The Little Albert Experiment (with Josh Winslade) | Sci Guys Podcast #25
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- čas přidán 5. 10. 2019
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Mistreatment of children.
In this episode, The Sci Guys educate Josh about an infamous 1920’s study involving a rat, a Santa mask, and terrorising a small child.
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Just gonna be "that person" and point out that rabbits are not rodents, but lagomorphs.
Thank you for being "that person", it was informative 👍
I had a similar experience being conditioned to fear spiders / bugs- I grew up loving and playing with bugs, then at some point I distinctly remember thinking that I should be afraid of them because it was a normal response. Later on I somehow realized what had happened, and I thought about how I really wasn’t afraid of them. I put a lot of effort into breaking out of it and loving them again.
Just to the "Was there a guy in Harry Potter called John"? There was John Dawlish the Auror.
This is coming in handy as my psych exam is tomorrow and we actually need to know about Watson and his experiment
Having Josh with you added to the discussion and to the fun. Miss Educating Josh a lot.
John Watson actually went onto become a marketer after he was fired from psychology
"I was wondering - would Little Albert be alive today? Probably not..." The BBC tracked him down. They discovered who his mom was, and the names of her other children. Little Albert's brother led the BBC producers to his grave. He'd died only a few years after being tortured - at around age 6. (The doctors at Johns Hopkins hadn't recorded all of their experiments. You're only going to read of that which was approved for release.)
Btw: Nothing about this subject was remotely humorous.
Im pretty sure this was mostly disproven and there's now another person who they think it is who dies in about 2007, could still be the 6 year old though
Do you happen to have a reference? I'd love to see.
A bit late but another thing… I believe his mother was an employee at the hospital as mentioned and she was paid $1 for his participation (a larger sum in those days). I don’t think she was made aware of the risks that came along with the experiments.
Does this count as studying for my psych test tomorrow?
Absolutely
yes duh
In Spanish McDonald's slogan is "Me Encanta" it means 'I love it', if they were to use the same progressive/continuous tense it would be "me esta encantando" obviously doesn't have the same ring to it so they changed it to present tense it's not really that different and in Spanish it has the same amount of syllables with the same message they intended.
This video is super old and I don't know if someone already said this but I needed to point it out
My question is: how do they also prove that his fear didn’t come from just seeing these scientists that were terrorizing him?? Like this kid is presumably going from this hospital where he hopefully isn’t being abused to these scary people giving him a fear.. So it could have ended up being scientists = rat + loud noise = fear
i guess because they were also there when he played with the blocks and he wasnt scared then
he couldve been repressing his fear of the scientist by concentrating on the happy blocks though
but ultimately i think they just didnt tealise that they could be a factor or even cared really
Rats are not inherently scary, kids nowadasys may be scared of rats because it's culturally taught they can be dangerous (due to the viruses they can carry or them being associated with dirty places, etc)... Not everyone thinks rats are scary. :/
Josh's science teacher worked with my dad.
Small world.
Totally for psychological research:
How to slide into Josh's DMs? 🤣🤣
Also loving binge watching the podcasts right now 😁
I was also taken on walks with a leash!
Remus John Lupin
Was the rat scared of the bang too? And therefore the child...?
shut up
Rats get startled very easily. If the rat jumped at the loud noise or ran away, that would further encourage Albert to be afraid. Sudden loud noise + sudden movement of the rat.
"A brave new world" vibes 😔
It's legal to observe a child and record the observation as long as you have parental permission
Observe, yes, but not traumatize
@@beeboy03 let alone how they were planing to continue experimenting with the child to the point of "molesting" the poor kid
What I've heard from other sources is that the parents were not fully informed when they gave permission.
Yeah, but there are several factors at play here, the parent here worked for the researchers, and was probably afraid of being punished in some way not complying, like getting fired, and at the time it was fully legal to just not tell people what was going on with their own bodies. Test subjects were unknowingly given all kinds of things, such as deadly diseases, without their knowledge, let alone their consent.
I've listened to this before but I want to watch it
So fear can be inherited and thought.
I had to turn my light on when they started taking about being scared of the dark. Made me aware lmao
This is an old podcast but yall missed out arguably the worst part which is John Watson himself.
The reason why him and Rayner couldn't do the deconditioning/a second experiment with a larger sample size is both because Albert got discharged but ALSO because Watson and Rayner got fired from Johns Hopkins because they had an affair. He was her mentor, married, and 20 years older than her.
Also John Watson had two sons with his ex wife (which were both named after the mum and dad???) and then two more with Rayner, and he believed SO DEEPLY in behaviourism, which he founded (conditioning, humans learn from environmental stimulus etc) that he basically didn't parent his kids, didn't want Rayner breastfeeding them, had no interest in anything they did, which lead to THREE out of four attempting suicide, with one sadly passing away from it.
He was also the dude that said the whole "give me a dozen healthy kids and I can train any to be a lawyer, politician, doctor" quote that's often used in eugenics arguments even though that isn't what he meant in context at all
People use what he said to defend eugenics? It sounds like he was talking about conditioning being much, much more important than genes in shaping a kid's personality and talents. That would be the opposite of the emphasis that fascists put on "good" genes.
@@fozziebean apologies I got it wrong, just googled it and the quote is used AGAINST eugenics not for
I thought I remembered someone saying that because he said HEALTHY children it caused eugencists to use it out of context but I can’t find anything on it
But yeah, John Watson himself was very much openly against eugenics, in fact in the full quote it ends is “regardless of talents, penchants, tendencies, abilities, vocations and race of his ancestors”
I thought spiders were more inherently fearful because of how totally different they look to human babies
I have three younger siblings, and I know my mother put a leash on at least one of them because she would sometimes have me hold the other end of the leash.
I love you guys and normally enjoy watching this but that was soooooo deeply fucked up
Is nobody going to comment on the fact THEY HAD FUCKING BILLBOARDS FOR THEIR CZcams CHANNEL
rah watching this for my a level
Why