwarves are just unstoppable. He can almost kill any hero in 1v1 combat if they are not using and special abilities and is one of the best heroes against buildings as-well. No idea why we don't see him more often.
because he's expensive, immobile and buffing not always work (ravens)
Even as i play casually, i find him fragile / suicidal. He hasn't ton of health or armor, so goes down quickly. Other than that, i like him a lot, mainly for is lvl 10 summon power, though Leadership and Heal are also powerful.
Thanks for the mention to Morgomir. I think he's really good and underappriciated in terms of price-performance.
Thanks for your videos too, i am always on watch for your new castings
Thanks for your kind words brotha
I love having Boromir and Faramir together. they are both amazing and I love how they give leadership to normal units once they gain batti experience. both are much cheaper compared to Aragorn or Gandalf and great to have in early gameplay sessions.
Faramir commands the archers and Boromir the soldiers.
also, if you are a defensive player like myself, they are very good defending your base.
I think Shelob deserves to be in at least B or A tier due to how powerful and annoying you can be with her tunnel ability which can be either a great way of ambushing your opponent from there back line but it's also one of the best get out of jail free card where if she is about to die you can just tell her to tunnel away to safety plus she can climb hills and mountains which again you can use to your advantage to be a real pest to your opponent via hit and run tactics. (I've personally been watching TheDestroyer on Twitch using Shelob to great effect to devastate enemy ranger units who are being protected by pikemen)
Great video, my favorite is Mektar. Th at flaming sword is just so cool
Thank You for this video so much! I have waited for video like this, what can help me to understand, what heroes is more useful and cost efficient. Think it very important to new player like me.
Thank You for your videos, it's always a great job and great pleasure to see them!!
Wish to see more videos in what would be explained more hints about game, maybe some short, most useful guides for different fractions.
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Can't wait for the bfme1 tier list
i think faramir is the great hero to kill heroes with rangers. because enemy's heroes cant escape because of his lvl 2 skill and very cheap btw.
but also i liked it, nice video ^^
Nice video my friend but you forgot Frodo, Pippin, Merri, Sam, and Balrog. I think Balrog should be on A list and hobbits on D, except Sam who has little bit more attack than the others, so I would put him on C.
short question
have you ever done a video on creating custom heroes? explaining how the stats work and what goes well with what
if so would you mind pointing me in the right direction?
if not, that would be a REALLY interesting video to watch! haha
keep up the great content!
give them bonus xp/dmg ability, summon army, heal, horse or bow/sword swith and then for points spam them with hp and armor and put remaining in dmg
Max damage then vision, give them a bow, max arrow damage powers, use as a long range glass cannon.
8:58
Lurtz : What ?
I mean, you gotta love Gandalf tho ❤️
Would love more list videos
Thanks for the video! I think S-tier is not supposed to contain more than a few heroes. Really only the "game breaking" heroes should be here.
If summoned, Gandalf changes games, no? I think he’s at least on the level of witch king (B tier)
I really appreciate this video. It's amazing that this game has players, because I love this game. Btw there is a new patch? How long has it been out and where can I find it?
You can play age of the ring 7.0, great game..
unofficial 8.4 has been out for a while, just have a google.
Men have a lot of good individual heroes but the issue is that many serve very similar purposes so they are kind of competing with each other.
I totally disagree with Karsh. He is an A/S tier hero. You can wipe out tons of units just passing by, healing by attacking and teleporting on enemy ranged army and use howling blast and see the spectacle, or even using the teleport to run away from trouble. And as some people said, he can assassinate many heroes with his last skill.
Also I remember him dealing with army of the undead with that skill XD.
I cant zoom out 1.0.9 patch where can i download the bigmap?
Lurtz, Hwaldar and Eomer are my personal favourites for their ability to support my early eco. It almost matches my favourite factions (Isengart, Angmar, Dwarfs).
A question: Is there a trick to Sharku? He always dies first when I use him with my charge cav.
Sharku is pretty tanky against everything but pikes, avoid fighting pikes and try to harass the resource buildings to get exp for sharku. Once he is level 7 and has man eater available, he is a monstet
Great vid! Does anyone know when Rotwk HD will be released?
I don't agree with Eomer and Gothmog in S tier, but other than that it's pretty solid.
Great Video man, any hope of a tier list for 1.09 v2 also someday ? :D
Why does the all in one launcher not have ROTWK 2.02
What about ring heroes Galadriel and Sauron? 😃
Sauron, obviously
Nice one
Aragorn in a and elrond in c is nutcase behavior
I thought boromir didn’t have knockback in rose of the witch king?
7:00 some denethor vibes here 🤣
Please do one for BFME1
At the peak of this game, out of 45,000 rank, I was top 400. Got as close as top 50, and that was when I was 12-14 years old.
Maybe we can get you back and you can teach these newbies from nowdays a lesson by winning them in the tourneys ❤️
@@BeyondStandards I have the game. I don’t think I can play it at that level anymore. Lol
Is not Balrog count as a hero? Maybe a Power hero? And there is a mod game where Goblins can summon a nerf version of a Balrog which is really good.
those 3 dislikes are the Eowyn simps tho 🤣
seems balanced, seems reasonable
Put Grima very high on the list only for my boy Hisoka of Pirates
@@BeyondStandards 😂
Tomorrow? :( Waiting
Also:
I think Gandalf should be placed a bit higher. When you let MEN get some gold and they can afford Gandalf, this changes the game completely.
I wish I could place Gandy in the S but I have been making videos now for past 2 years and was only able to see him maybe twice... not enough data to place him any higher cuz he is very underused
@@BeyondStandards I think I will have to start playing these tournaments and show how to use him :D
Is this 2.01 or 2.02?
Trucky: WTF WhY TREEBEAED ISN'T S+++++ TIER?!!??!?!!?
Can you make on for bfme1 ?
My only complaint is legolas. He has such excessive range he can snipe siege equipment, and can punch down hero’s and monsters when in a brawl with lots of units. I would say mid A for sure
But he is very expensive for a weak eco faction like elves. Elves have the worst eco out of all factions in the game and will struggle most of the time to collect this much resources
What about Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin?
They were not in the list.
the witch king of angmar is top tier imo
Faramir on D wtf he is haldir of men he can backline giving leadership to archers or melee on sword / switch weapons top b
he is trash because his fire rate is too slow and does no damage, takes forever to level. a battalion of archer is better than him. If you need leadership. use Aragorn or Theoden. I agree with tier list but I would switch Wormtogue with Arwen and Elrond with Saruman. Those two only get used because Isengard has a lot of resources, not because they're strong.
@@dodang_9147 i cant understand what you mean by slow leveling. usually he is backing up with the archers and they share xp.
also a aragorn or theoden wont give leadership to the archers.
idk, if i use heroes for gondor then i always pick faramir and boromir cause of the leadership, the horn and the experiance boost for archers.
@@deformiertergolfball4847 his low attackspeed makes it hard to gain exp on him and he is functionally not worth the population or gold cost. your better off just buying more archers than buying him. I would rather have two rangers then recruit faramir. he is that bad.
Theoden is not a good melee unit so often you can just put him in the back to give leadership. i think he has that skill that grants exp to the units, so he can level your archer to 5 passively and give leadership to them. Theoden is good for horseman rushes but your not always doing that. so he can be throw away unit that grants leadership and passive exp by standing in the back when your not using horseman rushes.
I do not generally buy heroes but if I do buy them, for gondor, It would be boromir(budget aragorn), theoden, aragorn and gandalf if you have unlimited money. aragorn and theoden are probably most prefered. boromir is ok but he is somewhat of gimmick flank character where you put him in front and ambush people with his horn when having a range unit battalion in front of him. gandalf is good because his spells are like summoner-powers that clear units for you, but he is so expensive that it takes long time for his abilities to pay-off in gold income, as a result, he is almost never worth it unless your playing some super long game but at level 10, his word of power can wipe entire armies which is a lot of -gold for your enemy. Getting him to level 10 is different story altogether though. he is like ultra-late game investment that you rarely get to use fully.
@@dodang_9147 but if you say theoden is not good in attacking ( usually he isnt good in surviving too ) and then say faramir isnt good at leveling cause he is not good in attacking ( and also not in surviving )
but faramir is able to attack from range while theoden is not and then you would place theoden rather then faramir even tho faramir will level up faster due to his own range kills + the shared ranger/archer xp which is a lot. makes littarly no sence to me
i can agree on the point with gandalf. usually i dont play heroes but if i go with them i love boromir up front with his horn and leadership which basicly lets your pretty weak gondor melee units run over enemys like lawnmowers as i said i take faramir in the back cause he at least can do something + leadership.
theoden is a hero which i only pick in the rare occasion that i try to play with cavalery
everything else is just way to expensive. if it has to go fast at least.
my favourite is to only rely on units and give 0 fucks about heros, have units qued up and enough money to give them their upgrades.
@@deformiertergolfball4847 theoden is good because he has level 1 leadership. he can reinforce your calvery rushes on enemies resources. so for example you can send gondor horseman on farm's with theoden and his leadership will make you kill farms. if you ever played vs AI and how AI rushes your farms, Theoden is good at rush-farming strategies. Because of his leadership 1, he levels faster just by existing near army. When he is hurt and retreating, you can have theoden stand behind archers and give free leadership to the archers as he heals up.
The other gondor heroes, they need level up for leadership to occur. Theoden does not need to level up. he just stands there for free damage bonus. in late game, he has a skill where he can give exp to your units, so all your archers can just be level 5. Really only hero you should ever buy besides Theoden is Aragorn. Aragorn is strong siege unit. he can fight almost any hero. he has self-heal, he has run-away move. his level 10 is free summoner spell to destroy armies. His only drawback is that he is expensive but if you get a gold lead ahead of your opponent, buying Aragorn when enemy has no heroes is really strong. If he gets to enemy base and has arm mastery, he can siege productive buildings.
Gondor can buy heroes in games if they can get level 3 marketplace and buy the farming productive tech. gondor is rushdown faction but the units for gondor are not that strong. They play like Goblins, but Goblins are better at rushdown because goblin units such as Troll maruders and Troll Swordsman are much better melee units and the goblin do not need to buy marketplace. They get Scavenger ability for free, so they are naturally better at getting income compare Gondor.
You sound like Denethor talking about Faramir. In what way is the tier list not applicable to BFME1?
Who is the strongest hero tho if we don't think about cost?
Gimli overall or the Witch King (for non-hero battles) probably. Also Lurtz because of the huge advantage in the early game, later he becomes weaker.
BOROMIR: Since release, this hero is the most OP hero in the game. After all nervs, he is still the most op hero...his horn is ridiculous imba and so early available. His cost is sooo low. I play this game since release, im a full rts player, and i have never seen such an op ability like his horn......
Shelob and so should be way higher
yh i think so too. i think its one of the most disgusting heroes to fight. decent hp, decent dps, annoying abilitys like tunnel or the screech to fear enemys. idk if it was in vanilla or a mod but as i remember it was also able to run over enemy units like cavalery.
No Watcher in the Lake? lol
guys my game in russian languge how i can change t o english please help
Не надо ничего менять, играй на русском - нормальный язык.
Gimli cost 3000 oh that’s expensive but the fell beast also cost 3000 oh that’s cost efficient
if one summoned hero tom bombadil here so why others summoned heroes frodo, merry, pipin and sam are not here.
Heroes were a little overpowered in the game. Usually it's far better in the late game to have a group of heroes than any sort of large army.
lol no. i basicly play completley without heroes, since most of the time they are just garbage imo.
most of the time i just create my own hero only with leadership for low cost and thats it.
i have had so many matches in the past nearly 20 years and i always relied on a decent mixture of different units instead of heroes.
on the other hand i had opponents which went on and spend much money and cp on heroes but in late game they just die like flys.
the moment where your opponent for example has the better elven arrows, you can go and forget most heroes, since they are nearly oneshot.
i actually think most of the heroes are way to weak. i also nearly completley disagree with this tier list
Is this game going to see a rerelease anytime soon?
No
Sorry but sharku..... Is just.... Sharku
Dude, I think you're crazy. Boromir and Eomer in "S" and Legolas in "B"?? Legolas, actually the elves overall are super broken. Silverthorn arrows are soooo O.P. ....And Legolas has huge range, and can kill with single arrows units from battalions
Elves aren't that op. The mirkwood archers are with the silverthorn arrows but one cavalry unit is enough to take out a whole batallion, they don't even need an upgrade. They deal massive damage, but have super low hp (150) compared to most other units which have 300-400 hp, same cost units of other factions even have 500-600 hp without upgrades. Most cavalry takes those archers below 50% from trample only and after 1 melee hit they die. Spider riders don't even need to hit them, trample alone kills them already. Elves are all about huge damage but they have low hp and are therefore heavily countered by cavalry. Isengart can even spam uruk berserkers and absolutely crush melee elves. Every faction has it's strengths and weaknesses!
Doesn't matter the enemy unit. If it's horse or trolls, the point is that with silverthorn arrows they can't even get close.
Saruman is S tier.
He is expansive, yes, but that is not that big of a problem with Isengard.
And if you're protecting him, he's just sooo strong.
A bunch of trolls approach? Take control of them!
Your troops get sniped from the side be elven archers? Fireball!
Camouflaged elven qrchers with silverthornes? Lightningstrike!
And he's also good at buffibg your army.
Yes, Gandalf has much more mass slaying potential but he's more expansive And he's not as versatile.
And the mount ability is a wasted slot on him, even though shadowfax is iconic and belongs to Gandalf.
But overall Saruman is just the better wizard in this game, sorry not sorry.
Galadriel and sauron should be included
They were unfortunately not in the list which was given to me. Power wise they would dominate the list but in competetive games we always disable the ring heroes since they were bugging the game... they are very extension tho
Cost effective, not cost efficient
Tom Bombadillo is the best
Our good old tom 😎 I like him too
@@BeyondStandards thanks to your tutorial for the installation of the game I can play again as him 😎 you brought me back to my teenager years
Yea i agree. Hes always there when you are in a pickle and need an extra punch. Great early game
Sharku is the squishiest hero in the game. Get him in F category, useless 🤣
Nah, good for taking out resource buildings and a quick trample through units when a fight is happening. Uncatchable for all cavalry units except goblin spiderlings. Best utilized for crippling the opponents eco, not for hand to hand combat. Pretty good for such a low cost unit.
This feel biased because any hero is useful if used correctly and you put all the “expensive” hero’s at the bottom even though it’s supposed to be how good they are not how expensive they are
problem is, if they are expensive it can hurt your whole game.
like immagine you go and play gimli for example. he has barley any usefull abilitys, costs 3k and dies pretty fast if the opponent focuses him. also he only kills 1 enemy unit at a time, except he uses his jump which has a big cd.
he has no leadership, nothing to really crowd controll ( like borromirs horn ), not any supportive abillity for the rest of your army.
so now you payed 3k which you could have used for maybe a cheaper hero or unit upgrades, units
money management is also strategy
Gimli > Rest of the heroes.
We want to know the best heroes!! Not counting the cost or fckn whatsoever 😠
Thats a major part of the best overall hero. All the expensive guys are more powerful but that doesnt mean they’re best cause they take forever to get. And by that time you can be dead in games like this