I never thought I’d do this
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- Rules:
1. Only my starter in battle
2. No items in battle, except held items
3. No glitches, exploits, or save states
4. No movepool evasion-boosting moves before level 100*
Rule details:
-- I make no attempt to have the exact same rule details between generations.
-- I am allowed to manipulate my starter
-- I play the game at 4x game speed
-- For fair comparisons my Pokemon have perfect (or near perfect) DVs / IVs
-- I am allowed to catch HM users - I can use all field moves
-- Evasion boosting is allowed if the move is not obtained from the Pokemon’s movepool. For example, using Mimic or Mirror Move to boost evasion is allowed.
-- Surge's trash-can-puzzle is automatically solved
-- The bike is allowed in gen1 & 4, banned in gen2, and allowed only to bypass terrain in gen3
-- Saving between league members is allowed
-- I can pause the game and timer to take breaks
-- Items obtained with the ability Pickup can only be used if the starter obtained them
-- The footage is sped up & slowed down to match the pace of my narration
These Rule details apply only to generation 1:
-- All battle-mechanic glitches are allowed (glitches that occur outside of battle are banned)
-- In generation 1, I'm allowed to skip Marowak with the Poke Doll
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If you're new around here, Venomoth is a Psychic/Flying type, you can't change my mind. - Hry
I can't be the only one who thought this would be some gimmick playthrough where he somehow uses the (?) glitch mon in whatever form that entails
You were not.
I was all ready to crack a joke about it too
Something like, "when you pick Random in a fighting game but end up playing as an actual floating question mark"
I thought so too since I think people have done MissingNO. playthroughs in Gen 1. Not sure if the (?) glitch mon learns any moves, though.
If you have the ? As a Pokémon it has 0 hp and if it it crashes the game I believe
@@bluethemew9273You could probably up an underflow glitch to get around that.
Let's all raise a glass to Scott for doing playthroughs like this for the science so we don't have to do it. What an absolute slog.
Your sacrifice won't be in vain. 🥃
But I never would. If I want to hurt myself I'll do different things that don't take as long.
Scott: "You are, without a doubt, the worst Pokemon I have ever beaten Emerald with so far."
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Nosepass: "Ah, but you DID beat Emerald with me."
Also, so far. There's still Wurmple, Shedinja, Wynaut, Azuril, and Aron could be pretty bad too.
Azuril will be *fine* it’s a normal type with high attack and return. It will probably be stupidly frail and bad in terms of fully evolved Pokémon but not a nightmare.
@@felipeandrade6434 Feebas is on the table. 200 Base Stat Total, with 55 Special Defense and 80 Speed making up the lion's share of its stats.
One of those instances where I don't think that it's possible to complete. Even though, unlike Magikarp, it does get access to a sizeable array of good moves like Surf, Ice Beam, Blizzard, Return, Rest, and Toxic.
I kinda love when they give pokemon an honorary typing. Nosepass is an honorary Electric type, like how Butterfree is an honorary Psychic type, or Venomoth is an honorary Bug.
Don't forget Scyther and Ledian being honorary Normal types, hehe
Lol, does that make Gyarados both an honorary Dragon and Flying type? Dragon because it's obviously designed to be a dragon and has the moves. And Flying because it may be Flying type but they forgot to give it any moves (Hurricane doesn't count).
Venomoth is actually an honorary fire/dark type
@@conorg4713 No that's actually just Venomoth's typing
I think that just makes him a lousy flying type lol @user-dz7jz3wv7k
The slow zoom onto the goofy catfish while talking in a serious tone was just soooo funny to me.
TBH, Whiscash probably does well here. I used it in a Nuzlocke once, and it turns out Poor Man’s Swampert is still basically Swampert. People don’t realize just how much the goofy catfish brings to the table.
@@evilvitamin I meant the imagery. Just goofyness contrasted with the seriousness in Scott's voice.
THIS IS THE GREATEST VIDEO OF ALL TIME(no bias)
None at all
❤😂😊
Hi Scott! Hidden Power Bug would have improved your matchup against Tate and Lisa since it would be super effective against their Claydol, Solrock, and Lunatone. Rock and Ground don’t resist Bug, which is one of the corners of the type chart I have to remind myself of. Hidden Power Bug also maintains super effective coverage against the demon Ludicolo and, as a bonus, can deal more damage to Sidney’s team and Steven’s Cradily and Claydol if the move routing works out.
Fellow Rock-type Tyranitar uses Hidden Power Bug commonly in Generation 3 OU competitive single battles on Tyranitar to hit Celebi (for 4x damage) and Claydol (since it withstands Rock Slide + Earthquake very well).
Hopefully this move can point Nosepass’s new playthroughs *in a new direction*! Because Nosepass is a compass…and points in directions…hah
Oh god, I saw the thumbnail went "Its nosepass isn't it?" then started watching, got baited into thinking you were doing dewgong or crawdaunt and then it was nosepass all along. You have bamboozeled me today
When I saw the thumbnail I thought he would use the actual ? gen 3 MissingNo. equivalent glitch mon
How did you get it from the thumbnail?
@@IndexInvestingWithColehe’s full of it.
@@IndexInvestingWithCole Worst mon yet. I immediatley thought of the worst gen 3 mon I could and nose pass came to mind
He already used Crawdaunt and it's in S tier, look 44:09
Venomoth Fact #36: Venomoth takes a very active role in the movement to stop poachers using the noses of Nosepass in fancy expensive compasses.
Definitely a True Venomoth Theory: PokeHistorians speculate that once extinct fossil of a bygone era, Armaldo was the distant ancestor of Venomoth. The "Proto-Type" to all "Multi-Type" pokemon, like Venomoth, out there.
Scott, please dont take this the wrong way, but watching you play through miserable challenges is so entertaining for me
Nosepass vs Onix will be like:
The slowest pokemon in the history vs the slowest pokemon in the present
The production on these videos are getting so good! The venomoth as an arrow, the nice numbers throughout, the tips that pop on screen, and your voice over has been more lively and interactive! I'm sure it takes a toll on you and your team, but it has not gone unnoticed!
Having Eggsceptional as a third member of the team has really changed everything. There is definitely more financial obligation having a three person team but creatively it’s been really freeing for me.
What a bait and switch at the beginning!!
Spoilers jeeze
Nosepass is a design that's really grown on me over the years. When I was playing Sapphire as a kid, I really thought its foot was it going "ooo"
I love the subtle puns/ double entendres. The "but I was *shocked* by the champion's magneton" really satisfied my brain
The little "oofs" and frowny faces cracked me up
I think Magnet Pull has more utility against Steven. It means he can’t switch Skarmory out for Claydol.
My favorite game to play with Scott's videos is whenever i hear him say nice, I look back at the screen to find the 69.
I'd by a coffee mug with something about damage rounding threshold on it.
Something like
"Coffee brings me past the next damage rounding threshold"
Could be fun.
This guy gets it.
Bump
Ten times out of ten would I invest in Scott's thoughts about damage rounding thresholds. This was a painful delight to watch. Thanks for the effort and patience!
My man, lack of a 2nd playthrough is totally understandable. That would be a threat to your health in more ways than one. Cheers for the endurance.
2:09 The arrow that turned into parts of an electric ghost type did not go unnoticed.
Great Arceus... THAT versus video will be something to behold.
I can't put my finger on why, exactly, but this feels like one of your best voiceovers yet.
I'm putting a lot of thought into improving the voice overs! Glad it's showing.
Honestly I think the best strategy against Steven is gonna be fishing for defense drops with rock smash…
Going in with a set like: harden, rest, rock smash, hidden power ghost. Using as many pp increasing items as you can.
Was gonna suggest the same thing. Same PP as thunderbolt but can actually make some momentum against the Claydol and save your Rock Slide PP. Combine with Harden and Rest and you might actually be able to grind erode Steven's team down
@@woowchocolate30the reason I recommended hidden power ghost is because it’s probably the best physical attack to use against Steven. It’s super effective against Claydol, neutral against Metagross, Armaldo, and Cradily.
Aggron resists it, but it’s 4x weak to rock smash. Only thing you’d have to worry about is Skarmory, luckily that’s his first mon, so it would have faster resets if it gets too many defense boosts.
Also it has higher pp than moves like earthquake or rock slide.
@@TipOfTheSaucedo you know what iv spread he'd need for ghost though?
@@sparkypikachu7776in gen 3 onward it’s all 30s and 31s practically no effect on your stats
In gen 3 specifically ghost would be 31/31/30/31/30/31
A damage rounding threshold shirt would be fantastic for one’s dating life. You would immediately filter out people who aren’t cool enough to know what it means or not sufficiently interested in you to hear about your interests.
Quality over quantity!
If I weren't so lazy, I'd also do a Nosepass run. But even thinking about the challenges to overcome and being a r o c k - type makes my brain hurt.
I can't wait to see your experience --and most likely-- descent into madness!
Damn, Scott, I would have given up at the 4:30 mark! Your masochism for our entertainment is laudable.
It’s fortunate that in Gen 9 Nosepass got a past paradox form, Great Nose, to boost its viability in the competitive scene.
This comment is jimothy cool coded
Neat. Man I wish I got to play part 2 of the SV dlc. Lost my switch 7 days before it came out
This is insane.
@@DkKobaADV it’s Nosepass Naturday, folks.
"In some cases, this would be an advantage. But not today. Not when you're playing with a Nosepass."
Idk why but I absolutely LOVED the way that you said that, haha!
I'd take a Damage Rounding Threshold shirt.
You should eventually forward port Gen 1 Mewtwo. Make both its special stats the same and change Amnesia to raise both special stats by 2.
True Mewtwo.
I really appreciate the intro with the context of your previous experiences setting the tone, and then wrapping it up with the comparisons to other specific mons on the tier list. Any data is more interesting and more easily understood when accounting for the human experience.
Hopefully, one day there will be redemption for Seel. 🙏 Perhaps in Generation IV, when it finally learns some STAB moves by level up.
Oh god, I did a Nosepass run casually for "fun"... Pain was the result. It's hilarious how bad it is against every gym leader.
Yup
All the Nosepass line has for it is that Probopass is good in some limited cups in Pokémon Go.
I've never been so early to a video, so I just wanted to say that I absolutely adore everything you make! You deserve more credit for the work you do, it obviously takes a lot of time and effort but you somehow have only 70k subscribers. I just know you're going to grow and I'm excited to see that happen for you.
Gotta say, the bait and switch with Lunatone and Solrock was worth the entire video. Keep on keeping up Scott!
The edits whenever you run into a wall are funny. I love them.
May I just say, I love the little animations for the intro of each major battle! They are fantastic!!
I watch the opening, but for the sake of the algorithm "something something Study blocks only one hit KO moves in gen 3"
He should have picked the root fossil for that reason too.
You're incredible for the amount of patience this took! This was even slower than I thought Nosepass would be.
Before watching the video, (beyond the intro) I'm going to guess at some point he has to use a stall strategy. (Toxic / Protect?)
Thank you for your service Scott, your time and effort are greatly appreciated.
Onix will be much worse I think. And that scares me.
It scares me too
@@ScottsThoughtsPokemonAt least it can outspeed things.
Time to introduce the "shouldn't finish" tier
I legit thought you were gonna run Emerald with Missingno. 😂😂😂
My pokemon addiction usually comes in waves. Then I stumble back onto yours and Jrose's channel, and I do nothing but have your videos up in the background as I work. Keep up the good work!
You should use the term “Seel of disapproval” for anytime you feel like something underperforms.
The fact that Scott has mentioned Gen 5 more and more as of late makes me think that, by December or January of 2025, we'll get Gen 5 challenges.
The same thing happened with Platinum, Scott started mentioning it and showing the box art on screen more and more on the months previous to the first Platinum video
Something to note yesterdays live stream he talked an lot about BW, even how he’d do both Black and White 2, by doing Bladk for BW and W2 for BW2 for thumbnail synergy
Scott starts his new game series’ on 25th December. He pretty much outright said on stream the other day that he would continue doing this. The next chronological game in the series for him to take on would be HGSS, but I agree with you that he has been hinting a lot at BW lately and it might make more sense to go with that before adding another remake game to his repertoire (though I hope he will do HGSS too someday). It’s very likely to be one of those 2 anyway, and you can look forward to it on Christmas Day!
@@Cream147player Maybe Scott will do HGSS the same way he did Fire Red and Leaf Green
BW is going to be painful for certain Pokemon because of the unique Gen V EXP system. Pickup Lillipup is going to be the unfortunate tech, probably.
@@dvillines26 True. Medium Slow Pokémon will get an even bigger advantage
Bro I’ve been following you from the beginning. I absolutely love your content. You’re amazing, keep up the good work!!!!
Can't believe I've been watching you so many years already. How time flies.
This video should be sponsored by BetterHelp because this is therapy worthy
I literally only got this Pokémon a couple of years ago in my childhood copy of Ruby. I never even considered the method of getting it before I looked it up.
Hey Scott I watch these with my partner and when you mentioned the merch about Damage Rounding Threshold I turned around and looked at them like and they laughed. So I don't need to worry I will 100% be getting one if it comes out hahaha. Also damn nosepass is insanely bad.. I genuinely think Onix would do better just because the speed stat would help significantly with setting up substitute etc!
1:13:00 remember, you did seel on pokemon yellow, a shorter game compared to gen 3 and beyond
I bet Seel will do better in Emerald than Nosepass 😅
As much as I dislike Probopass, I've grown to love Nosepass from the runs I've done themed around "bad" single-stage mons (or what were single-stage). It was the favorite of my first playthrough like that, making good use out of a randomized Vital Throw TM. The thought of the weird little Moai head waddling over to an enemy and chucking them into the sky never stopped being hilarious.
Missed opportunity to say “I’m level 69 so realllly nicely leveled”
When i first clicked i thought u would lose. This is amazing dedication. I would have quit in fustration. Great job !
Nosepass winning by using Struggle is *so* thematically appropriate.
I'm in love with the editing that takes a lot of time and love 🥰
Also, emerald is my favorite game, it was the first one I played, so many memories, I imagine why yellow is so special for you
Also, the analysis is nuts, I love it
I haven't had time to watch so I held off on this one thinking it was some glitch run. I've been waiting for this run, but they thumbnail threw me off. I literally clapped when you revealed Nosepass.
This is wonderful, but I have IDEAS.
First, yes, holy cow you should have rollout for Steven. It solves pretty much the entire elite 4 (besides Wallace). At the rate you're going, it essentially has 100% accuracy (you'll just reset if you miss).
You also missed out on using PP Up. That's definitely an option. But I will say HP training was DEFINITELY the right decision. That gargantuan defense means little without a maxed out HP value.
Of course, you should save all your rare candies - don't ever use one when they're is a single trainer anywhere, including the trick house, left to fight!
I think you're going to be very happy if you go Adamant. Shock Wave and Thunderbolt solved no problems for you that couldn't have been solved by either leveling up (in the mid game, battling trainers that you eventually had to battle anyway) or Rollout (late).
Finally, for hidden power I think it's obvious that you can do better. The three psychic Pokémon on the twins' team that gave you trouble all have two physical weakness: Bug and Ghost. I think Bug is probably superior since it has more utility if you choose to keep it for Steven. It also really helps against Sydney.
GL HF and I'm looking forward to the remake 😃
As for suggestions to consider... you could use Hidden Power fire to beat the Skarmory and hit the Claydol neutrally or use HP water to hit the Skarmory neutrally and smash the Claydol, depending on which one is the bigger overall threat, Ice sounds good, but it's resisted by the Aggron and Metagross so if the only trainer you're trying to solve with it is Steven it probably makes sense to pick the type that hits more of his team at least neutrally.
On the topic of onix vs nosepass, onix does actually have 2 major advantages that might be relevant. It is much faster with 70 base speed so it might outspeed even with a speed lowering nature considering the level it needs to grind to, and it gets stab earthquake which against neutral targets is going to be about 50 percent stronger than return.
Roxanne will also be much faster to get past with access to Bind and Screech.
Enjoyed all the visual gags in this one. Something nice for those who are paying attention!
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When I heard you were going to do this chalenge on the Dragonite stream I knew Wallace and Steven would be very tough, I'm gonna enjoy this so much
Don't spoil shit bro
@@austinvanschoubroek1712they didn’t spoil anything.
I did not expect to see a Jurassic Park reference shoved in this video, but I do appreciate it. Also you really decided to go for another rock-type after Onix, huh? You poor soul.
Also droooopped my balllssss!
definitely a hard run for sure and I knew there was a reason I never used nosepass in gen 3 I've never used one ever and it might be good with a team but idk but thanks for the great video and I appreciate your hard work and I'm sure your tired and exhausted after that long of a video keep up the great work always enjoy these
Dang. The seel effect does need a new name. My poor boi doesnt need the slander lol.
Keep up the great work as always!!
-number 1 seel fan
I predicted nose pass after last weeks video and I said yikes, only being able to do one playthrough is understandable, this thing was BAD worse than I expected to begin with. And planning a VS video with it and Onix geez, best of luck to you keeping your sanity brother.. Thanks for the fun content as always.
Thanks for the video I can watch while I wait for a locksmith while I’m locked out of my car
Ugh that sucks, glad I can entertain you a bit to pass the time
Nosepass may have been painful, but the video turned out divine.
Excellent video as always =)
Looking forward to both of the versus videos mentioned at the end, but no rush getting to the awful one =P
Nosepass of all pokemon suffering from 4 move slot syndrome so badly in a solo run is incredible.
I’d for sure buy a “damage rounding threshold” T shirt, though I still don’t really know what it means lol
31:40 Something that still applies even nowadays is that they don't realize when you have a certain ability, even if it's the only ability the Pokémon has.
The venomoth head replacing the arrow for just a second got me good.
Nosepass v Slackoth v Ditto v Shedinja, a battle for the ages (because it causes Scott to physically age)
Aw man, I thought you were going to do a run with Gen 3's Missingno.
by the time Gen 3 rolls around, there sure are a lot of pokemon that at least on the surface look Impossible, old classics like Magikarp, Probably Sunkern, and Wobbafet, but also new stuff like Wynaut, the Regi Trio, and Probably Beldum
thank you scott for continuing to make videos for these challenge runs 🥰🥰🥰
Get the editor a raise for the scar cameo at 1:28
As soon as I see Scott upload everyone nose I cannot pass it
Something to note, since I haven't ever seen you do it, is that there are trainers you can fight if you fall in the ice in the 8th gym, which will be relevant when you do your Nosepass vs Onyx video haha.
I really thought this would be a missingno run due to the thumbnail lol
😅 that was so painful that I was hoping you'd at least get the chance to use a decent Pokemon near the end just to have a relaxed run. Cant wait for the next one now.
lol I love the idea of a "Best of the Worst" VS video, I'll have to order some pizza for that one!
This is looking like it will be quite the run (I'm only 15 minutes or so in but wanted to make sure I commented for the algorithm). I called Wattson would be difficult when you were foreshadowing - I would have been surprised if it had been the rival.
Scott. You had block and you let an abra get away. You even mentioned you shouldn't make pokéballs 100% because some have advantages.
Block is an advantage for catching an Abra D:
I think Thunder might be the move. It looks like it 1-shots Skarmory. Thunderbolt just doesn't do quite enough damage.m
Another consideration might be a set like this: Defense Curl, Rollout, Rest, Taunt.
Taunt the Skarmory, Defense Curl to +6, Rollout, reapplying taunt when necessary. A lot of the problem seems to stem from getting poisoned by Skarmory, being an automatic 2-turn loss from Rest because you MUST clear toxic. Crits are gonna happen, but Toxic *consistently* messes you up. If you taunt it, it can no longer do such things and is stuck attacking using its terrible offense. But I think there's a problem with rollout strats. See, the first chain probably is a 3-shot on Skarmory, then a 1-shot on Armaldo, then a 1-shot on Cradily. Then Aggron comes out who resists rock when you're just going to start a new rollout chain and starts using Solar Beam.
You can tank 1-2 solar beams and that might get you through aggron with your 5th rollout coming out for Claydol or Metagross. With all that in mind, I don't know if rollout gets you there either. And it's certainly not going to be consistent, as hitting 10 90%s in a row is quite a low chance at only 3%. Nosepass is quite the puzzle.
Another option would be Swagger in the place of Taunt. Boosting the opponent's attack and having them self-inflict could be quite good for Nosepass with harden being available to counter increased attack stages from the opponents. Of course it also comes with some danger. Confusion also has the added benefit of sometimes forcing random moves from AI opponents, thus causing them to sometimes just choose bad moves.
Solarbeam... That has got to be one of the stickiest situations Ive ever seen..
Huntail vs Gorebyss (or these done individually) are what I'm waiting for. These Pokemon need more love
Great video Scott! Only thing I’ll say is I didn’t click initially because of the thumbnail. I thought it was going to be a goofy modded run with Missingno or something lmao
this is an informative comment about type matchups
Grass beats ground, wooder, rock
Dragon beats itself
Ice beats dragon, flying, grass, ground
Poison beats bug, grass and fairy
Fairy beats dragon
Fighting beats rock, steel, normal
Ghost beats itself and psychic
Dark beats psychic and ghost
"Luckily he gets Tackle at the start of the game."
Oh boy. When starting with Tackle is one of the best thing about a pokemon, you know it's *bad* ...
You don’t have that dawg in you? I don’t blame you, honestly. With these, let’s say "less powerful" mons, I do believe EV training and beating every single possible trainer is truly the key. And exploring Battle Frontier options before Steven is definitely something I’d like to see in a video!
Regarding Damage Rounding Threshold merchandise, my first thought rather than a shirt is a wristband (or series thereof) or a mug that just has the levels on it. A subtle accessory of extreme nerdiness.
I'm partway through a game where I gave Tentacool the move Water Gun from the start and it's crushing it. So many water types, despite how good they are later, are neutered by a lack of early game water moves.
If this is how well a Nosepass does, I can only imagine how Steven Stone's half-Nosepass/half-human half-brother from FlygonHG's Nuzlockes would fare.
For the first time I noticed that camerupt wakes up numel in the flannery intro and I love that so much
You asked about PP restoring items. I did hoard them now that you mention it but the thing I remember hoarding most was TMs. They always made a point that it was only usable once and i was always afraid I'd use it and then need it later, so essentially I would never use it - just in case. I always just figured out other ways around problems (grinding up a new team member, etc.)
I will never unsee Nosepass's suction cup mouth. Thank you