Were There Any Winners Of The 1916 Irish Rebellion? | A Terrible Beauty | Timeline
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- The Irish Rebellion of 1916 is often eclipsed by World War I, but the "Easter Rebellion" resulted in almost 500 deaths, over half being civilians. Over six days, Dublin was gripped by an uprising that tore the city apart and left causalities on both sides. This powerful film does much to remind us of the significance and sacrifice of the soldiers who fought in a place many called home.
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I'm surprised that I've never seen this type of story telling before. Using actors to portray the soldiers, rebels, and civilians made this series so much more impactful to me. I hope to see more documentaries like this
Peter and Dan Snow's series Battlefield Britain has a similar thing of having actors playing combatants in 'interviews'. Worth checking out if you can find it.
So does the 14 Diaries of the Great War
Indeed they are impactful.
You’re right man. It definitely helps me personally picture the events because I don’t follow descriptions of geographic formations or descriptions of cities as well. Especially old cities that had stables and stuff and especially me being raised in this day in age and in a Canadian city where we speak more like Americans. In Toronto we do anyhow.
@@alfredjohnson2647thanks man!
My Grandfather was a young Dr in the American Navy visiting Ireland on Easter Weekend when the uprising took place! He was treating the injured both Irish and Brit when he was arrested by the Brits for siding with the IRA. He was jailed with 3 others for 3 days..one being Michael Collins.
Sorry, hate to break it to you but the Michael Collins wasn't in Richmond Barracks 3 days before being sent to Frongoch internment camp in Wales. Michael and Collins are rather common names.
That's the story I was told..no reason to not believe it. Thanks for the insight.
@@robertamurphy1124 Thank you for sharing your story! Regarding Collins at Richmond Barracks, Michaels Collins was, indeed, processed by Dublin Metropolitan Police at Richmond Barracks before being sent to Frongoch Interment Camp, so it is quite likely that your grandfather and Collins were at Richmond Barracks during the same time. Tim Pat Coogan's biography of Collins (2015) covers that particular series of events during those few days.
@@WitchDoctor02 and with the footnotes for the win!
@@WitchDoctor02 that's how you comment... with sources 👍🏼
Many thanks...I have so much respect for Ireland& Irish nation....
Thanks for sharing this, as it was so informative. It really made the events of 1916 feel very real, while bringing the conflict down to a human scale. The actors and the writing really brought history to life for me. Having had the privilege of visiting Dublin 7 years ago, we stayed not far from central Dublin. Seeing archival footage coupled with contemporary video of the same locations fosters a deeper understanding of this important history.
When we hear about the Easter Rising usually we just see the fighting at the GPO. Good to see the other aspects and battles of the Rising.
A well produced and informative video. Thank you.
29:08 "lost it" is no excuse for war crimes
amazing documenrary
Erin go bragh!!!!🇮🇪🇮🇪
Depends on which side you ask
There‘s only one side, no matter which one you‘re on.
It’s a rhetorical question. It’s saying that, in many ways, there weren’t any real winners.
Great 2 part mini series
My grandfather fought in the 1916 uprising. He was forced to flee to America with a bounty on his head and unfortunately never got to go back.
There was an Irishman who became a paramount chief of a confederation of Indian tribes. Other Irishmen similarly became involved with the Indians. In the mid 19th century some of these Irishmen, people of Irish ancestry, went over to Ireland and were involved in organising the resistance to British tule. It is said that to this day that the IRA use Indian sign language to communicate. I'm not Irish but I know quite a bit about Irish history. I was once approached in London, late a night in a quiet street, by an Irishman who obviously meant me harm. I said to him: "I may sound English ... but my great grandfather came over from Ireland in 1865 ... and you know what happened then? (Not actually true, I've no Irish blood in me). He responded with:"You don't carry a dagger?" to which I replied: "Saxon means dagger". He went on his way. I've run into genuine IRA people a couple of times ... people not to be messed with.
The man you are talking about is eamonn develara, he was giving that honour after the establishment of the free state, no Indians helped the irish rebellions in the 19th century, they sent money for famine relief. The notion that the IRA at any time used indian hand signals is ridiculous.
Those brave Irishmen were true soldiers. They followed orders, did their duty and fought on till they were ordered to surrender. Much respect from the descendant of an Irish Republican Brotherhood member.
This is the history that English hide from the English people if only they knew what really happened
Lessons from the real history event....Easter 1916 uprising, Michael Collins, Eamon de Valera....
I knew little of the Easter Rising before watching this programme.
Understand that you're seeing a mostly British/Loyalist version of the story. They're overlooking a lot of the more intricate reasons behind the Rising. The narrative that the Rising gave birth to the IRA, the Provisional IRA, and the Troubles and therefore "nobody won" only makes sense when you ignore the wider politics and ideals of the Rising.
It's a tragic, fascinating story when you look at the 800 year 'big picture'.
Propaganda*
My favourite fact of the Rising - it started at Dublin GPO and ended in a chip shop.
All evil Northern Ireland unionists are murdering scum,always were and always will be until they are no longer on the island of Ireland....Good riddance to them sooner rather than later.
I am English from/living in Liverpool, I am a supporter of Irish nationalism yet I still have a strong feeling of guilt for what The British did ... even though I have No Time for those upper class British Imperrialists, when I see drama's like this, I can not shake off the guilt I feel.
RIP Brave volunteers of Ireland 🇮🇪 🙏
What’s is a “netflix”?
Imagine if they had had the german weapons with them... It would have been much of a nightmare to the Brits
I'm a relative of Michael Collins. In the 90s I became friends with Dr Burke Vaughan who was at the horse show that weekend. His father was a crown solicitor and he became a target for Collins later on but he survived 3 attempts on his life. The good doctor had a narrow escape from the Japanese from PNG in WW2.
He had no children how are you a descendent
@@cianwright212*relative
he could be say micheal collins mothers granddaughter
if she had other children
@@kriegenjoyer6913 he edited the comment to say relative instead of descendent
@@cianwright212 so?? he messed up
Whats the soundtrack called?
Rest in Peace Thomas Ashe
In answer to some of these comments, there is no black and white, Irish men died in the trenches in France, and innocent British men died on the streets of Dublin in 1916. My great uncle's death is portrayed in this film. He died in the side street near the end of the film, and was fired upon from above. He was 18 years old, he had been conscripted into the British Army less than two months before he was sent to Dublin, and he had most likely never handled live ammunition. He had twelve brothers and sisters and was from a poor Wolverhampton background. The uniform he wore was most likely the best suit of clothes he had ever worn. He is buried in Dublin - one of the graves shown.
The Irish were the winners. We’re our own country now because of this
@Top Secret St George was from the Middle East
Nobody won. Ireland will be swept under the European Union, you're kidding yourselves if you think the reality of the EU is much different from the UK. Sorry, you're just swapping a sovereignty for a Federacy.
Make videos whit ruth i love her !
I am related to Michael Collins and would love more info on the history.
How are you related if you don’t mind me asking?
fabulous 😜
👍🏻
24:20 blank firing
It’s a shame people are still divided because of these events today.
If you really think about it, if you strip away all the titles from those like The Queen, Prime Minister, the Orange men, IRA. What do you get? People. And in that they share common ground. So keep that in mind, before you start a comment war with each other.
I want my orange man back
Tell that to the British. They're still trying to claim Ireland as their own 800 years later.
@@thefox5997 No, they’re not. The only part Britain has any influence on the island is in Northern Ireland and that’s because we voted for them to stay.
As someone from NI who is influenced by both sides, I completely agree.
@@jives11220 Sad really
"They believed in something, I suppose"
Theres domething to be said abput a soldier that, if nothibg else,UNDERSTANDS what can drive the conviction to fight a hopeless rebellion, even during a world war.
What those British soldiers did to civilians was murder
Of course it is, they're english and that's what the english have historically always done to anyone and everyone they come across.
@@CrowDawg11 Exactly, they've done it to many people in many countries.. not just us.
Indeed
From here across the water, it pains many of us to see our cousins fighting. Last century Europe came close to eating itself into oblivion. I hope that never happens
The only winner in the easter rising was the Kaiser imho.
GET OUT YE BLACK AND TANS!!
Michael Collins, truly the Irish George Washington
Shame he was murdered by his own
@@daviddring2365 :(
No that is not true and Michael Collins had no Slaves when George Washington had about one Hundred and He inherited more when He Married .
BBC: Were there any winners in the 1916 Easter Rising?
26 Counties of Free Ireland: Tell Queen Elizabeth that Ireland sends it's regards
What about the other 6? Do you think the queen cares about the opinion of the Irish?
Is that Colm Meaney narrating?
British and Irish people are brothers and sisters.i love both countries please no more troubles 🇨🇮🇬🇧
Casualties of war doesn't quite set right does it
Why do the two English soldiers at 18:18 have Ulster accents?
descendants probably
👍👍👍👍👍👍🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
🇮🇪 forever......!!!!
First of all, having the background music be as loud as those speaking made this documentary near impossible to watch and fully appreciate. It will mot be recommended.
Second, those officers who repeatedly sent their men into suicidal charges, escaped justice, which includes those officers in the European fields of battle.
Those so-called executions weren't executions, they were murders.
You do not murder enemy combatants you detain them as prisoners of war.
But then; the English did invent the concentration camp.
Nice to see the British dead are being talked about for a change
This event has always been an excellent example of how imperial powers will commit horrific atrocities to stay in power, something especially poignant now with Palestine fighting for their independence from Israeli oppression. Anyone who supports the Irish uprising (as you should) who has fallen for modern propaganda about Hamas needs to look at what the Irishmen here were fighting for, the right to live on their own land and govern themselves, and what they were fighting against, oppressors who commit heinous warcrimes and then lie about it afterwards
I find the story of the British officer, who doesn't realize he is seeing his family for the last time, ironic and tragic. All the more so because he died in vain, i.e. in support of a dying empire that was subjugating millions all over the world.
Indeed
0:00 mmmm well i imagine there were a few funeral homes who did ok out of it ..... but other than thaaaaaat
Great documentary, but they needed a better military advisor. The uniforms are diabolical.
And they couldn't get their damn hats sraight! What a bad director.
I'd like to know what the Colonel of the South Staffs is doing with a full beard! Was he transferred from the RN?
Very Nice, but you should have told the story of the amazing suffragist women that fought as revolutionaries in the war! Political decisions were clearly made in the creation of this documentary.
I think i saw a Kar98k
More likely the gewehr 98, the rebels used alot of German rifles
When you’re a American 👀 “is this revolutionary warfare?” 👃🏽
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looool
The Irish nation won.
1916 started in 1845.
Just so you know.
What did they died for I know they were fighting for freedom but now people are fighting if your a catholic or Protestant they fight over that so are we free if you take away the flags and the label of catholics and protestants we are all the same. the people lost there life for what for nothing sad in away I'm sorry if this rub people up the wrong way I don't mean to do that I am from Ireland and I love my Irish history are we still stuck in the past
They lost their life for independence and the brits lost their life to hold onto their lovely empire and keep the savage natives in check. If the attitudes of the invaders don’t demonstrate to you why they wanted to be independent in the first place then youre just a empty headed fool
Yeah, Ireland
No one won, this was a disaster for all concerned. But at least it showed the world how right Irish Unionists were to fear HR. Northern Ireland was essentially born on Easter Week.
How does this show that im not following
@@Bmyt612 It showed that Irish Nationalists were racist Nazis who sympathised with the murderers and blamed the victims, it showed that ALL Unionists fears about Home Rule were 100% justified. After the Rising there would never again be a united Ireland. But it took the brutal slaughter of 400 innocent people before the government really understood that
Sorry but the unionists were about to launch an uprising in 1914 and the only reason why there was no violence was because of the curragh mutiny by the British army. That is double standards. The leaders of the Easter rising did not want home rule at all but independence for Ireland. The nationalists won because the Easter rising won public support for Irish independence leading to an English evacuation from most of Ireland less than 6 years later.
@@wonjubhoy No they weren't, don't be stupid, they simply demanded that if Ireland was allowed to opt out of the UK Northern Ireland should be allowed to opt in, because they knew that an independent Ireland would be a backwards, impoverished, Catholic state for a Catholic people where Unionists and Protestants would be discriminated against and which would stab Britain in the back in wartime. And how right history proved them to be! There was no mutiny, army officers simply said they would not coerce Unionists if asked. Yes, the leaders of the Rising were fascists who wanted a totalitarian state, the Nationalists proved themselves guilty of all that Unionists suspected, voting for murderers and traitors and ignoring their victims. The fact that you refer to an "English" evacuation displays your prejudice.
Sure there were. They all came to the United States and died fighting in our Civil War. Over 200,000 Irish men, fresh off the boats, fought and died in our War Between the States. A war that was about what States were Catholic or Protestant, rather than to endow all men with their equal and inalienable rights.
The English empire was the ultimate bad guy.
I can smell the Oirish on this one 😂
@@DJFAmenHeavy lol I’m American...we won our independence from the English empire...twice
Some good documentaries about what happens to the English crown over here.
@@MickyMarineCorps1232
I’m American also. We love our history with the British. We are literal descendants of Britannia. Independence was in inevitable. We only became more powerful after Britain depleted its force fighting ww11, we should have got involved sooner.
Stick that clover where the sun don’t shine.
@@DJFAmenHeavy shamrock*
@@DJFAmenHeavy why do you put an O before Irish
Only a British documentary would ask this question. Clueless.
The British have the best army in the world?
Lmfao
Sadly,not true anymore
Who was better equipped and trained in 1916?
"fancied my husband dead" does this mean she wanted him dead?
Nope.. It means she suspected him dead.
Who won is a question asked by the losers. Cathleen ni Houlihan agus the free citizens of the world; bhí a mbua saothraithe go maith acu.
Well, I'm no expert but if I were a betting man I'd put my money on the nation that was born out of it and is looking as if it will most likely soon encompass the whole island...
And doing much better than the UK
Murderers, all of 'em!
Who the British or the Irish?
British are soo brave
More like the Irish are brave out numbered and still had less casualties so 🖕of
This really was a wasted effort. Did they thing they could take on the British army and force their hand during a time of war? In comparison, the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto were fighting for their lives against a known evil enemy who were out to annihilate them. They too faced overwhelming forces but just to live. By killing some Brit soldiers didn't they realize there was no point?
I mean nobody thought that the American colonies could take on the British empire and they pulled it off. Sometimes the smallest amount of inspiration can cause an entire revolution. Obviously it didn't work in this case but that's looking in hindsight
@@menwithven8114 They increased the financial burden of maintaining empire so it wasn't "wasted" in the grand scheme of things, just a step in a process of imperial decline. In the end demands for home rule in Ireland couldn't be ignored anymore.
The costs of empire were already starting to increase in relation to the benefits to the exchequer and these costs would only go up as rising competitors (Germany/US/Japan/Russia) started to test the Empires borders/hegemony.
Max Hastings' Catastrophe:1914 is brilliant and includes some historyof the Ulster crisis of 1912 as well as the inevitable crumbling/reordering of European power and colonial possessions prior to WW1
@@motimobo yeah it's always easy to look back at a "failed" revolution and claim they're idiots or wasting time but it never works if you don't try. I still don't understand the continued loyalists movement of northern Ireland. As an American with heavy ties to the Irish I can't wrap my head around supporting an occupying force. Although loyalists have been burning down busses for the last week so maybe they are giving up on the empire lol.
Short term it was a loss but the Rising became a prelude to the Free state that would not have been possible without the 1916 rebellion.
They were tricked by the Germans. They were promised a seat at the peace table with the Central Powers if they helped the Germans take on Britain.
Edit - Grammar
The Irish republican rebellion in 1916 was a huge mistake and guaranteed partition on the island of Ireland. Irishmen from all over the island were, at the time, fighting against the Hun in France, and republicans created a hatred and animosity among Irishmen that has never dissipated.
We have a country.
The 1916 Rising was the fifth attempt at an all-island free Ireland. The civil war in 1921-23 is the one that could be debated endlessly. Pros and cons abound. As an American of Scot-Irish descent I love Ireland and I hope they can achieve their own goals in peace. I think maybe the bridge from Derry to Londonderry could serve as a great icon. And if you want a few minutes of love and peace listen to the song about Grace Griffin and Joseph Plunkett "Grace" a modern song based on his poem.
the Hun ? WW1 was a war promoted by the banksters. America had no stake in that war but the same banksters got us involved, Listen to the 1961 speech by Benjamin Freedman head of the Woodbury soap co. The truth of America's involvement in that senseless war.
The Easter Rising was a fight for independence from British oppression that had affected Ireland for 100s of years. The republicans did not create that atmosphere in Ireland, the horrific actions of the British towards the Irish throughout history and in dealing with the Rising created hatred and animosity.
The English spent 700 years dividing Ireland. The Republicans of 1916 were just trying to free it.
You start a rebellion and then complain when civilians are killed.Shame on you.