Messages From the Dead Sea Scrolls

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  • čas přidán 11. 12. 2013
  • As part of the JPS/Skirball New Author Series, Lawrence H. Schiffman, Ph.D., will discuss "Messages From the Dead Sea Scrolls" and introduce the new and groundbreaking collection of which he is one of the editors - "Outside the Bible, Three-Volume Set: Ancient Jewish Writings Related to Scripture." (December 5, 2013)

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  • @TrustinJC
    @TrustinJC Před 9 lety +105

    His explanation of Enoch being an explanation of parts of the bible is pure speculation on his part. It is his way of dismissing it as having been deemed scripture by the writers of the scrolls.
    1 Enoch is referenced more than 100 times by Jesus and the writers of the NT. This means they clearly considered it to be inspired/scripture. This also suggests they were Essenes themselves.
    Lawrence appears to be reading what he believes rather than believing what he reads. He is trying to make the scrolls fit into his worldview model rather than allowing the evidence to change his worldview.

    • @alljax1
      @alljax1 Před 9 lety +9

      TrustinJC well clearly it deals with prophecy also , I felt he should have spent more time on it , no other book has such potential , other than the gospels .

    • @TrustinJC
      @TrustinJC Před 9 lety +9

      Yes. There is both messianic and end time prophecy in it.

  • @Leolioness44
    @Leolioness44 Před 8 lety +71

    the Catholic faith also changed yahweh's calendar to their own version which includes each day of the week to be renamed calling them by planets and gods they worship. this calendar is called the Solace calendar. yahweh's calendar is the Luna solar.

    • @Vebian
      @Vebian Před 8 lety +9

      +Annette Herrera muslims also use lunar calendar

  • @foreclosureinfcntr
    @foreclosureinfcntr Před 9 lety +57

    Interpretation comes from the spirit.

  • @72Yonatan
    @72Yonatan Před 8 lety +22

    Nice to hear a straight and honest lecture about the Dead Sea scrolls.

  • @barbaramitchell1979
    @barbaramitchell1979 Před 8 lety +12

    where can I get the studies for this

  • @Bellucci-zy6sl
    @Bellucci-zy6sl Před 8 lety +5

    So, will it come out in a Limited Collector's Editon?

  • @khonrak
    @khonrak Před 8 lety +6

    Superb interpretation of the bible.

  • @ihatetheparty6340
    @ihatetheparty6340 Před 7 lety +5

    Sir, please see if you can definitievely answer this:
    DOES YOUR GOD LOVE "Burnt Offereings"? And did those first Jews following Moses for forty years in the desert (they barely had enough to eat themselves, mind you) bring BURNT OFFERINGS to their God every Sabbath -- during that time when they were so very CLOSE TO GOD (and he said he wished thjey would always stay that pure and sinless)?

  • @Leolioness44
    @Leolioness44 Před 8 lety +16

    the Jewish manuscript also became corrupted by the Temple's priest. they've made many of their own interpretations to suit their own gain. that corruption led to Yahweh destroying the temple

  • @rmilkyswife
    @rmilkyswife Před 8 lety +8

    I really loved this it keeps me in the right direction. I pray to travel to Israel in October anybody have good travel advice?

    • @thezeptetis5087
      @thezeptetis5087 Před 8 lety +2

      +Stephanie Wilson Insh´Allah travel cia. Try it. You may land on the wrong side of the fence though, but what are fences if not challenges?Right? be positive! Fly Insh´Allah!

  • @eatersofdead
    @eatersofdead Před 8 lety +27

    Kept on waiting to here a message? Didn't learn anything new. Disagree about the book of Enoch by the way.

  • @Leolioness44
    @Leolioness44 Před 8 lety +41

    in the Catholic Church the Popes have titled themselves as the holy father.

    • @eiyrie2990
      @eiyrie2990 Před 8 lety +5

      +Edwin Rodrigues he regards himself as godly... which is not how it should be and he changes the laws of the one Triune true LORD.

    • @Leolioness44
      @Leolioness44 Před 8 lety +28

      +Edwin Rodrigues there is only one father our Creator

  • @shirley6996
    @shirley6996 Před 8 lety +10

    Thank you for sharing this video its wonderful to hear the Jewish side of the bible and not just the Greek interpretation who themselves got it from the Hebrew version.

    • @shirley6996
      @shirley6996 Před 8 lety +4

      not no matter where they come from Germany the U.S, Europe Ethiopia china they are all of the family of Hebrews they are God's choosen

  • @TrustinJC
    @TrustinJC Před 9 lety +20

    I strongly disagree that there is no mention or reference to John the Baptist. Because John the Baptist actually wrote at least one portion of the scrolls entitled the Thanksgiving Hymns, or Thanksgiving Scrolls. For it perfectly describes John when we include a non-canonical NT writing called the Protevangelion (Gospel of James).
    Consider the following.
    The writer of the hymns tells us his father did not know him.
    The Protevangelion tells us John's father (Zacharias) was murdered by Herod's henchmen when he refused to turn over his infant son when all males under 2 years of age were being killed. It goes on to say that his mother fled into the hills (wilderness) with him. Jesus confirms this story when he says this generation would be held accountable for the murders of all the prophets from the time of Able to Zacharias.
    The writer of the hymns also speaks of his nurse bringing him up and his mother abandoning him. As Elizabeth was late in age when she gave birth to John and was now a widow, it follows that she left John with the sect known as the Essenes who lived in the hills/wilderness. As John was from the line of Aron, he would have been well received.
    The writer also speaks of persecution and fetters. And we know John himself was persecuted and placed in Jail.
    There is also a prophecy in the scrolls that approximately 40 yrs. after the death of the Righteous Teacher (John), warriors who return to the wicked liar would be destroyed. Well, as it turns out, around 68 A.D. some of the Essens rebelled against Rome and took a stand in the caves. Archeologists have discovered the Romans laid siege to the caves and eventually dug tunnels into them. So the prophecy fits the events of John's death and the siege against Essene warriors.
    Jesus also quoted a passage in the scrolls that is not found in the bible. This then tells us Jesus held the Essenes and their writings in high regard, suggesting he was either himself an Essene or that he spent a good deal of time among them. Considering the fact though that they were a secretive and strict sect that did not allow outsiders to read the most sacred texts, it is highly unlikely that Jesus was a visitor who dropped by from time to time. No. In order to be quoting the Redemption and Resurrection Scroll, it is save to say Jesus was also an Essene who came from the sect that wrote the scrolls.

    • @bitchwazzup
      @bitchwazzup Před 8 lety +2

      +TrustinJC "Jesus also quoted a passage in the scrolls that is not found in the bible" will you elaborate in this statement?
      With very kind regards from Daniel

    • @josephinemullar7857
      @josephinemullar7857 Před 8 lety +7

      +TrustinJC Very interesting and logical. As for evolution of earth being billions of years old when a man builds a house how old is the material used? Almighty God is timeless and eternal.

    • @josephinemullar7857
      @josephinemullar7857 Před 8 lety +1

      +TrustinJC You are a man of insight and intellect. Holy spirit must be directing you. Much of bible interpretation is wrong. For instance. Revelation 12:4;5 is not churches. It is a woman who was to give birth to a son a male who is to shepherd the earth. And the son was caught away to his Father to heaven. And they in heaven called His Name Immanuel meaning when translated 'With Us Is God'. This is in fulfilment of three prophesies the one prophesy not mentioned is Hebrews 1:6. Leonardo da Vinci's paintings tell the story that could not be spoken. One painting showing two Madonna's doesn't show John the Baptist holding a crucifix but the first coming of our Lord as Saviour the Christ. One woman is pointing towards the other woman showing Immanuel was to go with his first mother to the heavens at time of birth to be instructed by His heavenly Father. There are other paintings by Leonardo that tell this bible truth furthering accurate knowledge of truth.

  • @josephinemullar7857
    @josephinemullar7857 Před 9 lety +7

    If you search Ptolemy Philadelphus who succeeded his father Ptolomy Soter you will find that monarch chose 72 Jewish elders being 6 from each tribe to translate the law from Hebrew to Greek.

    • @martygirl464
      @martygirl464 Před 9 lety +2

      Yes, and they were the ones who mistranslated it. They changed and hid names to create a huge lie to deceive the masses. They worked in concert with the Romans, the Sanhedrin were Judah and they turned him over to be killed. Benjamin said let his blood be on us and our children. Judah, Levi and Benjamin are in Israel today but in small numbers.

    • @lovethelordthygod3827
      @lovethelordthygod3827 Před 8 lety +1

      +Marty Girl The Holy Spirit of our Lord God knows our hearts, and our minds, He is all about Love, and even if they changed His name , do you think He would Love us any less, of course not, Let,s just say,
      Love Is His Name

    • @josephinemullar7857
      @josephinemullar7857 Před 8 lety +5

      Marty Girl Please explain all or some of the mistranslations by the scribes into Greek? These translators were not the Pharisees who turned Yah'shua over to be crucified different time-period of about 150yrs.

    • @rogermoore770
      @rogermoore770 Před 8 lety +2

      +Marty Girl what's the huge lie? what was changed if your talking about changing a name thats common from one country to the next and that doesn't change the actual story im not trying to get at you just the truth

  • @darkobul1
    @darkobul1 Před 9 lety +5

    Its easy question regarding Abraham claiming Sarah was his sister. He did not lie you see. We all come from same ancestor parents and we all are brothers and sisters. He did not lie just did not specify context of a claim.

    • @susanminor7850
      @susanminor7850 Před 8 lety +6

      +Darko Bulatovic You're right, Abraham didn't lie at all.. Actually, Sarah was his sister. they had the same father (Terah), but different mothers.. :)

  • @nasesplace
    @nasesplace Před 8 lety +15

    The story of Noah and Hamm is about Hamm refusing to be a COVERING to Noahs nakedness!We are to clothe the naked by not pointing out guilt!The other two sons COVERED him and chose to not have an EVIL EYE!

  • @LACHRA1
    @LACHRA1 Před 8 lety +31

    Best thing is to pray to The Almighty that you want to know The Truth, not interpretations of translators who use their imagination to fill in the gabs in the text. Pray and beg The Almighty in the name of His Son, The Son of man, The Savior of our soul, spirit and body, not to be fooled by lying spirits! You can read in 1 Kings chapter 22 verse 22 and 2 Tess. chapter 2 verse 9 - 12 about those lying spirits. People who abuse, take advantage of weaknesses of others, who earn money with cheating, who kill and bomb innocent people, have no empathy for others, who don't have mercy for their fellow man, CAN NOT HAVE THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH, mostly their are wolves in sheep clothing. May The Good Lord bless all of you and stop the reign of evil in our world!

    • @lomaxx27
      @lomaxx27 Před 7 lety +3

      hear hear
      same alter
      good comment
      bless you too

    • @LACHRA1
      @LACHRA1 Před 7 lety +2

      Frankie Max Thanks.

  • @andrewsapia
    @andrewsapia Před 8 lety +7

    would it be more proper to call them proto-Gnostics, as in they have this secret sectarian knowledge.

  • @Leolioness44
    @Leolioness44 Před 8 lety +23

    absolutely not the Lord Yahweh Yeshua were against religion. and with the Gentiles being grafted in because the Jews rejected Yeshua as Messiah. these writings are for the world not just Israel butt Israel has an obligation to the world to give the correct translation interpretation the the Scrolls and of the Torah. the written history and words spoken to the prophets of Yeshua through his holy spirit forgiven to the world as he is the Holy Redeemer for eternal life. it is totally the responsibility of Israel to present the holy words to the world.

  • @rickworth7089
    @rickworth7089 Před 8 lety +11

    as david struggles with his monster he seeks gods help thru meditation .... goliath is hit in-between his eyes ... this is the third eye and pineal gland .. the sling is the kundalini ... severed head ... separating what is above from what is below ... classic meditation story

  • @motorhead6763
    @motorhead6763 Před 8 lety +3

    Actually may have been shaimus to be disposed by burial under orthodox laws. It should be noted that NO Jewish research was allowed to study scrolls until 1992! Catholic and Christian scholars had a lock down on them....are we positive in 40years they didn't ( by mistake of course) alter or lose anything along the way...book of Isaiah shows original Hebrew Tanakh accurate....thingaboutit !

    • @rogermoore770
      @rogermoore770 Před 8 lety +3

      when the scrolls were first discovered by a local his wife used some of them as kindling in their stove to cook on they had no idea what they had in their possession so god knows how much was burnt or what else was written

  • @markpate4295
    @markpate4295 Před 8 lety

    Did he just talk about the Talmud?

    • @chyah3
      @chyah3 Před 7 lety

      There are 24 books in the Bible, and over 200 books in Qumran collection. Many of the books other than the 24 (except Esther isn't found in the collection - an example of female messiah) are mystical ways to continue the first Temple and others are commentaries. The commentaries on Jewish law, for example, how to find someone guilty of certain types of crime -- first you have to give notice or a warning -- matches those in Talmud. So not only is there continuity in Torah writings, but in the oral teachings or commentaries as well.

  • @Leolioness44
    @Leolioness44 Před 8 lety +37

    Catholics changed the Ten Commandments. because they worship the sun god of Horus so they worship Horace on his day which is Sunday. not the holy Sabbath day of rest.

    • @egdduddy2618
      @egdduddy2618 Před 8 lety +16

      +Annette Herrera Catholics worship The one true God - The undisputed Master of all Universes, who created all things. He created the Angels and the incredible Human souls. From him all things were made and through Christ, his only begotten son, The Lord of Hosts and glory of the Universe who came in the flesh of Master Jesus- as The Lord's holy anointed King of the Jews. Master Jesus taught us to humble ourselves before Our Lord and pray in his name. This is the truth. The Lord sent Christ to enlighten the world by creating a safety buffer to him through Master Jesus , the risen Lord. When you meet Master Jesus Adonai (Hashem) then you will be in no doubt of the Glory of The Lord. When he reveals himself to the World in all his Glory, the true Jewish people will stand up and be exalted in Heaven by the Angels and throughout the Universe by all beings for giving everyone the Son of God ascended. Me being a silly old Catholic that worships false Gods and stuff - who knows what will happen to me - probably Hell fire or something. Do I care not a bit..The Lord is so Glorious he can put me in Hell and I'll still praise his glory.

  • @thezeptetis5087
    @thezeptetis5087 Před 8 lety

    ball?

  • @noagondolin
    @noagondolin Před 8 lety +11

    The most important messages are written in all non biblical texts! Bible maybe correct, but not complete, thanks to the early Roman christian church who composed the bible accepting only what connected their own vision, not Gods nor Yeshua's. By reading and examinating only bible, you will not know everything, neighter the true messages ever given by Yeshua. Btw: bible is based on the Dead Sea scrolls, that's a fact. Then we have the Nag Hammadi scrolls, apocrypha, lost and hidden books, and finally the lost gospel of pistis sophia: who all teaches the real and only true gospel of Yeshua. Bible's gospels are all quiet the same biographies of Yeshua with some sayings, but not all sayings who mankind has to know to be saved as Yeshua means we would! Bible includes a big shortness we need to know, but by reading and believing only bible nobody shall be saved in the way Yeshua told his disciples. Accually, the most important message in bible is the New Testament, isn't it? Then why is it that small? Never asked that question? Blessed!

  • @willhart6110
    @willhart6110 Před 9 lety +2

    It makes sense that Jewish sholars would intensively study these scrolls written by men who were after all Jews. Yes, they will have a different interpretation of them than Moslems and Christians, who find Mohammed and Jesus even if they aren't present so that all these Babylonian confusions can contnue forever...

  • @poptoppup
    @poptoppup Před 8 lety +21

    Why do Christians want so bad to worship Yahweh? Why does anyone think he is Jesus father? it seems clear we are to move forward from the law. Not mix the old and new wine. Jesus defeated the law, hung it on the cross. he says that Moses never saw his father, no one "could have and lived." is clear that the names Elohim and Yahweh were change to God for confusion. forget Yahweh believe in Jesus " the only way to his to his father is through him " The Book of Enoch is wonderful if you hadn't read it you shouldn't judge it. Seems like folks are very scared of it, it tells the whole truth. it was written for today as was the new testament. Yahweh is the God of the Jews Jesus is the God of Christians . Yahweh offered carnal things Jesus offers spiritual. I'm almost starting to believe that Elohim created our spirits in their likeness and Yahweh trapped us in a body. Seems almost like a strong delusion. Jesus said "my people die for a lack of knowledge" Enoch points to the answer which is Jesus. to you worship Yahweh become a Jew. After reading the Bible do you want to be judged by Yahweh or Jesus? He is the same yesterday today and forever. why would he change his name. why would he be jealous. Is Yahweh calling himself God and "I am" what caused the fall? Christians need to read the New Testament and Jesus's teachings and not listen to the silly preachers that have been trained by Zionists to bring the word in a different light. they are only helping with the strong delusion. Please somebody show me where Jesus said Yahweh was his father. I was raised by a Christian preacher in a Christian home then I read the Bible and learned what Jesus said and not what the preacher say. The truth will truly set you free. Bless

    • @MegaMollymoomoo
      @MegaMollymoomoo Před 8 lety +3

      Funny I've wondered the same thing, YWHW is a God of war & wrath whereas Jesus seems so different!! Sometimes I think maybe the "fall of man" was when we were tricked into taking human form & enter the material realm, thus being "separated" from God the original creator... This awful YWHW character spoke to Abraham from a burning bush...just like a firey demonic entity... then instructed him to go out & commit mass genocide in his name....just like a warfaring negative demonic entity... In the New Testament, it describes the "fruits of the holy spirit"...this YWHW does not seem to possess such qualities as kindness, patience, long suffering like Jesus...

    • @MrGoonGod
      @MrGoonGod Před 8 lety +6

      you do realise that his name wasn't jesus the letter J didn't come into existence untill the 16th century.

    • @MegaMollymoomoo
      @MegaMollymoomoo Před 8 lety +2

      Wasn't the character's name really something like Yeshua Josephus?

    • @poptoppup
      @poptoppup Před 8 lety +4

      Yes Yeshua is his name and he is all that matters, Everything else is to confuse and divide all you need is him. I say give me the red letters and Ill be just fine. Molly have you been properly introduced to him. I would love to share the truth with you anytime, Thats hard to find on you tube.LOL

  • @linofreek52
    @linofreek52 Před 7 lety +8

    Religion is soooo complicated ? you have to interpret , decide what is true , leave things out ...question everything ?
    Here we are thousands of years later following a bunch of fables and we still don,t get it ? Not a single jot of evidence
    in Egypt about Exodus or even Moses , they who recorded everything in detail , makes you think? There are so many explanations even for the "miracles" and so called virgin birth ......all to be taken with a pinch of salt me thinks .

  •  Před 9 lety +3

    god made the world in 6 days and rested on the 7th he didnt make it in 7 days like said here on this vid!

    • @user-yu3kg3zi8n
      @user-yu3kg3zi8n Před 8 lety +1

      +Jay Mee
      do you believe realy that God rested ? God is not weak and he does not need rest like humans .
      . Holy Quran (50-38)

    •  Před 8 lety

      w.e lol

    • @holmes12001
      @holmes12001 Před 8 lety +1

      +Mourad Chakrafi ....ummmm..The 7th Day God rested NOT because he needed to rest...but because he was showing us the sabbath...the 7th day is for rest.....Not interested in any of your quranic nonsensical logic...Jesus saves....

    • @PresidentCamacho2024
      @PresidentCamacho2024 Před 8 lety

      +Jay Mee only six days of work and expects eternal worshipping for it,..

  • @rickworth7089
    @rickworth7089 Před 8 lety +7

    lets not leave out Jacobs ladder .. another meditation story ... teaches us how to get to god .... u have to oil up ur stone/pineal gland .. and then u dream of a ladder stretching from earth to heaven .. this is the kundalini ... he meets god face to face .. calls the place pineal ... and is restored

    • @fraukeschmidt8364
      @fraukeschmidt8364 Před 8 lety +3

      +Rick Worth Nonsense. Jacob had his dream BEFORE he anointed the stone. Afterward he anointed the stone on which he had lain and made it an altar and called the place the house of God (Beth-el).

    • @rickworth7089
      @rickworth7089 Před 8 lety +2

      Frauke Schmidt frauke no ... u just dont get it .. u have to sacrifice the flesh to even get the ball rolling ... this is him wrestling with himself in the desert ... once this is over then the trip begins ... going from the root chakra first and on up as ur energies are raised till we get to the 6th .. the seat of the soul ... its the result of this journey, because he anointed the stone with oil .. who lays their head on a stone covered with oil? are u mad ? the stone in all the bible stories is talking about the single eye/6th chakra ... u just need to learn how the body works ... the bible is conscious hand book, not a religious relic ... besides our boy Jacob never lived .. he represents u in his story

    • @fraukeschmidt8364
      @fraukeschmidt8364 Před 8 lety +2

      Rick Worth You misread me. I said he dreamt BEFORE he poured oil on the stone. In fact BECAUSE he had had that dream in that place. Eastern mysticism has nothing to do with the Bible story. Yahweh appeared to Jacob in a dream:
      "10 Then Jacob went out from Beersheba and went to Haran. 11 And he arrived at a certain place and spent the night there, because the sun had set. And HE TOOK ONE OF THE STONES of the place and PUT IT UNDER HIS HEAD and SLEPT at that place. 12 And HE DREAMED, and behold, a stairway was set on the earth, and its top touched the heavens. And behold, angels of God were going up and going down on it. 13 And behold, Yahweh was standing beside him,[c] and he said, “I am Yahweh, the God of Abraham your father, and the God of Isaac. The ground on which you were sleeping I will give to you and to your descendants. 14 Your descendants shall be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west, and to the east, and to the north and to the south. And all the families of the earth will be blessed through you and through your descendants. 15 Now behold, I am with you, and I will keep you wherever you go. And I will bring you to this land, for I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised to you.” 16 THEN JACOB AWOKE from his sleep and said, “Surely YAHWEH IS INDEED[d] IN THIS PLACE AND I DID NOT KNOW!” 17 Then he was afraid and said, “How awesome is this place! This is nothing else than the house of God,[e] and this is the gate of heaven!” 18 And JACOB ROSE EARLY in the morning, and HE TOOK THE STONE THAT HE HAD PUT UNDER HIS HEAD AND SET IT UP AS A STONE PILLAR, AND POURED OIL ON TOP OF IT. 19 And he called the name of that place Bethel; however, the name of the city was formerly Luz." (Genesis 28:10-19)
      Jacob slept in a certain place with a stone for a pillow under his head. Yahweh appeared to Jacob in a dream and confirmed the promise he had made to Abraham and Isaac. So then Jacob set the stone upright, poured oil on it (anointed it) and renamed the place from Luz to Bethel.
      The Bible - or the Old Testament in this case - needs to be interpreted in its own context. Jacob wasn't some mystic. He believed in Yahweh and followed him.

    • @rickworth7089
      @rickworth7089 Před 8 lety +3

      nope ... its a meditation story .. its not literal .. its spiritual .. and he describes the 'way' to meet god face to face and he calls this place pineal ... im sorry u don't understand how the body an the mind work together .. but when jesus tells us that u have to enter 'within' it certainly does no mean to enter into a church .. u have to enter within yourself ... all the stories in the bible are of this 'way
      all of them
      thanks for ur effort .. but any one can read a bible .. not everyone knows what they are referring to .. but I do ... peace and love to u my friend

    • @ElCineHefe
      @ElCineHefe Před 8 lety

      The Masonic way certainly is an old way. I'm not sure how a gland can do magic though. If it could, it's secretions could be bottled like magic potion.

  • @randytucker1965
    @randytucker1965 Před 9 lety +3

    If any modern man were to return to the past before moses, they would be a God, they were primitive back then.

    • @timetravel3122
      @timetravel3122 Před 9 lety +15

      im sure if you "modern man" go back to the past i bet you wont even survive back then and perhaps you'll end up being a slave of some empire. you cant even live without iphone nowaday lol

    • @ElCineHefe
      @ElCineHefe Před 8 lety +1

      +Time Travel - I'm sure you're right about that LOL!!!

  • @robertkomarek1387
    @robertkomarek1387 Před 8 lety +3

    Hi, we're from one of the most backward areas of the Bronze Age. That's what it says.

  • @urbancarpet
    @urbancarpet Před 8 lety +9

    talk about a boring lecture....

  • @jackec2
    @jackec2 Před 8 lety +2

    outside the bible......means the outside of heaven....good luck with all that