Rapper Reacts to Mori Calliope "いじめっ子Bully" - there's history here
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5th song is only on the CD or vinyl releases. Also, there's a vinyl release, holy shit.
Yeah yuh boy's gonna want THAT!
@@RoarTheRapper I hope to see the Dakimakura in the background of your videos too lol.
And yeah that vinyl is absolutely sick. Fully functional too.
ya know vinyls are pretty cool but ill not get in to it - its not for me, normal digital audio and building up a nice music library to play on good speakers is good enough.....
Mori vinyl music on sale
TAKE MY FUCKING MONEYYY
- also only vinyl I would want would be those cowboy bebop ones and legendary sound tracks but damn - never would imagine my very first vinyl would be from a vtuber. Really strange feeling but a welcome one XD
I find this song absolutely captivating. Gives me goose bumps every time. It's also what I find the most ambiguous. There's the theory that it's directed at Kiara, people saying it's directed at her audience, a middle ground of the two, something completely different. This is the song I want to hear more about the most. Going off TLs of the JP lyrics and certain remarks in the English parts, whilst I'm not confident at all that this is solely about Kiara, I think it is highly ambiguous and I'm 100% sure she knew that it would be ambiguous writing and releasing it. Along with Red and even more so, it's definitely much more on the deeper meaning side of things with highly symbolical lyrics. I really hope this is one of the songs that get a full MV.
Empress, the fifth song of the EP, is -as of yet unreleased- CD exclusive.
People are theorizing Bully is about Kiara.
They had some real heart to heart during their Hokkaido trip and before - and it sounds like Kiara managed to really dig into her and get her to open up.
Yet after Kiara returned home Calli was pretty upset and sad about something so much so that people noticed it on stream. But it was Kiara who almost needed to force herself onto her so they'd talk. And Calli felt better after they did.
Even in today's birthday stream Kiara told Calli to take a breather and that she is there for her, both in her birthday song and when she said goodbye.
If the song is indeed about Kiara the thing Calli is so regretful about might be her pushing people away from her over and over, yet Kiara always comes back and stays by her side (figuretively for now).
Also the imagery of killing someone over and over and all the fire in the song fit their reaper and phoenix characters.
Calli said two more songs of her EP will get music videos and I hope Bully is one of them.
Ooooh I see, that really adds some weight to that. :( I thought, honestly, that something like that was the cause, but I was wasn't sure.
whether it will be digital or not eventually is one thing but the 5th song is CD exclusive, not unreleased
@@user-vi5jd5xr6q Oh ok, thanks for the info.
I think thats way to specific but its close. (since the comment reads like fanfiction)
It probably both. It talks about her past and her work. About feeding of hate towards certain groups of people and all that. After all it wasn't always that she liked idols. If I were to make the same argument then it would be that Cali talked about how much she didn't like idols in the past until she meet one of her friends that was one and realized she was wrong in her mindset and the past songs she posted about the,. I mean her old songs are of the aggressive type that attack certain demographics and such.
@@user-vi5jd5xr6q Can't wait to get my copy tbh.
This song is raw as hell, and this kind of "tragic, dub anthem" that she created is SO catchy, like god damn
Hey Roar, great breakdown as always! Just wanted to share my thoughts on who this song might be referring to, since, as you said, that part seemed open to interpretation.
My personal theory is that the other "person" in this song who has continued giving her love and support despite her bullying is not actually a person at all but her audience/followers. She's said before that when she started VTubing, she expected nothing but haters, and some of the songs in her first EP reflect that attitude (which might be the "bullying" she claims she's done). When she started off she had a hard time accepting just how much support she was getting, especially people giving her large donations or even professing love to her in chat - it even got to the point where she cried on stream a couple times. She's said that starting off, she felt undeserving and it took her a while to accept people's kindness and learn to just say "thank you". But even then, some people still send her donation messages along the lines of "skipping meals to save the money to send you this" which I can tell still bothers her.
This song almost sounds like she's still feeling some guilt: so many people give her love and support, yet she has so many fans that it's extremely difficult for her to return the kindness to every individual fan. Nevertheless, knowing that they won't get much in return, her fans continue to give her unrequited love, sometimes even putting her above themselves. And perhaps this has left her feeling sometimes like she's selfishly thriving off other people's love and support. At the end of the song, I think her decision to "give you fire" means that despite her feelings of guilt, she'll keep producing her content if that's what people love. But "love the me that's killing you" - she'll accept her fans' love, but she wants them to be aware of just how far they sometimes are going for her.
EDIT: Well, it was a decent attempt and fun to think about, but a real same my theory was pretty far off from what Calli ended up saying the song was about in her lyric dive stream. Although hey ROAR, she did give a shout out to you in that stream and say she likes when other folks like you try to give their own interpretations of her songs, so maybe my theory still has some degree of validity as well. These are fun - I'll try to leave some more comments on your reactions to future Calliope songs!
huh interesting here everyone thought the song is towards kiara
"everyone"
No, just KFPs as usual.
Agreed. Its the ode of supporters and associated emotions.
@@FarEastIV please speak for yourself becuase I honestly didnt
Edit: no disrespect
@Puntum Keerasuntonpong Well, this whole thread seems to disagree, for one.
I think this song is about the parasocial relationship between vtubers/content creators in general and their viewers.
Crying and begging, a lovely sound
I tear at your soul, but you still stick around
What I've found is a treasure indeed
A friend who can bend to my every need
I'll use and abuse you and never feel bad, until suddenly, funnily, you take my hand
Tangle you tight in the yarns that I've spun
And I'll do it again to get what I want
Pretend that I'm harmless, I'm actually alarmed this is something charming to anyone (wow)
The fact can actually make death want to die
I'm the one that you love, and I'm making you cry
And it's just me after all
It's about how she's begging for the money, superchats, donations- she's not able to be there for people, she isn't their friend because she physically cannot.
The chat and the viewers bend to her every need, and she uses them, playing up her character for the money and for the donations- never feeling bad until she catches a glimpse of how much she means to people through the chats that she reads. She basically never breaks character outside of song- that it's all pretend and sometimes she struggles with the fact that she has to turn down all these people who are so exceedingly into this idea of her, hurting them over and over but they still stick around. She's just a woman, just another person, not someone worth loving without a chance in hell.
When the curtains finally close, and the show's really over
If you glance into my past, it's just nothing new
Lying, conniving, thriving on hate
I'll tell you it was all for you
I think this means, just a relation between her other persona, y'know who-- when the curtain falls on Calliope Mori as a character, the show is REALLY over, you could look at her archives and find that it's much the same. She plays this character, insulting the antis, the haters, thriving off of snappy comebacks and hardcore roasts- telling the viewers that all of it was for their sake.
I think a lot of people have latched onto the idea that it's Takamori because they don't want to talk about that kind of thing, the parasitic nature of streamers and entertainers, but really I can't see it being about Takamori- while there's some symbolism that could connect, I think the whole song just works so much better as an allegory about this, about her telling her audience that "You know, I want you to care that I want you to stay, So I swear I won't blame you if you turn away." That she wants them to stay, she needs them, but she wants people to put themselves first and stop watching her if she's hurting them. Takamori is rocky, but that's only an act. In reality, Kiara and Calli are (probably) just good friends, and there's none of this inherent negativity that comes through this song.
"And I'll say it again, that I know I'm the worst
So then how can you spend so much love on the person that hurts you
Like I do
'Cause inside I can't hide that I cannot desert you!
And if I'm the world to you, surely you never stood even a chance at all, didn't you?"
How can you spend so much love on the person that hurts you-- keyword I suppose being spend. Imagine all the people who donate red superchats each stream, hundreds and hundreds of dollars spent on someone who "you never stood even a chance at all" with. She can't say it outright, not anymore, she's an idol working for COVER Corp. She can't desert them, she can't leave them, but on the inside she yearns to tell people some of these things which she can only say through metaphor and song.
This is a bit messy, I'm tired, but I feel passionately about this interpretation lol
I am also super curious about whats going on here. btw the term she kept repeating in this song was "garou" meaning hungry wolf, although I didn't catch much else of the japanese.
as far as the japanese title its ijimekko which just means bully, so if your wondering when she mentions the title in the song just listen out for that, I only heard it once tho
I think shes really reflecting on her old music and life as she's done in the past. Shes growing alot and shes looking back and realizing that she's growing out of the amount of isolation and hate she had for the world before. She has a new perspective on things because of her new life and people around her.
Also, I think the person shes talking about hurting is Kiara because of how mean she used to be to her, but now shes recently really caring for her. She talks about how Kiara wouldn't leave her alone and stop being nice to her so Calli's hard shell is starting to open up a bit because of it
@@thedizaster115 I honestly dont think its about Kiara. but your first comment is indeed on point.
@@lop90ful1 could or could not, shes talked about different anonymous people in the past
@@thedizaster115 I honestly think its both. Its more general
its both about her past songs thriving off hate and her close relationships since shes soo focused on work that its hard for her to relax
I swear i’m not a conspiracy theorist but, OLD MUSIC?!?!?! ya know LIKE DEMONDICE
to me the references to ashes, fire and souls "sticking around" after she kills them are supposed to allude to Kiara (she is a phoenix, after all). but I also think maybe it's a red herring to distract from the fact that she's actually talking about her "toxic relationship" with herself and her perception of her fans... could be both, Calli often uses her songs to talk about more than one thing at the same time
the fifth music is exclusive for the fisical CD I think
Yeah, only physical cd.
Broke gang :'(
@@longboye9935 its not even broke gang its not japanese cant easily do shit with a jp e-commerce site gang and cant figure out how to order gang
@@charliebaker1427 lmao
Yo I cant even find where to find one
@@haizethrone7431 oh wait no thats birthday merch
2:46 my dude that is a mood
Yeah lol, but like for all of the hololive girls lol
Nice take on this song! This one was by far my favourite out of all the songs. You can do a follow up on the song when she releases an MV for it hopefully. Another one is getting released this month beside "Red", and another, next month. Nevertheless, this song was super good.
New Mori EP, Mori Birthday stream and a complete EP breakdown by Roar. Yeah today was a good day.
I love your reactions and the fact that you try to breakdown the song.
I don´t know if it´s because i´m feeling emotional because my pet cat died recently but this song made me cry. But yeah i know how it feels to recieve love but feels that i´m not worthy of it. I really like Calli´s music as well as the life lessons she teaches. That if something´s worth it then you need to fight for it and that sometimes life is gonna bring you down but you need to keep going. Now the lesson i get from this is that even if you think you´re the worst you are better than what you think of yourself and if someone loves you then don´t feel bad about reciprocating that.
I agree! I think sometimes we can also make ourselves think in our heads that we're the worst people, and love can seem irrational. Heck, I feel that way frequently.
I was watching some of your other Calli and Hololive reactions after these, and I saw you did some of the non-en stuff.
I wonder what you'd think of Towa's music. Her covers have more of a j-rock vibe rather than idol music. Palette is her first original song and has EN subtitles. I also recommend her Error cover.
Loving your content.
Hey thanks! :D I like Towa's content, she seems very fun and funny, I'll have to check out her music.
"Interesting....... I liked that" is really becoming a classic phrase here😆
I mean that’s just my life in general 😜
While this matches up perfectly with the lore, I think there is something real here. Someone who has foregone personal romance for her ambitions finds someone who just won't leave and she is afraid that now they are someone she can't do without. The emotional thread from "Cursed Night" flows right into this track.
The chorus of this song is so beautiful, especially the last one. The whole album is amazing.
Now that I'm through all of these, I'd love love LOVE to see you revisit the EP either after you check out the lyric dive Calli's done, or maybe in a stream where you watch it live?
Yeah I’m thinking of tackling the songs again with more in depth analysis perhaps 😁
I know that Calli already told us the story behind the songs in one of her stream... I wasn't there, but... Upon reading the Lyrics of Bully, I don't think that it's meant for Tenchou... it may seem like it at first, but it's not! Bully refers to Calli herself... We Dead Beats are the ones getting bullied, why? Because of the SCs and support thay we've given her. Calli never expected to receive such affection in the beginning, she's said it during the Trash Taste Podcast. Calli had the worst debut out of the HoloEN girls, her stream shows off her lack of experience, her set up sucks, she lagged... Her first ever stream was awful for her, she already expected to receive hate from us, she's prepared for it... Still, her expectations were shattered!!! We LOVE her. Dead Beats gave her the means to sustain her living and other endeavors, but she can never repay us for all of it, thus... She feels like she bullying us by taking away part of our "Souls" (Money/SC, time, affection, etc.) things that Calli can never return to us.
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This song is very heavy and self loathing (for Calli), well... IMO, Calli can't do anything about that... VTubing culture is just Simping for us viewers... Us Weebs will do anything and everything to support our WAIFU, it doesn't matter Who, doesn't matter How, doesn't matter Why... It just doesn't matter!!! You may think to yourself, Calli, that you're not doing anything for us... But, truth is... Just being there, simply allowing us to SIMP, allowing us to call yoy "Dad", allowing us to throw out SC, allowing us to see you SUCK at games, allowing us to hear you sing and rap... By just existing!!! Just that... Is enough to most of us. Don't mind us, it's not Bullying. Now, just go on.
Sadly, the last song "Empress (Calliope ver.)" is exclusive to the physical version of the EP.
Mori's music is so entrancing it makes you want to sing along
I mean... who is beautifull, has a soul from ashes and could very well be described as "dressed up in diamond dust" ? who can spend time with death herself and change her views uppon death ? who spend a lot a of time with death despite death always hurting her ? and who can keep on being killed by death infinetly ?
a Phoenix, our Phoenix, our beautifull death loving chicken : Takanashi Kiara, Kusotori ! I'm saying it, this is a love letter to kiara !!! (everything callie does is a love letter to kiara to me XD)
Great breakdown as always! Allow me to give one suggestion, and I apologise if it's a useless one, but maybe you can look up the lyrics first before listening to the song, so that you can read while breaking down the song? There are also sites which provide the translation, and I believe it'd really help!
This song is really powerful, but it's also the most confusing out of the four, I think. It's an ambiguous power and I really do love it for that. Also, she's not saying the word bully but she is saying "Haze you" a few times which is... pretty close?
By the way, the lyrics now appear to be online - I don't know how trustworthy they are but "waytolyrics" gave the impression of an official release the first time I found it. You could get (machine translated) english with those, if only for your own closure. Or you could learn japanese XD
Well I had to think about it, there’s plenty of artists that use titles for songs that are more or less synoptic of the lyrics themselves (while a bad example, 6ix9ine does this a lot). It’s whatev, I just hoped she’d kinda drive the point home because I wasn’t seeing anything of EXACTLY what she does to bully. But tha the just how I think 😝
@@RoarTheRapper Big fair on that, especially since she hasn't shied away from using the song title in the lyrics before. Also, today I learned of the word synoptic, neat.
Another Vtuber on youtube suggested that this song may actually be about red superchats and how they often donate very large amounts of money. Sometimes the same person spends hundreds of dollars on her every week. This is why she feels like a bully stealing lunch money because while she's concerned with the donor's well-being and is worried they might not have enough for food or rent (killing them), she can't make it stop and still uses it anyway as it IS a gift
Nice reaction can't wait till I get the CD and blast it in the car ( the best place for music btw)
Yeah the subs in the trunk gonna explode
@@FuzekiXD what
I stared at my phone for like 40 seconds when I heard my name on the song, like fam what in the world is goin on, anyways thanks for another reaction
Yo Roar I don't know if anyone mentioned this but she did a song with Rikka from Holostars and it supposed to get an MV later this month. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on it. They did the song live on Rikka's channel.
Love bully ,it and guh are my favorites on the ep but of course with empress being a cd exclusive we wont be able to listen to till they ship its hard to say how bomb that track is
Roar you should watch the actual music video of "Bully". she does provide lyrics in both Japanese and English in that video if you don't understand Japanese.
I did 😊
To I just now thought about this but she could be talking about the chat
This man is SPEED
Best song for me like top 3 of her songs i like
This is probably the best song she's ever written. Maybe. Not saying it is, there's some competition, but it definitely might be.
I think as far as her calli music its easily the best track and same with singing tracks by her but the raps not as potent as stuff from previous albums but thats true of all her non dd raps but still its a beautiful song and easily my favorite song in her last 3 albums
You know guys there is actually a 4 hour long lyric dive stream by calli where she talks about what the songs mean to her line by line. You can find it here on youtube if you search for "your mori lyric dive". Its really quite interesting and insightful.
Yeah she did that, after I posted these videos.
Can you react to Watame's rap?
("Watame Rap" and "Watame's TKG Ver. (TKGのうた)")
Ijiwaruna is Japanese for bully/bullied. Idk which one, just know it's one of them.
It’s actually “Ijimekko”
smol theory: but in character she is a reaper so the song may have more then one meaning but lore wise she is a reaper that has to kill her own fans...yet they still support her
The one and only thing I have to say is "wrong" with this song is that I feel like her voice is too quiet in comparison to the music in some parts, making it a little hard to hear what she's saying; like at 3:38. Not a big complaint, I absolutely love the song otherwise
Calli has talked about being a waitress before, so maybe she feels like she’s lying and deceiving people by putting on a mask and acting for the sake of her career?
She’s definitely talked about that too. There is some level of embellishment when you have a character you play online, as well as withholding who you really are. And she’s talked about how frustrating that is.
So it means Kiara is there for Calli?
She was saying in her lyrics breakdown that it applied to many relationships. She’s very closed off to people, and her fans, friends in Hololive, etc, have all been those forces that continue to love her regardless.
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