The TRUTH Behind EG Demon1 vs NRG Demon1
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2024
- NRG was supposed to be a super team but has yet to make an international event this year with only Champions remaining. What is going on with NRG's world championship roster and their superstar player Demon1 that's causing them to fall way short of expectations? We're going to dive into the cold hard truth this video behind their issues and the REAL differences between EG Demon1 and NRG Demon1.
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Chet should’ve hired Platoon for that analyst position 6 months ago
True
so true
Lowkey...
Lmao
Fr
Boostio looks like he’s right… FNS really carried that Chet in strats and great midrounding
Boostio was right.... Chet is nothing without Fenis
@@user-ex7yq6xq9s dude really used a EG strat against EG 😂
@@bbqchicken8507 Chet was an already established Coach prior to FNS but could be right. The biggest difference really is Demon1 only really has impact on Jett. Raze meta and he can't even play Raze.
Yay carried and s0m. Fns did nothing
@@user-ex7yq6xq9swith fenis they were terrible too except that one fluke event in 2022 which they barely won
watching this has lowkey made me realize the difference between proplay and ranked
NRG playing like ranked xD
u melon
(It's the same)
@@novidadedodia2693 no? Even in immortal they don't have that type of chemistry or using utility as good as them
@@craftws3255get a joke will you?💀
this is pretty similar to how Tenz criticized himself and was criticized by people like sideshow. He himself said he didn't like and wasn't comfortable on hard entry roles and preferred 2nd entry and trading. I think this is probably how NRG need to shift, by either evening up duty or putting demon1 on a trading position more often.
Great point and he has also found the perfect role for that on SEN!
Tbh seems like every star duelist has their own downfall after winning: tenz, yay, now demon1
@@mwuahugz1115 aspas won a international event with load, but he is still fine, but deffo, ardiis, derke, Cned definitely downfall after jett nerf
@@torsyenlee2920 Aspas seems like the exception to the norm. He still manages to completely pop off even with "minimal" support, whereas the others crumble without a good IGL.
@@silentKeys20yeah, as Tex said: “aspas is the most self-sufficient duelist”
demon1 really needs teamates who he can trust and set him up for success. so sad to see the king of hell fall this far (like yay, as their current situations and playstyles are pretty similar). hopefully he finds a team that works together and supports his playstyle.
its so interesting how cryo's situation and stats were similar to demon1's as well, and i truly believe that the only difference between the two superstars is the teamwork and trust.
ur comparing demon1 to yay? yay fell off in every way possible while demon1 is still talented but is playing on a shit team
@@jordan-eh8ni demon1s tm8s are some of the best players in americas 3 former masters winners who have chemistry together and a good initatior
@@jordan-eh8ni Yay has a similar scenario. C9 dropped him for no reason.
@@jordan-eh8niit's actually exactly the same just demon1 got on a team with good players and yay didn't
@@ram1420 NRG core can't adapt to the new IGL cos they relied on daddy FNS for so long.
even though he isnt actually washed, its funny to call him "diamond 1"
Even his fans calls him diamond1 and semen1 lol
@@yoshiney okay semen1 is kinda funny
@@yoshiney aa his fan and it's funny to call him diamond 1
@@yoshiney lmao Semen1 is wild
@@extremelightning6115 As his fan, I just feel bad for how he went down due to whatever reasons. It's just like Yay. I can't see a good player go down drain because of bad teamwork.
you gotta wonder what would happen if boostio and demon1 played together again. i do believe he (and let's be honest, potter too) was the main reason why eg's team came together in the end
I also feel that boostio’s vibe and confidence gave Demon1 a lot more confidence as well. Feel like so far in NRG he looks/sounds so timid if you see the comm vids.
Yeah no. Boostio and potter has been on EG since 2021 and never had success until demon1 joined
@@PlatformRacer-ek7iq if u think that demon1 is the reason EG had any success. then why when demon1 join a team/roster that had a lot of success, the team crumbles?
@@anassn8384 lmao ur braindead. NRG issue is the igl not demon1. EG didnt qualify for a single event until demon1 joined
@@anassn8384 u cant prove me wrong. EG didn't qualify for any event until demon1 joined. now that he's gone, EG is back to being mid. also NRGs problem is their igl and coach, not demon1
very smart analysis on the type of player he is and the team dynamic, it makes a lot of sense why nrg have lost their way
Victor and Crashies were known as a duo because of their synergy between entry duelist + initiator roles... Honestly not sure why chet kept Victor and Crashies together on the team if he wasn't planning on maintaining their bond.
Great point! They were an amazing initiator + duelist combo back in the day.
Potter was w coach
coach diff fr
Clearly was Boostio tho, look at EG rn and 100T
@@wDandyy k but you realize potter swapped from the god team to just.... Jawgemo? Jawgemo is rly good, but she now has to find FOUR more people. Potter basically made some near nobodies become demons TWICE. You saw them beat NRG, which is notorious for only being able to clap bad teams. Potter is truly a genius, the best of her trade idk what ur yapping about.
@@aryanbanda5800 they didn’t make playoff buddy, beating nrg is not a good feat lmao.. look at all last year EG roaster. Boostio made a can team the best americas team. EG didn’t qualify. The potter glazing is unreal. Stats don’t lie
@@wDandyy You realise we're talking about an org who doesn't even want to pay to get any players, and so scraped together literal scrubs to play for them on minimums... like who tf is supaman and nature?
everyone wishes that peak demon 1 comes back, it made the game so fun to watch
Im just halfway through the video but when you mentioned that Demon1 gets thrown to the wolves in NRG, it reminded me of S0m's comment in one of the watch parties wherein he said something along the lines of "someone help him! Why are they letting Demon1 enter alone" There just seem to be a lot of rounds where he didnt have backup or a follow up.
Great analysis btw! The stats and comparison with Aspas' team dynamic really helped me better understand!
I got such a sense of deja vu towards the end of this video and it suddenly clicked when you brought up Demon1's similarities to Yay. Feels like the exact same scenario played out.
This is so applicable to Yay and cryo as well. Also shows how Aspas is really just built different.
Edit: Just reached the end and saw how you mentioned Victor and Yay as well. Apart from a team strat point of view, a pro entry shouldn't necessarily be the best headshooter. Look at how Jingg is super entry while hs are low, Less really poppin heads but is great at being a sentinel. Tenz is also another prime example really.
TBH it just may be the teams marketing sales points that cripple these cracked sharpshooters. They never thrived in delivering chaos, but survive d by being calm in the eye of the storm.
T1 and Zeta have the same problems but hell, thats another story.
yeah, aspas being hard entry and still giving a tremendous output is crazy.
yeah cause that's always been aspas' style which LEV integrated really well. other teams with Yay and Cryo just expected them to be hard entries when they weren't before 💀
I think it comes down to Chet. A different coach would work better along with a true igl to enforce team culture
Why he was so good with EG -
He got given a chance at a tier 1 team that was ranked last in Americas at the time. He got that bulldog mentality where he got nothing to lose and can only go up. At the time, he was also getting closer to his current fiance(Katarina) and I'm sure that helped him mentally. Wins by wins, EG build up their momentum and chemistry which eventually got them a champions win.
Why he sucks with NRG -
So much pressure to perform in a completely new environment. New teammates and coaching staff to work with. Becoming his teams main duelist while he was more of Jett only duelist and smoke player in EG. The coach(chet) that hasn't really been as proactive as potter(EG's coach) in recent time. To make it worse, his fiance is currently having severe health issues.
just watch the video dawg
It's not a movie bro game has technicalities
what is blud waffling about
@@dsa0decoded mental deffo also plays into it, demon1 going from no expectations for his performance on one of the worst teams in americas to having all eyes on him after his infamous "im the best player in the world" win pushes immense pressure on him to perform as well on the new roster
@@dsa0decodedare you a fucking robot? mental is everything. stay iron
I am so glad you have talked about this, I really wanted to hear your thoughts on it. Keep up the great work Platoon.
Great analysis! It's hard to notice these things as a casual player, so your analyses are very helpful :)
demon 1 is also goign though a lot in his life like his gf katarina going through medical struggls daily. im not saying it accounts for his performance but it does probably play a factor.
anyone know the details?
@@abyss7708she has something called RA (type of arthritis) that causes bone erosion. Really horrid thing to have.
@@elliotpickering3043 I hope she recovers and becomes healthy.
Cut the shit
Her only fans go crazy
We can't forget his aim. The difference is night and day. I know it's not really something you can talk about in a video like this but some of his plays in 2023 heavily relied on his aim and it's just kind of gone. Could be because of the things happening in his personal life, or the pressure that's on him.
nah bro, If your mental is not stable; ur aim gonna bad just like him.
well u need confidence to have good aim and theres no way u can play confident with trashies and c0cktor as your supporting players 🤣look what happened to ardiis last year
well yeah katarina is having health problem and he doesnt have that confidence like on eg
its a different meta as well. its a raze meta, raze players arent necessarily your best aimers on the team because of the plays they have to make. and chet putting him on raze its just terrible. thats why you see guys like Less, Mako, Eeiu, N4rrate etc playing support roles because they can get into aim duals
much like when demon1 was playing more brim and astra
His aim might look worse but its also because hes being thrown into situations where he needs to watch 3 or more angles at once, as a second entry, or lurker, youre focus lies on a few angles, whereas being solo entry, your focus is just getting onto site. the entry should be giving the team the opening to follow him onto site, he shouldnt be fighting alone vs 3 people
and its also a mental thing, momentum plays a huge part in winning gunfights, if you’re dying a lot, each gunfight suddenly feels a lot more stressful, which can mess with calm aim a lot
0:28 nahhhh the slow-mo on that shot is crazy
Insane video, love your editing style and the numbers really help show the emphasis on clear issues in the team. Please keep making these!
Holy shit i just realized how much similar cryos current role is compared to 2023 demon1. And its working. Boostio utilized both mechanically insane players perfectly. Bro replaced jawgemos role with asuna and demon1s role with cryo
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Another great video, Platoon. I'm looking forward to the next one! ❤
This analysis was superb, sub worthy!
I really admire your skills to identify mistakes on this level. Really takes a lot to be able to do that.
INCREDIBLE VIDEO, A LOT OF STATISTICS. so perfect, watching all this correlation is awesome GREAT ANALYSIS keep the content dude
Another Platoon banger has come upon us
It's a shame what happened to him; was really exciting to watch him play when he was on EG. Now they're just benching him while going back to s0m and FNS.... Great analysis, very informative.
Great video, seems like a ton of effort was put into the investigation, thank you
Finally seeing this video from you is like getting a piece of evidence into court that fully solidifies my verdict
You have to be one of the best competitive valorant analyst channels i’ve stumbled upon. Deserve a lot more recognition within the scene!
this was so nicely structured, well done
first time watching your videos and you definitely know how to properly pin point every single detail. Got a sub
this video is amazing man, you definitely should be hired as an analyst
Bro, It's so cool to watch your analysis! Nice video
One of the best analysis ever. Such a great idea to look into and compare first engagements for these calm aimers.
What an insanely accurate analysis. great work i used to tell my old team this but they all thought the same as current NRG, only have duelist take 1st engagements or they are baiting. Very glad to see some numbers showing the complete opposite for what an actual team dynamic is supposed to look like when winning.
Very insightful. Crazy how similar he is to yay
Im actually convinced by the info and hard work you put it
CZcams suggested this video and after watching I have realised so many things. I'm not a huge fan of demon1 but kinda felt sad for his performance this year and didn't knew what went wrong, after watching this video got so much info about teams, coordination, strats, agent pick etc. Appreciate this video ❤
i always get so happy when i see an upload
this is a really good analysis, im going to apply to my own teammates for our premier matches
demon 1 isnt bad anymore, its just nrg isnt a good team
Thanks captain obvious
His aim is a lot more shaky, can’t play raze - he is bad, but his peek was so good he just seems like a regular player
@@peanutbutter6165 i think its because they're too relying to Demon1 to solo entry and do impossible things as this video explained.
@@peanutbutter6165watch the video. He isn't a hard entry player, of course his aim is shaky, he's under pressure knowing his team isn't gonna do shit to trade him or even help him. Either he does a miracle play or gets clowned on. NRG can't teamfight. That's been clear since 2023
@@speedforce8970 didn’t say anything about entry, where do you get that? I’m just saying individually his aim has been shakier, even when not entrying
This shows how he really knows what he's saying. Like wow I've been a fps nerd especially on valorant but some of the factors you mentioned never even crossed my mind. Good job for this really well thought of video.
Very nice informative and logicall analysis from u. W points and statics used 🙏🔥
Wow these are some great videos. Hope your subscriber count keeps going up and up!
Also Jawgemo played Omen in many maps, meaning he may have been the dominant first entry even when they played double duelists
This analysis was amazing. Ur getting a sub for this.
Finally someone explained the situation so well Thank you ❤
Bro that was an insane analysis. Thank you
beautiful analysis sub deserved
good video platoon! May i suggest a video idea of a deep analysis of Forsaken's agent pool? maybe you can analyse his transition from a jett-yoru only player in 2022 into being a flex god in 2023/24
Definitely an interesting idea that I'll consider thanks! No promises though haha
@@platoonval 👍
@@platoonval maybe you can also cover his creativity with agents like harbor cypher or recently, his breach
I never realized the correlation between 100T, EG, and NRG. It's actually scary how well it works as well. 100T picked up the brains behind last years EG (except Potter), and are now playing similarly to that team. Wow
Really think you should have pointed out Boostio as the common denominator for both Demon1 and Cryo. He plays like a secondary engagement player, which gave D1 and Cryo the opportunity to play to their styles.
Amazing analysis ❤ appreciate
I like it how u could just make the exact same video about optic yay and dsg/bleed yay since all should apply to him aswell
thank you so much for making this video at first i thought that demon1 was bad after he swapped the team to nrg with the old optc core, now i actually open minded to how different playstyle affect the performance of the player like demon1
A video explaining all the subsidiary roles on a team would be really interesting.
Sick analysis ty 🙏
this is a very well put together video
Feeling sad for my goat 🫠🫠
Hope he gets back stronger 🤝❤️
Really great video. I think this is a great explanation. I think they have the talent to fix their problems.
Fantastic video Platoon!
Whos here after they got s0m and FNS lol
Thats basically what ive been feeling like since they signed them, i never knew how to say this but this seems so logical to me
I already watched your vid the moment it came out but i didnt expect it to blow up so fast!
Comment for algo lets get it half a million views this week🎉🎉🎉
So glad you brought up Yay. Optic’s signature style was inserting Yay chamber and letting him take 1v1s and lurk. It’s true that the play style doesn’t work nearly as well anymore with Chamber nerfs and teams getting better at handling it but it’s crazy that Chet doesn’t see the parallels here.
I absolutely love your videos. As a data analyst student myself I understand how difficult it is to extrapolate the underlying factors from superficial data. I really admire your works. If possible can you attach your works with some github links or something
I love how you broke down more than just Demon1 but how to play Valorant as a whole in the case of a Duelist and even other roles. This was very informative and I know I can take a lot out of it
god your videos are so good
I wonder if this applies to Ardiis too considering he is playing well on Navi with zyppan and ange1.
Bruh holy shit such a W video. This guy needs to become a coach. such a detailed analysis!
im js halfway thru the video but ig another reason why demon1 shouldn't be heavily relied on for entry is bec his aiming style relies a lot on first shot accuracy (idk how to explain it but for reference go and watch his latest vid where he played a lot of dms then ig you'll understand what i mean). compare it with how something aims, itll be a very big difference w demon1.
Very good analysis man
it took me forever to realize how technical valorant is. Believe me i know the fundamentals of competitive esports, but videos like this just pushes everything at another level. Amazing video and dedication man!
this is what I found so confusing with NRG. I noticed this issue to a lesser extent, but it isn't one that NRG has necessarily had issues with before. NRG/Optic has used a Jett/Senti hybrid player in the last 3 iterations of the roster, in Yay, Ardiis, and now Demon. Why did the rest of the team suddenly forget how to play with this type of role? I think picking up a true IGL will help a lot as they can properly utilize that role like FNS was able to.
Same thing was happening with Tenz, he said that he always shined in the second entry role and during Reykjavik Sick was the true entry and he was second in, and when he became the first entry he struggled because it wasn’t his play style
100T is a no joke anymore. Love to see Sung Jin Woo... i mean Cryo excel even more with that roster. This is a good analysis. 100% All of the teams stated should take notes on this.
W video. I loved that you touched on yay too
Ya i agree demon1 have the same playstyle with yay but they need demon1 to have calm aim that he used to have and they to change they're agent comp so that demon1 can have more time to reposition and find pick off that he used to . Ty bro Nice vid btw SHEEEEEEEEEEEEESH!
Its just my oppinion so
comment and liked, actual good analysis
this is the same exact problem with yay on bleed, they don't need yay on raze all the time, just get someone aggresive that likes to entry and have yay just be chamber/sentinel/or maybe even follow cryo and go smokes, and have him as an insert-jett player on jett maps
It’s a team game nobody is a superstar alone. Valorant is such a complicated game and usually the ones that are winning are the ones with the best cohesion not necessarily the most mechanical. It’s kinda cool to see a players style broken down tho.
with his aimig style and his super low sens it is impossible to create the same amount of space and take first contacts like aspas or jawgemo
It's crazy how you found this pattern
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Excellent video, would you say tenz on duelist was in a similar situation to nrg and hence he played so bad last year?
Amazing analysis man
4:06 Tbh this could also be applied to yay's situation. In his optic prime he played chamber and wasn't considered to be the first guy that entered, instead he just played behind his team. I don't understand why people find it weird that he failed to find success in his duelist role these days.
Haven’t watched yet. Know this gonna be a banger.
Great analysis bro
🔥 great analysis
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1:00 man that jawgemo's ace is just so good.
What an analyse respect
This is why Aspas keeps getting so much value
Why aren’t there like pro player agent/analysts to provide these pro players with teams that they have the best chance at success with??
what is don't understand is why do nrg and optic core play so passive, when in this current meta being proactive is the norm.