Top 5 Plot Holes In Portal 2!
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You're really gonna point out plot holes in a game ABOUT holes?
+ChozoSR388 nice
Holy ****
+ChozoSR388 rekt
+ChozoSR388 Now you're thinking with Plotholes.
No, it's "Now, you're thinking with loopholes"
It's simple. The announcer only wants to do a core transfer when there's an available core in the room. GLaDOS was 80% corrupt and Wheatley became 100% corrupt... so it chose GLaDOS.
Kinda wrong. GLaDOS wasn't corrupt anymore, because all the effects from the past personality cores were gone (she probably had a lot, we've never seen Wheatley on her, but she says he was at one point) as she wasn't the Central Core anymore. She had probably had too many cores on her, plus the fact that Chell had blown her to pieces and then activated her again. Of course, what you said would also happen.
However, would the other corrupted cores really all be over 80%? Spacey is obviously broken, but fact core and intelligence core seemed pretty sane. But, I guess that Wheatley was still pretty sane at 100%, and the Announcer only suggests a transfer if the "corruption value" is high enough (or something like that).
@@launched_ we did see Wheatley on her tho
@@itzlynx670
When, exactly?
@@launched_ no no I was wrong. I thought that the cake recipe core was Wheatley but then I replayed that part and it's not him
@@itzlynx670
Ah, I see.
glados was corrupt because you incinerated her personality cores in portal one.
4 AIs out of 5 were missing after portal 1
(AIs include the 4 cores and Glados herself)
4/5 missing AIs equal 80% missing AIs, which equals 80% corruption in Glados
I can't argue against this because it makes perfect sense,but what the hell does Als mean?
(Also the only way I could argue with it is that when you're fighting Wheatley he gets 100% corrupt despite having only 3 cores plus himself which doesn't help argue against you)
SoulFoxie Artificial intelligence
I know what AI means,but with the way he wrote it made it seem like he was putting ALS and just making the A capitalized
She was corrupt because the scientists didn't know what they where doing
SCIENCE ISN'T ABOUT WHY ITS ABOUT WHY NOT
and Science-Fiction is about WHY YES!!
They were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they never stop to think whether or not they SHOULD!
Why flooding the whole laboratory with neuro toxine? - WHY NOT?!?
APERTURE'S MOTO: We do what whe must because we can
“I’M GONNA BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN......WITH LEMONS!”
This is my favorite Cave Johnson quote, I don’t know why
If you shoot the moon with an orange portal it'll still appear as blue
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+Isaih Bernardo i was gonna point that out
Well of course, it's too keep players from accidentally breaking the ending.
+Isaih Bernardo maby because of lighting? the moon looks blue yah know... or grey. ether way.
+Beth Fairfield He's saying that, in some cases, if you shoot the wrong portal, the game itself will fix it.
About the turrets: not all turrets were bad, just the new ones. He could've moved working turrets that were stationed somewhere else
Good point!
then why didn't wheatley put the old ones in his death trap, or glados upon confrontation, hmm?
To be frank, Glados could have fixed both of them. She didn't know either one was broken. Mostly because of how we do them back to back and confront her immediately.
I remember they said about stock also
He just forgot
GLaDoS is 80% corrupt because she gets the corruption by proximity, if you remember from the first game even though we disconnect her cores using rockets she still has some kind of connection until we throw the cores into the incinerator. Proximity theory is valid when wheatley appears and the corruption error occurs.
soo in short, not a plot hole.
Yeah, but when GLaDOS wakes up and picks up Wheatley he's practically next to her.
@@saturn21207 glados had yet to repair the facility at that point, so it probably was too broken to tell
Wheatley Corruption value: 80% NIC 25% IC (NIC being not in charge and IC being in charge)
Corrupt cores: 25% NIC N/A IC
A think a simpler solution is that Glados losing the 4 cores in the first game is what corrupted her. There were 5 cores total (including Glados herself) and Chell destroyed 80% of them.
(Technically she destroyed all of them, but of course Glados is later revived)
Glados is corrupt, She HAS been corrupt since and before portal 1, She was flooding the facility with neurotoxin and etc. As to why she is no longer corrupted is odd to me, Im guessing it was caroline. Also, Neither Atlas and P-bod or wheatly built the Neurotoxin generator, It was rebuilt by those nanobot guys Wheatly speaks of while you're trying to escape from glados.
Gsage for the neurotoxin thing, ever think about a backup tank? There had to be one.
@@glados4063 Why not use that then?
Caroline`s anger is what corrupted GLaDOS and when she deleted it, she stopped being corrupt
*you are only corrupt if you have all your cores taken away (making glades 80% corrupt) OR faulty cores are attached to you (making Wheatley 100%).
she didnt become less corrupt its just that she was less corrupt than wheatley causing them to transfer
The main chamber was always near the surface, at the end of the first game glados implodes then explodes through the roof and you land in a parking area. then at the start of the second game there is sunlight in the main chamber. if you look up you can see in the distance large portions of missing ceiling, with seemingly serious lack of control glados has outside the testing environment it unlikely these holes were fixed when she was turned back on.
Wow. You know your Portal :D
But that raises the question of WTF was that lift doing that took you to the surface in the end of Portal 2?!?! (Unless GLaDOS moved her lair deeper under the ground for some reason.)
maybe... the elevator... um .... took you to... a mountain! :D
I kinda believe that GLaDOS didn't take us to the real surface... Did you see the trailer for F-Stop? I just wonder if we're not put in some sort of fake environment ;__;
I once saw one of those custom chamber maps where you start out in that field... walk a little ways and then run into what seems to be an invisible wall... then it blinks and shuts off before they fall away... damn it glados... (though the elevator was open almost the entire time, and you emerge from a shed with an obvious roof, having a downward elevator would be difficult there.)
the elevator was probably in a different place, so glados moved there so she could send you up and also show you the turret song thing
One explanation for #3. You encountered a glitch, not a plot hole, that was most definitely a glitch because it assumed you were going to attempt to press the stalemate button. It is a timed sequence and not something that happens as a plot hole.
No one is in control after Wheatley goes into space also, presumably making it so there needs to be no stalemate button usage.
Exactly, when Weatley is disconnected from the body of the controlling AI, the stalemate resolved itself, allowing a core transfer to the central mainframe.
The first one is wrong.
If the portal surface moves on the X or Y axis (assuming it’s facing the Z) then it can move.
However,
If at any time it moves on the Z axis (still assuming), then the portal will collapse.
Same goes for any axis.
Omega Ultra makes sense, but I mean why wouldn't it be able to move on the z axis tho
@@ch.illmatic u responded to a year old comment
@@Luka2000_ Wait... responding to an old comment isn't okay? Damn, I'm responding to an eight month old comment
@@tatertot1052 Fuck
@@tatertot1052then how big of a crime am I commiting
You clearly don’t know the definition of “plot hole”
Number 1 was BS. GLaDOS was corrupted 80% by the Central AI Control body's evil power, the same reason Wheatley literally got *corrupt* with power and went evil. He got 25% corrupt, because he had been in the central AI for, idk, one hour? GLaDOS was there for possibly 50000+ years. And let's not forget that we legitly destroyed GLaDOS in Portal. Let's ALSO not forget that GLaDOS is ALSO a core, just not spherical! When she got ejected from the central AI, her personality changed because she heard her own consciousness and was not controled by a circuit which *corrupted* the core that was plugged in with power. And that's exactly what happened in the last scene of the game, Wheatley apologizing to Chell, and being sorry, just because he got un-corrupted. The Central AI is DESIGNED to *corrupt* the core that's plugged in, either intentionally or just a glitch. This is also the reason GLaDOS let you go in the end. She KNEW that she would eventually turn evil again, so she thought "Oh I will let Chell go before I get corrupt again and want to kill her".
Maybe when she said "Goodbye, Caroline." *deletes Caroline* does that mean she knows that Caroline is the cause of corruption?
Pete The Parker :D no man
Caroline was a good person
the mainframe itself corrupts every core that is connected
Oh.
Qwarti he means when she was a pile of mangled garbage on the ground. and glados was turned on in 1997 (or close to that)
MisterMistyEye technically I prefer that wheatley was 0% corrupt... (cuz let's face it. space core is more than twice as crazy as adventure sphere or fact core...)
Also, you are unaware how the core replacement works. It detects any core that is less corrupt than the current one. If the main core is 100% corrupt, since an 80% corrupted core is less than 100% she could transfer.
Good point
also, remember how glados was only corrupted right after killing you? like, not even giving you a chance. if THAT is not going against her code, then i don't know what does. (the reason why wheatley is less corrupt is because he still is a total moron, which is his purpose)
also i think exploding and being soaked in water would break anything mechanical
JJ thirteen, I beg to differ. Glados killed everyone (except Ratman) with neurotoxin when she first came to power, my guess as to why she is "Corrupt" is either the announcer thought Glados was broken because the turrets and toxin generators were broken or the announcer mistook Wheatly for Glados. If the game works on the second option, that's pretty much a bigger plot hole than the original.
i always thought it was due to us removing her cores in portal 1 o_o
i remember the moment i shot the moon like it was today (from the perspective of writing this it really was today).
I shot it just for it, didnt think it'd actually work
oh same i was like "haha whatif i shoot the moon. do i get a secret ending or something haha"
Isn't that everyone?
00: after wheatley was put into glados, his handles were removed, but when he gets sucked into space, he magically gets his handles back for obvious plot reasons.
That's a continuity error not plothole.
I think it might have been a connection point
Hahahaha, transport Neurotoxin in manufacturing pipes... ;)
That seems like something apperture would do xD
Maniacal Mage Probably an ingredient of the combustible lemons
Maniacal Mage save money with less pipes
Aaron McLean Either way, they’re still bankrupt! XD
except for the fact that YOU TRAVELED IN THE SAME PIPES!
the reason you have 5 minutes in the battle with Wheatley is because he's just started the Neurotoxin, he's got to let the Neurotoxin pollute the air enough to kill you, the neurotoxin would already be filled enough to kill you if it were in those pipes
@@DisKorruptd not really, it's a constantly moving transport system, the air is redirected in a very specific path.
3:39 because after wheatley got disconnected there was no longer a stalemate. The button wasn't the actual stalemate button either
5:05 there are still normal turrets in storage that got past the detector before you got there, just glados used the newer ones which were the defective ones
7:14 the cores from the first game were corrupt
:)
Actually, the cores from the first game weren't corrupt cores. Their was a morality core, which was made to give GLaDOS moral thoughts, but it was attached after the enrichment center was flooded, as she said. Then their is the cake core, which is designed to make a recipe for cake, and an anger core, which is designed to give emotions. I don't remember the other one, but all of them were designed to be regular cores, and they all fur filled their designs.
I got it. You tore the cores off GlaDOS in the first game, which severely altered her personality. Because she had no cores to keep aspects of her personality, she went corrupt *without them.* But by the time Wheatley came along, the once non corrupt cores have been turned corrupt by being disconnected from GlaDOS for such a long time.
you incinerated GLaDOS' morality cores
And since there are 4 cores attached to glados, there are 5 "cores" in all. That's why the computer said "core corruption at 80%. Replacement core necessary." because the computer recognized that glados needs the 4 other cores attached, making her corrupt by 80% when they went missing. 4/5 missing cores=80% "corruption". Cool stuff.
Brian Billman than isn't, as one core, wheatley the same?
1 seems to be because GLaDOS is not the same GLaDOS in the first game. When you removed the cores that kept GLaDOS in check at the end of the first game, the system registered her as 'corrupt' as her voice changed from the cold calculator to a sexy sadist.
Wheatley, however, isn't corrupt. He was doing exactly what he was programmed to do: be a moron. When you attached things that went against that directive, the system registered him as corrupt.
As for the end of Portal 2, I suppose the system doesn't really care if the substitute core is corrupt.
...
Okay, I don't really have a good explanation for that.
'Cause at the end of Portal 2 Wheatley is more corrupt than GLaDOS
i think its because wheatly literally detached from the central unit so they automatically put the other core in
Sexy sadist 😳
/j
What about ACTUAL data corruption? Glados could have found a backup of a previous "save state". Kinda like how if you unplug a ps4 without properly turning it off it will try to go through its memory for data corruption. the same couldve happened to her... you forcibly "powered her off" if you will and due to the fact that this is both very far and somehow behind our tech it could have taken another reboot of her core to check for corruption.
glados's memory banks are what is corrupt. She didn't remember her life as Caroline. The data was there but corrupt. When she restores the data during the game she sees that it is of no value to her. Thus she deletes it at the end. It wasn't vital data. The data was just corrupt and taking up space, mixed and mangled with other data making her corrupt.
The button thing is a glitch in the script, the developers assumed that you would press the button nearly immediately so they just made it so it goes off on it's own.
Um pretty sure the reason why GLaDOS was corrupt is because you kinda kill her in the first game. GLaDOS says nothing but reasons why she hates you for this in the first chapter of the second game.
Bonnie Multiverse
that could also be a reason, both are possibilities.
Well, in the first game, Glados already had the corruption cores intentionally attached to her untill you remove them. Perhaps Aperature considered this "un-corrupt" because it was desired. Once you remove the cores, Glados is considered "corrupt" because of this. As for the end, of Portal 2, having been done once, Glados probably re-programed the conditions for "corruption".
The button isn't supposed to be pressed. It's literally in the dialogue. It's booby trapped because Wheatley doesn't want to give up control. It doesn't need to be pressed because Wheatley is no longer in control when he is disconnected and in space.
LoveMuffinMedia
actually we really aren't given any clue as to how glados got back in control, it happens off screen, I don't know if I would call that a plot-hole tho, maybe a deus-ex-machina.
as a potato she shouldn't have been ABLE to install herself without someone there.
"How can wheatley use neurotoxin in the fight? we destroyed the generator!"
You dont think that they store it somewhere? if the generator generates it and its not used where does it go? and there must be an extra supply of neurotoxin.
Then why didn't GLaDOS just use that neurotoxin?
@@tgapcharlie because glados i couldn't use because of wheatley.
@@tgapcharlie I assume she just naturally used the new neurotoxin/turrets
3:02 with that being said, I got a droid inventor kit for my brother, and we hooked it up to a potato battery. we needed 9 potatoes to even get it to move slowly.
perhaps there's something special about that potato if it can power such a massive ai as glados.
In Portal 2 an announcer says "All Aperture Science personality constructs will remain functional in apocalyptic, low power environments of as few as 1.1 volts." It still might take like 2 potatoes but they are made to run at low power. Plus some things are apparently not working as she says that she can't lie to you because she doesn't have the energy.
If Aperture science can link two places in space, surely they can hike their energy efficiency up to unreasonable levels too
James Tisajokt
Not to mention, not even the Combine knows how to use portal/teleportation technology like Aperture does. If Aperture knows how to do that, i'm pretty sure they can make an AI that functions on potato energy
@@giannigiovful the combine can only teleport between worlds, no in them (i think) and is why we dont see human resistance in half life get immediately shut down. if the combine could teleport freely, a resistance would likely never form.
The potato was grown by Chell, what's what's special about it.
The stalemate button one seems more like a bug than a plothole, you are supposed to press the button
My two favorite plot holes in portal:
2. The orange one
1. The Blue one
+Noah & Toad i like the orange one better
+Potato Are Kewl Heretic!
My favourite plot device is the cake
That's fucking funny :D
#2 how old is that potato? Maybe it's gotten to a point where it can't go splat.
+EthanRDoesMC I mean #4
how old is that potato... Do they grow potatoes in Aperture? If not... it might be as old as Chell. Yeah I know... Chell was out for 999.... something. I would like to see a potato such old.
The bird broke the potatoes fall
The bird probably would have died from the impact then. Potatoes weigh almost as much as birds do, and adding on Glados' circuitry, it would be deadly if it landed on a bird.
" Potatoes weigh almost as much as birds do" is probably my favourite statement from this year.
In the first game you tore some the cores that were actually helping GLaDO S like the morality core for example and them in a freaking incinerator! I could see how she could be 80% corrupt. I don't really think the anger core was doing anything good at all.
The anger core prevented her from saving test subjects from the incinerator, or for feeling bad about the dead test subjects.
@@chefboiarby304 i think the anger core gives more emotions than just anger but ok
Im guessing that Wheatley being ripped nearly completely out of the body in the moon scene is enough for the core replacement to happen automatically
And his handles were connection points
Okay that last one is not a plot hole! She spends the entire first half of the game being crazy for revenge, she goes crazy over thinking the many ways to kill Chell painfully! That's NOT what she was programmed to feel. She wasn't even programmed to feel anything at all to begin with.
she even states that scientists put cores on her to control her behaver
Cores are not meant to corrupt the main unit!!! we put *corrupted* cores on *Wheatly* to spark a core transfer
If a unit gets corrupted, it has a core placed on it to control it and de-corrupt it, otherwise it is swapped with another unit that is not corrupted, and the now corrupted cores are discarded.
Lestrange another reason why the last one is not a plot hole because in the first game you take away the things that are keeping her from coroption and attached to her and that only went into protocol when they saw weetly as a replacement
You guys are entirely missing the point
She was programmed to feel
She was originally going to be a two-for-one goal
One: creating a sentient AI that can continue testing and being a sort of administrator for Aperture
Two: Putting Caroline in a sentient AI to keep her and by extension the company alive
So she was still supposed to resemble Caroline
But also enticed/controlled to test
She (for some reason) had an odd desire to kill humans via "Flooding the entire facility with deadly neurotoxin"
And they tried to put cores on her to alter her and make her not have an odd desire to do the aforementioned killing humans
Like attaching a USB drive with an active virus into a computer to give you control over said computer
Najanah is right on the regard of corrupt and non-corrupt cores
Well, "uncorrupted" glados would be the one with the morality core, and hasn't she destroyed that?
I think that glados is corrupt because the system is used to having 3 other cores on it, and since glados has no cores, she is corrupt relative to expectation. Wheatly became corrupt at the end because they were not the correct cores.
As a Portal 2 speedrunner I can confirm that only one of these are an actual plot hole
4:20 GLaDos's "area" is literally on the surface
Another plothole: you can shoot the wrong portal at the moon and it still triggers the ending-sequence
actually the portals sometimes switch around if it feels like you pressed the wrong button or so i am hearing from other commenters
Jazzy Playz its true, they change your portals somentimes so you dont die
Yeah I noticed that
Well they place both portals beneath Wheatley so at the end it doesn't actually matter which one you do.
The game developers did that several times throughout the game in quick situations so you don’t mess up and die. They do it on your way to “The Part where he kills you”. They talk about it in the commentary for the game.
What about the fact that regardless of what portal you shoot at the moon, it will be the correct one?
I think they did that to decrease frustration after some tests and they also remove your ability to control your camera because people kept looking away before the portal reached the moon (2.5 seconds or something for light to reach the moon from earth so you have to wait 5 seconds total before the portal appears to you).
well, it's a portal through space so you don't have to add the other 2.5 secs anyways, because it's already there.
that did bug me a little
but regardless that bit was EPIC
Yeah, but chell only relizes it when she sees it, so 5 secs
Maybe the portal has to send some kind of information (some frequency or so traveling at lightspeed) back to the device to open the portal like "yup i am placed and this surface is portal-usable so it is safe to go through it."
Number 3 is not a plot hole, it's a glitch. And a hole didn't open to the surface, you just took an elevator up to the top layer and you could see the moon through a hole made by Wheatley fucking up the facility. And the turret solution is obvious. GLaDOS didn't know the turrets broke, because she isn't show the information, but Wheatley knew the turrets were fucked because he helped you break them. And GLaDOS is corrupted because you destroyed her in the previous game, she's functional and working but is corrupted from damage in the first game.
The GLaDOS Chamber changes physically, there's now railings, gel, and Core Rails in the room... THERE'S NO WAY YOU COULD DO THAT STUFF WITH THE PANELS!
Robots
This video is just nitpicking, you don't consider there could be a BACKUP neurotoxin? that it would be possible that Wheatley found that after he gained power?
If there was a backup, GLaDOS would have used it against you.
GLaDOS may not have known
Adain Skys wheatly is an idiot so finding it would be HIGHLY unlikely if Glados couldn't
popkornkid Who says Glados didn't know about it? or that there wasn't something about a backup in the information Wheatly found? I mean he did say something about learning new stuff, it is possible.
Havilands Gamer Channel true I just doubt it
Surely there are spare tanks of neurotoxin...
...that GLaDOS didn't know about? Ha. Self rebuttal.
Sopper that was what i was thinking the whole time
glados might have been fixing it herself during the wheatly to glados core transfer.
Not Andres Bonifaco well, she expected to have a huge amount of neurotoxin
They did just destroy the GENERATOR not the storage
also, portals only disappear when they are on moving "ready to use for testing" panels, but the ones in the neorotoxin chamber is not a "ready to use" one, allowing portals to move on it
5: not the platforms are moving, your room does moving (remember the impossible space?)
4: bird caught her
3.5: moving facility
3: short circuit while the explosion which triggers the transfer
2. The turrets got repaired by P-body and Atlas while wheatly himself got the limited back-up neurotoxin
1.5: Wheatly ended up in a dropper, got dropped and glados soked him up.
1: maybe the corruption of a core is determined by the danger of the facility and thanks for re-awakening glados true personality through the underground/Cave Johnson arc, you where able to fix the corruption of glados personality, since it's been stated, that the facility itself corrupts the personality cores and wheatly and glados also count as such.
bird caught her...
makes sense
the bird probably would’ve been squashed to death by a potato going Mach 5.
number 4 is bullshit because birds don't go after potatoes!
number 4 is not, when you are a bird living in a salt mine, food is food.
Varient54 They are needed to be boiled or roasted dryly....
5 They can't change orientation, but they can change position.
4 The bird caught her.
3.5 Giant portal, obviously.
1 Likely the same oddity that has caused her voice to change since her resurrection is read by the computer as corruption.
5 In many other scenes, though, a portal changes position without changing orientation, but still disappears. As was said, the 'destroy moving portals' script was specifically disabled there.
4 and didn't die/lose its legs?
the bird caught a potato going at terminal velocity.............yeah thats not happening so that explanation is wrong my riend
Considering Earth is moving all the time, the problem is the word "moving" isn't absolutely defined, portals on a moving platform could work, but we don't know how.
In portal 1 test chamber 10 the portals to help you gain momentum move forward, removing any portal you have on it. Not at an angle, actually moving it forward.
AJ Universe I think the corruption is because she was shut down and could not program the facility because it was destroyed
As explained in Portal's dev commentary, Aperture simply does not care what's in the vacuum tubes because of all the stuff there is in them.
In case of implosion,
Look directly at implosion.
i cant be the only one who accidentally turned around right after completing the puzzle, right?
5:24 When you finally reach “Modern Aperture” Wheatly says to one of the turret cubes “We’ve been here for 12 hours!” So there was at least 12 hours or more for Wheatly to repair the damage him and Chell caused. Also, just because the working turrets were no longer being thrown out, that doesn’t mean there wasn’t any defective turrets still in those maze-like pipes.
About the "Wheatley's Non-Defective Turrets" thing, my theory is that he just used some turrets that were already in the facility, not ones fresh off the production line.
And for the Neurotoxin, perhaps there was some pre-produced in storage?
With the neurotoxin, when you cut the pipes from the generator to the storage area, it releases all of the air pressure, making it impossible to extract back into a test chamber (or a lair)
Maybe it wasn't actually neurotoxin, just some chemicals he slapped together and coloured green that he's _calling_ neurotoxin.
That sounds like something Wheatly would do.
But he's still a moron, he would lack the knowledge on how to make the concoctions actually deadly to chell. he even CALLS it neurotoxin.
Who's to say he does?
Randomly slapping chemicals together, colouring them green, and saying they're neurotoxin doesn't mean he knows how to carefully mix them to make them deadly.
For all we know, Aperture doesn't just have neurotoxin as a deadly gas, and Wheatley just took another deadly gas and added some green colouring to it, and he's saying it's neurotoxin because he thinks that name's cool.
*WHEATLEY:* Your looking for a plot that has holes! No, not bullet holes...
also 3.5: you wake up 12 HOURS AFTER the incident. that is why Glados was worried
2:20 simple, the bird catches her mid-air
GLaDOS is corrupt because in the first game, she had those personality cores on her. I guess the corruption transferred to the second game.
Umm...okay???
+Michael Green How do you know the cores from Portal 1 were corrupt? As far as I can find in the lore, those cores were doing exactly what they were programmed for. Not all cores are corrupted.
+Crow Rising she's corrupt because she wants you to do well. even after killing her and defying her at every turn you're still the only one she has left. she's not unbiased in her review of your tests because she cares for you, hence the heart crushing songs at the end of either game
DeafDefiler What does that have to do with the cores from Portal 1?
Actually not true.. Those cores where "perfected", and where to regulate her emotions
For #1, maybe she was corrupt because you took off all those perfectly good spheres in the original Portal. In fact when you beat her in the first game, she talks all weird and acts very corrupt and stuff.
When Wheatley comes into the chamber the announcement system announces said corruption because there is now a core ready in the room.
After old Aperture, GlaDOS sort of reconnected with Caroline and maybe that acted like the personatly spheres did in Portal. The only problem is that she deleted Caroline, or did she?
The third plot hole has a mechanical explanation:
If there is no central core(because Wheatley was thrown in space) The Facility's Automatic Core Replacement AI will put in charge the first core module that will be put in the receptical(in this case GLaDOS)
About #1. But was she originally programmed to be a "monster"? Was she programmed to test objects and wasn't built to be evil? I always thought that "GLaDOS" isn't corrupt, the mainframe is. That's why, as soon as she is out of the mainframe and becomes POTaTOS, she suddenly isn't so evil, and why Wheatley, who then is plugged in, _does_ become evil. The "mainframe" is 80% corrupt. Not GLaDOS. Not Wheatley. The mainframe. Obviously, while you're underground, Wheatley manages to partially fix it, so it's only about, what. 25%? Then, you plug corrupt cores into the mainframe to take it from 25% corrupt, to 50%, to 75%, and finally to 100%.
Well, in GLaDOS's case, it's debatable, as her personality toward Chell becomes less cold and cynical when she rediscovers her origin as Caroline in Old Aperture.
Alright, as a programmer I can explain the corruption pretty well, in the first Portal the GLaDOS bossfight consists of blowing cores off of her and destroying them, there is likely an actual process to attaching and removing the cores safely, these cores had a constant data stream running through them, when you yanked them you interrupted that data flow cutting put chunks of code, or in other words, corrupting the data flow. At the end of Portal 2 when you attach the corrupt cores to Wheatley you are damaging the data flow, and you bring his corruption up to 100%, GLaDOS was able to transfer because she was STILL only 80% corrupt, and would do less damage to the total system than a 100% rate of data flow damage that Wheatley was causing.
also it only mentions it because it senses that there is a suitable replacement in the area
+Pharaoh Nyarlathotep That's actually a very good point. Personally I would think it would have to do with the fact that from the moment GLaDOS wakes up again in Portal 2, her primairy motive is revenge. Just about every single thing she says until the core transfer scene, is her directly talking about revenge. Now of course she is still running tests, but it's clear that her reason for doing so has gone from purely running tests and nothing more, to sadistic revenge through sadistic tests. Of course her primary directive is testing. When her emotions go against that, she effectively becomes corrupt.
+Pharaoh Nyarlathotep Why does this not have more upvotes?
+Benjamin Meijer But her main directive is still to test, it doesn't matter how or why, the only thing that matters is her testing according to her main directive (and maintaining the overall integrity and operation of the facility of course.) Knowing Aperture, they probably didn't think of putting in any safeguards that would stop her from killing every one, or tried to but failed.
+Default Echo The backstory shows that they did; the additional cores were supposed to give GLaDOS a more balanced mind but she rejected them all/ didn't work efficiently with them attached. Then she chose a moment one day when none of them were attached and released neurotoxin into the entire facility.
"Greetings everyone, my name is Syy"
I'm just the o'hare delivery guy...
you sir have made my day
3:30 During the moon sequence, Glados isn't in her body yet. Wheatley is loose from the machine when Chell grabs him, and then Glados uses the claw from earlier to disconnect him and puts herself in.
The moving portals thing seriously bothered me on my first playthrough. I was stuck at that part for several minutes. It wasn't occurring to me to even try to put portals on those moving platforms, because I knew from Portal 1 and Portal 2 up to that point that it shouldn't be possible (though admittedly, maybe the bigger reason I didn't try was because I thought I was looking through glass for some reason). But whenever I see people solve it quickly, and then not question it at all, it makes me wonder if they had actually been paying attention to the game's rules beforehand.
These aren't plotholes just minor oversights
duck That's a plothole.
3:40
my response: "Warning Central Facility Core has been disconnected, alternate core detected, Engaging Core transfer"
That line all though not heard sums up my point
Plothole : In the shoot the moon sequence wheatly has his handles back in one second even though his handles were not on him when he was in glados's body.
Also, GLaDOS deletes Caroline then, in the song at the end, she says “now little Caroline is on here too”
It only said the corruption thing because someone was in the main core room. She was corrupted because Wheatley had been put into her a long time ago, which she explains in the fall. So your last plothole wasn't valid.
Wow. But then how is wheatley not considered corrupted and we have to go put cores onto him?
The Box Queen [Sen]
Because he himself is supposed to be dumb. He's programmed to have a low intelligence level. GLaDOS, on the other hand was not meant to be dumb.
The Box Queen [Sen]
Let's consider it like this,
If you're a dumb person, you aren't necessarily 'insane', but if you're a smart person with that same dumb person following you around constantly making dumb remarks, you'll go insane.
XD
I think it's because GLaDOS is a potato core and the system wants basic core.
Ondra Strejček
That does not make any sense.
convenience is not a plot hole.
I've found the Half-Life games to be even heavier with the "convenience" of paths laid before the player. Like, how convenient that an explosion blew a hole in the wall, exposing a hidden passage leading me exactly where I need to go...
I personally see core corruption as the system’s analysis of a core being fundamentally unable to do their requisite function properly. Glados doesn’t have a specified function. However, to me, it’s probably to oversee the Aperture workers (including testers) safely and maintain the status quo (Test). Seeing as she disregards one of these completely and after the escape is more interested in just killing Chell, that could be the reason she’s seen as corrupt to the system itself.
To number 1: GLaDOS is still corrupt from the first game but not in her testing thing you mentioned. When Wheatley enters the core chamber a core scnner sees him a not as corrupt as GLaDOS and suggests a core transfer. At the end he is more corrupt then her (100% is more then 80%) so the announcer suggests another one.
Thanks for pointing out 100% is more than 80%
TheYortle There are some idiots not understanding this :D
Personally I always figured that since it happened the moment Wheatley came in, that the announcer detected Wheatley as corrupt because it doesn't make sense that the announcer would let a corrupt core transfer to another corrupt core (even if 80% is less than 100%, corrupt is still corrupt) and if you think Wheatley isn't corrupt at that time, then just think to the part where in the beginning glados crushed him. He had to upload into a spare core (I believe that's what the wiki said) and the spare core could be corrupt.
There's a simple answer to #2.
Storage.
+★ ShadowBolt ★ If he had a neurotoxin storage, then that means GLaDOS could have used it during you "attack".
+Quirky Kitsune Shit they really like potato's there in appature science.
+cookie koekje And lemons.
TacoCatVids LEMON GRANADES
+cookie koekje Potatoes are very useful. Didn't you pay attention in science at school? :^)
What if enough files were corrupt in glodos’ minor files to be considered “80%”corrupt and when she was put into the potato the minor files were all deleted
My theory is that after the destruction of the stalemate button, the announcer disables Wheatley’s access to the facility, and GLaDOS was put back in charge.
Don't forget that Wheatley was ripped from the mainframe, and after he flew away in space, GLaDOS was the only core detected in the room.
I can explain all these plot holes:
5: It's a game
4: It's a game
3: It's a game
3.5: It's a game
2: It's a game
1: It's a game
Actually the potato part I think it's the bird that got her.
is the plot a game? you not making a whole lot of sense.
a game has a plot, and a plot can have plot holes.
i got a answer to life: It's a game
Nickingoo No way in hell a bird could catch a potato falling at terminal velocity, not happening.
In response to all these comments
It's a game
But wait! There is still one big plot hole... Is the cake real?
Kinda.
+Kareem Mahmassani no, yeah the cake is real you see it in portal 1 lmao
😒
+Kareem Mahmassani * ERROR * brain cant handle the question.
Shutting down mainframe
Hey Fact Core. Is the cake a lie? Fact Core: Well... I... uh... DTZZZZ ERROR! PROCESSOR FAILURE! CANNOT COMPREHEND... DTZZZzzzzzz.
For the last one, GLaDOS is corrupt relative to the first game where she still had a Mercy core to stop her from flooding the facility with neurotoxin. After the emptying of the Neurotoxin supply, a emergency system would most likely pick up on this and call her corrupt
3. The button must be activated if the core is concentrated on keeping in his role, so when Wheatley is sent in space it is no longer concentrated so the button is not needed
2. GlaDOS is corrupted because it no longer tries to test so announcer thinks it's corrupted, it's even confirmed by her quote "Me? Corrupted?"
For #1)
I guess Aperture keeps a kill count or something and the "Announcer" chooses a less corrupt core to transfer rather than a clean core.
Glados was probably corrupt from Portal 1. She technically shouldn't have survived in the first place. But she did, then the data from the cores removed in Portal 1 was lost, corrupting the data that IS Glados.
Maybe.
+Jacob G. That's what I was thinking too. Also, I don't think being destroyed is the best thing for being non-corrupt. Possibly, when GLaDOS is a potato, the corrupted data begins fixing itself. I mean, this is Aperture we are talking about. It's possible they designed some code in GLaDOS to fix corrupted data.
At the same time, a scientist stored all of his weapons on his back.
Another plot hole is that sometimes the game changes around your portals. So I put a blue portal down to get to the core transfer resolution button or whatever it is called, and then once I'm blown back into the room the portal is orange? and it moved? And it doesn't even matter what portal you shoot at the moon. It's still blue.
is the moon not a huge moving surface?
The entire universe is moving...
+Arthur lee
good point doesn't that mean the portals can't even be placed
+Arthur lee yes but its also the giant thing the conversion gel is made from...its one big portal conductor
portals move at light speed
+Donald Trump i think he meant the portal shouldve got cancelled out cause the moon is moving... valve accounted for light speed between the time taken to see the flicker and the magical portal sound it made
.... For why GLaDOS was corrupt.. It's because she didn't realize that Chell and Wheately did behind the scenes. (Which also explains why she didn't fix the turrets and why she didn't know about the nurotoxing going offline) so when she goes to kill Chell with turrets the announcer goes and says, "Ok.. Little odd", but then she fails at the neurotoxin, because a solid object ends up in there(Wheately), and then the announcer sees GLaDOS as corrupt..
My plot hole in the button pressing is not exactly the button, but how she goes back to her old body when she became a potato and her old body was tossed into those arm things and presumably discarded
“How is glados 80 percent corrupt???”
Well idk in the last game we did rip out her personality cores.
She's 80% corrupt, because she has only 1 core of the original 5. 4/5 = 80%. When she had all the cores GLADOS did what she was originally intended to do- test. But without the cores she has more freedom and can do more than what GLADOS was originally intended to do, hence the announcer saw GLADOS as corrupt because she isn't acting normally. Just like how the other cores don't do what they are intended to do. And 3.5 isn't even a plot hole, it's just a bullshit convenience.
+97GoldDust I like this explanation. Also an explanation why the announcer suggests GLaDOS could do a core replacement with Wheatley is because Wheatley is more corrupt than GLaDOS. (80% is less corrupt than 100%)
potatos aren't so soft to smash from falling. just as with apples.
Zeno Popo yeah, maybe from 10 meters. A 2 minute long drop though? Constantly accelerating? I doubt it.
Eddiemans I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not? Do you agree with what I said?
Eddiemans Agreed
And plus, there were boarded up sections to further de-plot hole this plot hole.
btw. when something is falling freerly, it doesent speed up constantly. it gains a constant speed at some point.
7:20 Like other commentors have said, the cores that you destroy in Portal 1 were GLaDOS's personality. Destroying those corrupted her, not to mention the fact that she has ALWAYS been corrupt (bring you daughter to work day, anyone?).
3:17 I thought the first time I played it GladOS somehow pressed it.
for the plot hole about the neurotoxin, potatoes can produce neurotoxin
WAt
I like how you didn't even mention that when on GLaDOS's body he doesn't have the handles, but the moment he gets sucked into space, the handles are back on him for Chell to conveniently grab on to.
Is that so? I never noticed. I'll have to go check for myself the next time I'm in game.
Syy Yeah it seems that no one has noticed it as I haven't heard anyone mention it in any video.
Hey yeah. Hadn't even thought of that
+TEM Productions Maybe they went inside of him while in GLaDOS's body because they weren't necessary
omega memelord No, because we would have seen them when Wheatley opened up his core shell at certain parts in GLaDOS's body.
Glados is considered corrupt because she was destroyed in the first game and therefore in a much worse situation and state than she’s meant to be in. Then in the end she’s had time spent in the potato battery, a new, less damaged form, and therefore no longer corrupt. Also I think the bird clearly caught glados on the fall down since we see it fly off with her
this man really took an unplanned bug sequence and counted it as a plothole
glados was corrupt because you took the cores from her in p1
whitley wasn't built with the cores in mind, so adding them created conflict with his code
GLaDOS' original core body needed extra personality cores to function properly. Wheatley IS a personality core like that. So his systems weren't meant to take on extra cores like that. When PotatOS got a new core body it was obviously able to run her system without extra cores
5. Yeah, that's just game helping us, really, just like the the final sequence where you can shoot at the moon with whichever portal color and it's still gonna work. Nothing to explain this logically.
4. I thought the bird caught her. Which of course creates other problems, like "how did the bird survive catching anything that just fell down 4km?" but yeah.
3. Isn't it impossible to press the button either way, even if you try? No transfer is taking place as Chell is lying on the ground, after all. My guess is that she ended up quite literally ripping Wheatley out of the mainframe, at which point the system simply had to put GLaDOS back in as the only core available.
3.5. Yeah, it's convenient, innit? But not absolutely impossible and it looks supercool so who cares!
2. When you confront GLaDOS and stall a little before pressing the button, Wheatley says: "Sorry to interject again, but if you do NOT push the button the deadly neurotoxin emitters will come back online, at which point she will most likely fill you to brimming with neurotoxin." This can either mean that GLaDOS was already on fixing the things they sabotaged, or that these were bound to fix themselves automatically.
1. GLaDOS was corrupted because you violently ripped the cores out of her during the first game. 20% per core - 80% corrupted. She isn't any less corrupted by the end of the game, though. Wheatley became 25% corrupted after getting crushed, then got additional 25% of corruption with every crap core Chell attached to him. Eventually he became 100% corrupt, which is more than GLaDOS' 80%. The system detects the LEAST corrupted core in the room to trigger the transfer.
That's the way I think these make sense but I agree not everything is explained properly.
What's with your numbering?
+Fantasy Connect woops, messed it up. Fixed now.
+Randall Turnip good on ya ;)
+Randall Turnip It's not explained because it's computers, and computer logics often do things people baffle about how that happened, especially in a facility run by a computer AI, who knows how it operates anymore.
+qwerty222999 what?
Another issue with the moon is that portals don't travel that fast, it would not instantly reach the moon.
The pit is quite deep. 4000 Meters = 13123.3596 Feet = 4374.4532 Yards = 2.48548477 Miles.
The nuerotoxin one is easy to explain. The machine that was destroyed was only the generator and it's entirely possible that there's some storage for it elsewhere hence why such large amounts can be released very quickly.
Then why didn't glados make use of that?
Because the nuerotoxin that was newer would be more effective.
Surely she could in the meantime while you where faffing around trying to press a button. She could pump up the neurotoxing.
This video is completely wrong. And I'm here to explain why
(Spoilers ahead)
(Duh)
5.So I feel like everyone questioned this one, And I questioned this one too. But it's very simple. The platform isn't moving (Well technically) the management rail or whatever is carrying it is moving, Not the platform. Now as far as I know (and I've completed portal one and 2 {Portal 2 5 times}) that whenever the when portal moves it breaks(Etc) mechanic happens the platform moves out of its first area. This time it didn't it moved forward or backwards.
4.Okay this was very hard to figure out but again,It's kinda simple. First point, Think a hard,stale,potato+mechanical parts. I don't think potaos(Glados+potato) will get squashed. Also you don't know what happened while the screen went black. Now the only main port that disapproves this theory is how fast they were going,It looked like they were going about 30,40,50 mph which probably would destroy a robot potato. So this probably is wrong,But it's the only thing I could come up with.
3.Easy to explain. The button didn't cause the core transfer. Weathly getting disconnected did. The announcer ain't dumb he could do solve simple problems,like 2+2 but in this cause it is a core transfer. Once weathly got disconnected from the body the announcer probably preformed the core transfer automatically. As a solution to 2+2 but in this case a core transfer
3.5.First yes you are correct,Weathly moved it up probably because there's more air up there. And Glados moved it down so there won't be a hole in her office. Now the moon, It might be because of the portal. I wouldn't be surprise if the inter dimensional portal gun affected the moon and kinda guided the moon. After all the portals are made out of moon rocks. Maybe the mother is looking for it's babies (Lol)
2.There was probably a backup supply of good turrets. The program probably made it so the newest turrets were dropped first. To avoid hackers. And when weathly figured that out he probably changed the program. Now ugh.... There also could've been a backup neurotoxin generator. And Glados probably made it for incidents like what happened with chell
1.Lets think. When someone destroys a AI. CoMPLETELY. Would it be corrupt. Yes it certainly would. Would a fine AI like weathly be corrupt. No it wouldn't
1.5.Now I know there wasn't a 1.5 but I couldn't find the how did weathly get into a neurotoxin generator so I made it 1.5. Weathly was in there because it didn't register him as a item for a test. This is highly unlikely but what if there is a scanner of some sort that scans if the item is a test item or neurotoxin. And it knew that weathly wasn't a test item so it registered he was neurotoxin and it sent him through the neurotoxin pumps
ɪᴏᴏᴠʟᴇ ɪᴏᴏvʟ-ᴍᴏᴏsᴇ Yeah.... Fair point. It can be possible though
With 3.5, if you're like me and you pay more attention to the scenery than the game itself, you'll notice that the area you fight Wheatley is not the same place you meet GLaDOS after the fight. Where you meet GLaDOS, however, is the same place you put Wheatley in her body. When you and GLaDOS (or PotatOS lol) get thrown into the hole, you don't resurface anywhere near that room, and going through ~10 test chambers won't bring you THAT far. Don't mention "Oh, but how did Wheatley travel through rooms", because if GLaDOS can go from the room you awaken her in to the room where the first Core Transfer happens, surely Wheatley can go from there to the room where you fight him. Also, if you pay attention to the screens he's on in Chapter 8, you'll notice he quite frequently moves away from the screen, never to be seen until the next test.
There is quite a lot of water where you fall at the bottom of the elevator shaft so that might explain 4
1.5 maybe Weathly was too toxic ahah
Lost Alias Help with the 4th: I think it's very possible that the crow caught GlaDOS before She hit the ground. The crow has eggs, she's probably malnutritioned and would be very eager to get her claws on something nutritious like a potato (hungry birds do some crazy shit, I know from personal experience). Chell opens her eyes to see GLaDOS held by the crow who was perched on a pipe or metal girder way above her. I think this heavily implies that the AI never hit the ground in the first place.
I think you missed the most obvious plot hole: HOW DID WHEATLEY COME BACK TO LIFE AFTER GLADOS CRUSHED HIM?
Wheatley never died, he was just badly damaged.
One plot hole you didn't mention is why in the overgrown Aperture section of the game, why are the cubes, buttons, doors etc... don't have their Portal 1 redesigns? Like you could say they retconned it and Portal 1 now has the moving panels, advanced cubes and doors but at the end of the game when Chell gets her original Companion cube its in the Portal 1 design, here what I would have done:
Everything would use its Portal 1 designs up until maybe when the Aerial Faith plate is introduced(since in that test chamber you can see, GLaDOS replacing the dirty panels to clean new ones.).
If you mute the audio, you would never think that this guy would have such a buttery voice.
People forget about the first Portal game, and how it ended, that's what corrupted glados to 80% and she confused nurotoxin with products, (there's one part of evidence for the corruption,) She also couldn't do anything because she was busy repairing herself. think of it like this, end portal one Core stability at 5%, Portal 2 Core stability at 20%, and rising afterward. Other people have attemepted to solve other plot holes in the comments I just didn't see this explanation anywhere in them
AnorakTrend exactly what i wrote
Complaining about the Moon being there while the whole scene is the most epic thing ever put in a game is kinda funny.
glados probably made backup reserves of neurotoxin incase the main generator broke, but didnt get the chance to use it because by then we turned her into a potato and wheatley probably just found it