Why I Am 'Upgrading' To The RC-500 From The RC-10R
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There's a trick to the rc10r that makes it a great looper. No reviews seem to highlight it.
You first need a dual phase footswitch, for example the boss fs7. Make ctr1 and ctr2 memory up and down... now pick how many drum changes you want choose the patterns youd like to build your song. Write them to consecutive memory patches eg 123... now you have 6 drum patterns and 6 fills. When you mem up and down these will automatically play when the current loop completes the cycle it's playing. More parts to your songs... I've made songs with upto five parts using this method...thats 10 loops. If you use it live you can arrange all your drum tracks for a complete set.
But really i use push 2 and ableton 11 suite for proper gigs.
I do this with a Jam Man Solo XT; I just never use the internal drum sounds except as a metronome. Very helpful to have the auxiliary footswitch to step through intro, verse, chorus, ending; you can even set the last loop in your sequence to fade, if you like. Still, it's a big drawback that you only have numbers for each loop rather than names; I have to keep a chart handy, but given only a 3 digit LED display, I gotta live with that, but I also get 200 slots up to 15 minutes each and 200 more on a card. I build the loops and backing tracks in my DAW at home and build the arrangements on the fly, at the gig, so if I want to solo over another chorus (or verse, bridge, interlude, whatever) I'm good to go. Feeding the Jam Man from a Zoom A3 acoustic preamp with a mic input greatly expands the possibilities for looping vocals and percussion.
Brilliant stuff, Aaron! Thank you for making this video. We got the 10r when it was new and loved it, but the more we play it, the more frustrating it becomes. This is exactly the insight we needed. Your video is very concise, articulate, and helpful. Thank you from southern California!
Thank you!
Thanks, Aaron. Great review and very good and practical information!
Thanks Chris. More coming soon!
That intro music was fantastic! I’m thinking I should bust out the acoustic more often- such a gentle sound
Thank you! I love looping acoustic.
Fantastic Review!! I simply could not decide between the RC-10R and the RC-500, but now I know which one I want! Thank you!!!
Excellent!
Thank you! I was looking for real word differences between these two that would help me make my decision. As soon as you mentioned how the RC-500 allows you to adjust the separate elements of the rhythm tracks, I knew that was the one for me.
I like the RC-500 a lot!
Aaron Short Music Have you. It been tempted by the RC-505 with a breakout midi foot controller? With its 5 tracks plus heavier feature count it might be the perfect writing / live solution.
Like your videos, Aaron! RC-500, Aeros Looper and QuantiLoop - my solutions at the moment too. Will switch to apps like QuantiLoop in future too. Just waiting for the AirStep MIDI controller.
Great video Aaron. So very well explained which is great for us learners.
Thank you great video I’ll buy both
Cool!
well done mate. Just bought a rc10r but will buy a 500 as well now..I hope you get your cut..
That would be nice. Enjoy!
Aaron. I look forward to your detailed demo of the RC-500
Thanks Don. I’ll be showing it as a part of my new board I’m completing this week.
@@aaronshortmusic I am also looking forward to learning your workflow on the RC-500. I just got started but need to dive deeper. Also, the sound quality is exceptional. PS: What else are you putting on your new pedal board?
@@gair1944 I’ll be reveling my latest board on tomorrow live stream Gary. With more to come soon!
Thank you
That guitar sounds amazing bro
Thank you Tad!
Great video Aaron!, I will love to have a small pedalboard with the TC Helicon Harmony G XT for vocal fx’s and harmonies, maybe the NUX Stageman for guitar Preamp and the RC 500 for looping, I own the Mesa Boogie Rosette, amazing preamp, but a little bit on the bigger side and no reverb built in, as a Ditto x4 owner, I can see the RC 500 in my pedalboard, les tap dancing, no double tap for stop, etc. IMHO the RC500 is the best looper around for a singer/guitar player. I’ll be waiting for your demo. Cheers.
Thank you. I think you will find my new pedalboard very interesting. It has the TC, Boss and HX Stomp and it’s all controlled via MIDI.
A valuable video for looper seekers! I had flirted with the RC-30 and nearly bought it, but was turned off by some of the negative market feedback and decided to wait for something better. Enter the RC-500, which I just unboxed and can’t wait to try! :-) Really looking forward to being able to tweak the backing drums to my taste as a solo acoustic performer. Definitely want to see more about your pedalboard soon! Now building my new one around a Boss VE-500 (vocal compression, EQ, reverb and harmonies) with an FS-7 dual footswitch for dedicated functions, my brand-new RC-500 for backing rhythms on about 50% of my my repertoire - perhaps with my FS-6 footswitch added for extra functions - and, as guitar preamps for 1-3 guitars (different types and tunings) either my Zoom A1 Four with various presets and/or my Carl Martin Acoustic Gig and/or my Elite Acoustics StompMix 4 (YES, I indeed have YOU to thank for that great recommendation!!!!) :-) Oh, and my Fire-Eye Red-Eye dual-input preamp is also a contender for that board. Not on board (pun intended) are the other devices you spoke of, and for some of the same reasons: BeatBuddy + Aeros + Midi Maestro. I‘m fed up with complexity in use and big set-ups. The BeatBuddy is superb, but if you don‘t set it up for „one-press songs“ that just run from part to part from beginning to end, then you have to keep remembering to hit the pedal at the right moments for transitioning and fills. Even with an external footswitch or the MidiMaestro, I find that adds a layer of complexity that is too much for me when I just want to be performing and immerse myself in the music. As for the Aeros, its potential is huge, but I totally agree with you that the software is still not quite where it needs to be...and I was an early adopter so have been waiting a great long time for this expensive device to get it right. Then there‘s the HUGE annoyance on both the Aeros and the Midi Maestro that the footswitches are really loud when actuated!!! Hate that, especially when trying to lay down a subtle loop in a quiet environment. The switches are loud, and the boxes are designed to reverberate and amplify that. No dampening, apparently. Really poor design. The Boss RC-500 does a MUCH better job on the switches. No gripes at all on them. I figure the RC-500 will give me all the basic functionality I‘ve been waiting to get out of the BeatBuddy + Aeros + Midi Maestro in a fraction of the size and with a much easier workflow. Even if I add an external dual footswitch, it‘s going to be more compact and efficient than the Singular Sound set-up. Not only that, but the Boss software is apparently more or less fine right out of the box, and the unit looks sexy, too. ;-)
I agree with you 100%. It sounds like we are building similar boards. I’ll share mine soon!
@@aaronshortmusic Cool - looking forward to it! Just made my final decisions and stuck all my devices on tonight and will cable them up tomorrow (with a Strymon Zuma as a power source for everything). The StompMix 4 - with its up to 10 switchable scenes - is going to come in really handy for different guitars, occasional duo gigs, etc. So happy you turned me onto that little marvel! Running into a HK Audio Polar 10, I can get away with using only two (!) of the Polar‘s four inputs for the whole setup! That‘s brilliant.
@@scottbecker3485 Cool would love to see it!
These are the same struggles I had as well. Great review. I'm checking out the 500 as I have already sold my 10-R..~cheers
Hey John. I really like it. I have a few very small ‘niggles’ but I am very happy with my purchase. Check out my livestream from today and last week. I’m using the RC-500.
Aaron, the world would be greatly improved if you were to do a short one on this part of it... I have a new 500 and have watched damn near every video there is, and I know it is possible to lay down verse/chorus, but I absolutely cannot make it happen. The only preference I can find is for the playback, nothing for the recording side. Every time I look at Track 2 it ends up on Track 1 regardless!
Thanks much for the content you’ve already put up. I wanted to just get the 10R but there is just a sort of frantic quality to the drum tracks that I knew I would regret for the extra $50.
@@dwl231 Hi David. Do you mean you want to know how to record in series?
@@aaronshortmusic yep, I’m missing something apparently in triggering the recording to start on the 2nd channel or track. I’ve seen it on a few videos but it looks like there’s some extra button tapping going on and I haven’t seen anyone just slow down and explain the process. And thanks for the reply!
@@dwl231 I only look in parallel but I use prerecorded loops in series. I will try it out next time I use it!
I been debating between rc10 and rc500 and I feel like you really helped me make a choice
They are both good but I really like the RC-500 for live use!
Awesome!
I looked at a bunch of loopers with drums, the RC10 was a contender but the RC500 looked more like what I wanted , so I ordered it. Be here next week.
Congrats. It’s a great unit!
Well,..🤨I’ve had no issue with the Boss RC-10R using it “Live” or whatever! Had mine for quite awhile now and cannot wait to get on it and Jam & create Loops of Cover tunes + original songs!! Gotta have my Groove Beats so the Boss RC-10R gets it done‼️ (but , there’s nothing bad about the RC-500 or 600 that came out!👍🏾) Get what’cha like folks and Jam On‼️🤘🏾😁✨🎸🎵🎛✨
Thank you !
You’re welcome!
You da man. Great content as always.
Thanks!
Hello, thank you very much for the video, it helped me a lot in the decision to buy the RC-10R.
Just a question: Does it have an option to put effects like Reverb and Delay on the instrument that you connect directly to it?
Is it possible to put a complete song of about 4 minutes inside it to use during the Show?
New subscriber here,and I agree 100% about the RC500 TOTALLY!!!! Looking 4ward to seeing all these 1 man band possibilities with them!!! Some gigs one MAY want to just...em..BE YOURSELF,ya know??? Lol... Thanks again.....Loop ON MY NEW FRIEND!!!! LOOP ON!!!
Cheers John!
Hi Aaron I’ll buy the rc500 I have a new fender player plus coming this week I’m an intermediate player and never used a looper before this will be my first I don’t mind spending money if I get something good that will last a few years you no the way technology changes over night bro 😎 here’s from Ireland 🇮🇪 love your channel
Aaron you're the best!!
I have the 505MK2, Beatbuddy, the OC5, aka the ultimate band!
Hi, tks for the video. There is something I am unsure about the rc500. Can you loop parallel as well serial? I mean can you record a verse and immediately switch to record the chorus and then playback the verse etc?
Yes you can Mac. It’s in the settings and can be stored either way in each memory slot!
Does the drum machine has the same characteristics (2 variations for the same pattern that could be changed on live playing, the start roll & ending one for each pattern) as the RC-10R? Thanks for your explanation
It does but sadly no drum intro/outros.
I almost got the 500, but I use a modeler, and my board is getting too big so I went with the RC10r. I use the MIDI functionality of the FM9 to pull up stored pads, backing tracks or looper presets on the RC10 automatically when I change song patches, and I can use the FM9 to control the looper functions, too. If real estate is limited, and a person does use a platform which has robust MIDI functionality, many of these more compact loopers can work pretty well.
Thanks Mark. I felt like the 500 wasn’t much bigger bad like to have the extra track. The 10r is ma cool pedal though and sometimes pedalboard real estate is limited like you said.
@@aaronshortmusic I think too, that somebody online - a reviewer - Andertons maybe, convinced me that the rhythm section was slightly more developed on the RC10, which may have been another consideration. If the unit didn’t have MIDI capability, it would have been a disappointment and I would have gone with a more capable unit. As with most all of these processor driven units these days, their limitations can be as much just the ability to control them. If I were looping vocals, the 500 would win just for the mic input (for example). Just a slightly different feature set, as you pointed out. MIDI opens a lot of doors for these little boxes, though. They cram so much into them, even the RC-5, it’s nice to have the ability to properly utilize and incorporate most of the features.
Thanks for the review Aaron! I'm interested in picking up a looper primarily as a songwriting tool. My only concern with the 500 would be a lack of drum options. Are you able to go in and customize the drum loops on the 500, or are you essentially stuck with 57 pre-made beats?
You are correct but you can always import a drum loop onto track 1 and 2 using wav files.
@@aaronshortmusic much appreciated, ordered the 500, can't wait!
@@jackf8 Congrats!
Had the 500 for a couple weeks and while you can't customize or create beats from scratch the included beats are pretty customizable. There's 2 variations on every preset, and you can also turn on or off any of 5 parts in each preset. That combined with tempo and I've found so far I can make what i'm looking for. I will say that out of the box I was not thrilled, but once i got into customizing it, which you can do extensively with all three footswitches, and save for each memory, Im starting to love it.
Thank you for this. Are you Australian? I bought the Boss red,first looperRC-1 and looking to upgrade .your vid. pointed the way.
British now living in the USA.
I have an Excel spread sheet to remember what is on my RC10R.. some of my songs unfortunately use use more then one channel and it sucks because there is only 99. For me I want a looping pedal that has a option for more the just 2 parts. So then then I could do Verse, Chorus, Key change and Bridge.
It sounds like you could use a 3 or 4 track looper. You can also connect two of the Boss loopers together via MIDI.
Venry interesting video. So I bought the RC 500 after having seeing your video but it seem to be impossible to have the drum and the guitar on seperate output on the RC 500. I have always my drum on the two output (so the drum is in my guitar amp with a ugly sound ;- ) ) did you have the same trouble ? Did you find the way to really separate drum and guitar on the output ? Thanks
Yes. If you go to the INPUT button menu, there is an option to move between A&B output, A output, or B output, or loop.
@@aaronshortmusic thank you very much. It is strange to have to go into the INPUT menu for OUTPUT setting. 😯 thank you very much for your advice. 🙏🏻
@@aelchante Good point. I would have also assumed it would be in the output settings.
Thank you so much Aaron, this has really helped cement my decision. It looks like the RC-10R would suit be best as I plan to use it as a sketchpad / song writing tool, does that sound right to you?
That’s a tough one. If you really want the drum intros and outros maybe but I would personally get the RC-500.
@@aaronshortmusic Just watched your RC-500 review, i think you're right. Going to amazon it, so I can always get both and return one I guess. Anyways, thanks buddy, subscribed - keep doing the good stuff!
Yes i have both and live especially if you are performing on your own, rc 10r still much better, but also much easier, i hear many complain about the rc 10r, can't do this, cant sync the drum, can't do that... I found out all of them actually didn't know how to use it, i get there is a lot to read and practice to be quick in live situation but if you want these type of loop pedal......
Do the RC-500's two tracks work as selectable serial or parallel mode, so there can be a verse and chorus etc like the RC-10r. And if so, is that storable per memory preset?
Yes to all of those things!
@@aaronshortmusic Thank you.
Hello, I wanted to buy RC 10R but I have only one amp I use the effects on the Amp like overdrive etc. how do I connect RC-10R to amp ...wont the beats rhythm also get overdrive effect through AMP? Can you explain how you connect AMP, Guitar and Pedal?
Hi. Yes if you connect the pedal to the amp it will be affected by your amps distortion etc. You really need to send the drum sounds out to a PA speaker or similar. It would work OK into a clean amp if you were using your pedals to create the distortion sounds.
The 500 is great.
Regarding the RC-600, where do I begin. First of all, that bright large flashing eye light would give me a headache (it already is.) Who's idea was that? Imagine it at night- blinding. The ring would have been enough.
It's far too big. Don't they do focus groups? Most musicians are looking for smaller, lighter footprints- not door stops. The upper right area is a complete waste of real estate. All that space (approx. 10"x4") just for 3 small buttons? It easily could have been made ~30% smaller.
It should have been made black with brushed aluminum and nicer LED's as to at least differentiate it's appearance from the RC-500 and give it a more modern look. Still no touch-screen and relatively small non-HD screen.
I'm sure it is capable with a million effects and inputs that most will never need or use, but I definitely would not buy this. I have an RC-500 that works great is about 1/4 the side and still quite capable. It has a great battery power option and nice physical volume sliders for each track. I don't like having to menu dive and be blinded by large blinking lights when I play.
Looking at the specs, I don't see anything particularly compelling to make me select this over my RC-500- at all. If you need to loop a half dozen instruments at the same time- maybe but that probably wouldn't even sound good. Both this and the 500 offer nice 32-bit sound quality. With the 600, I believe that you even lose the convenience of battery power (no more fun camping jams plus it would not fit in my tent!)
Please somebody explain how you can assign different rhythms one to each track when you have the RC500 in single mode and you're using each track as Verse and Chorus. Thanks.
You can not but you can set up a switch that changes to a variation of the rhythm. This is what I would use for a chorus.
I don't like the missing of phone jack, when we play alone it's mandatory.
Metronome! No one ever talks about the metronomes and midi sync. And I like the big circle display. Can it produce its own midi clock? The core1000 has a metronome and loop, but won't sync with anything (the loop effect, itself).
I believe it sends MIDI clock.
Can you use the RC-500 to control the tempo of the BeatBuddy via midi? If so, would you be able to upload a video of that?
Hi Ben, yes you can. I wanted to be able to tap the tempo into the RC-500 but then have it’s stored presets send that tempo out to my HX Stomp. I managed to do this by setting the RC-500 to ‘Internal’ in the MIDI settings.
@@aaronshortmusic Thank you for the prompt response! (and excellent video). Is the HX Stomp in-between the RC-500 and the BeatBuddy for this to work properly? Or can we go directly from the RC-500 to the BeatBuddy?
@@bensanders7804 You can connect them without the HX Stomp.
Boss RC 300 is where it’s at!!! There BEST LOOPER BY FAR
I haven’t tried that one yet!
@@aaronshortmusic you won’t be disappointed if you try it out, I was going to get an RC-500 but was afraid of outgrowing it, rc 300 is older but has a load of drums expression pedal and 3 individual loopers with 99 memory slots
Does the RC-500 have the transitional fills and the ending in the drum section? thanks man
Unfortunately not.
I can hear Sebastian Bach singing on the intro!
When you are explaining the ‘two tracks’ for the looper,what does that mean? I have an RC-1 looper by Boss . I suppose that is one track?
Yes this looper has two independent tracks/loops.
@@aaronshortmusic I have a question - it has only 2 parts, which means chorus and versus, but what about bridge part ? If I want to have chorus, versus, bridge, chorus again. Is it possible with this pedal ?
I have another question.
How can i Play Christmas Songs or any Songs with many chords? Do I have to play any chord? 0lay the whole Song before I can Loop again? Do You understand my question?
Play the whole song through or record it in advance and store it in one of the memories.
@@aaronshortmusic 👍🙋🏻♂️
What is the model of your acoustic guitar . Great review:)
Maton Nashville Cutaway.
@@aaronshortmusic Thank you 👍
Hi Aaron! I'm a loopers lover and right now I'm doubting between Singular Sound Aeros or RC-500. Of course I know they are completely different. But I have a doubt that does not let me sleep! does the RC-500 allow you to go from one slot to another (for example from 6 to 7, then from 7 to 8 and from 8 to 6) without pauses? in other words: can I mount a song on 5 different slots?
I also wonder: is it possible to change slots when you finish a loop and want to start another, without crouching to the ground? I mean, with your feet? (for example from slot 5 to 67)
I can currently do this with the Digitech JamMan, but it's not a very reliable live pedal ...
Thanks a lot in advance!! cheers from Barcelona :-) leo
Hi Leo! I tried this today. When you change presets (you can assign a foot switch or midi footswitch to do this) the looper does continue at the same tempo! This is really good but the next loop will not start paying so you will have to change and then immediately start the next loop. You can also use a two RC-500’s together via MIDI.
@@aaronshortmusic Thank you, Aaron!! ok, I understand that is possible change between presets/slots, but is difficult for me to imagine me playing, changing preset, waiting the exactly moment of the change to start de new loop...and play the guitar at the same time! haha ....Waiting for a new video from you! cheers!! :-)
I just posted my review!
@@aaronshortmusic Thank you so much, Aaron!! I'll go right now for my pedal; Boss should know this!
@@leohipaucha8768 Thanks Leo. I hope while answering your question I wasn’t misleading. I was testing to see if each preset could be used in one performance like you asked. Obviously the two tracks in the looper work fine like this. I may remove this part of the video but I’m glad it was helpful to you!
Aaron, I appreciate what you say at 5.05 about how a cymbal at the end of every bar “gets really old really quick”, but can you please clarify this a little more?
You say “it’s not really a problem because you’d never record a one bar loop”. Do you mean the 10R puts a cymbal at the end of every BAR or at the end of every LOOP (or both)?
We hear the cymbal as you close your (one bar) loop, which suggests it’ll be there at the end of every loop regardless of length. On a short loop this will clearly be problematic but I normally play quite long verse/chorus type loops of differing length so the cymbal might not matter, but just to clarify; do you mean it ALWAYS puts a cymbal in at the end of each LOOP?
My current rig uses a Pigtronix Infinity and a SDRUM but this involves different power supplies, lots of connections and a lot of pedal board real estate.
I like the look of the RC10R mainly for its compact size but also because (I'm told) the 10R has more comprehensive onboard drums than the 500. For example the concept of 'transition fills' on the RC10R seems exciting in a live performance, will the RC500 at least give you transition fills?
Anyway thanx for a great demo.
Hi Dennis. The 10R is such a fun pedal but there is no drum mixer like in the 500 and it adds this cymbal crash at the end of the loop. If your loop is 32 bars then it could be pretty cool but if your loop is 1 bar then it just gets annoying.
@@aaronshortmusic Ok well that’s just as I thought, but I’m told the 10R DOES have a whole lot more drum patterns. Besides I’m intrigued by the prospect of drum fills, particularly at the end of a bar and when changing loops. My understanding is that the 10R can do this while the 500 can’t.
I assume it’ll need more ‘hardware’ to do this, so more space will be taken up on the pedalboard. Midi seems a better option that an FS3 footswitch, but my question would still have to be; just how ‘good’ is this drum machine and is it really any ‘better’ than the 500?
I’m sure there are lots of us who’d like to know more on this, perhaps you might want to do a more in depth review of the 10R in comparison with the 500 (and with particular regard to the drum machine section) before you flog it on eBay.
@@dennisloobman I don’t have the 10R anymore. Maybe there will be a firmware update that changes this or maybe I missed something. I may try one out again if I see there has been a firmware update.
@@aaronshortmusic ok, well I’ll have a look and see if I can find your old one on eBay ; )
Seriously tho, it just seems a bit strange that Boss would have built a superior drum machine into an inferior looper.
@@dennisloobman LOL I sold it when I got the 500. I love the 500.
Just sub'd .thanks for your opinion on this stuff.Cheers
Thank you and Happy New Year!
I bought the 500.you made it so easy to decide. Thanks
@@ReverendHellbilly Awesome!
Is it possible to use the editor to wipe out the CRASH cymbal hits from the RC-10R?
No. It annoys me too :-)
Yes actually you can, there are many videos in CZcams , i remove the constant crash, do a loop of 8 bars, if you do only one bar and repeat obviously you'll always have it, if you do longer you Can cancel it.
People easier get mad to have more more more upgrade upgrade when dont even know half of the previous pedal.
I have both and rc10r is still much better to me in live session
@@mahoganymarco9199 I tried that but even ever 8 bars was too much for me. I wish they would allow adjustment of each drum like the RC-500 has.
@@mahoganymarco9199 Can you link to one of the videos that show how to remove the CRASH cymbal from the RC-10R? I recently got an RC-5 and it has the CRASH cymbals switched off by default, and as far as I can see, there's no reason to turn them on. Good riddance. I'm using the RC-10R as a MIDI-synced slave to the RC-5 now. I might try to do my own MIDI drum loops for the RC-10R in the future.
@@yzimsx i must remember who was, will check again and send otherwise today will go through mine to remember what i do too
I think I will go for the rc-10r? If I can you peel back overdubs if you mess up on a part. Don`t want to have to redo whole song if I mess up one small part on last track. Thats the way my old looper works! Got to redo everything from begining! No way to just get rid of last part. I want it more for writing songs and playing worship songs in my own style on. I been doing this with a digitech looper using a drum machine, and first adding drum parts on my looper, and just playing the rhythm guitar, keyboard, bass parts on to it. But with the looper I have now, I can`t peel back and redo if I mess up, have to re-put drums,and everything from beginning! So , if I can`t peel back if I mess up that will probably be a deal breaker.
I want to be able write the song the way I want on the rc-10r , then save them on my other looper, that does have lots of storage room, and then I would play the finished song through my PA, to use for performing worship at my small church. I do need the intro`s, fills, and endings which is hard to program on my drum machine! Great video! Was a bit hesitant to buy the rc-10r because of the bad comments about it, but you have helped put me at ease! If I can peel back the tracks I put on, I am for sure buying this thing, because it seems perfect for my needs! Thank You!
Yes you can undo the last recording on both the RC-500 and the RC-10r. The RC-10r does have the drum intros and endings so you might prefer that one.
Yep, the drum fills and endings win it for me on the 10R
@@peterdadswell7998 Yeah they are nice but I like the features on the 500 as well.
@@aaronshortmusic most defiantly. Just imagine the 500 with the drum capacity of the 10R. That would be a winner for sure...
@@peterdadswell7998 Yeah that would be excellent.
Can't decide RC10r or 500. No longer play live, just at home trying to write songs/tracks, which would be more suitable?
That’s hard to say. It depends what you want from them. I prefer the 500 myself.
@@aaronshortmusic if you wanted to write a complete song, which would be more suitable? Not sure ive framed it any better. Lol
@@pbest75 I still think the 500.
@@aaronshortmusic that was my gut feeling, and now I own one 🤘
basically the 500 let's you name tracks and edit the drum parts. but there's far less drum parts, no fills, no drum part switching, and the 10r can have the same foot switching with a controller. £20
It’s just a different approach but it works better for me as a live tool. I like the 10r for a quick writing session.
10r is gimmick. Used for a week and swapped with rc500. Rc500 can be used professionally for live solo gig ;)
The best thing I like about the rc500 is the ability to pre determine loop lengths (by the bar)
Yeah yeah most will say I should work on my timing but it’s not a timing thing, I use my looper with a bunch of synths and samplers and it’s just a convenience thing where I can record my guitar part and forget about having to hit the end loop
I agree that is very convenient.
Could you please write some words on comparing the QUALITY of drums between RC-10R and RC-500? I have RC-500 and these sound amazing. Are the ones in RC-10R the same? Worse? Or better quality?
Rc10 better drums plus intro and outro
What model guitar is that?
It’s a Maton ‘Nashville’ cutaway.
I want to know if rc-5 and rc-500 Sync with the rc-10 by midi
Hi. I know that the RC-500 and the RC-10r can sync together and the RC-5 has MIDI so it should work. It would be best to contact Boss to confirm. I don’t want to give you the wrong information.
I enjoyed the video. The rc 10r is better as a drum machine, it has nearly 300 grooves, intros, outros, A and B transition and drum fills.
Rc500 has more looper options.
There is also rc5, which is more similar to rc500, but in small size and lower price.
How do you think this compares to the rc202 or rc505.
I haven’t tried those. I had the 600 which is great if you need the 6 loops but I still like the 500 for it’s compact size.
i just bought the RC500 and noticed an immediate problem. when i record a loop in either track and alter the tempo even slightly, it cause the loop soung to distort as a warble.
i've updated the system version to 1.02 and turned off all loop FX, still the same problem. i've contacted Boss and waiting for an answer. do i have a defective unit or is this a product design defect?
Hi. The tempo change algorithm is very simple. It’s best not to use it. Even many of the high end loopers struggle with this.
If only Boss had included the drum fill feature from the RC-10R, the RC-500 would be much more attractive for me.
It has drum fills and variations. Just no intro and outros.
@@aaronshortmusic Sorry my mistake. How do you activate a drum fill then?
@@kingstumble They are automatic when changing from variation A to B.
@@aaronshortmusic can you use a dummy first "empty" track as an intro fill and switch back directly to the next real verse track for instance ?
thank you for the presentation, in my opinion, edit the drum section is the key to buy rc-500, you can not have an orchestra in a loop station... the drumer in rc-10 is very annoying.. we are guitar players lol
RC-500 is a great looper. A used one for $275 is a good value. I don't like the new 600.
It really is a great looper! What do you not like about the 600?
The 10r has WAY more drum options. I feel like that should have been mentioned.
I don’t feel that it does. It also doesn’t have the ability to adjust the individual drum options or to remove the fills. That’s actually the main reason I moved to the RC-500.
@@aaronshortmusic Hi, can you do all of the RC-10R with the RC-500 ? I have watched a couple of video of the RC-10R and liked the dual part tracking with the variation drum patterns and fills/intro etc. but could you do all of that with the RC-500 ? Cheers,Paul
@@luapmartin It has fills and variations. It’s not exactly the same but I prefer it as a whole.
@@aaronshortmusic ok, thanks for replying, can you do the same kind of jams like in the video "BOSS RC10R - Jedi Level Looping for Guitarists!!" ? I really like this simple and powerful usage this unit has, but doubt that the 500 can get you Jamming as easy and quick as the 10R, What you think ?
@@aaronshortmusic The ‘feels’ is a lot different than the truth. The 10r has 280 preset rhythms, vs the rc500’s 56.
Both are good units, but putting out all the facts really does help in comparison videos versus personal bias.
If you like the RC-500, the RC-505 will blow your mind. These little foot pedals don't even compare.
I’m sure. Boss make a huge range of loopers from small to large. I would love to have the 505 but for this pedal board I was trying to keep it compact.
RC10R and RC500 now the same price!
In the USA the 500 is about $40 more.
nice looper but : NO Headphones out - not for me. Sorry Boss
I'll stick to the Aeros and BeatBuddy, I would not want a looper that you're only limited to the internal drum loops, you can't add to. Eventually you'll be saying, "I wish it had this or that beat!"
You can import loops into the RC10r and the RC-500. You can also import midi drum sections (intro, verse etc.) into the RC10r. The reason I went looking for another looper when I have the Aeros is that I need to be able to import loops and the Aeros cannot do that yet.
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Hi have gitarr effect
No they do not.
you can't have 2 different drum parts with serial looping on the 500
Exactly, people get lost literally in a half glass of water. The rc 10r for me that i have both is still much better, quick and easier. Just need to know fully the pedal and how ti get what you want
No but you have variations (hi hat switches to ride etc.) and that is fine for what I use it for.
The RC-10r is a cool pedal but for performance the RC-500 is much more practical for me.
The boss RC 505 looks even more appealing
I would love to try it!
I can't go software. I just can't stand dealing with latency. I cannot play with any latency. I just can't
The Boss pedals etc still have latency. Anything digital does.
why is every boss looper review on CZcams British?
It’s either a conspiracy or we all just want to be like Ed Sheeran lol!
Aaron do you have a sister called Amber?
I do not!
The fact that the RC10r has that stupid cymbal hit which can’t be turned off, is absolutely a reason to never buy it. I’m a HUGE BOOS/ROLAND fan. But that dumbass cymbal smack is just ridiculous. Least on the RC500 you can turn off each separate drum piece.
I agree. It’s a shame.
Quit telling us why you didn't do this and that and get down to business!!!
Hi how do you connect heaphones? Thanks
The 500 doesn’t support headphones.