Play Pro Studio - Converting ProRes RAW to CinemaDNG
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- In this video we'll show you how to convert ProRes RAW to CinemaDNG, using Play Pro Studio. Play Pro Studio has several advantages, when it comes to ProRes RAW workflows:
1) It supports the format better than any other tool on the market
2) It reads out all the source metadata from the ProRes RAW files
3) It supports all cameras and recorders that are ProRes RAW enabled
4) It works on macOS and Windows
Use Coupon Code "PPS50OFF" on our webstore to buy a permanent license of Play Pro Studio with 50% discount: bit.ly/3JKMyh0
Enjoy!
Customer service was very helpful!
Just bought a copy after I did a quick comparison between RAW Convertor and Pro Play Studio.
First observations I made: RAW Convertor is a bit faster (maybe about 25%), but the resulting CDNG files on Play Pro Studio are smaller because I can select 12bit. RAW Convertor always converts to 16bit, even if the source doesn't have that much information.
Play Pro Studio 4:1 lossy conversion is excellent! I always had to convert to losslessy with RAW Convertor and then re-compress using SlimRaw, because the compression quality was so bad.
Play Pro Studio 4:1 file size is the same as 7:1 of SlimRaw with slightly better quality! This negates RAW Convertor's speed advantage, because I save a lot more time by not having to run the files through two apps.
Play Pro Studio also has many more features, and I hope it will work with the S5IIx in the future.
I also didn't like having to pay per camera.
Something I notice is Player Pro transcodes my Sony Pro Res files to CDNG at about 30 to 40 FPS but on my S5 raw files it is about 10 to 20 FPS. It may be the difference with the Ninja V Raw vs Raw HQ
DON'T WASTE YOUR MONEY on 'Raw Convertor'. I bought that app recently and used it once because it would only convert video. The attached audio file is always 3kb of nothing. Then, the license suddenly went "missing" on its own. In other words, I can no longer convert anything. An email to the creator went completely unanswered. Another $90 down the toilet.
me,too.I costs many money on Raw Convertor,and bought some cameras' format.But no customer service at all...@@gvs376
Pricing is too expensive. I like your products, but have no intention of ever buying them because the price isn’t right.
Play Pro Studio with the above coupon code is $149 and supports all and any ProRes RAW enabled camera - RAW Convertor is 80 bucks *per camera*. Featurewise, there is also quite a gap between the two: Play Pro Studio reads all clip metadata, allows to export reports, trim clips before transcoding, allows to load, create and export LUTs and CDLs, can playback and transcode any camera RAW footage to ProRes, H264/h265 incl. all clip metadata and can even export that metadata as an ALE for other NLEs to import. It supports SDI output through Blackmagic, Bluefish and AJA hardware and also NDI output to pipe the image output into e.g. Zoom or other apps. And lastly, it can offload and backup all footage securely from camera cards, by creating checksums and verifying those. The price is pretty good considering what it offers.
@@AssimilateSCRATCH one price for Play Pro studio for everything... Or a price for every single camera.... Play Pro Studio works for me.
Yeah, for only 1 camera to pay that, not worth it. Assimilate in Play Pro Studio to have on either PC or Mac at 149 for permanent use is extremely hard to beat. Been using it lately, and Assimilate works flawlessly on my PC.
@@AssimilateSCRATCH I'll add: and It works on a Windows workflow. If you want to talk about the price isn't right, Apple comes to mind. i can convert to any color space (that is recognized by Resolve) and Recover highlights from my Prores raw files before export to ProRes 4444 (if I need that much data). Another "price isn’t right" is any Adobe product or Final Cut X. I don't need either anymore.
@@AssimilateSCRATCHcoupon has expired
Will in the fully licensed version the option available to select vlog and vgamut in davinci? Right now in the trial we only have blackmagic film.
Is there no way we can skip the vlog raw to vlog gamut log, like bake it in whole transcoding?
The options for DNG debayering are entirely with Blackmagic - nothing we can change, or put into the DNG. The only other option you have is to transcode to conventional ProRes instead. That can then have V-Log and V-Gamut baked in. Doing it this way is perfectly fine, even though the data might not be 'raw' anymore. You will still have plenty of image information available and no restrictions wrt dynamic range.
Please check the new build (incl. video tutorial) - with Panasonic (and Z CAM) ProRes RAW, you now get the V-Log and V-Gamut options in Resolve for those CinemaDNG files.
How can we got the new version of this App. Not seeing the new features that you displaying in this video. We have version 9.4.1094. Thanks
9.6 has just been released today - you need to update. Watch your Email inbox for teh announcement ;-) .
Use the email link sent out... I just did! I had to email cause my key didn't work immediately... But gangster Jeff made it work quickly!
Just bought a license and downloaded the software via the link. While the license is for PS9.4 and PS9.5, the downloaded software is PS9.6, which is probably the reason why I can't activate it...
Could you please look into this? Thanks!
And they fixed it literally minutes after me contacting support - many thanks!
@@HerbertKratky_PhotoKratky same here!!!
I noticed there are options for 16 bit with the Prores Raw to CDNG conversion. I thought all Atomos recorders were limited to 12 bit only in their acquisition. Has someone tested this? Is there a difference?
Prores raw can do 16bit linear but that means normal 12bit. Idk if Assimilate 16 bit compression is in linear
Just bought a license and converted prores to cdng but when I bring to davinchi part of the clip is offline?
Please connect with support on this one.
Looking at the file inside davinci, there's a dramatic coloration of the cinema dng file. It looks like a CST or lut was applied, but I can't find anything to remove it. Is that just the effect of transcoding? It looks like the same thing happened to your clip, it loses that raw gray low contrast look. I'm just trying to make sure that I get the biggest raw file available to color grade in davinci with.
DaVinci automatically debayers to Rec709 / Gamma 2.4. There is nothing we can do about what it does by default, but you can go into the RAW settings and change them to Blackmagic Film and get a log image out of it.
How do you make a new project? I can't delete timelines either. Also, how do you restore settings to default?
Things like this should be easier. Also, I should be able to see what codec a video file is in the browser on Assimilate before importing it.
Just a PSA, your software needs to be polished, sorry.
In the project tree on the far left side, at the bottom, enable "Edit". This will allow you to rename timelines and groups, as well as delete them. There are no projects in that sense in Play Pro Studio - but you can use groups for that. To restore everything to default, simply open the Settings menu and hit the "Full DB Reset" button.
Noted about showing more information in the file browser.
I'm not getting the option to render to cinema raw dng with my sony A7s3. I've downloaded the trial version. Is there a limitation with the trial version that locks out the option to convert to cinema raw?
You are correct - ProRes RAW to cDNG is not available in the trial right now (although we are working to remedy this) - please connect with support@assimilateinc.com and you shall be helped :-) .
Want to download but site and everyting seems offline?
it's a shame a had to buy the more expensive competitor software with far less functionality :s (was in a bit of a hurry)
@@Kiwi-aerial-shots Sorry about that - our webhost had a major outage (an entire data center went down) and all our web services were offline for 2 days. If you're still interested, please reach out to us via the contact form on our website. Maybe we can still help :-) .
Is there a way to retain the option of changing the ISO in Davinci Resolve?
That should be achievable through the Exposure slider in Resolve. That said - the DNGs created from Play Pro Studio are plain normal DNG files - nothing special about them. Whatever Resolve offers in terms of RAW parameters is up to Resolve.
Yep... For my GH5S I get raw through the atomos recorder... I converted it then I imported the cdng into resolve... Was able to access every option in the Raw tab.. WB, exposure, ISO, tint... Everything!
Which CPU + GPU is the fastest for export times in Play Pro Studio for BRAW, Prores RAW, R3D and Prores transcoded into H.265?
As beefy as it gets :-) . CPU does decoding ProRes (RAW) and also encoding to H265 and ProRes. GPU does debayering with ProRes RAW, RED and BRAW. Both are equally important.
hey. thank you for the tool. but the coupon code doesnt work. can you send me one?
Sorry for the late reply - please reach out to us via the contact form: www.assimilateinc.com/contact/
I downloaded the trial version. When I import my Sigma FP ProRes RAW footage and click the "Render" button the "ProRes RAW to CinemaDNG" option is grayed out. Is this not available in the trial version or is it something else?
Hey Nick, it is unfortunately a limitation of the trial. We are working on changing the limitation so that it just does a limited amount of frames, but for now it's sadly not available in the trial. That said - please reach out to support@assimilateinc.com and we might be able to help you ;-) .
@@AssimilateSCRATCH Thanks, I will do that! Any indication how long your 50% promo will run? I don't have an immediate need for the software with my Sigma FP right now, but I will once my Lumix S5 IIx arrives (hopefully in May).
@@nickbricks4095 Right now we're aiming for end of the month - feel free to ping us once the time comes, we have promos and partnerships going on quite frequently :-) .
I just got it! Use the email link they sent out!
SO IF I WANT TO CONTROL ISO I HAVE TO DO THIS INSIDE ASSIMILATE? I WANT TO DO THIS WHEN I COLOR GRADE IN RESOLVE? ALSO WHAT ABOUT BRAW?
If you convert to Cinema DNG, you have white balance controls in Resolve. What about BRAW?
@@AssimilateSCRATCH hey so will it be possible convert to footage to braw (file size is much smaller and clients love work with braw)? also why i cant control iso inside resolve and only in Assimilate?
@@NathanKatash Encoding to BRAW is technically impossible, as there is no SDK for that. With CinemaDNG, Resolve only allows ISO to be controlled, if the DNG comes from a Blackmagic camera. We have thought about "camouflaging" our DNGs as such - but the metadata would then simply be incorrect. Also, adjusting the Exposure slider in the RAW settings yields pretty much the same result with even greater flexibility, than the ISO dropdown in Resolve ;-) .
@@AssimilateSCRATCH as a user this is not so much fun to do all this process it become must hassle then workflow - braw will be much more reasonable in size work with cinema dng for any production and comercial is not reasonable for 2023 i wish atomos at least give the ability in some point to do some kind of internal ninja v convert to prores 4444 this will be much more effective - im sorry but i payd the 100 usd as atomos user for the raw i payd a lot and i hate all the hassle crazy file size not able even control iso with resolve at least if i pay for all of this i hoped to enjoy and not felt like that again i say this as a user that really wanted to get a solution that i dont feel is really baked yet and i do want it to be better
@@NathanKatash Sorry, but there is not a single tool that can encoder to BRAW - also not RAW Convertor. Again, there is no SDK from Blackmagic that allows for this. It is not possible. All we can do is to convert to cDNG or conventional ProRes files.
Once I have the CDNGs in Resolve, should I then do a Color Space Transform to get it back into the gamma it was shot in? So with my FX3, back to SLOG3?
In Player Pro you can do a CST to any camera gamma from your raw files (Slog3, v-log, Red Log, Arri etc.). You can also adjust the ISO and color temp. Resolve can't but you will have to export to ProRes then do the CST on that file in Resolve. It won't be raw anymore doing it this way.
If you export to CDNG, Resolve only gives 3 options for color space on import, you need to pick one or it will default to Rec 709 srgb (it has to be something or you won't be able to see it). If you want SLOG3 you will have to pick one of the 3 and then CST to that or what ever you want it to be. It can be any gamma you want (Slog-3, Arri, Red, etc. It's still RAW) It all needs to CST down to REC 709 gamma 2.4 at the end of the node tree.
I wish Red would stop suing companies so we can get better RAW that this craptastic ProRes Raw workflow from such an anti consumer company such as apple!! This format is annoyingly difficult to work with for no reason. With a camera like Alexa i shoot then just edit. In April 2018 Apple released ProRes RAW and yet we still have to use a $300 program just to properly convert video? Even Apple's compressor is $50, yeah Mac only but no subscription, has easy batch rendering, and i don't have to spend hours in a program i'm not going to use again in the workflow after. (to be clear, im furious at Apple and Red Cameras not Assimilate, at least your helping unlike apple. Assimilate makes a great (but complex) product!)