The Kronk Effect

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  • @chicoamorim429
    @chicoamorim429 Před 2 lety +3047

    The part about the inherent limitations of dialectis was really clever for me. Epiphanic. We allways hear about "the whole being bigger that the sum of the parts" but I've never heard before that the parts are smaler than their sum. When we admit that dialectis are more complex, we usually do it through the expansion of the summation, and not the diminishing of the subtraction.

    • @Candy-fd7po
      @Candy-fd7po Před 2 lety +149

      Eh... yeah! What they said!

    • @crankycal_
      @crankycal_ Před 2 lety +115

      this is too many big words for me to fully comprehend.. but i agree!

    • @Konspirantas
      @Konspirantas Před 2 lety +25

      the true problem arising from dialectics is that it supposes distinctions (or parts) in the whole, while any and all reactions to the whole or its parts is an inner manifestation of the whole itself with no consequence to anything outside the whole thus having no inherent meaning. An object IS only as related to being, if an object is all there is then being is not of any meaning. thus there is no object. This shows that even if A and B are true on their own. Together they negate each others foundation. at this point i have lost the comprehensive in its incomprehensiveness, yet the rattling of a malignant idea inside of a mason jar is entertaining still.

    • @antgrantrant
      @antgrantrant Před 2 lety +1

      i know

    • @corrina1963
      @corrina1963 Před 2 lety +18

      ...this is why im failing math...

  • @TommyLikeTom
    @TommyLikeTom Před 2 lety +2566

    Kronk's value partially lies in his scarcity. He's just not a main character. He's perfect in small quantities. What would his arc be? he's already both enlightened and completely vacant

    • @yuu34567
      @yuu34567 Před 2 lety +118

      He is like a spice

    • @Ixarus6713
      @Ixarus6713 Před 2 lety +96

      Honestly? I think it would be him finally realising that he's being misused and finding a new master to follow and help.

    • @ThomasTheFapEngine
      @ThomasTheFapEngine Před 2 lety +11

      This is why I worry I'll never find a relationship...

    • @bbrbbr-on2gd
      @bbrbbr-on2gd Před 2 lety +2

      Too not find fulfillment in being a Stooge.

    • @loopingmoon1444
      @loopingmoon1444 Před 2 lety +10

      @@ThomasTheFapEngine Am I misunderstanding or are you really saying you are already perfect so there's no point in any arcs?

  • @poetpunk9297
    @poetpunk9297 Před 2 lety +1069

    "it doesn't hold up on a rewatch" RESPECTFULLY, sir, this is the one movie that gets better with each rewatch

    • @magnificloud
      @magnificloud Před 2 lety +129

      HOW COULD HE SAY THAT, ITS ONE OF THE ONLY DISNEY FILMS I COULD REWATCH REGULARLY
      Cj u know we love u but this movie goes so hard pls 😔💔

    • @MaryweatherWA
      @MaryweatherWA Před 2 lety +12

      I’m gonna have to agree with them…. It’s kinda mid

    • @reguba3534
      @reguba3534 Před 2 lety +48

      @@MaryweatherWA Booooo

    • @dinodino5602
      @dinodino5602 Před 2 lety

      +++

    • @M-Jje8nj
      @M-Jje8nj Před 2 lety +28

      @@MaryweatherWA I would say it’s one of those movies that you don’t rewatch very often. I don’t even watch it annually, more like once every two-three years, but it always delivers a consistent experience and is great for what it is (because no one really hypes it up and it’s definitely majorly overlooked overall). I won’t put it on the same level as more famous and generally beloved movies (Lion King, Spider man into the spider verse, etc), because I watched all those together less times than I did Emperor new groove. The reason behind that is because I know damn well that they won’t hold up to the hype I created in my head (thanks to everyone yelling how great those are), I’ll start nitpicking, and the experience, as well as the movie itself, will be ruined. So I’m a coward that prefers a consistent “better than average” experience to “worse than great”

  • @theminecraft4202
    @theminecraft4202 Před 4 měsíci +201

    it's the same reason the best pirates of the carribean films are the first 3 where Will Turner is still the protagonist, the slow shift to Jack Sparrow as a protagonist actively lessens his role as the unreliable mentor and quirky comic relief

    • @vicefandonna1575
      @vicefandonna1575 Před 4 měsíci +2

      Man this was exactly what I was thinking as well

  • @dazeradiation
    @dazeradiation Před rokem +114

    "are you a main character? are you afraid to find out?" gee thanks just what i needed at 2am on a school night

  • @AnteatersAnonymous
    @AnteatersAnonymous Před 2 lety +2183

    I was expecting a 26 minute rant on the nature of himbos, but I'll take another existential crisis. Thanks CJ!

    • @Lona818
      @Lona818 Před 2 lety +49

      Maybe that could be a topic for another video.
      Never loose faith on the nature of himbos as something to talk about.

    • @SJ-dl6uc
      @SJ-dl6uc Před 2 lety +35

      He keeps doing that. Almost every episode he creates a new existential crisis, that more often than not, has a wide reach across an array of demographics.
      They're nuanced too, so now not only you're intrigued and wanna analyze everything, you start to 'self' analyze. The unpacking can be unpleasant.
      Good thing he uses his power for good.
      As a DBT therapist he would be my 'get' if I could get him to certify as a dialectical behavioral therapist.

    • @amne4295
      @amne4295 Před 2 lety +1

      felt this

    • @cass6020
      @cass6020 Před rokem +16

      Somehow, every time I see a new CJ the X video appear, I simultaneously expect the conversation to be more shallow than it ends up being, and dread hitting play for three days knowing it in fact will challenge me more than I'm ready for

    • @RA-xo9fq
      @RA-xo9fq Před rokem +1

      @@cass6020 that’s my favorite part tbh lmfao

  • @nmtltlz
    @nmtltlz Před 2 lety +3514

    You judging the audience while coughing is a demonstration in humility that humbles you. Also its funny

    • @cartoonfreack9671
      @cartoonfreack9671 Před 2 lety +52

      That's alot of words, I personally think they're just going nuts

    • @panadocoughsyrup
      @panadocoughsyrup Před 2 lety +8

      @@cartoonfreack9671 i too think theyre just goin nuts

    • @sS0O0L
      @sS0O0L Před 2 lety +8

      @Joli i think fantasizing about their deaths is like, thinking how it would go, what would be the death cause and how would their funeral be, etc. Is like when u ask ppl if they would cry if you die, yk?

    • @icelandicfaeinPNW
      @icelandicfaeinPNW Před 2 lety +2

      @@cartoonfreack9671 there's no difference between "nuts" and wisdom :)

    • @cartoonfreack9671
      @cartoonfreack9671 Před 2 lety

      @@icelandicfaeinPNW i eat nuts sometimes

  • @pascale.a.w1293
    @pascale.a.w1293 Před 2 lety +672

    I feel like its less 'why do you *really* make art?' and more 'why do you feel the need for people to see that art?'. I think I would have always written songs, poems and just created art no matter what but my 'secret contract' makes me want other people to see that I'm doing it. fuckin banging video CJ

    • @mordcore
      @mordcore Před rokem +24

      yes exactly this! i certainly dont make art with the goal to show it to people. but i show my art to people because of the 'secret contract'. if i didnt care what people thought of me/it i wouldnt put in the effort to upload it anywhere

    • @darling3259
      @darling3259 Před 6 měsíci +12

      EXACTLY!! i actually stopped making stuff when i started posting it online. the shallow attention i received affected the joy i felt making it, but i felt like i had to post it in order for it to be worth my time and energy. and through that vein, i started making things that i felt other people would enjoy, and it was so much less intuitive and more like parroting the other things i was seeing online. holy shit haha

    • @EamonWill
      @EamonWill Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@darling3259
      This is the trap that I have seen art fall into time and time again. Whether it's a youtuber, an artist, or even a company producing a product. We start out with the childlike genuine love of the craft. Then we moved to a stage of adult responsibilities where we have to justify our time based on resources in order to survive. So instead of producing for the love of it we produce for the monetization of it and we push ourselves into blandness and inconsequentiality. We become lost in the masses because we become one of the mass and we no longer stand out. We lose our identity and we no longer care and we crush ourselves under the burden we created.

    • @Envy_May
      @Envy_May Před 2 měsíci

      for me, my motivation for wanting to share things is the way you get to vicariously re-experience the things you like most about the things you share through the shared appreciation from the audience (even if it's implicit i.e. not overtly expressed to you but you know it exists), and there's a sense of connection there as an added bonus

    • @jamesonfromm2903
      @jamesonfromm2903 Před měsícem

      ​@Envy_May I feel this way too, but I think it's important for me to remember not to.... sort of taint the way I make things in order to please others. For example me and my friends, for the most part, joke around, Id like to make more serious stuff but I know my freinds will be more likely to appreciate it if it's all jokes. Sometimes this factor distracts me from what I wanted to make in the first place. I like the funny stuff too but yknow

  • @thetree7403
    @thetree7403 Před 2 lety +142

    I might have been miraculously saved from the main character syndrome at a young age.
    In the series Eragon, Christopher Paolini utilised a side character who had incredible skill and knowledge, without any elaboration and appeared very rarely. I remember, as a kid, being completely avestruck with them (sadly the name escapes my mind after all these years) and wanting to know more, see more of the character. i wanted a whole-ass book, as any kid would. Instead, at the end of one of the books, was a letter from the author, explaining how if he caved in to the readers demands the caracter would loose their charm and purpose in the story.
    It stuck with me. A moment of humility in service of art, or just of competently restrained artistry. It made me grow up wanting to be that person who uplifts the lived stories of others instead of thinking i own the stage of teatrum mundi.

    • @Hitsugayafan12
      @Hitsugayafan12 Před 2 lety +17

      sounds like you’re referring to Angela the witch. i relate to your experience, thanks for sharing it

    • @RoyalHeather
      @RoyalHeather Před 9 měsíci +5

      Didn't he end up writing a book about Angela anyway? lol

    • @LadyLuck-rd5vi
      @LadyLuck-rd5vi Před 3 měsíci +4

      ​@@RoyalHeatherNot a book, he gave Angela a short story in The Fork, The Witch, and The Worm

    • @Asummersdaydreamer14
      @Asummersdaydreamer14 Před 3 měsíci +5

      Sorry to add a bad artistic memory related to Christopher Paolini, but I am still angry at him agreeing to use a book cover made with ai generated material for one of his most recent books.
      I barely can draw stick figures, but I am a reader who loves gorgeous book covers that invites readers to discover the story.
      I have a poor memory for most things and barely remember the plot of the first Eragon book even though I know I enjoyed reading all four books when they were still releasing. I still vividly remember loving how the book cover artist drew Saphira for that first book, and am just put off on the disrespect to other artistic disciplines that generative ai appears to uncover for some people
      Sorry for the rant and feel free to ignore!

    • @MentalWanderings
      @MentalWanderings Před 3 měsíci +2

      Friendly reminder that he wrote a new book about Murtagh. I'm so friggin stoked. Eragon is such a treasured series for me.

  • @sphoeva
    @sphoeva Před 2 lety +1598

    "If I'm a side character, if that is what I'm destined to be, if that's where I'm best utilised, if the art is at its most optimal when I am in a supportive role, then I will be the best supporting role that I can be" - beautifully concluded

  • @marginalyogurt
    @marginalyogurt Před 2 lety +294

    I am aggressively a side character. My sole desire in life is to be a creepy old witch questgiver so that I can watch the young scrappy heroes die and have existential crisis over something I could've done myself.

    • @Robstafarian
      @Robstafarian Před 2 lety +4

      I feel this, deeply.

    • @stupidass69420
      @stupidass69420 Před 2 lety +9

      I’m the funny talking animal but then I unexpectedly turn into an adhd ridden supervillain and cry a lot

    • @Lona818
      @Lona818 Před 2 lety +2

      This is the best chaotic neutral

    • @Orlafis
      @Orlafis Před 2 lety +4

      I also feel like this, I like to be the person people go after when they need to talk, and I'll be waiting with some food, drinks and advice... but some times I relapse into seeking validation and I circle around to return to the point of "I'm doing it for myself and profit" usually when I'm at this point is where people see me as the grandma friend because I'm just content to be a support character.

    • @shilohisbored6591
      @shilohisbored6591 Před 2 lety +2

      you get it!!

  • @LazerzZ
    @LazerzZ Před rokem +138

    I just wanted a funny Kronk video, now I'm in a deep introspective state over whether I'm allowing insecurities to dominate what I create. This video has honestly been so helpful in realising that inner reason for why I create and to be able to then keep it at bay rather than ignore it entirely to hopefully better serve the creation process.
    Also this channel is absolutely the best channel.

  • @tatumfowler8362
    @tatumfowler8362 Před 2 lety +167

    This’ll probably get buried, but I just wanted to give you a sincere thank you. I stumbled across your channel and was so enthralled I couldn’t help but watch basically every video you’ve put out. You really inspired me to sit down and reconnect with myself, which wasn’t a positive experience, but it’s one I desperately needed to have. I’ve felt so aimless for so long in my creative endeavors because I was scared to just talk to myself and work out what was wrong and what I could do to fix it.
    I’m usually always listening to something, be it music or video essays or podcasts. I tell myself it’s cause I have severe tinnitus(which I do) and just hate the constant noise(which I do), but I also realized I just don’t wanna be alone with my own thoughts for too long. They’re chaotic and frantic and cruel and exhausting. Despite that, I challenged myself, sat in silence, and wrote shit down on paper with a pen like some sort of caveman.
    It was a really genuine experience, and I feel like I haven’t had a genuine experience with myself in a very long time. Obviously just doing it once won’t be enough, but it’s a start. So thank you for shouting at me through my phone screen until I felt inspired to just talk to myself for once.

  • @marginalyogurt
    @marginalyogurt Před 2 lety +259

    I liked Kronk because I was like 7 and he feels bisexual. This is the ultimate commentary and all naysayers should gaze upon their worthless souls and despair.

  • @KuncanDastner
    @KuncanDastner Před 2 lety +4853

    I will never be able to fully express how this is my favorite channel on youtube

  • @phastinemoon
    @phastinemoon Před 4 měsíci +7

    Okay, but that tangent about Aladdin and the King of Thieves also made me tear up. Have a hug, sweetie, you deserve it

  • @caleighhraee
    @caleighhraee Před rokem +65

    Once I realized I’m utilized better and thrive better on being a supporting role in my field has actually been one of the best things to happen to me. In all my other jobs I was very good at being a leader and quickly (under a year) I was asked to accept higher and higher positions. I thought I was doing what I was meant to do because I had such quality work that was getting recognized so quickly. But my mental and physical health suffered immensely. A lot of people at my job now tell me all the time I should move up, I’m so smart, I’d be so good at it, and it’s all true, but I lose myself in that pursuit every time. I’m much happier and healthier being a supporting role and contributing to the over all success of my team. I have a home life balance, I produce quality work, and I’m recognized for it. Why would I pursue leadership when it turns my core rotten? My mom always raised me to be the best and get the highest role at any place I worked for, and I had this demented thought that if I didn’t achieve those roles and get the money that comes with it, that I’d be a failure. But I’m a failure when all I do is create. I need rest a lot more than the average person and I can’t tolerate the demand that comes from that. And that’s okay. It’s okay to get paid less. It’s okay to not have the highest title. It’s okay to just be the absolute best at the position that works best for how I function as a human being. I’m not settling, I’m thriving. It makes me sad my family doesn’t accept that or think anything good about it. I’m finally at my happiest and that’s my own goal, I don’t care if it disappoints others anymore.

    • @WhySoPrettyJinsoul.
      @WhySoPrettyJinsoul. Před rokem +5

      what a beautiful comment, I hope you are still pursuing what works the best for you no matter what anyone else say

    • @monkey8464
      @monkey8464 Před 4 měsíci

      Do you still feel this way? Genuinely curious one year later!

    • @rowanfrady5649
      @rowanfrady5649 Před 4 měsíci

      "I'm not settling. I'm thriving." I love that line so much. Thank you for your comment.

  • @annahughes8272
    @annahughes8272 Před 2 lety +673

    Come for the silly animated himbo, stay for the world altering analysis of each of our souls in terrifying detail and accuracy
    thanks CJ

    • @heatherlee2967
      @heatherlee2967 Před 2 lety +1

      Lamo same

    • @francescafrancesca3554
      @francescafrancesca3554 Před 2 lety +3

      Welcome to the ride! It's amazing, I love it and I hope you enjoy it too. I recommend to check out their other stuff, it's amazing too (in my opinion, obviously)! Have a good day :)

    • @fundiptimes
      @fundiptimes Před 2 lety +2

      That's just how CJ's videos are

    • @sideysophie
      @sideysophie Před 2 lety +6

      Same. They're chanel is thought provoking, consuming and addictive and captivating

    • @axelmont
      @axelmont Před 2 lety

      lmfao this

  • @stephenferro6536
    @stephenferro6536 Před 2 lety +798

    Kronk's New Groove may not be conventionally "good," but it has that one "Don't cry for me, Marge and Tina" pun. So I'm gonna have to give it an objective 10/10 score

    • @nailinthefashion
      @nailinthefashion Před 2 lety +38

      It’s about Kronk so 10/10

    • @lpchambers3681
      @lpchambers3681 Před 2 lety +9

      That’s a beautiful pun!

    • @whatdoyousuppose
      @whatdoyousuppose Před 2 lety +27

      I had to literally rewind the film because I was mouth aGAPE at that glorious pun that I needed to hear it again to confirm that it happened. Cringe culture is dead, this movie is a solid 10/10 for me.

    • @doctorwholover1012
      @doctorwholover1012 Před 2 lety +11

      Idk the swimming scene where the doll gets wet and the female camp leader gets *Serious Voice* angry was + is still hilarious to me, like kronk's immediate himbo reaction of "I mean it IS swim class......" - completely failing to read the room.... peak humour 👌🏻😅

    • @EspaALSC
      @EspaALSC Před 2 lety +3

      YES! Somebody is *finally* talking about this joke. I love it too!

  • @reynao.3671
    @reynao.3671 Před rokem +7

    Seeing drew and khadijah and Savannah in the end were like exciting little cameos and Easter eggs

  • @howl9955
    @howl9955 Před rokem +26

    thought i was going to get a standard video ripping apart a terrible sequel. instead got an essay getting me to reassess my motivations for making art and reframing my view of dialectics in a way i never anticipated. absolutely incredible. instant subscribe.

  • @GraybeeBaby
    @GraybeeBaby Před 2 lety +454

    The fact that asking “why do you make things” followed by “why do you really make things” is so universally understood in terms of what the answers should be like just proves this videos point so perfectly.

  • @GraceGH
    @GraceGH Před 2 lety +606

    I swear, I swear on my own pathetic life: Kronk's New Groove was my childhood movie. That one movie kids watch over and over again? Mine was Kronk's New Groove. NEVER in my 18 years of existence have I EVER seen anyone else refer to this film, and it has shaken me to my core. Thank you.

    • @martinapassaggi6058
      @martinapassaggi6058 Před 2 lety +25

      YES I finally found someone else😭
      Also the raisin bread scene is incredible

    • @mankosdream6138
      @mankosdream6138 Před 2 lety +16

      i LOVED this movie. everytime i mention it, people think i’m talking about Emperors new grove but i’m NOT. the raisin bread scene is the most perfect scene and the betrayal during the cheer off at the end is amazing and perfect

    • @duke86fan
      @duke86fan Před 2 lety +5

      i wouldn't call it "childhood movie" but i have seen it a moderate amount of times.. more than the original and i only feel 59% ashamed of it

    • @ChageeyaSarang
      @ChageeyaSarang Před 2 lety +6

      Hey yooo loved both movies. Kronk is such a sweetheart

    • @WarKeineAbsicht
      @WarKeineAbsicht Před 2 lety +2

      Yesssss, I loved it so much. Probably wouldn't have as much if I had seen Emperor's New Groove first. But I didn't. I saw it way later and it was less fun that way. Whichever you watch first is the better movie

  • @llamaish5507
    @llamaish5507 Před 2 lety +20

    When it comes to the “Why do you create?” & “Why do you REALLY create?” I found myself giving basically the same answer. I like things. And when I like things, I think about them VERY intensely. I think about them often and I think about them deeply. Doesn’t matter if it’s an existing pice of media or something I made myself, I’ll end up thinking about it.
    It gets to the point where my thinking about the thing overrides my ability to do tasks or go places. The thoughts become a LOT, and they get in the way, but I love them and I don’t want to just forget them. Creating allows me to funnel out the thoughts and turn them into something I can actually look at and inspect. As I inspect I may come up with new thoughts that can then turn into a new artwork.
    This process allows me to function properly and do things with the added bonus of being very fun. I love to create things, and I love to look at the things I made and have them inspire new things. I like to look at something I created and go, “I made that!”
    And I asked myself the second question over and over but I genuinely couldn’t find another answer. I like to show people the things I make, but a good chuck of my creations are personal. Sure, likes and kind comments feel nice, but I very deeply love looking at things I created and knowing I created them; knowing I can take electricity from the oddity that is the human brain and turn it into something I can see. Who knows, I might be fooling myself, but if I love what I’m doing and what I’m making, I don’t know how much that matters.
    TLDR I guess: I create because there are a lot of creative thoughts that need to go somewhere or I don’t function right. Bonus points - its fun.

  • @cS3th
    @cS3th Před 2 lety +17

    I cannot stress how much I relate to your ability to evoke complete and utter chaos while lying in bed coughing.

  • @jShark
    @jShark Před 2 lety +522

    You know CJ is definitely sick when there’s not a single mention of Miraculous in a video, hopin for a speedy recovery :)

  • @JessieGender1
    @JessieGender1 Před 2 lety +872

    How dare you release this essay the same day literally wrote a script where I talk to myself pre and post transition. HOW ARE YOU IN MY BRAIN!?!?

    • @phosphenevision
      @phosphenevision Před 2 lety +30

      oh hi jessie 👋

    • @DaysieRose
      @DaysieRose Před 2 lety +16

      Ooh I can't wait to see ❤️❤️❤️

    • @antonizajkowski9698
      @antonizajkowski9698 Před 2 lety +6

      what's the connotation?

    • @TC-ry1jw
      @TC-ry1jw Před 2 lety +34

      I'm more and more convinced that CJ is a manifestation of all of our subconscious with every video released. Chaotic introspection incarnate.

    • @poeticsparrow
      @poeticsparrow Před 2 lety +6

      @@TC-ry1jw I'm am so sick with the flu right now and this video feels like a gift from the great synchronous algorithm consciousness

  • @jessislistless
    @jessislistless Před 2 lety +14

    I actually loved Kronk's new groove. It was one of my favourite movies growing up because I wanted to see Kronk happy as well after unconsciously working for the bad guy.

  • @francisjones1409
    @francisjones1409 Před rokem +15

    Unironically, as some who struggles with what I like to call “chronic side character syndrome”, Part 1 of this vid was unexpectedly really reassuring. Felt like a little therapy sesh to remind myself that I DONT have to be the main character, and that ppl need side characters just as much. Idk, it was just a nice little surprise reassurance ✊💖

  • @insomniacg
    @insomniacg Před 2 lety +158

    I would absolutely watch a 2 hour supercut of CJ asking various creators "Why do you REALLY make things?"

  • @janevim11
    @janevim11 Před 2 lety +590

    oh fuck, the "justifying my existence and belaying the necessity of a suicide" part encapsulated my relationship with my own existence so perfectly. thanks.

    • @frogpaste4616
      @frogpaste4616 Před 4 měsíci

      eyy *half-hearted high-five of begrudging solidarity*

  • @ajbuckner1765
    @ajbuckner1765 Před rokem +12

    i know this comment will probably get buried, but i think i can honestly say that you are one of my favorite content creators right now. i normally find most video essayists boring, and their actual commentary and topics they choose to talk about is something that has been done countless times by others. you always bring something new to the table. i never thought i'd be so thoroughly invested in a video titled "the kronk effect" but here we are. your ability to actually make me laugh out loud while watching all of your videos is so amazing to me. keep on doing what you do, cj

  • @Viazerd
    @Viazerd Před 2 lety +4

    I discovered dialectics in college and it permanently changed my perspective, and this was such a fantastic development to that worldview. fuck you're good at this.

  • @Luedag
    @Luedag Před 2 lety +353

    “Art is God incarnate and we’re manifesting Heaven on Earth”. Your video about Wandavision has been pivotal in helping me understand my own behavioral patterns as an addict, it has been a crucial contribution to my sobriety, and has helped keep me alive. I have no choice but to wholeheartedly agree.

    • @ellipszilonq
      @ellipszilonq Před 2 lety +21

      This comment gave me chills. Congrats on your progress dude, you should be very proud!

    • @cb-wi1cq
      @cb-wi1cq Před 2 lety

      I'm glad you're here

    • @Luedag
      @Luedag Před 2 lety

      Aww you guys

  • @mockturtlesuppe
    @mockturtlesuppe Před 2 lety +962

    The incredible thing about the interviews at the end is that _everybody immediately knew what you meant_ when you asked "Why do you _really_ make things?" All creators are already aware of that dialectic reality inside themselves (otherwise I don't think they'd have the self awareness to create in the first place) but they don't always acknowledge it.

    • @h3xon797
      @h3xon797 Před 2 lety +9

      I think those were all people who had already seen a first draft of the video.

    • @sasentaiko
      @sasentaiko Před 2 lety +23

      It’s cool that these interviewees got it quickly, but I don’t think all creators are aware. (I believe everyone’s a creator!) The fear side is absolutely enough to drive creation-and sometimes the product is quite good, though that’s rarely sustainable. I think the moments when we are most afraid of acknowledging the hidden fear-based contract are the moments we most need to stop and engage. (If quality is the goal. Sometimes it is not, and for good reason.)

    • @krisdijne
      @krisdijne Před 2 lety +12

      Or maybe it was cut that way🤷‍♀️

    • @GiantPetRat
      @GiantPetRat Před 2 lety +3

      I think I remember Daniel Radcliffe saying in an interview once that all actors are lowkey intrinsically narcisists, because if they weren't they wouldn't really be able to act with confidence, and confidence is of course vital to creating a convincing character.

    • @lucyandecember2843
      @lucyandecember2843 Před 2 lety +2

      @@GiantPetRat o.o

  • @Alex_Barbosa
    @Alex_Barbosa Před 2 lety +23

    This channel is going to be big I'm telling you it's only a matter of time. Every single video man, it's mirror to humanities soul.

  • @stephaniegalliart859
    @stephaniegalliart859 Před 2 lety +7

    Damn, I've been in a wretched art slump for years due to the psychological barrier between secretly and internally recognizing why I really did art, and the shame that came with that, because I seemed to be surrounded by nothing but performative people who do art for art's sake. Your words fucking cured me and reminded me of why I ever did art to begin with. This was exactly what I needed to hear. Thanks, dude.

  • @mirensummers7633
    @mirensummers7633 Před 2 lety +155

    I replaced "art" with "science" when thinking about this and it made a lot of my motivations very clear

    • @Olwwolf
      @Olwwolf Před 2 lety +7

      Same!
      And I think a lot of things that are true about art are also true about science. The desire to understand and describe the world around us is as inherent as the drive to create and connect through art.

    • @jareerareerarr5053
      @jareerareerarr5053 Před 2 lety

      ​@@Olwwolf i think u could also say that about all academia

    • @mirensummers7633
      @mirensummers7633 Před 2 lety

      @@Olwwolf yes! I do cancer research at masters level and it definitely feels like an art sometimes

  • @maxiargos1971
    @maxiargos1971 Před 2 lety +17

    Honestly I make art for myself and never others, and I decided to do this years ago. With out getting too into it I grew up watching TV and consuming as much as I could from the media growing up, since I didn't go out very much. These shows, movies, and what have you kept telling me how great being popular is or how you should be popular, and the attention from others is something everyone wants. But due to how I look, acted, and my art skills growing up where negative in a sense. I was never seen as a girl, and the moment I realized I was trans. I was told by my loved ones no I am not for years from so many people in my life, that my feelings do not matter. And I am oddly okay with that, cause what is the point of giving art, my work, or myself to people who don't even deserve it.
    My art that I drew as a child I mostly did to see if I could draw it, and I could, and I was happy just to see if I could just draw a pokemon, a house, animals, anime, and anything really. I was happy over stuff like that as a kid. But my mom used my art to better herself around her older siblings by making me her trophy child, the friends I once had in highschool I was really deeply caring for used my art, clamed it as there own, all for a moment to get praised from people in there group, and for that art to be thrown away or given to by others like the trash it is. But uuhhhhh..ahahaha. Thank got for writing my name and dates on the back of each of my works, since they where exposed for that shit real quick. But then I found out that the art I was told didn't mattered or got much attention by others would get stolen by random people online.
    Thank goodness that was years ago and a lot of these people kept getting found out, exposed, and just went offline due to there actions. To add to the things that are my life I also got negative attention from people from them just looking at me, and they would talk to me in such a way that it would lower my self in a way I don't think I can ever recover from. "Why don't you look like your mom? Are you adopted? Why are you not pretty like her?" "You are a girl, why don't you act like it? Stop acting like a boy! You are 10 now." "You are dating now so are you pregnant yet? AHAHAHA! You are not ace. That's not a real thing." "You are so ugly. Why don't you fix that?" "You are not trans. You are just saying that." "Stop crying! You look ugly when you cry so stop it!" So because of how I am viewed and seen I hated the fact for years of others looking at me, and if It was positive I know it would be because others would want something from me in that negative light. All for themselves then then caring about me.
    Because of these factors I just really hate people. Don't get me wrong I did meet some wonderful people through out my years, but the negative outweighs the positive. Not so much the effects, but me having nothing but mostly negative things happen to me by other people. So much so that if anytime I make anything that is my art. All my art is never for others. It's all for me. I will never show my art unless I have a way to protect it and make sure others don't get a profit from stealing it, and calming it as there own. It's something I like and want to draw, and I want to say this. And want to end this whole thing by saying this. After bring my self down, after all the shit I was given through out my growth, and up bringing, and how I am stuck living in Texas with no real way to ever get out or change my body to FTM, due to family never wanting me to grow, and me having no way to do that. As odd as this sounds. The video you made "No Way Home Was Kind of Sexist", where you talked about your worth, your skill, and your body and how to treat it. Was so powerful and moving that I needed to hear it. Like...I was never told that, and it meant so much to me that I started to draw again after thinking about stopping again. And I am going to keep making art for myself, and if others like it, then great, but over all I am not doing it for other people, or have a drive to prove myself to strangers, but to make my art so I can grow my skills, and be in a place with my art where I can be happy with it.

    • @gamemultiplier1750
      @gamemultiplier1750 Před 2 lety +8

      I know that I am just an internet stranger whose words you are reading on a screen, but I really hope that you will obtain the freedom you desire and that you will happen upon the people who will love you and value you not for what you can contribute, but for the wonderful person that you are. Don't stop stoking the fire within you that drives you to create, even if it is just for your own sake.

  • @goblin3359
    @goblin3359 Před 2 lety +6

    You are magnificent. Even while sick you manage to make a video that is thoughtful, profound, mind-bendingly complex and yet so simple. Thank you.

  • @ewwpoorpeople5684
    @ewwpoorpeople5684 Před 2 lety +756

    Gotta feed the content machine. Feed us the himbo.

  • @chiaramangold7758
    @chiaramangold7758 Před 2 lety +195

    I did acting for 9 of my 12 years of school and then during my last performance as a background character I realized I had so much more fun that year than any other because due to my small role on stage I could involve myself so much more backstage. I realized the reason I enjoyed theatre so much wasn't because I had attention for 2 hours (that turned out to be the worst part actually) but because I was part of creating something, part of saying something to an audience. And from backstage I could concentrate on the show as a patchwork of pieces rather than just having to focus on my own real time contribution while under direct scrutiny. Theatre is my personal favorite form of art and I have learned to appreciate it so much more from my new role as "side character" to the point of actively pursuing a career in stage management

    • @hurricanerae
      @hurricanerae Před 2 lety +4

      As a professional theatre "side character" I commend your new goal. I'm paid shit and often my work is least acknowledged when it's at it's best, but it is deeply satisfying ultimately to be in the service of art and contributing my strongest skills to the creation of it.

    • @Kaloapoele
      @Kaloapoele Před 2 lety +2

      Techie 🖤 lol

  • @mordcore
    @mordcore Před rokem +3

    thanks for the food for thought! i think at least some of my fear-based contract is that i want to prove to myself that there's nothing inherently wrong with me and that i can also make things that people will find cool and funny and thoughtful and its not my "fatal flaw" stopping me. anytime i post something witty on tumblr i go like "better tag this with relevant hashtags so that people will find this and validate me" and everytime a post of mine takes off im somewhat annoyed at the notifications but theres this internal "i knew it! i CAN be cool and popular! my highschool bullies were wrong".
    i recently realized that i'm not really interested in twitch streaming and only wanted to do it to feel like i can belong with the cool streamers i know.
    thinking about my drawings and comic though that one feels the most like i just do it because it's fun and because i have this cool story in my head that wants to get out and wouldnt it be cool if i could share it with people and maybe find people who like it as well. and theres again the maybe people will think its cool and i get validation that i can be just as good as other artists but i feel like its a smaller part of it and ill get just the same enjoyment or even more if it stays obscure forever and just something to show my friends and obsess over the same characters together! one of the characters isnt even my own creation, a friend made him and when she quit the project she made him for she gave me the rights to him because he already lives in my head rent-free and i just have to let him out its like this inner creativity thats just a Need i need to Make things or i will go insane. the ideas need to come out or i will explode. stuff just kinda happens by itself and if a comic comes out of it thats cool but the reason i do it most of all is because its fun and i enjoy the process

  • @simonfernandezwu5957
    @simonfernandezwu5957 Před 2 lety +4

    that ending was incredible

  • @eleanorelmore
    @eleanorelmore Před 2 lety +535

    As someone with the same two wolves inside me, the whole question of trauma creating art can actually be easily answered by some old Beatles documentary I saw. They were talking about drugs leading to creativity and the documentary concluded (correctly in my opinion) that drugs can give you an experience but any art created from that experience is created from your creativity not the experience. You can have all the experience but no creativity and your art would suck. You can also have little experience (no one really has no experience in my opinion but that’s another argument) but a lot of creativity and make great art. See also the Michael Fassbender movie Frank.

    • @eleanorelmore
      @eleanorelmore Před 2 lety +27

      The Devil and Daniel Johnston is another good text here. There’s a real temptation to say Johnston’s schizophrenia contributed to his creativity because it influenced everything he made. However you know at the end of the day you know that Daniel Johnston was just an incredibly talented singer songwriter who happened to have schizophrenia. He had the same experience over and over again day in and day out and so all his creativity was devoted to rendering musically this one experience. But if Johnston wasn’t having this experience he would just aim his creativity at some other experience.

    • @kneptoon03
      @kneptoon03 Před 2 lety +17

      currently 2 minutes into the video, which I thought was gonna be about Kronk’s New Groove, scrolled down, and got absolute whiplash from this comment. looks like I’m in for a wild one lmao and that’s how you know you’re watching a CJ video

    • @ProjektBurn
      @ProjektBurn Před 2 lety

      This exactly

    • @illusionfaderr5394
      @illusionfaderr5394 Před 2 lety

      damn. this rlly makes one appreciate creativity.

  • @rynheller6634
    @rynheller6634 Před 2 lety +716

    I recently had a really bad breakdown about feeling my artistic output isnt good enough, this video sorta came at the perfect time for me-it was really a wake up call. I think for a while a part of me lost track of why I create and both my art and mental health were suffering because of it. So yea, just wanted to say thanks, this really helped me a lot today!

    • @meddle333
      @meddle333 Před 2 lety +7

      I feel that sentiment deeply

    • @yotimusic
      @yotimusic Před 2 lety +5

      Fr I think the trajectory of my life was changed by this video

    • @DetectiveOlivaw
      @DetectiveOlivaw Před 2 lety +4

      Same, real bad spiral recently, felt my efforts had no value or worth to anyone, started to climb out of it, and then watched this video. CJ says what we need to hear, and by we I mean me specifically

  • @icelandicfaeinPNW
    @icelandicfaeinPNW Před 2 lety +3

    My whole new philosophy in the past few years has been to worship and serve love and art. This video is sending me -
    WE ARE ON THE SIDE OF ART
    great work as always cj 🥰

  • @vaehtay
    @vaehtay Před 5 měsíci +4

    Took a moment to reflect on the secret contract thing that he mentioned. Think my contract might be a bit different than a desire to be seen (though certainly still connected). I create because it feels like it would be too much of a shame to let all of the nonsense inside my brain fade away without being shared with the world. It feels like if I don’t try to take my thoughts and express them to others in a way that I hope can help them feel what I feel, then those thoughts might as well have not been real at all. The ephemeral nature of my own emotions and ideas horrifies me. If I’m not here to feel what I’m feeling think, who will? If I can’t convey the strong emotions I experience from stories I create or things I connect with to others in simple words, to make them *truly* understand the agony and glee and terror that I derive from them, I’ll have to try another medium. I create because I fear the fact that if I don’t, the ideas I have could be lost forever.
    (Most of my creation revolves around, as I briefly, storytelling-not interpretation. Interpretation can be an art of its own, but I feel like I’m less driven to express my interpretations of things because it’s so easy for other people to interpret something similarly enough for me to say “yeah, that’s nearly exactly how I feel”, even if they don’t nail every nuance. With storytelling, I know that no one is going to replicate *every single detail* that I have conjured up about my characters, and I know exactly how much every little detail matters, because without them no one will share a similar experience to like with my stories. I don’t know if other people will resonate with my interpretations of media. But I *make them* resonate with my characters.)

  • @greywolfofwinte
    @greywolfofwinte Před 2 lety +147

    I always liked what David Lynch had to say on art, trauma, and meditation:
    Interviewer: But what about artists who need turmoil to create? I hear creative people say all the time, ‘I can only make work when I’m depressed. I can only make work when I feel awful, when I’m calm and peaceful nothing happens.’
    Lynch: Yes, yes, because that’s when calm and peaceful becomes a state of passivity, then nothing happens. But this experience of transcendence, this unleashes an unlimited amount of not only creativity but energy and focus and edge, and actually I would say that if a person is suffering then they’re creating in spite of that. Not because of that.
    If you have a very bad headache, you have to create in spite of the headache. If you’re so depressed you can’t get out of bed, you have to create in spite of that.

    • @harrylane4
      @harrylane4 Před 2 lety +5

      If David lynch can make what he makes without suffering, then you don’t NEED to suffer to make art.

  • @gracezaky1192
    @gracezaky1192 Před 2 lety +140

    can i just say how grateful i am that SOMEONE on this God-forsaken hellscape of a platform accepts their secondary status to the concept of art? i swear the title of "creator" gets to people's heads and makes them start believing that they are the gods of their created universe rather than mere prophets sent to convey artistic messages. CJ, i appreciate your humility, because without it, both the love and the fear drive would consume us all.

    • @justingoldstein1577
      @justingoldstein1577 Před 2 lety +1

      I think even worse than a "creator" is "I'm a creative" I've come to Notice a kind of shudder in myself when I hear that

  • @ms_moment_killer
    @ms_moment_killer Před 4 měsíci +1

    Genuinely, this is so helpful for me as a creative who was diagnosed with BPD. I'm not swinging between those extremes of emotion quite as much these days, but listening to you explain your experience with these behavior patterns in conjunction with creative endeavors has clarified a lot for me. Thank you thank you thank you

  • @leo-zs9zm
    @leo-zs9zm Před 2 lety +3

    I feel as if my motivation to create is a deep rooted fear that no one will never know how great I am and how impressive I can be, how much potential to create really astonishing art I have, because of how lazy I am to just try hard enough to do so in an active way, in a effective way. In a way were everyone will be able to recognize it.

  • @panadocoughsyrup
    @panadocoughsyrup Před 2 lety +720

    this person fascinates me on a philosophical level. genuinely having one of those moments where something so logically obvious is suddenly pointed out to you in a language that doesn’t try to advertise what it means to be creative as some sort of moral or ethical or spiritual transaction between you and the universe. i STARTED creating because i was a lonely autistic child who could only fully understand the things i imagined and wanted them to be tangible. and i CONTINUE creating partially because of that, but mostly to prove to myself that i actually HAVE a skill and im not simply here to be called a walking encyclopedia by people who hear me speak about bats or public transit for ten uninterrupted minutes. everyone else around me had a skill. being able to create art feels more valuable than memorizing useless facts that give me happiness.

    • @corneliahanimann2173
      @corneliahanimann2173 Před 2 lety +12

      So ....what are the bat tangents about?

    • @panadocoughsyrup
      @panadocoughsyrup Před 2 lety

      @@corneliahanimann2173 the flying mammal, wait omg do you want a bat tangent

    • @corneliahanimann2173
      @corneliahanimann2173 Před 2 lety +10

      @@panadocoughsyrup yea, give me yout bat tangent😄 I want to know what it's about you're right, never thought that there is a flying mammal out there!

    • @panadocoughsyrup
      @panadocoughsyrup Před 2 lety +58

      @@corneliahanimann2173 AYYYYY okay SO: bats are one of the most specially diverse mammals in the world!!! and theyre super ubiquitous - found on every continent except for Antarctica. Theyre generally split into two main categories (with exceptions): fruit bats and insectivores. The former tends to be larger, with more dog-like faces. In fact, the largest bat in the world (the flying fox, look em up theyre cute and stinky) is a fruit bat and has a wingspan of up to five feet i believe (from what i remember). I had an insectivore bat living in my attic for a few months too - contrary to popular belief, bats are only harmful if you eat them, and even then, not all bats carry ebola. They barely ever bite humans and when they do the most damage they can do is maybe like a minor infection. Less than one percent carry rabies :) so i was pretty safe (sidenote this lil guy would sleep on my mosquito net during the day. I used to be homeschooled, so i would jsut do my schoolwork with him napping a few metres away. They also dont always sleep upside down - this one slept in a fetal position with his face facing the material). They also LOVE warm dark locations, and few species migrate during the colder climate and may hibernate or go into torpor (kinda like hibernation lite) instead. Also, unlike birds who are catagrammatically (not sure if this is a word) quite far away from humans and other pentadactyl creatures, a bats wing is sort of like a giant webbed hand. Many bats have a lil claw at the top of their wings which acts as a kind of finger. Also i read somewhere that insectivores will eat up to 300 insects every minute while hunting, not sure if that number is correct, but i dont find it unbelievable lmao. Their metabolism is speedy as fuck. OH AND THE SMALLEST BAT is called the bumblebee (or kittys hog nosed) bat and is very puny. Like most insectivores it looks a bit like a goblin and i find that very enjoyable. Speaking of goblins vampire bats are also a thing but theyte actuslly not at all deadly creatures. They have the sharpest teeth in the mammal kingdom and cause zero pain when they bite (and they only ever bite horses, cattle, goats, things like that so dont worry). Most bats also roost for life, instead of mating for life. This means they will often live in the exact same place… forever. Which is why its so difficult to get a bat out once theyre in your house. Because in their head theyre like “huh? but this is MY house :(“. Lots of bat species live together in MASSIVE colonies too. In fact, i think the biggest colony ever found was in south america. It was well over a million little guys.
      Also theyre fantastic for the eco system and one of the main nocturnal polinators! Insectivores are great for farms and their shit is used for fertilizer lmao
      Point is bats get a bad rep but theyre just smelly little flying goblin dogs who like to cuddle with eachother and eat.

    • @corneliahanimann2173
      @corneliahanimann2173 Před 2 lety +23

      @@panadocoughsyrup Okay I just read it all, I looked up the flying fox and the bumblebee and they're super fucking cute! I never knew bats have a bad reputation but I also never lived in a location where bats are a problem or get bigger than your hand, so that could be a factor... It's super cute that you had a little bad in your house with you, I'd love to have had that, it truly explains how you got the fascination for bats in the first place! I myself don't have autism, or believe I don't have it but I have a massive fascination with parrots, and I used to have 2 quaker parrots, so I always end up on tangents about how amazing parrots are, I relate to this fascination for animals. Thank you for sharing this with me, I appreciate it and I think I learned a thing or two

  • @domvalentine9137
    @domvalentine9137 Před 2 lety +258

    i love how these videos start with something funny easy to get into and then quickly dive into like picking apart your understanding of yourself and the world and how those things interact w each other and gives u something really meaningful and interesting to think about BUT then it also still circles around to being somewhat about the entry point :) its such a masterful and clever way to talk about something fun and easily accessible AND bring up things that might be like hugely world-shattering to think about, all while managing to be extremely entertaining bc i was out here analyzing my own reasons for why i create but i did also laugh really hard every time the "kill yourself" wolf was on screen

  • @annas.8504
    @annas.8504 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Thank you for having some of the genuinely best video essays on art that I’ve had the pleasure to watch-this and the Objectively Bad Art video just light up my brain, I appreciate it a ton 💜💜

  • @user-lh5wc8or5j
    @user-lh5wc8or5j Před rokem +1

    thank you for always showing the most amazing and creative sides of the topic/examples discussed and making it your own, no one could explain and create art the way you do!! adored this

  • @TJGibson0
    @TJGibson0 Před 2 lety +123

    When I got COVID recently I was sleeping 16 hours a day and barely able to move from muscle aches and migraines; CJ is out here deliberating the meaning of life with themself through the axis of Kronk

  • @ForeignManinaForeignLand
    @ForeignManinaForeignLand Před 2 lety +39

    Get well soon, CJ 🙏🏾

    • @heatherlee2967
      @heatherlee2967 Před 2 lety +1

      Kings supporting kings. Great to see you here!

  • @EvaFournier
    @EvaFournier Před 27 dny

    The third Aladdin film was my favorite as a kid and there was a part of my life where I started to wonder if it was a fever dream because nobody else knew about it. I found a vhs at a thrift store and the rewatch didn’t fully remove the feeling because the parts I loved actually got very little screen time.

  • @connorkennedy1794
    @connorkennedy1794 Před 2 lety +2

    Hey. Thanks for this. Not only was it entertaining, but also pretty insightful and thoughtful. You take a rather honest and humbling path toward building an argument and then you criticize your own argument so as to not miss the point or context: ART. I appreciate that. "Why do you REALLY make art" is a powerful question.
    I do wonder how art is related to creativity and I'm really suspicious of art for art's sake. Since art is *almost always* made by people for people, the vast majority of art is human. Altruistic, or hedonistic, or fear motivated, or love motivated...I am motivated by all kinds of things. I think fear can be a super great and positive motivator. I make way more art in a supportive classroom environment where I'm graded and expected to meet deadlines than I have since graduating. It's like the conflict between freedom and limitations are intensely tied to creativity and productive artistic output. I'm personally motivated by community too. The competition of making great things in a group but also of being surrounded by creative minds making individualistic unique works of art is fun and exciting.
    One of the things I see a lot, is people who won't try because they think they are bad at art. They are maybe right, since taste develops before skill and no one is born with magical master artist skills. What I think most people MEAN to say is that only good art and good artists should create, and that they were disillusioned by the lack of immediate gratification in art classes in the past so they don't think they are good enough.
    There's also this weird idea where we make everything into a commodity or judge everything by how much money it makes. Type in an artist's name and you often get suggested their net worth or the value of their paintings. Don't even get me started on NFTs. People won't go into art because of the staving artist trope and a misalignment of expectations about how many professional artists build successful careers. "Artists make no money" is a fear (only sometimes well founded) about long term financial security, but it's often rooted in misunderstanding.
    I think if we really wanted to make the best art, we would build more art communities that actually care about the craft, and work in teams toward certain projects. Build a review culture around open platforms of discussion and remove barriers toward entry. And get group organizers and spokespeople who can get outsiders excited to join in. Self publishing has provided a ladder toward building up a body of work that basically anyone can follow in time and there are thriving artistic communities like this if you know where to look for them. I just want more.

  • @c.camillejones5331
    @c.camillejones5331 Před 2 lety +113

    feels like a middle school sleepover, (probably because I’m also laying in bed lol), and it’s your turn at the bff special-interest-monologue mic

  • @syntheticat-3
    @syntheticat-3 Před 2 lety +180

    I used to think a person could either be very eloquent or talk really fast, and that nobody could ever combine bitchin vocabulary with a rapid speaking pace. And then I found your channel.

    • @gracezaky1192
      @gracezaky1192 Před 2 lety

      the first of many revelations to come from this channel

    • @the_julia_fair
      @the_julia_fair Před 2 lety

      based on that i think you’d also really like ro ramdin

  • @jacksteele9982
    @jacksteele9982 Před 2 lety +4

    This video is incredible. The way you talk about art and the rearranging of your hierarchy of desires is incredibly inspirational to me. I never thought that I’d get called out so hard by a video about Kronk, but here I am. The seamless sliding between the nuanced discussion of binary thinking and the subpar quality of a direct to video sequel is mesmerizing. Thank you for making things.

  • @suddensirens8281
    @suddensirens8281 Před měsícem

    I know this video is a year old; I've probably already "watched" it.
    You have a beautiful mind, and I love your content. Thank you for continuing to share at your own pace. I needed to hear this.

  • @clippychan530
    @clippychan530 Před 2 lety +77

    You give me "person I met at a party once but I was so drunk that I forgot to exchange info with them so I will never speak to you again but think of you forever" vibes

  • @frogman1
    @frogman1 Před 2 lety +125

    lately i've been doing this thing where i actively try to make art that makes me uncomfortable. especially art that i love, but am embarrassed to make myself. i'm working on things that are uncomfortably intimate, or overwhelmingly complex, or time wasters, or obtuse, or tropey and cliche as hell. weirdly enough i think it's even making me a more open person. i feel like i laugh more. i get mad more. yeah art's some good shit

    • @SwitchyBitchyWitch
      @SwitchyBitchyWitch Před 2 lety +4

      That sounds really good ✨ Do you share it somewhere?

    • @thegirlyouddiefors9500
      @thegirlyouddiefors9500 Před 2 lety +3

      That sounds amazing, honestly admirable, do you share or upload this somewhere? I'd love to see it

    • @yes-ei2yo
      @yes-ei2yo Před 2 lety +2

      what type of art do u make? like is it paintings or songs or whtever constitut arfts

    • @ShoulderMonster
      @ShoulderMonster Před 2 lety +6

      Replying to this comment as a reminder to try the same... I draw so timidly, I've known that for years. There's this mountain of fears I've been skipping around for years, I know if I'm to ever accomplish my goals I'll need to climb it...

  • @senselocke
    @senselocke Před 4 měsíci

    This is going in my "favorites" playlist. It will be on my regular "think about how you think about shit" rotation. Really, really insightful and interesting. Thank you!

  • @yuuri9064
    @yuuri9064 Před rokem +2

    I'm not sure what my secret contract is. I imagine it's somewhere along the lines of justifying my existence through providing value to others/society, wanting to be the best, and feeling like it's the only way to get others to understand me.
    "We're on the side of art." It's as you said: we have roles that we work best in, areas in which we excel which are not necessarily a leading or eye-catching position. And that's not a problem! We need all kinds of people to have a fully realized... Anything, really. It doesn't mean someone has greater value as a person, it means someone has a greater value in a specific area.
    Though it can be hard, we ought not let our egos get in the way of quality. We also ought not let fear be overtake love as a driving force. I make art because I love art and I love making it and interacting with it.
    Thank you, CJ!

  • @TJGibson0
    @TJGibson0 Před 2 lety +208

    CJ is legitimately one of the best philosophers of our time

    • @iopohable
      @iopohable Před 2 lety +1

      only if you can't read.

    • @Robstafarian
      @Robstafarian Před 2 lety

      @@iopohable Literacy is subservient to time and access, among other things.

  • @asorrow
    @asorrow Před 2 lety +141

    Dear, get some rest. But thank you, I'm gonna snuggle down and absorb these musings, you're a gem. Smooth recovery to ya 🦭

  • @jaclynfeccia6172
    @jaclynfeccia6172 Před 2 lety

    genuinely thank you for this video this was a perspective I really needed and made me think a lot.

  • @reallylizjohnson
    @reallylizjohnson Před 2 lety +1

    wow wow so glad I found your channel - thank you for your content, keep making it cause I’m gonna be watching it ✨

  • @stephenwilliams163
    @stephenwilliams163 Před 2 lety +134

    CJ, as you've brutally reminded me many times, I don't know you. I only know the persona you've projected through this medium. Your only worth to me is through your art. Sorry bout that, but it's the only part of you I will ever know. Good thing for both of us that you're really fucking good at it.

  • @ActualOphelia
    @ActualOphelia Před 2 lety +479

    "secret contract" is a really good way of describing this. I've been thinking about it a lot recently though it was hard putting it into words. I've proclaimed I want to pursue a PhD for the past 5 years, but now that I'm finishing up my masters I have started to realise that my motivations for wanting to do a PhD were not because I wanted to do a PhD _per se_, but because I felt like my studies (and, therefore, my academic accomplishments, and subsequently my existence) only had worth if I did anything with them and there aren't many options to do smth with medieval English lit. I'm slowly realising that I don't necessarily have to do smth with what I studied, and can just use the general skills I learned (properly and clearly arguing my point, researching, presenting, etc etc) in a stable career which allows me to pursue happiness rather than academic accomplishments

    • @JulsieTheRandom
      @JulsieTheRandom Před 2 lety +27

      i appreciate you sharing this because i'm going through the same thing rn with a different specialty, and i just wanna say: hell yeah!! happy for you!

    • @EvitaGlez
      @EvitaGlez Před 2 lety +14

      Saaaaaaaaaame!!! I’ve spent 10+ years post undergrad preparing for med school and now im just like….. do I really wanna do this or is it just for my ego? Lately I’ve found my true passions and happiness in reading novels, sewing, spending time with my animals… and im grappling with should I really “throw” all those years away for things that are seemingly so basic like a thread and needle… Gahhhh still have a lot of thinking to do 😖

    • @ActualOphelia
      @ActualOphelia Před 2 lety +14

      @@EvitaGlez it's certainly not throwing time away! Just bc I'm not going to do anything w/ medieval & early modern English lit doesn't mean they the skills I learned (proper argumentation, source identification, critical thinking, close reading, conveying difficult information in easy and clear language, academic language usage, proper English in professional settings [not in youtube comments bc I'm too lazy 😂], general insight on the human condition etc) are also useless! You lean so much more when studying medicine than just healing. You lean how to have difficult conversations with people, how to "read" people and calm them in stressful situations, you know how to work hard and long and stay motivated and precise throughout, not to lose sight of the details even during hectic times, how to be empathetic....

    • @EvitaGlez
      @EvitaGlez Před 2 lety +8

      @@ActualOphelia awww thank you for that perspective and for your writing (typos and all hehe)!!! I def didn't see it that way but that makes sense! I think the indoctrination of "time is money" and "mustn't waste time!" def has me punishing myself at such a subconscious level worrying about time passing by and it not being productive. Something I'm still working on challenging on a daily basis 😓

    • @skshore338
      @skshore338 Před 2 lety

      also was it fun? do you enjoy medieval English literature for its own sake?

  • @MaeveDX
    @MaeveDX Před rokem +3

    Every one of your videos has unexpected nuggets of artistic advice, that feel so like, transcendently helpful as someone just in the beginning their journey as an artist. I think this one takes the cake though, I did not expect that out of a video that I thought would be about Kronk.

  • @elizabethlockhart2103
    @elizabethlockhart2103 Před rokem +3

    My art is making tabletop stuff, specifically DMing. I write a lot of stuff, I put a lot of work into making the maps and puzzles, I think a lot about the characters I play and do voices and character tics when I act like them. I do this because I like thinking about it, I like creating worlds and scenarios for my friends and seeing their reactions and knowing that they had a good time in the end.
    The real reason is because I generally know the game better than the other people at the table, which assures me that I'm smart. Even if I don't "win" - and as a DM, you don't want to win! You want your friends to win - knowing all the rules better than anyone else assures me that I'm smarter than everyone else. Even if I know I'm not, I can feel like it for a little while.

  • @nealwoods3482
    @nealwoods3482 Před 2 lety +420

    I've been trying to explain to people my whole life that I am definitively a follower and work better as one. I'm very comfortable with my role as an enhancer but I've never had someone tell me that I'm right or that it's OK. So thanks haha

    • @connorbeith3232
      @connorbeith3232 Před 2 lety +54

      I've known all my life that i'm better at following directions than telling others what to do, but school seems to have this idea that everyone has to be a leader and even emphasize this by urging you to join leadership clubs and i've never jived with that.

    • @nealwoods3482
      @nealwoods3482 Před 2 lety +36

      @@connorbeith3232 that's a real problem we are creating in my opinion. We've got all these leaders and nobody to follow them haha

    • @emmakane6848
      @emmakane6848 Před 2 lety +10

      @@connorbeith3232 See, I’m very weird about this. As a person I am always going to be better having written down directions that I can look back to, as apposed to verbal instructions. It just so happens that most project rubrics satisfy my written instruction requirements so (because I am generally an outgoing, outspoken, out-of-the-box thinker) I typically end up becoming a leader in school situations where I wouldn’t in an actual job.
      If you were wondering why the system is set up in a way that leads to this situation, I find it useful to think of schools as basically emblematic of capitalism. They are made to funnel people into the workforce, but with so many ‘entry level’ positions requiring more and more experience/technical proficiency, the education system is becoming increasingly less effective. Necessitating a focus on the subject matter, and individuals, which are likely to result in expected outcomes for later occupations. This is why they keep trying to shove everyone into leadership positions - that is the most likely avenue for people to actually use any of the lessons they try to teach.

    • @ShoulderMonster
      @ShoulderMonster Před 2 lety

      @@connorbeith3232 Pretty ironic school forces "leadership" nowadays when the very school system itself is founded on creating submissive factory workers...

    • @lucyandecember2843
      @lucyandecember2843 Před 2 lety

      @@nealwoods3482 thats a really good point, can't be leaders without followers lol

  • @aprettylittlemonster
    @aprettylittlemonster Před 2 lety +107

    Okay, my original plan for tonight wasn’t getting drunk, watching this, crying my eyes out for being seen so unnecessarily hard by CJ, while eating just a bowl of mini marshmallows and also feeling spiritually cleansed somehow… but here we are.

  • @IcarusPhil
    @IcarusPhil Před rokem +1

    your channel is a perfect representation of my adhd and i love it so much

  • @dantegonzalez8715
    @dantegonzalez8715 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video!! Loved the circle back to Kronk's pursuit of quality (his spinach puffs!) which definitely was a strong call to action moment :)
    I thought it was pretty fitting/funny as I watched this that I have The Myth of Sisyphus sitting on my nightstand right now and I just finished Hero With A Thousand Faces for playwriting research last semester (target audience demographic of distressed artist with one philosophy class under their belt, reached)

  • @k.bubenicek8976
    @k.bubenicek8976 Před 2 lety +395

    I've always thought of myself as a background character and was content with it. Never had aspirations to be the center of attention or in a position of power, only to do good work, help people, and be part of a whole. In a world where everyone seems to want to be the main character, it always felt like I was missing a fundamental part of the human condition. It's good to know that people like Kronk exist and enjoy what they do in the background instead of having higher aspirations. I think I relate to him a lot.

    • @meowimg
      @meowimg Před 2 lety +7

      same! i'm a lot of a side character and it's honestly great

    • @ashleyabdalla57
      @ashleyabdalla57 Před 2 lety +8

      haha yeah, only bad part about it is it seems to control my social anxiety D: insecurity over others seeing me as bland, but i am happy :3

    • @k.bubenicek8976
      @k.bubenicek8976 Před 2 lety +8

      @@ashleyabdalla57 I'm in the same boat, often feel inferior and boring in comparison to my more ambitious peers

    • @abbycross90210
      @abbycross90210 Před 2 lety +7

      Same. I've always compared it to my being far more valuable as part of a choir than as a soloist. I would detract from art as a soloist, but I think I add "blending" power to a choir: I don't stand out, I don't overstep, I sound like everyone else, just on a different note. You get enough of us and we make a pretty great sound overall. Nothing wrong with not being front-and-center.

    • @SirThinks2Much
      @SirThinks2Much Před 2 lety +8

      I remember being asked "if you were part of a movie, what kind of character would you be?" and I remember answering that I'd be the Yoda - the weird old character who lives in a swamp and gives other people training and advice and then dies peacefully in the next movie. so far it's been shaping up alright

  • @koruscott6514
    @koruscott6514 Před 2 lety +525

    I often talk in a frantic, fragmented way at anyone who will listen about any topic I am passionate about....
    This channel is how I wish I sounded on my spiraling rants at my unfortunate friends and family. The reality is far from it but it is what it is.
    The mention of the book on Dialectics made me REALLY curious what kind of books CJ reads...and I would love a list of book reccs because I feel like, with a brain like this, there'd be some gems on there.

    • @stalkingpedrochannel
      @stalkingpedrochannel Před 2 lety +5

      Same

    • @eliastew9636
      @eliastew9636 Před rokem +15

      I feel the exact same way. I’d wager that CJ is similar outside of a video context we’re just seeing it refined.

    • @manzijoel5224
      @manzijoel5224 Před rokem +5

      Lol idk if you’ll see my comment this late but I believe CJ’s patreon contains a book club sorta thing they did with their patrons in June I think.
      I think if you’re able to subscribe to it, you’d find at least a couple recs and him even dissecting one of the books. 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @wyrmworks6991
    @wyrmworks6991 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Yep, I’m watching every one of your videos now.
    I’ve always thought I would prefer to be the pianist in the background of a play rather than the main actors, not out of a fear of being seen or an uncertainty of my quality as a person, but because it felt like the correct place to be in order to best contribute to the overall piece of art. (In a metaphorical way, I’ve never been in theater and I don’t play the piano)
    We are on the side of art! We are on the side of art! Thank you for clarifying so many thoughts and feelings I’ve had in the past and giving me more to think about and process

  • @lizabee484
    @lizabee484 Před 2 lety +2

    Yo, your videos are the kind that I have to watch at least 4 times to understand. I mean this as an absolute compliment, let me explain. The first time I watch is just preliminary, to be absolutely bombarded and confused by all the cool sh*t you’re throwing at me and come away with more questions than answers. The second viewing is to try and figure out the main thesis statement of the video. The third is to finally begin to comprehend the main arguments and answer some of the infinite questions I had with the first watch (the list of which has grown exponentially upon each subsequent viewing). And the fourth is to sit back, at a point where I can understand the main narrative of the video as a whole, and really appreciate the specific quotes and wordplay that make me pause the video and instantly become an incredibly annoying audience member at a slam poetry reading, enthusiastically snapping away.
    CJ. Your videos literally have me analyzing them with the enthusiasm and attention to detail that my college professors could only dream of getting my ADHD a$$ to attempt. And I was doing this naturally, willingly, without having to be dragged along, kicking and screaming, by the pressures of academics or in service of a degree or whatever. There’s only a few yt essayists on here that I do that with, and this video was the first time I realized I was genuinely analyzing the text in an academic way without even realizing it. Which made me laugh pretty hard.
    So. Thanks? I had an interesting journey of self discovery with this video that was almost entirely unrelated to its subject matter. 👍🏻👍🏻 Have an excellent day and I hope you feel better soon with minimal side effects, diminished lung capacity is a real b!tch.

  • @TheQuidProQuo
    @TheQuidProQuo Před 2 lety +270

    this is one of the first times I've really felt like I was witnessing genius while simutaneously witnessing extremely raw humanity - he's managed to create and entire channel around a dialectic concept: what is a super polished video essayist was simutaneiously a raw honest panicked self examination monologue. they aren't the first one to do that but the full a true commitment to quality and discovering originality in the moment is expanding what the channel can do and create. we're literally watching that process through all of his art. beautiful.

    • @krillyourself420
      @krillyourself420 Před 4 měsíci +2

      IKR

    • @blueberreez
      @blueberreez Před 3 měsíci +2

      Totally agree! In case you didn't know, tho, CJ's pronouns are they/them

  • @sophiabills6213
    @sophiabills6213 Před 2 lety +23

    Incredible how in a 26 minute long video on the emperor’s new grove I have received more philosophical and psychological advice than in hundreds of “self help” videos

  • @user-jg8jc1gy2q
    @user-jg8jc1gy2q Před měsícem +1

    This is the third time I watched this video and I've genuinely grown as a person and that feels oddly beautiful. My art is good. I create more authentically and expressively than before. I make good art and aspire to one day make great art.

  • @thatponighoul
    @thatponighoul Před 2 lety +1

    All of your videos feel like a fever dream and I wouldn't want them any other way

  • @jauxro
    @jauxro Před 2 lety +74

    If you've any interest in art that acknowledges it is dying within the text, The Owl House is doing this as its second season comes to a close. It's way more satisfying than when shows get cancelled but refuse to acknowledge the botched ending. Not exactly related to the video, but art-related and existential so I thought I'd make this comment exist.

    • @christopherfloody5555
      @christopherfloody5555 Před 2 lety +1

      Oh damn, thats a really interesting point. Also, love the reactions and breakdowns you do of the owl house. :)

    • @jauxro
      @jauxro Před 2 lety +1

      @@christopherfloody5555 !!! I've seen you around lol it's cool we watch the same creators

    • @guilhermeshiba3135
      @guilhermeshiba3135 Před 2 lety +2

      i do hate that it got cut short but i can't not love how the way that major events happen so close to one another as the characters innocently mention that their inevitable demise is coming just a bit sooner than we think. it feels like the same situation that steven universe went through (they also got cut short for having a queer relationship) but instead of rushed it feels anxious

    • @Tri0xide
      @Tri0xide Před 2 lety

      ditto

  • @Croutonette
    @Croutonette Před 2 lety +62

    6:06-6:52
    i did not consent to being called out like this
    this was rly encouraging. ive def been struggling with what i think my intention to create is, if that matters, and the relation that has to the art itself. ultimately ive decided that whether ill make something high effort with the intention to challenge people, or some stupid garbage thing just for people to laugh at, as long as im doing it because i enjoy the process, thats all that matters.
    also funny how all those creators at the end all said the same thing. i dont know the others but i know drew and that honesty makes me respect him more.

  • @SloanMacLeod
    @SloanMacLeod Před 2 lety +2

    THANK YOU for the work you do. i get so excited every time you post bc i know you're about to brilliantly articulate some incredibly complex feeling i have experienced without really examining or understanding, bringing both catharsis and an antidote to loneliness-and then you're gonna top it off by teaching me some relevant deep ass philosophical shit through which to further my understanding of both the feeling and human nature????? like um wow thank u i feel lucky to Consume Your Content TM

  • @partiallystars1148
    @partiallystars1148 Před 2 lety +212

    CJ, you're the reason I'm still creating. I've had this tremendous fear of making something. But your videos and mindful approach towards the creation of art help to remind me to keep at it and in a more meaningful way.
    Thanks for creating for us and for the art of it, even while you're sick. Take care and get well soon!

    • @Ondohir
      @Ondohir Před 2 lety

      Ok, why do you really create art?

    • @illusionfaderr5394
      @illusionfaderr5394 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Ondohir of course that the reasons why they create art must be more complicated than what they mention, but damn man, the way you phrased your comment makes it seem like purely cold criticism- like being inspired by CJ to try & find meaning through art isn’t a valid enough reason to create it. CJ is fking awesome, & I bet this dude is too, so why not let them appreciate CJ without implying that they’re being nongenuine?

    • @sage7529
      @sage7529 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Ondohir jus let them compliment CJ in peace jfc

    • @MixedRhythm
      @MixedRhythm Před 2 lety +1

      @@illusionfaderr5394 He's just doing the bit from the end of the video jfc calm down

    • @illusionfaderr5394
      @illusionfaderr5394 Před 2 lety +4

      @@MixedRhythm yeah i know it’s the whole topic of the video but- OH SHIT DID HE QUOTE CJ WORD PER WORD

  • @jangelorum
    @jangelorum Před 2 lety +26

    "posted 57 seconds ago" Clicks immediately, lets go himbos

    • @jangelorum
      @jangelorum Před 2 lety +1

      Finished the video, I am shaken and I am completely impressed by the power of the final statements. goddamn, thanks for doing what you do fam.

  • @mike_sauce
    @mike_sauce Před 2 měsíci +1

    Iconic catchphrase: "couuufff".

  • @Twisterian27
    @Twisterian27 Před 4 měsíci

    You are absolutely brilliant! Thank you!!

  • @savvysmiles1121
    @savvysmiles1121 Před 2 lety +40

    You're like a kindred spirit that seems to be capable of reading a teleprompter from the inside of my mind without even knowing me or maybe we just have all the same DSM criteria checked. Either way, I'm here for it.

  • @art_by_black
    @art_by_black Před 2 lety +95

    Oh my gosh, why is this absolutely flawless? My brain feels weird. Mission accomplished, CJ. Dang. I need to sit down, oh crap, I am sitting down. I need to stand up so I can sit down.

  • @chazellison2855
    @chazellison2855 Před měsícem

    Something about a CJ video really gives me comfort when I’m overwhelmed with the searing sensation of existence

  • @mikaela5607
    @mikaela5607 Před rokem

    I found your channel this morning and I'm obsessed

  • @higanbana6296
    @higanbana6296 Před 2 lety +40

    I did not expect to be called out for my artistic motivations, ESPECIALLY in a Kronk focused video, but I think I really needed that.