‘Vote these buggers out of power’ - Prof Jonathan Jansen
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- čas přidán 21. 07. 2024
- South Africa is quite literally “falling apart” at the helm of the governing ANC, filled to the brim with ministers unfit for office, arrogantly believing the rural vote will save them in perpetuity. In a broad-ranging, no-holds-barred interview about the state of the nation, internationally-distinguished academic and author Prof Jonathan Jansen tells BizNews’ Michael Appel that South Africa “needs to vote these buggers [ANC] out of power” come national elections in 2024. From the crime, unemployment and electricity supply crisis to fumbling education policies, Jansen says he’s advising talented young South Africans to leave the country in the short term. He wants our best and brightest to then return once we’re out of the “lacuna, this vacuum, this interregnum, if you wish”, to help rebuild the country. Jansen delivers incisive analysis that cowers to nothing and no one.
"we need to vote these buggers out of power"statement of the century.Thank you professor Jonathan Jansen... from the Vaal area South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦
The anc think they are entitled to stay in the present government and they take the attitude they belong there, well let's kick these buggers out and into jail, because that's where they belong, especially Ramaposa, mantashe, Gordon, Mbalua,
Can you imagine Prof Jansen minister of education. Awesome stuff.
They got what they voted for . Nice
There's not one of them that can run a country
11 eaeaw, @@petermeyer5626
If we cannot vote them out we must throw them out!
Their corpses should rot on the streets.
We all know what needs to happen, for the sake of our children. Remove the ANC.
I cry every time I think of where we could've been versus where we are now.
I have always had huge respect for this Prof, he should be the minister of education.
@Emanuel ....HAVE YOU SEEN HIS BALLOT Paper
@Emanuel maybe his talking about his 1994 vote😂
I suppose we all live and learn, even the professor.
Thanks for that bit of info Emanuel 👍
@Emanuel hopefully, many more like him out there.
Well said I wish to have people like you leading this country thanks for the beautiful input 👍
The government is like a truck driver who won't fill up the truck at the garage but decides to wait til its empty.
Prof Jansen is a voice of reason. How can we as South Africans get this type of person more air time anf access to our people?
Prof Jonathan Jansen, you have made an impact on my decisions and I appreciate the articles you have written over the years. They helped me to be a strong person and focus on my career path. You are an inspiration to many of us. I agree with you we need to outs those debilitating old age, corrupt people.
True
Yes look only at the minister of youth. She has not a clue about the young people of today and what they are facing. Yes vote them out and let everybody get a job they are competent for.
When there is no Law and Order in a Country the State Department have to be pushed out of Parlement
It's time more black people come out and speak truth to power without fear of feeling like sell outs. Out with the Old Guard.
As a teacher you failed to mention the following. Class sizes. How the hell do you teach a class of 60 in a class meant for 30? The education department is top heavy. High salaried individuals there that is not an asset to township schools. Caps curriculum is also too busy.
Teacher's are so bogged down by unnecessary paperwork We need to focus on quality teaching not "window dressing " so that everything looks good on paper but in reality it is failing
But he voted anc recently. He is what is wrong with South Africa
What do you call 'recently'?
As always Prof when you speak one listens.If only we could have someone like you in power.
Prof Johansen you are so correct just a pity our polititions are so bloody arrogant and stupid.
This is the kind of person our poor country needs, a brilliant mind and tells it like it is. Absolute kudos to the prof, I wish we could clone him
And where has he been for 26 years?
@@seanprinsen7265 he's definitely been around. Maybe some just haven't noticed him til this interview
@@seanprinsen7265 Some people just don't read enough.
@@seanprinsen7265.....TRYING TO EARN AN HONEST LIVING MAYBE
What?..he is anti capitalist...
What did we do wrong?.? Keeping voting for the damn ANC, that's what went wrong. When will the people WAKE UP and vote differently. VOTE, DONT STAY AWAY. that way your vote can make a difference.
I believe its possible to vote these buggers OUT!!!
2 out of 3 mayor's you quote, are DA members, yet you say, the DA does not understand...
What a honest and respectful person who is inspirational and has the courage to speak out. As a JP teacher I have to agree with his Education thoughts.
What a Man. Why, why and believe me there are other like him, cannot just come together and lift SA out of the mud. Good for you Professor Jansen, you are a man and leader in one piece.
Hats off to the prof.
No no no!!!.He made a DISASTER of Kovsies!!!!!!!!! I was there and I saw what was happening: it became an anc propaganda factory!!!!!!!!!!!
Absolutely brilliant. Anyone in the ANC listening out there?
Too busy working out their next scheme to break rape pillage and steal...
They've got $ stuffed in their ears
Doubt it, unfortunately. Too arrogant to accept that they do not have the ability to run a modern country, let alone any country. The mess that the ANC has made has set us back decades! It's such a shame.
Oh yes for sure they are listening but their answer is simply,hee hee hee ,laughing it all off with them fat oily cheecks.
The prof doesn't think that the DA understands the history of race in this country and doesn't support them by a long shot. But he lives in the well run DA province of the Western Cape. He lists two young DA mayor's as giving hope for the future. Weird.
The DA is as bad as the ANC. Have you forgotten that up until recently they supported BEE and identity politics. Stop deluding yourself. CT was always well run even during the old NP days. The DA can’t take credit for that
He was born in that province. I think that makes him eligible to be there. Nothing weird about appreciation on merit. It's the ANC members who are unable to do that.
It’s called intellectual cognitive dissonance
A very practical academic. We can learn a lot from him. He voice is needed in every corner of South Africa; very listenable stuff.
Very well spoken Prof. You hit the nail on the head with much of what you said and I agree with you about the change in leadership that we need in this country. But unfortunately it is never going to happen.
It is up to us to make it happen
What am impressive man, highly intelligent, well spoken, voice of reason. Should be president of south Africa.
"I mean there's a lovely English word, gatvol""... It's actually Afrikaans @ 8:14 lol...
My kids left for Australia not because they wanted to get away from SA but so their kids have a chance. They love SA as I do , the reason I won’t join them.
At the end of last year my kids went to the final assembly at their kids school and the Head was congratulating students who had received places in local plumbing, electrical, construction etc companies. And those who did music were congratulated for getting places on the tourist boats. The kids going into academia were not the only ones being made a fuss of. That’s the way it should be.
Did he changed his mind he was all for the ANC. Just say all is f-------k up
How do you know that😮 Provide evidence. Even if he was, you can change. That is democracy. White South Africans have changed or have they?
Just another HYPCRITE ????
I love this man ! I can listen to him speak for hours
'The current government is immature' and that after 28 years in power. This is a massive red flag and indicator for the future if they stay in government! They have to move on if the country wants a future.
We all agree that we need to vote these buggers out, the problem is that we don't agree on who should be on helm after the ANC.
You are an ANC blind loyalist
@@user-ww5qw8jd3b great reading skills
Privatization means one way of bringing this country down on the knees will be removed. State capture will be compromised! It's not ANC but the whole of parliament that needs a major shake up.
Dit is bietjie laat om nou eers wakker te word Prof!!!! Jy moes in die eerste plek nooit vir hierdie klomp boewe gestem het nie! Jy het hard vir hulle geskreeu en nou het jou storie skielik verander ne! Bietjie laat in die dag!
Sy hoop is oek ma geblus na al di kak wat di ANC aangevang het Sy verwagting was ook dat di land vooruitstrewend sou wees onder ANC rule ma helaas hie sit ons met n land wat opgefok is tot di core fokken uit en uit n volslae mislukking
@@lucienpetrus9432 Reg so..👍
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This is Afreeeka guys. Governments here are never decided at the ballot box. Look at Zimbabwe. Mugabe lost at the ballot box and carried on governing. I see anarchy here and a violent end to the anc. I hope I'm wrong.
I find it amazing the amount of people deluding themselves with this idea that the ANC is going to lose the 2024 elections lol. Who controls the IEC
He lost but guess who interfered to avert a civil war with "quiet diplomacy"?
That's a possibility we cannot turn a blind eye on!
Prof Jansen is so right about concentrating on the early years of education . If the youth have a good grounding the later school years will deliver the goods almost by their own maturity and applying their early learning years . I am not suggesting that teachers in high school aren’t important . They really are important! But their job is made easier if their is a solid back ground on which to build .
I like Jansen but he's still in denial... He's still clinging to South African exceptionalism.
Here's an interesting perspective that's worth chewing on:
Nelson Mandela was overwhelmingly influenced by western democratic ideals. His vision of a prosperous, united, non racist south Africa was basically a British/American vision fueled by Western philosophy and law and Christian values. That Western influence has faded and now we are left with the awful cocktail of African politics mixed with socialism. The result is a performative society which acts out the part of a functioning democracy but which at its core is authoritarian, racist, tribal, and pathologically tolerant of incompetence and corruption.
Until we become humble and begin to emulate the successful countries of the world, we will never be like them. That's what South African exceptionalism is: the assumption that we will magically emerge into our rainbow nation utopia through communist/socialist policies and a primitive tribe-like structure of political leadership where the people at the top can do whatever they want without consequence and the people at the bottom not only make due with nothing, but applaud their leaders, believing in the myths the leaders propagate through their lies and sophistry.
Japan became a superpower by emulating the principles and policies of America and democratic nations. South Africa on the other hand prefers to rub shoulders with Russia and introduce nonsense policies that take away freedom rather than create it. We are arrogant, ideological and resting far too heavily on our laurels. The days of reckoning are on the horizon. They will not be easy.
We really miss his holiness saint tata madiba
Especially those lekker colourful shirts he got from moodley fashions at the plaza.
Plus that lovely madiba shuffle.
He had tons of rhythm.
South African exceptionalism! Now that's a concept that died a long time ago.
11:07 - most perceptive Commentary I've read in a long time.
I miss my university days. Always interesting to hear the views of the great minds that full our universities in SA.
Great discussion
Our south Africans must make a difference in the next elections...that's da only way we can vote theses "buggers " out ...we ARE tired of no service delivery...crime increasing...lights water ...petrol increases...n our salary still stays da same ...how are we 2 mange ...come on guys let's change south Africa ...our beautiful nation....simunye we are ONE🙏🙏❤
We need special units like the Scorpions and special forces which can uproot the ùnderground Mafia.
This crisis is much deeper than only politics, it started with careless politics which allowed criminals to strive.
This criminals pay weak councillors of small political parties to keep the ANC and EFF in control by voting mayors out of their positions.
It's heart warming to hear this Prof is not blaming apartheid for the energy delema almost 30 years after they came in power. But what has his influence be in his party . ANC does not listen they are a bunch of gangsters.
What an interesting interview
Greatly appreciated
Sudden change prof you always pro anc
Well said Prof Jansen -At last Prof has mentioned why are our University Students & Learners are not Working during their Vacation's & Holidays -Why have a total Festive Season shutdown in most Public & Private Industries when students can work to be Work-Ready when they have completed their Studies -Vacations can come later.
It's time for the youths of this country to stand up n say "NO" to this culture of voting...the ancestral ANC gov has messed up this country big time!
anc thugs , time to voetsek .
Jonathan has a lot of opinions but this situatian is part of the freedom that he wanted. He has no ideas how to solve it. He just explains the current situation. What now Jonathan? Enjoy the fruits of your ideas and politics
Shouldn't those in leadership positions, taking very large salaries as leaders, have the knowledge and ability to find and implement the solutions? If they can't then they are underqualified for the job.
I’m reminded that this Prof was one of those people that put those buggers in power in the first place. His dwelling in hindsight; many of us warned years ago the direction the ANC was going to take this country. So sorry Prof I blame you as well.
100%, this guys is complicit, let's be honest
Trite talking shite, he was the one pushing the jab mandates on the uni students too.
Yes, he was and that was 100% correct. We had to strip the oppressors of power and be sure that this time coming we will do it again. Power to the people.
You expected him to keep the apartheid regime in power?
@@edwindakile4784 yes, if he voted for the ANC IN 1994 and 1999, he was not the only one in minority groups that did. That was a different ANC or what seemed to be. This assumption that what has happened was inevitable; the ones who are jumping up and down now saying ' we told you so' feeling vindicated in some way, make me both sad and angry. I am of the same view as the prof that we should 'vote these buggers out of power' and was one of those white voters willing to give the ANC a chance in 1994.
We have very short memories. Can't we recall that Cyryl said at the beginning of the covid pandemic that it is an opportunity for us to equalize the level of the country even if it means a lower scale? He has replaced covid as a vehicle with load shedding. He is still on point
Here the nail was hit on the head specifically in all that was said concerning education...thank you! Excellent matter for implementation!...speaking from experience
All of them are not affected by load shedding, even the ones with overalls in parliament.
Refreshing to say the least. Imagine a successful educational dream for all scholars with this Gentleman at the helm. One can only dream.
Impressive and great context!
People like Prof Jansen, Thuli Madonsela and all the other lesser known voices of reason are being ignored/sidelined . The greed of this lot is bottomless.
I have one child out of her beloved country since 2019 and another leaving for Germany next month. 😢
Ignored or silenced by who?
Very good suggestion on internship. I am in the us and my son completed 3yrs of computer science, he is doing an internship during the 10 week vac they have, best thing in consolidating what he did at Univ. It is a paid job and he has been given the opportunity to do part time work while he does his final year. It is a win win situation and these individual become immediately productive. The other point is something Mentioned to a south African educator 20 years ago. South Africa need to look at India's model of education, resulting in the Tecno revolution that took place there. Their leadership invested wisely in education more than 50 years ago.
Absolutely, the Indian automotive industry being a case in point. More or less 10 years ago anybody buying a vehicle manufactured in India was basically laughed at, but just look at them now. They're a serious player in the market!
Yes and in 1994 the chosen new government thought it a good idea toclose every kind of college, tectical, nursing, EVEN police and teaching. NEVER THINKING that in 4 years there won't be new graduates in the different fields. Now almost 30 years later talk of new colleges. WHY????!!! it was all there for the taking but the government @$%&# it all up. The problem with government is they DO NOT WANT TO BE TOLD. they wil do it their own way. "Jy sallie vir my sê nie."
I absolutely agree with Prof Jansen 💯% These scoundrels from the ANC and the EFF (who have ambitions for power) must be voted out of power.
We will vote them out unlike zim, running away to other countries 😅
Yerrr, if I could, I would leave the country ASAP
Another great man keep up the good work Prof
I don't worry about race I would like to see a government that looks after the country and the people. I am a grade 5 teacher and after all these years some of my students still live in shacks. It makes me sad. The children are our future and we need to give them the correct education and emotional intelligence
What a great man! We are certainly in good stead with leaders like him in RSA! 🙌
Excellent interview!!
Still thinking voting matters anywhere in the world. 🤦🏼♂️
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Class! Well said!
The teacher are not qualified and have not grasped the study material them selves so how can they transfer the knowledge,.
Well said get them out enough is enough ,AnC must go .
Professor Jansen also needs to pay attention to overcrowding in township and rural schools. Overcrowding hampers effective teaching and learning. There's so many other issues like incompetent and less qualified school managers and sgbs among others.
STOP GRANTS FOR BREEDING CHILDREN LIKE RABBITS AND STOP MEN IN TOWNSHIPS AND RURAL AEAS HAVING MULTIPLE WIVES AND CONCUBINES AND CREATING CHILDREN BY THE DOZENS AND THERE WILL BE NO OVERCROWING. most POOR PEOPLE CREATE THE OWN CIRCLE OF POVERTY BY HAVING TOO MANY CHILDREN THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO FEED CLOTHE AND EDUCATE. people WHO DO not HAVE THESE PROBLEMS AND ARE CONSIDERED WEALTHY ARE ACTUALLY NOT REALLY BORN WEALTHY AT ALL BUT THEY COME FROM SMALLER WELL PLANNED FAMILIES AND THEY ALSO NOW plan their the size of their families. Birth Control is FREE so is vasectomies and hysterotomies. but there are no long rows waiting at birth control, no because they are all at the grant offices.
Well said prof👏👏👏👏
You tell us how to do that with 50 million illiterate people who vote ANC no matter what?
Less than 11 Million people voted for the ANC in the last Election. 15:21
Excellent comments from the Prof. definitely need a change in current regime to ensure meaningfull transformation
Wonderful everything I fully agree with
Started listening to this gentleman about 10 years ago. Am amazing person. I said it then, and I will say it again, he needs to get into politics and turn SA round.
Look at the rest of Africa. Who do you think the masses are going to vote for?
Much respect for this man!
Please take over as president.
'Best interest of the people' ... taking a wider long-term view for ALL the people ... which means stepping out a few ripples and looking from the outside in. The basics need to be in place at the very minimum - water, electricity , safety, food.
THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN COUNTRIES WHO DISS THE WORD OF GOD
God doesn't vote.
THANKS FOR YOUR HONEST WORDS.
GOD BLESS YOU AND SYAY SAFE
Prof on telling young people to leave I have this to say, my wife both I educated our sons in private schools they are both on the path to b CA's and I tell them to leave. I don't play golf and I don't go fishing I lived on the side of sprortfields from their age 4 but I am still telling them to go.
Brilliant mind, persona totally... Have always admired this man... Need more of his ilk...
Safe journeys to you Prof Jansen... Godspeed in all your endeavours...
Which of these small businesses pay TAX?
It is the Pick and Pay type of companies that contribute to the county. Not small businesses
Prioritize Pre Primary Grade 0 and Grade R. Make these years free and compulsory. Only accept qualified Pre Primary teachers, who understand the importance of pre reading, pre writing and pre math. Pre Auditory and visual skills. Children learn through play. It is the language of the child.
Hé is part and parcel of the decline and he and the likes should be removed.
Only thing that changed is their sense off imminent collapse of their gravy train.
They try to get onto the next gravy train even the gravy is less.
I also enjoyed the swimming pool pictures from Sri Lanka and I remembered there's one in Nkadla
Just say the word and I'll come with you.
Ons is gatvol prof
This is Absolutely 💯 RIDICULOURS!!!!!!!!!!
I want to know where are the church leaders? I have not heard one of them critisizing politicians for their involvement with countries known for their lack of transparency, lack of human rights and lack of freedom.
Thanks Prof good advice.
Prof i thank you for speaking out-as a 60 yr old now,because ANC took over not wanting to be mentored by more experienced people all over,too little of our educated people working but contractors,unemployment because of NGO,s,BEE is the new apartheid thats why we have major unemployment
The horse has bolted, so now we indulge in rhetorics and dialectics, lexicon in semantics and think it will change african governance. Politics will remain in the gutters of a very "pedestrian" level. Vote who out? The majority? Please, thoughts don't fry fish. Vetri EC Komani 🙏🇿🇦🙏
Thank you Prof, we need more people like you!!! SALUTE🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I am a street Evangelist. Retired Risk Officer from the Financial sector. My obeservation of late is everybody is waiting on work and no one creating work. I studied at GIBS, Wits Business School and Unisa. My daughter waitressed to help paid for her BHSC, PDM and MBA and now is a COO. She was born in 1991 and I am disabled. My friend says he has 45 Students enrolled at Olifantsfontein owned by Bidvest for electronics. All that is missing is Love they neighbour. As Prof says Thank God.🤗🤗🙏
Prof is so right! The wrong people are governing. Throw them out and take back what they stole! It only took them 25 years to destroy everything!@
Dear Prof I really enjoyed the conversation.Uou are a very learned someone and thank you.I really enjoyed it.
Listening to this man fills you with hope and despair at the same time.
The hopeful mind say yes at least someone with clout is rubbing their scat in their faces
The despairing minds wonder... will we survive our stage 4 cANCer or will we EFFortlessly go into oblivion as did other populist regimes.
In South Africa many people are in high positions and nurses and what more , in all avenues, people with no education are employed, there are no more strict rules here
If they do not own those facilities they can not loot any more it is the only reason i can see why they do not want to privatize anything they own at the moment. It is not about the citizens it is only about them not about the people who pay their salaries
Gatvol now an english word.
Actually it means brimming over, had enough but face it, Afrikaans just has an earthy way of saying things ne.
Outstanding man, a clear thinker.
Well done Professor I salute your wisdom. Please make the change South Africa. Please listen to the Professor suggestions
63 years old... I'm leaving. Loved and served this country to the best of my abilities.. My honest opinion.. Asikona mutata doesn't work for me anymore!!! It's me time now.. Stay, you're f"cked, leave, you make a change only for yourself and loved ones!!!
" this is not the British government..."
Deep