Shock tactics from David Starkey, showing why burning people is an effective tool of control. To watch the full lesson go to: • Jamie's Dream School |... www.channel4.co...
This teacher twist every negative behaviour, poor descion and rebellious attitude into a history lesson that is both enlightening and relatable to the students. Artfully done!
This is the sort of classroom experience that sticks in the mind and makes a difference. Engagement with young people who might otherwise be marginalised and let drift.
Starkey's enthusiasm and powerful teaching methods are truly awe inspiring. I wish I had a teacher back in the 1970s for history like him. A great man and a great historian the likes of which we may never see again. His ability to instil into people a proper understanding of what really happened is second to none.
Why? The entire expensive, time-consuming "lesson" taught the students what? That persecuting people for their religious convictions is stupid? That getting burned at the stake hurts? I rather doubt that students need to be "taught" that.
@@pricklypear7516 It's very important to convey to young people a sense of history. History is the past, now and the future in the making. The idea that people want to remove statues and change the past i.e. what really happened is repugnant and ignorant.
This will certainly get the message across. But a lot of kids at the level I teach, 15-year-olds, would’ve gone home to tell their parents and their parents would tell the school that it was just too terrifying and that I should be sacked.
Other examples: Dr Starkey forgets to mention the Mass executions of priests by various atheistic anti clericalist movements found especially in the 20th century (but beginning with the French Revolution) in places like Spain, Mexico, Russia, etc.
+BenedictusFan He was making a point in a given time. Your stupid for thinking he could have told every story of people being burnt at the stake. I guess he hit a nerve.
Pein Sama The agenda is to put the roman Catholic church where it belongs, that papacy is a child Of the devil and that it's the whore OF the revelation. How could they do this to people? And that spirit is still the same as the institution says that the church does not err or cannot be wrong!
The kid wearing the hat is not a 'dissenter' or trying to make a point by keeping his hat on in class. He's just never been taught manners or how to behave and is ignorant to how disrespectful and rude it is. You can tell by the quizzical look on his face when Starkey refers to it. He has no idea what Starkey is on about.
It is not the religion itself that says that people should do horrible things to others (well, at least most religions, like Christianity). It is the people who claim to follow those teachings, but have their own agenda, like the Catholic church. The Catholic Church has it's own agenda completely separate from the word of God. So, I disagree with the premise that religion is the root of the issue. It is people. I fully believe that many atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, or whoever now are capable of doing such things to people who differ from them, especially if there was some powerful head/leader telling them to do so.
Deuteronomy 20:16-18 16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them-the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites-as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.
They have their own opinions on what is right and what is wrong, instead of using God's standard for what is right and what is wrong. Eve did the exact same thing in the Garden of Eden when she started desiring the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Kind of odd and heavy handed to associate acts of violence such as this with all “religion” instead of clarifying that it’s actually religious extremism...I can’t imagine there’s a bias here tho
I would instead point out that burning at the stake wasn't a practice reserved specifically for religious offenses, so it could be seen as reflecting broader culture at the time and not specifically religion
@@sidnew2739 In the over a year since I have I’ve written that comment, I have read a history book. The Inquisition was grossly exaggerated, and yes. The state’s modus operandi was killing the heretics, rather than exile or some other lesser form of punishment.
It is probably the worst way to die if one is to be executed. Usually burning at the stake was reserved for the most "serious" of crimes, such as heresy, the idea being that to sin against God demands only the most severe and painful of punishments; basically pain as purgative.
@@orpheus9037 heresy isn't a serious crime. Hell I wouldn't even call it a crime. It's just not believing what the stupid church would have you believe. So basically they were silenced for speaking out.
@@thepanda1044 I think his point was that the medieval laws considered heresy as the most heinous of crimes along with high treason. The actual reason why heretics were condemned to the pyre was because the church is forbidden from spilling blood, therefore fire was used. The most perverse thing of all was that they actually thought that they were doing a favor to the victim, since the immense physical pain of the body would purify the soul and prevent it from going to hell.
It doesn't always. It depends a great deal on how the fire is set, how much fuel was used, etc. The way Starkey describes it, in this particular execution, it was that agonizingly slow. On other occasions, they would pile the wood around the victim high enough to conceal him/her, and that would kill much more quickly (and if the victim was lucky, even asphyxiate him on the smoke before the flames had done for him). Sometimes they would hang a bag containing gunpowder around the victim's neck, to blow him or her up before the flames could finish the job. There were a number of ways to do it, some quicker, and some slower.
This would be an excellent warhammer 40k propaganda film if it was a little sci-fi and talked about the Emperor. Might just have to write a short story and make it into Vulkans guide to burning heretics. It would be a childrens book and very cheery, full of propaganda.
Question is: what was the grand cultural epiphany that finally made authorities stop thinking they had a mandate to burn people at the stake for heresy and other crimes? And why did it take so long for them to come to their senses?
@@charliewatts6895 Not really. Then you just get people killing each other in the name of ideology. The last century has seen the Holodomor, the Shoah, The Great Leap Forward/Cultural Revolution, and the Killing Fields -- far, far more victims than the religious wars of the 16th and 17th centuries _ever_ produced. People need little excuse to unleash their inner demons. Religion certain has provided people with an excuse, and a sense of righteousness with which to assuage their consciences, but it is by _no_ means the only thing.
well, he was an eretic rebel, as all rebels he deserved to be punished. People have to understand they have to obey whatever it is told them to do, or think, it is necessary
That protestant nonsense was to give the situation context by which the kids might relate to the travesty of the act of burning another human being alive. There are countless examples throughout history of burning human beings in this fashion, but again the point is to physically demonstrate the act as well as provide an example of when this sort of thing happened, not an effort exclude other reasons.
Peter thomas I understand that you have your own opinion but please have some respect for people who do believe in religion so pleasee don't be rude as for I am religious aswell as MANY others
The funny thing about your comment is whenever people blame religion it's always Christianity that they're referring to. Paganism was always a progressive way and philosophy became it's bridge to explain things that would eventually become scientific but because of Christianity this progress was halted and people began to think backwards.
The self-proclaimed "I am gay & my name is David Starkey", seems rather over-excited with his burning the heretic presentation. One wonders what we'll dig up in his own history, now that he's been cancelled. He's a male who publicly disrespects his own mother for her Christianity & Morality. He shames himself daily & we no longer have to hear about his "mummy complaints." Now go back to your gay den quietly for a change, Starkey. Cambridge Univ. is through with your self-appointed power game.
This teacher twist every negative behaviour, poor descion and rebellious attitude into a history lesson that is both enlightening and relatable to the students. Artfully done!
@@thepanda1044
Have an espresso.
@@g0679 but it's true
This guy is a great teacher, would of enjoyed history class a lot more with him around
How prophetic
It's a shame he's being so wrongly persecuted now over nothing less than the truth.
@@fredbreadbun6277 what
Lord, we need teachers like this guy.👍👍👍
This is the sort of classroom experience that sticks in the mind and makes a difference. Engagement with young people who might otherwise be marginalised and let drift.
God he's a bloody good teacher
Starkey's enthusiasm and powerful teaching methods are truly awe inspiring. I wish I had a teacher back in the 1970s for history like him. A great man and a great historian the likes of which we may never see again. His ability to instil into people a proper understanding of what really happened is second to none.
I loved history in high school ! It is interesting to see how history repeats itself only in different ways.
David Starkey is national treasure. He's basically the David Attenborough of history.
Nothing wrong with this . Its better to tell the truth then go around . I wish we could have a teacher like that when i was in school 30 years ago .
Well most teachers nowerdays are still shit so you dont miss out on anything
Watching David Starkey having these troubled students in the palm of his hand is an absolute pleasure to watch.
This is my kind of teacher.
Why? The entire expensive, time-consuming "lesson" taught the students what? That persecuting people for their religious convictions is stupid? That getting burned at the stake hurts? I rather doubt that students need to be "taught" that.
@@pricklypear7516 It's very important to convey to young people a sense of history. History is the past, now and the future in the making. The idea that people want to remove statues and change the past i.e. what really happened is repugnant and ignorant.
This will certainly get the message across. But a lot of kids at the level I teach, 15-year-olds, would’ve gone home to tell their parents and their parents would tell the school that it was just too terrifying and that I should be sacked.
This guy brings history to life.
Literally
Great teacher. Students seem a bit dense.
He's so good at teaching
No shit
I like the dude drinking coffee like it's just Tuesday.
I enjoy Mr. Starkey he is my kind of historian!!
At first I thought this was going to be a comedy sketch.
Wait, it isn't?!
Well done Jamie on having the vision for this school!
What a nice time to live in eh?
I love David starkey he is so brilliant 👍
Other examples: Dr Starkey forgets to mention the Mass executions of priests by various atheistic anti clericalist movements found especially in the 20th century (but beginning with the French Revolution) in places like Spain, Mexico, Russia, etc.
The list goes on and on.
I doubt that he "forgot". He hasn't got all day to go through all of the many examples.
+BenedictusFan He was making a point in a given time. Your stupid for thinking he could have told every story of people being burnt at the stake. I guess he hit a nerve.
Are you blind? He has an obvious agenda.
Pein Sama
The agenda is to put the roman Catholic church where it belongs, that papacy is a child Of the devil and that it's the whore OF the revelation. How could they do this to people? And that spirit is still the same as the institution says that the church does not err or cannot be wrong!
For the Emperor!
Hail, brother.
Purge the heretic with holy fire!
@Nogent yes
Burn heretics!!! We shall bring retribution to the emperor’s enemies
Emperor who?
Having their coffee, playing with their iPhones. They do not give a rat's ass.
Burn the phones
apple is heresy!!
@@heraldyvraine8543 bolters brothers! Slay down those who marked by apple of sin
I don't either.
There was too much at stake....
Dude these kids get traumatized for breakfast 😂
Amazing teacher!!!!!!
Lord Protector Starkey dispensing justice on a Lib Dem MP
😄
The kid wearing the hat is not a 'dissenter' or trying to make a point by keeping his hat on in class. He's just never been taught manners or how to behave and is ignorant to how disrespectful and rude it is. You can tell by the quizzical look on his face when Starkey refers to it. He has no idea what Starkey is on about.
In the name of the God Emperor, I shall cleanse the filthy from their sins of heresy and existence.
It is not the religion itself that says that people should do horrible things to others (well, at least most religions, like Christianity). It is the people who claim to follow those teachings, but have their own agenda, like the Catholic church. The Catholic Church has it's own agenda completely separate from the word of God.
So, I disagree with the premise that religion is the root of the issue. It is people. I fully believe that many atheists, Christians, Jews, Muslims, or whoever now are capable of doing such things to people who differ from them, especially if there was some powerful head/leader telling them to do so.
Rubbish! You should try reading the Bible and the Quran. Both advocate atrocities to human beings.
Deuteronomy 20:16-18
16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. 17 Completely destroy[a] them-the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites-as the Lord your God has commanded you. 18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.
They have their own opinions on what is right and what is wrong, instead of using God's standard for what is right and what is wrong. Eve did the exact same thing in the Garden of Eden when she started desiring the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Starkey is a God among men.
The kids are now scarred for life.
No. Most people aren't that mentally fragile.
I used to do this once a year when I was a teacher. I did not realise one should have used a mannequin.
EXTERMINATUS
*laughs in horus heresy*
Great lesson.
Instructions unclear, started an uprising
Kind of odd and heavy handed to associate acts of violence such as this with all “religion” instead of clarifying that it’s actually religious extremism...I can’t imagine there’s a bias here tho
How was it extremism if it was state policy at the time across multiple countries in Europe? Lol
@@Kyle_Schaff when was it state policy?
I would instead point out that burning at the stake wasn't a practice reserved specifically for religious offenses, so it could be seen as reflecting broader culture at the time and not specifically religion
@@AndrewTheMandrew531
Read a history book now and then!
@@sidnew2739 In the over a year since I have I’ve written that comment, I have read a history book. The Inquisition was grossly exaggerated, and yes. The state’s modus operandi was killing the heretics, rather than exile or some other lesser form of punishment.
He neglected to mention this STILL happens in the Middle East, Africa, and South America.
I very much like his name
My 12 X Gt. Grandfather John Rogers (1507 - 1555) was burnt as a Heretic at Smithfield.
May he Rest In Peace.
you have a famous grandfather he is first martyr of Henry VIII first daughter
Imagine if a spirit that this happened to is there watching
Probably pretty cathartic for him tbh
I never realised that death by this method took so long, truely a gruesome, horrific way to die.
Yes, they did it to Joan of Arc.
It is probably the worst way to die if one is to be executed. Usually burning at the stake was reserved for the most "serious" of crimes, such as heresy, the idea being that to sin against God demands only the most severe and painful of punishments; basically pain as purgative.
@@orpheus9037 heresy isn't a serious crime. Hell I wouldn't even call it a crime. It's just not believing what the stupid church would have you believe. So basically they were silenced for speaking out.
@@thepanda1044 I think his point was that the medieval laws considered heresy as the most heinous of crimes along with high treason. The actual reason why heretics were condemned to the pyre was because the church is forbidden from spilling blood, therefore fire was used. The most perverse thing of all was that they actually thought that they were doing a favor to the victim, since the immense physical pain of the body would purify the soul and prevent it from going to hell.
It doesn't always. It depends a great deal on how the fire is set, how much fuel was used, etc. The way Starkey describes it, in this particular execution, it was that agonizingly slow. On other occasions, they would pile the wood around the victim high enough to conceal him/her, and that would kill much more quickly (and if the victim was lucky, even asphyxiate him on the smoke before the flames had done for him). Sometimes they would hang a bag containing gunpowder around the victim's neck, to blow him or her up before the flames could finish the job. There were a number of ways to do it, some quicker, and some slower.
This is not what I meant when I searched “burn fat men”
Loool laughed way harder than I should 😂
This would be an excellent warhammer 40k propaganda film if it was a little sci-fi and talked about the Emperor. Might just have to write a short story and make it into Vulkans guide to burning heretics. It would be a childrens book and very cheery, full of propaganda.
Sorry for the late comment. I laughed when I read this. I love this kind of dark wtf humor. A salute a fellow twisted mind.
BURN THE HERETIC! KILL THE MUTANT! PURGE THE UNCLEAN! -chapter master.
Anti religious propaganda.
He's telling the truth.
It happened in real life snowflake
They should bring this back for death row.
Love 💕 David Starkey!
How do we stop the crazy
A great teacher.
Good explanation !
I see NOTHING wrong with this
@@erikblomquist88
No he's obviously human
@@erikblomquist88
oof
Johanis Ardnt no he is servant of the Emperah
We wouldn't have to deal with Protestants if we could just burn them all.
@@erikblomquist88 why would we make blood sausages? It’s a sin.
“Alright class, today we’re going to burn somebody”
This guy is crazy
predators burning aliens
What goes around comes around
strict but fair
How many millions have died for religious beliefs or lack of them
Question is: what was the grand cultural epiphany that finally made authorities stop thinking they had a mandate to burn people at the stake for heresy and other crimes? And why did it take so long for them to come to their senses?
Renaissance, rise of secularism, moving away from the illusionary sky gods, science.
@@charliewatts6895 Not really. Then you just get people killing each other in the name of ideology. The last century has seen the Holodomor, the Shoah, The Great Leap Forward/Cultural Revolution, and the Killing Fields -- far, far more victims than the religious wars of the 16th and 17th centuries _ever_ produced.
People need little excuse to unleash their inner demons. Religion certain has provided people with an excuse, and a sense of righteousness with which to assuage their consciences, but it is by _no_ means the only thing.
Why do I watch these and never listen in school.
Becouse your probably smart
@@Caseyafi smarter than you, evidently.
You don’t have Dr. Starkey as a teacher.
Is the body real?
That is a long time to be tortured.
Humans, you did it again
FOR TEH EMPRAH
Am I the only one who thinks that Henry might have a textbook case of Anti-Social Personality Disorder?
Why would you let him touch the fire bad school
It needs to be returned 💀
Great stuff the irony is the pc health and safety Brigade would. It be to do this experiment ,
Me when i see the efffigy: dang i wish i had a sausage
When i saw the guy in the fire i thought he was real but it wasnt-
Same 😐
Religion…
Pretty based ngl.
Humans did such terrible things out of faith and religion. Show my any atheist, who did this things out of atheism! Show me!
Wtf does this have to do with cooking?
Is that Darren Grimes on the fire?
"this is what people do in the name of religion." You mean in the name of ideas (accepted at faith value) they cannot allow other people to have.
I'd always show this to people who say that they were born in the wrong age.
Fortunately some paid the executioner to put a bag of gunpowder around the person about to be burnt to speed up their death
Dont worry guys he just making dinner or offering sacrifices its not a big deal
the lesson is: more wood
adolebitque haereticis et paganis
This is way before The British Empire
The inquisition supports you all the way!!!
50,000 estimated witches were killed throughout the Church’s history. Out of all those less than 500 were carried out or condoned by the Church.
@@AndrewTheMandrew531 I highly doubt that to be true. The church is the reason why the stupid inquisition happened to begin with
The comments are at war with each other.
@CoolParkourName Im the one that mess around
With the left.....this will come back around.
well, he was an eretic rebel, as all rebels he deserved to be punished. People have to understand they have to obey whatever it is told them to do, or think, it is necessary
Yisshhh I'm going to pass on this one dog
Except for all the protestant nonsense, quite helpful. It went a lot better after seeing this.
That protestant nonsense was to give the situation context by which the kids might relate to the travesty of the act of burning another human being alive. There are countless examples throughout history of burning human beings in this fashion, but again the point is to physically demonstrate the act as well as provide an example of when this sort of thing happened, not an effort exclude other reasons.
Thanks for teaching me to burn witches sis
Dont give Sadiq Khan ideas !
People being shitty to one another in the name of religion.
The thing that he asked .
I can only say burning suffering death terror end of the world end of the humanity
OMG WHY TO KIDS
Their teens
Because stupid liberals keep preaching children are our future. So by teaching them this stuff is to try to keep it from happening again. Obviously 🙄
Religion has a lot to answer for, why people still believe in such nonsensical fairytales is beyond me.
Peter thomas I understand that you have your own opinion but please have some respect for people who do believe in religion so pleasee don't be rude as for I am religious aswell as MANY others
That sounds like heresy to me
If religion as a concept has to take all the blame for the inquisition, then atheism has to take all the blame for the soviet and maoist massacres.
This is nothing. The church sometimes tortured people for months before killing them.
The funny thing about your comment is whenever people blame religion it's always Christianity that they're referring to. Paganism was always a progressive way and philosophy became it's bridge to explain things that would eventually become scientific but because of Christianity this progress was halted and people began to think backwards.
🌌🕵️🦅
It's not the religion its the people so kids get your facts straight
Fuck you all
Super informative education until he had to draw his own agenda/bias about religion at the end lol. Religion didn't do this, the evil in people did.
Hooray for diversity. Hahaha
Unfortunately this practice has gone out of use for criminals
The self-proclaimed "I am gay & my name is David Starkey", seems rather over-excited with his burning the heretic presentation. One wonders what we'll dig up in his own history, now that he's been cancelled. He's a male who publicly disrespects his own mother for her Christianity & Morality. He shames himself daily & we no longer have to hear about his "mummy complaints." Now go back to your gay den quietly for a change, Starkey. Cambridge Univ. is through with your self-appointed power game.
Time for him to Flame out ?
This is disgusting. What gives David Starkey the right to take another man's life?
It's okay, it was only Darren Grimes :)
DOIIIII RELIGION IS BADD DOIIIIII I'M A WOKE ANGLO ATHIEST
Look at all those "English" youth 🤣