The Secrets Of The Sunbury Line!
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- The Sunbury Railway Line, located in Melbourne's North West, was first constructed in 1859, and is full of history, and SECRETS!
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West Footscray station used to be super busy on Saturday afternoons when the Bulldogs played at the Western Oval. The last time I was there, minutes after the Dogs won the 2016 premiership, the station attendant was playing “Sons of the West” over the station PA and all the passengers were singing along.
My dad was the SM at west footscray and he was the one who plays the theme song
Long time........1954 to 2016.
Footscray should've got the to the 97 GF. They had the Crows on the ropes.
What ever happened to 'White City' station?
It appeared in Melb street directories of the 70s & 80s.
The legend has risen! Keep up the great work champ
Hopefully I never stop posting again! Thanks Garry
TRAIN MAN;
Two things of interest-
1) Ginifer station was actually called Furlong up until 1986.
I rode a train to St Albans in 1983 and the station had 'Furlong' signs on the station so whoever told you it was planned to be Furlong but never happened is wrong.
It was Furlong until 1986.
2) Diggers Rest was the site of Australia's first ever powered Aeroplane flight.
I think it was 1910.
The pilot............Harry Houdini!
I would guess that 'strange bulding' at Sunbury is a water tower from the old steam days. It was not unusual for them to be this shape rather than the more common circular tanks.
In fact most I know on the network were rectangle. Not round. Macedon. Kyneton. Woodend.
Water tower at Sunbury, similar one at Woodend, cheers, Dean
Thank you Dean, that is what I guessed, but didn't want to look silly :)
@@thetrainman548 was my first thought also
But if that building was for water, why is there an old water tower near Woolworths. I always thought it must have been to store coal but I don't really know.
@@lazyfrogonalog Well there probally was a railway there for steam locomotives and closed 100 years ago mate
@@tigermastr1021 Both the square building tank and round elevated tanks were for steam trains. The point is I doubt they both held water so my guess is that the square building tanks held coal and the round elevated tanks held water.
Welcome back, good to see you producing still!
The unit you saw at Albion was a rail tractor (RT25, I believe). There's a few around still, in various locations.
Well at least im someone who lives near there, i get to see it every day😂
Cheers Jesse, thanks for the info and great to hear your enjoyment 😍
After work I would take the 5:15pm or the 5:45 train from Spencer St Station to Sunbury which was either a DERM or loco hauled. I'd have a meal at the Railway Hotel and return on the 8:30 service.
One day I tried to make the 5:15 service and missed it as the tram struggled up Collins St. I caught the 5:45 which was two H class locos and wooden cars which crawled along (it was a hot day) I learned that due to some problem the 5:15 was a bus so it didn't matter if I missed it. When I arrived at Sunbury, I was gratified to see the 5:15 bus from Melbourne arrive. So I beat the substitute bus on a service that left half an hour later.
I keep finding myself following your line tours on 1945.Melbourne so I can see the Historical places that you mention.
There are alot of factories and sidings that branch off these lines like the sidings opposite the White City Track.
It;'s interesting seeing where all the Original Stabling sidings were like Jolimont, Williamstown etc
Keep up the Great work Max
4:55 that’s a rail tractor, never knew it was there, may need to go take a look one day, and at 12:09, I’m not 100% sure, but could be a water tower, great video, hope to see more in the future
Yes, they had the RT prefix as part of their registration numbers. All the ones I saw were painted yellow.
I wonder where the one that was stored at Ballarat's old grain sidings until 2011 or so went. Probably to the scrappers.
The C class steam engines with a full goods load, for Bendigo, needed to fill with water at Sunbury. And of course there was also the lancefield branch line ( which even went all the way to Kilmore for a while). Those engines too needed to water here. So the building was indeed a water tower.
I’ve seen that rail tractor there for years at Albion, no idea why it was never removed or given to a preservation society.
It will stay as rail history or it can be taken to newport workshops
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Immediate click when I see you post a new video, keep up the good work!
Always Informative!! The Younger Generation informing History!! Is ALWAYS Good!! Well Done!!
Welcome back to the secrets of the train lines are back you have to do the mernda line next
TRUE! and the hurstbridge and stony point lines
@@tigermastr1021 yeah and upfield and Craigieburn
The Sunbury Station is the Terminus for the electrified services, but there is another station on the Sunbury line that not too may people knw about.
Salesian College 'Rupertswood' has(had, not sure if it still exists) its own station that used to be serviced by V/line up until the late 80's and early 90's.
Always delivering high quality and very interesting videos. Keep up the great work
Another great video, nice to see you out and about again doing them. 👍👍👍
I'm glad to see you uploading again. I'm looking forward to your podcast coming out.
Your video's are great. Love the local history approach. Looking forward to more as you extend the boundaries further out. Maybe some regional stations and long gone country branch lines in the future?
Excellent video - great to see you back !!
Another fascinating video clip, Max - thanks for your great work (and that looks like a water tower at Sunbury to me, presumably from steam era).
Awesome work again Max!
I look forward to you filming out on the Hurstbridge line.
I may see you as I work on the line.
Keep the good work up
I travelled on this line a lot from 2000-2002 in my uni years, I still recall the open, wind blown down platform with its lone metcard machine which I’d sometime load with 5c pieces just to get a 2hr ticket to reach Sunbury. Great video!
Yay, you're back!
Love the vid
Hoping for the secrets of Craigieburn and Upfield lines next!
My Great Grandfather taught at Keilor Road Station Primary School. My Father worked at Olympic Cables in Tottenham and used to get the train to and from White City.
3:29 That voice crack tho 😳
'AL'bion station
Hi Max, good video again. So much has changed since I worked this line 50s and 60s. Nice to see you back.
Thanks The Train Man, another great video. Keep up the good work.
I absolutely love your videos mate. I'm an old rail buff myself and have ridden all the suburban lines a few times over the years. I also built a huge model railway with vic rail loco s and goods and passenger cars. I've sold all that now but please keep any rail content going mate lots of people would love it.
For years when the terminus was Watergardens. The line was known as the Sydenham line as that is the suburb.
And people still call it sydneham
Watergardens is also one of the few Melbourne stations that takes it name from a commerical property (the near by shopping centre)
@@yarragongoats Would you know any others? I can think of Southland and Watergarders so far.
I also recall this, as I am old enough to know the line as both. For some reason, I remember travelling around 2005 via V/line to Sydenham(Watergardens), from Ginifer (I think). Was this still happening or would this have been just a stop for a service that ended past Sunbury? I know that the line was electrified the year I was born, past St. Albans, but surely V/line didn't need to "continue" the journey.
@@nicholaskolaric343 You most likely did. I don't know much about the West but the same thing happens on the Gippsland line. You can catch the VLine from Flinders to Pakenham. Bit of a cheat for Pakenham passengers so they can travel express on a comfy train. Can only guess the same things happens for Watergardens.
Top work fella. Tottenham was my go-to station when I was living in West Footers for a few years. Dodgy as fuck but fun being in amongst all the trainyards.
Another really informative vid, Max, and some great historic pix too. A lot has changed in the 20 years since I was there, so thanks for keeping us up to date! Did I glimpse your trusty bike in one shot?!
That’s loco you saw at Albion was a RT class (called a rail tractor) which as a tractor engine + main bits combined with a basic cab and flatbed. It had only a hand break as a breaking system but had pipes so air breaks could be connected through the train. You didn’t need any train driving cert and only a drivers licence afaik. It was used for shunting
That building at Sunbury looks to be a water tower especially with the spout at the top
Thanks for the information Vincent, how interesting, I didn't know any of that regarding the rail tractor, and the water tower, I should have seen the water spout!
Love your uplaods so cool
Awesome content dude !
West Footscray and Middle Footscray gives me memories of when I was 4
Great video! I suspect the strange building on platform 2 at Sunbury may be a water tank, a remainder of the days of steam rail.
Love this max
Living on the west all of my life. Its great to learn about the history of these stations that I go pass each day.
Thanks for the content, keep it up!
same
Another great video, thank you.
Nice to see you back doing you tube videos
Another great bit of history, Max. I particularly love all the old pictures of the stations and the crossings. I'm always fascinated by the no- longer-used sheds, signal boxes, stations and warehouses by the lines. I often think they railways should put them up for sale or for rent as residences, because they just sit there wasting space. Train lovers like us should get first options of course. What do you think?
Thanks for watching mate.
I love the idea of repurposing the disused sheds, signal boxes etc. of our railways, a great idea from you. I'm all for it if these aren't situated too close to stations, it would be weird to have someone living there, but I agree that the space should be reused, especially to save these historic buildings from demolition!
Good to have you back train man
Nice one Max!
I’ve been waiting for this video for a long time
Oh yeah, the Sunbury Line! I only filmed on Tottenham Station of the Sunbury Line.
It's a pretty interesting line, hope you enjoy :)
Sometimes after work I'd go to Tottenham Station and photograph the V/Line services.
Oh I've been looking forward to this. Like the Werribee line video this brings back memories, living in St Albans as a very young kid I have vague memories of travelling into the city on it. Then to (the old) West Footscray with my nan coming back from the city, and then finally to and from Watergardens with my mates in 2015 and 16. Like always, a great video. P.S glad you mentioned Regional Rail Link, coming soon in a future video folks.
Edit: I assume Sunshine & Footscray will be covered under the RRL video? Makes sense. Great to see you back, Max.
That was so entertaining, and very informative. Thank you
Glad you thought so mate, thanks heaps!
I work on the railway, major projects and infrastructure. I also live near PuffingBilly. And I swear I have seen you at Tacoma station…. Anyhow, I’ve really enjoyed watching your videos before work, and it’s been great to see a young guy so interested in rail. Well done and keep it up!
Great work bro. Welcome back missed seeing your videos been watching your old ones again till you made this one🤣. Would love to see from sunshine onwards and the old mornington line if you could please
Haha, thanks for waiting Jim, my apologies for that!
Hopefully I can start posting frequently until end of year exams :)
I've filmed a Mornington Line video, and it'll be edited shortly!
@@thetrainman548 sweet as man looking forward to it. I would still love to come on one of your adventures with you I'm a huge train nut. None the less keep up the amazing work
@@thetrainman548 train man pls notice me I am inspired u
This was GREAT!!!! Thank you:)
No worries Mike, thanks for watching :)
Nice video!
Love these videos
Good to see you back.
I'm still coming back haha, watch out for a big summer of videos!
Amazing video! 😎
When are you planning to post your Sunshine station video?
YES ! New Train Man !
My Line Too !
Informative and interesting as usual 👍
Cheers Mick, I finally got to your line, took way too long!
Great to hear you enjoyed again, hopefully the uploads become frequent again 💪👍
Great video also you answered one of my questions regarding what's planned for West Footscray platform 2
Thanks for watching Mark, glad you enjoyed. West Footscray is quite nice in my opinion, and it'll be interesting to see it in full operation in 2025 with the tunnel!
its so good that you're doing this. Will act as great archival footage as our networks continue to develop.
Loved that bit on the old wheat siding near Albion. There's an area or two like that in Ballarat, one of which had a more complete rail tractor than that one sitting in it until 2011 or so - It almost looked like you could turn it on and start shunting wheat trains again! No idea where it went though, wouldn't be surprised if it was scrapped.
Those rail tractors are interesting machines by the way, usually they'd literally just be the engine and housing from a tractor, a scratch built cabin and an old steel wagon frame, there were over 50 of them made and they'd usually do the shunting for smaller sidings and country stations. I think SSR uses a few of them for their workshop shunters these days.
Nice! I live on the Sunbury Line
Good to see you back mate! Had a good laugh at the Sydenham brick work at Watergadens! Also the locomotive that’s been left derelict at Albion is a RT, they where used for shunters all over the state for a long time!
Also rumor is the old station at Sydenham is to be relocated, second half of that rumor is the Mornington Railway have put in an expression of interest!
Very cheeky mistake they made with the brickworks haha, but I love the character it gives the station!
A rail tractor, I should have known, I wonder how many are still in use today 😮
I hope the Mornington Relocation is true, that would be spectacular, and put the building to another important use :)
@@thetrainman548 The building relocation to Moorooduc was planned, but cancelled due to local opposition from the council. I had been donated by Watergardens shopping Center as they did not want to pay for its up keep
@@thetrainman548 not sure they use rail tractors anymore, maybe for some special events im not sure
Hope to see Melbourne showgrounds line and info on the old Flemington bridge station love these videos learning so much about the place I lived for more the 50 years by a bright young
lad
Another intersting vid, Max! Well done!
Thanks heaps Peter!
You’re welcome indeed! So looking forward to future bids and also collaborations!
Another great presentation and it was nice to see things as they are now after having driven on this track for years on Loco' hauled trains, railmotors, and sparks. I am now retired and enjoyed seeing it again. Lance Adams. Yea.
Thanks for watching, so cool to hear of your experiences of the line, glad I did it justice :)
Grouse old water-tower @ Sunbury ..... and nice vid Train Man., good work!
Indeed a grouse water tower haha, thanks for that info Ian.
Glad to hear you enjoyed it :)
Nice video! Exciting
Thanks for watching, and happy to hear you found it exciting haha
Fantastic presentation as always. Nice old color pic of the Spirit of Progress with the X class and the Commonwealth Railways GM behind at Mid Footscray too. Looking forward to the Sunshine video too when it is done. The new station certainly doesn't have the problems of the old one, where ferals, (and even not so feral) gathered, fighting and annoying passengers. We hated that station to go to when working in the old VR back in the day, but it improved over time.
Thanks for the comment Brian, great to hear from you again enjoying my videos :)
It is certainly a very cool picture, little bursts of history that give a small sense of being there.
Sunshine Station does look quite nice today, I filmed there over summer, unfortunately the audio is terrible and I'll have to refilm 😓, but I don't mind, so much history! Certainly some dodgy characters at the station, but that is all across Melbourne haha
@@thetrainman548 I was going to say, but younger people would not have even heard of this guy...but Frank Sinatra travelled by train from the city to Tottenham a few times in the late 1950's and early 60's. Just him and a a security guy apparently, all very low key and media did not know. Old Frankie used to visit a "fan" who lived in a workers cottage near Tottenham station, every time he visited Australia to perform. (He got to know this fan over a long time from corresponding to each other for years by mail). And Frank S was into trains as well, coincidentally. And Pink uses the train to travel to Brisbane Entertainment Centre whenever she performs in Brisbane. Just likes train travel and not getting stuck in traffic.
Nice one. Good job.
Thank you, much appreciated! 😊💪
lol 10:01 pushes camera off stand Train Man "Oh No" me lol
That was Brilliant you asked about the locomotive that was the goods shed at Albion that is called a rail tractor. And the old station at Watergardesn cant be taken down as it is heritage listed lets hope it recieves some renovations. Very nicely done mate.
Thanks heaps Nicholas!
A rail tractor 😮, can't say I've heard too much about them, I obviously don't have the advanced knowledge that you and others have.
Great to hear about Watergardens too, I should have mentioned it's heritage listing in the video, it's very pretty!
Siding closer ran to a Simsmetal yard just past there. It's where a lot of the GY and GH 4 wheel wagons were scrapped.
The "strange building" @12:10 is a disused water tower, now much rusted out. Surprisingly, it isn't one of the funnel shaped water towers more commonly seen around the suburbs. Also odd is the fact that it is made from steel and not concrete. Great video by the way!!!!
Cheers for upload dude, Solid work.
I still remember the level crossing after Keilor Plains Station. The tracks went through a round about and caused crazy congestion haha
Hey thanks for the history lesson.
Thats probaly the stupidest thing ive ever heard! Railway tracks runjing through a round about😂
Its a little funny
Thanks for the interesting video :) I would have liked you to have shown more maps of the line (I had to open Google Maps in another window). I would also have preferred a chronological approach so I could see how the line grew over time.
Only ever gone to Footscray on the Sunbury line, really need to go further
It's an underrated line in my opinion :)
Hey Max how are you doing? ( Congrats on 7.79k sub)
Well done...thanks
Thanks for watching George!
Also can’t wait to hear the new podcast!
I use Watergardens station everyday and I never noticed the station brickwork said Sydenham!! Thanks for pointing that out.
Albion Station is going to be rebuilt,and strangely enough,there is not a mention of White City station ( between Tottenham and Sunshine,which closed in 1981.)
I have a video idea, the history of Yarra glen station or all the vline trains, Dejan
really well done .
Thank you Jesus' best friend, tell him to watch the video 👀😮
congrats on 5.56k subcribers
Cheers Eddy 👊👊
Love your videos man! I recommend you get a kebab from Katik near Upfield Station when you do the Upfield line. :P
Thanks heaps! I love a good Kebab, I will have to visit on a trip to Upfield, I have already filmed the Upfield video, but that won't stop me from a kebab from Katik 💪
You must be congratulated on the research and clever presentation of your findings. Get that rogue fang fixed and you might be in for a mainstream career in other related spheres as well.. It is so refreshing to see a young man so enthusiastic and well researched on such an interesting topic. Best wishes for your bright future. Regards Brian M
Hey brian
The photo for Platform 3 at St Albans is not St Albans as there's way too many trees in the image and the platform is on the wrong side of the tracks.
I remember going to Sunbury on the train in early 1970's
Diggers Rest station in the early seventies, about a minute in , serving the Sunbury pop festival held at a Diggers Rest farm :
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A T class locomotive and PL cars was pretty standard for outer urban trains just beyond the electrified system from the later fifties into the early eighties.
Although called the Sunbury festival it was really at Diggers Rest but that was a less marketable name.
@the train man nice vid …. How long did u say for Mornington line…. Can’t wait , keep them coming they are most informitvie .
Thanks Bradley, I'm not too sure about Mornington, just depends on Year 12 school, it's 4th in line at the moment :)
@@thetrainman548 shurenthanks ok my bud.
I hope you took the time to explore the suburbs whilst you were visiting the west! St Albans is pretty cool!
I did take the time to exit some of the stations!
Some of the suburbs, including St Albans are quite nice, a lot better than I expected for sure :)
nice one!
Thanks David, much appreciated 😁👍
Can you please do tje old Port Melbourne and St Kilda lines? Thx so much for your great work! We love you Max.
He has already done it
Hey mate! Have you got a video of the Hurstbridge Line coming? It has its own Facebook page 😂
Nice one. I learnt a lot of Albion Station in this video. Can’t wait to see the video on Sunshine Station I’m interested to see that soon. :)
Thanks for watching :)
Albion is so interesting, I had no idea until I first arrived that it was there, then spent an hour researching! The Sunshine Video has terrible audio unfortunately, and so I'm going to have to redo it sometime soon :(
No problem :)
Yeh some days you’ll have a opportunity to come back to Sunshine.. The Sunbury line is my favourite lines out of all in Melbourne.
What a lad !
Haha thanks mate
You forgot to mention Gap Road when you were at Sunbury and how it's being removed.
4:54 that is a v/line tangerine rail tractor. the rail tractora were used all throughout victoria and could still haul a lot of wagons so they made shunting very easier because of its size and strength.
Thanks for the information mate, makes me seem a little stupid saying locomotive haha, my apologies!
ive missed your vids
Love these vids, dude. I highly recommend investing in a wireless microphone for better audio. Can get them quite cheap and super easy to use!
Thanks Adrian, I need to get one, it's getting ridiculous haha. Do you have any you would recommend, I bought a real cheap one a few months ago and it didn't work with all the adapter stuff, thanks
@@thetrainman548 I recommend the Rode Wireless Go II, it's the best one you can get for the best price and pretty easy to use. If you need any help gimme a holla.
The unknown object? A water tank for steam engines. The train would re-fill the boiler water from them, as the tank would slowly re-fill from a bore pump, or mains supply somewhere. Well done on another good video!
Thanks for watching and glad you enjoyed 😁😁
As for the water tank, how interesting, I kind of guessed in my head that it might be that, but of course, I didn't have the true understanding of its function. My next learning will have to be on the operation of steam locomotives in general, my lack of knowledge is embarrassing for 'the train man'. Thanks again 👍
@@thetrainman548 As a research piece, have a look at what steam engines did in the metropolitan system - I'm curious. In South Australia, we had steam for 80 years in the regions, before switching to diesels. Problem is that became the default position until only recently.
In recent years when they have used a fire engine to top up a tender it can take more than 40 minutes and yet with the large diameter pipe one of these tanks could top up the water in less than 10 minutes often less than 5 depending on how much water was used. If you look at the size of the storage it had enough to fill a number of steam engines in a row without running out of water. Having it on the platform meant that a train could be being topped up while the passengers were detraining minimizing the time lost to "engine requirements".