@shanearnold1999 Nope, I can only change the title, description etc. if I were to re-edit the short, I'd have to reupload it too as a separate video (also this is my third short ever, I didn't know what I was doing lol)
I really can't understand how an Agency could own a voice of a person. Like they maybe own the distribute rights to her songs prior to her quitting, but her voice and right to sing... The music industry is just full of exploitation and greedy people
The issue was Kesha, as at the time of making the episode she was still in a legal battle with her old record label. Even though they had a separate person sing this song, since Kesha helped write it Spindlehorse was still at risk of getting sued by the record label. The episode was officially released a day after the lawsuit was over and Kesha was free of them 😊
Not sure if it was true or not, but I heard a rumor there was another version that possibly Kesha, but also due to legal issues they did it with another singer to protect it. I mean even if it's true or not regardless the girl they got is amazing. A lot of people didn't even realize at first it wasn't kesha
With the newest episode, with Fizz quitting and telling Mammon to fuck off, I’d like to think Kesha had a similar experience in tasting her freedom as Fizz did.
@@redfoxtheposer8808 She did. What she didn’t know, is that her label would abuse her. She was fine with the terms when she signed, or at least, she could accept those terms, since it meant becoming a more well-known artist. But the label reared its ugly head, showed its true colours, and abused her for years.
Well, contracts are binding, and it was listed in such a contract. But it's possible for people like Kesha to nullify the contract. The only issue is that it's the agency giving her money. If she nulls the contract, then she doesn't get the money her music makes.
and then on Rochelle's tiktok account, she had to explain multiple times that she was the one singing, and people in the comments were gaslighting her saying "yeah no, nice try tho" even after others told them to look at the credits, they refused to do so
What’s funny is that the singer was Rochelle diamanté not Kesha it’s crazy how she sounds so similar. But honestly great singer. Hope she makes it far.
I can only imagine how frustrating it was for Kesha. Frustrating for everyone but especially her. Here she is trying to gain freedom and independence from her label but because of those issues she couldn’t sing an original song for a show she was cast in. I can only imagine how embarrassing it was to have to do this whole back and forth only to tell the writers “hey, against my own will I can’t do it.”
If I remember correctly the only fucking reason they got sued. It was because of the record label producer people. They basically sued them Cause I think one of them again, record label people. Got mad that Kesha quit or something And took ownership of the song. I don't know.❓️
i dont understand ur comment at all but i gotta say that it was probably bc Vivziepop made an animation with kesha song and something balbla happened so it got taken down once or twice and stuff more than a few years ago
No. The label didn't own the song. Kesha was in a massive legal scuffle to get out of her contract (because her producer was an asshole) but because she was still technically under contract the label COULD have claimed they had rights to the song Vivzie's team were never sued over this matter, they held back the episode to avoid that
If I had to guess, this was the legal issue. Kesha has a contract with her agency that gives them 100% ownership/exclusive rights to her music. During the process of creating this episode, this agency either wouldn’t allow Kesha to preform or requested a lot of money to do so. This back and forth of trying to find some sort of comprise probably took awhile, hence the delays. This would also explain why the Die Young video was removed as well. If they worked out a deal where Kesha technically wouldn’t preform, her Agency wouldn’t like the fact that “their” music was on the same CZcams channel. It’s kinda like those people who clickbait to try and get people to look at the rest of their channel, if that makes sense. They don’t want other people profiting/benefiting of Kesha’s music and while it might have been fine to have a fan made animation, it kinda crosses that boundary when the actual celebrity works in one of your projects. I hope this makes sense.
It’s more than that. Keisha already knew she wouldn’t be allowed to sing because her record label didn’t give the OK. Hence animators comprised by having a Keisha soundalike to sing, but Keisha herself would just voice the character. What made it a legal issue was that Keisha actually helped write the song, effectively making it her agency’s property. Hence why they delayed until she got out of her contract.
Kesha was supposedly having trouble at the time. They had to wait until everything was resolved. They also had to find a singer that sounded like her as a work around so nobody (show or Kesha) got in trouble. (As far as I heard)
If Kesha had sung the song it would have been struck in copy write laws and what not as the record company basically gets rights to anything she sings. At one point in the song you can hear where the original song comes threw for a moment. Rochelle did a great job on the song but I still would love to one day hear Kesha's version of it as well.
They didn't get Kesha out of her legal contact in enough time, so they hired another artist to do the song itself. However there were still issues with who owned her written songs, which is what delayed the episode. When she won her case owning all of her songs they decided to air the episode as is instead of re recording the song with her voice
Its because kesha's singing voice is still copy writed and owned by the company that got her her albums published... itnwas sung by her first... but the legal team threatened lawsuit... so they had to re record it after sadly losing the suit
Stuff like this happens a lot in media, not to mention originally I knew Kesha was in this, and when queen bee starts singing I could tell it wasn't her. But I know she ghost writes for a ton of people, including K- pop artist. She legit writes for everyone almost its insane how talented she is when it comes to writing. even though im not like a huge fan of hers. that being said, as a comparison to this, If anyone has seeing the show paradise city or the movie American satan. That was made by Sumerian records, then you will know Andy the vocalist for BVB is like the front man in the movie and show but another vocalist named Remington from a band called palaye royal does all the music in the show, because of legal issues, and now there just kind of stuck with it.
Kesha was supposed to sing, but she wasn’t allowed to because of her record label contract. She had already originally recorded it, but again, because of the contract, they had to hire someone else to do the singing. 😅
Yea Kesha was fucked over in a lot of her contracts meaning her singing voice isn't legally hers. She wanted to sing the song she wrote but it was just legally impossible
Kesha helped write the song, but since she was still in the process of separating from her current record deal holder (due to sexual harassment from her agent -- it's a big mess, you can read up on it independently if you're that interested), if Vivziepop and company used her rendition of it, the record company could still claim copyright infringement and have the episode taken down. That was the legal issue that had the episode delayed for so long. Having a separate singer perform the song circumvented the legal issues that would follow if Kesha's version of the song was used. Copyright law, am I right? I think there's a Mark Twain quote about it.
It wasn’t a “might have been the reason,” that’s for sure. It was confirmed as the reason as the studio Ke$ha works for legally owns her singing voice in contract (in simpler terms) and Spindlehorse would have had to pay ridiculous royalties for that episode. Their loophole was having Ke$ha voice the character (as it *was* something she wanted to do) and someone else that sounds similar to her sing it.
The legal issues are asking because of her die young video from years ago, which is now made private and was made private bought a little while before the episode went live that was illegal if you problems
Or maybe it was because Kesha was in the middle of a lawsuit that had just cleared in, more or less, Kesha's favor, and Vivzie wouldn't be sued into oblivion.
i think they all but confirmed it was because of the legal fight between kesha and her label. and not the not anything between kesha and the cast/crew of helluvaboss.
Kesha did not like her agency, but trapped under contract, she knew the money for any music she made would be locked to the agency. She held off until the contract's end
Reminds me of the time Michael Jackson voiced on the Simpsons. They got a soundalike for the singing because MJ’s producers wanted to double MJ’s check for it. They couldn’t afford it at the time but MJ really wanted to do it. So they let him.
I really don't get this bullshit over the voice actors, the singing VAs, and now Kesha didn't even get to sing a song she's more than perfectly capable of singing? Man, VAs get treated so badly.
I have a theory that Kesha originally sang the song but for whatever "legal issue" it wasn't in the final take. So they had to find a different person to sing the song in her place. I'm sure it was one of Vivz mind blowing dream goals to have Kesha portray a character and sing a song in any of her animations
Its also after season 1 episode 7 - “ FINALE “ but before season 2 so realistically its just a bonus episode Also it isnt credited in the descripton of any of the other episodes
The legal issue was cause of Kesha. Even though her legal battle with her former label was resolved in like 2017 ish, I'm pretty sure she isn't allowed to sing at all cause the record label she was with still owns rights to her song style and voice. If she starts singing sounding like Kesha again, she could be faced with yet ANOTHER legal battle with her former employer.
Yes, I know the audio is in one ear only, I messed up while editing, newer videos have their audio fixed :)
Good thing I only have one right earbud since I lost my left side a couple days ago 😂
Can't be re-edited and re-released or updated? Legitimate question as I never tried creating videos and editing them
@shanearnold1999 Nope, I can only change the title, description etc. if I were to re-edit the short, I'd have to reupload it too as a separate video (also this is my third short ever, I didn't know what I was doing lol)
I have my headphones permanently in Mono anyway because I rarely wear both XD
Someone who's only using one ear bud: 😂
Pretty sure Kesha WAS the legal issue. She wanted to be released from her contract and the agency said "lolnobitch, ur ours forever."
Wouldn’t that make her agency the issue?
@@redhotchikapepr8978 Mostly yes, at the time they still owned the rights to Kesha and her voice.
I really can't understand how an Agency could own a voice of a person. Like they maybe own the distribute rights to her songs prior to her quitting, but her voice and right to sing... The music industry is just full of exploitation and greedy people
@@Catilena1890thats sum ursula type shi
@@Catilena1890That’s not right tho so I don’t think Kesha was the issue
The issue was Kesha, as at the time of making the episode she was still in a legal battle with her old record label. Even though they had a separate person sing this song, since Kesha helped write it Spindlehorse was still at risk of getting sued by the record label. The episode was officially released a day after the lawsuit was over and Kesha was free of them 😊
Thank you for the context, I thought it had something to do with that battle but I thought it had ended more than a year ago
Good for her!!!
That's lovely
Not sure if it was true or not, but I heard a rumor there was another version that possibly Kesha, but also due to legal issues they did it with another singer to protect it. I mean even if it's true or not regardless the girl they got is amazing. A lot of people didn't even realize at first it wasn't kesha
The record label sucked. Glad she's free!
Kesha could voice and write but legally couldn't sing because of bs with her label she was trying to get away from.
Not even write thats why it took so long, if they released a song she worked on writing they woulda got sued
With the newest episode, with Fizz quitting and telling Mammon to fuck off, I’d like to think Kesha had a similar experience in tasting her freedom as Fizz did.
I mean, that's why you read your contracts before you sign them
@@redfoxtheposer8808
She did. What she didn’t know, is that her label would abuse her. She was fine with the terms when she signed, or at least, she could accept those terms, since it meant becoming a more well-known artist. But the label reared its ugly head, showed its true colours, and abused her for years.
@AndyHerrmann so there was a clause that she read that gave them the ability to abuse her and she signed it anyway?
There were legal issues over whether Kesha could SING or not?! I hate our legal system sometimes. 😑
@vanovasmith9586 so in a way, she not screwed herself over, and therefore screwed us over?
Well, contracts are binding, and it was listed in such a contract. But it's possible for people like Kesha to nullify the contract. The only issue is that it's the agency giving her money. If she nulls the contract, then she doesn't get the money her music makes.
And her I think manager sa’d her
@@DiamondBatToonson no she can't sing unless the agency tells her to. she really screwed us over 😐😐😐 how tf did she screw you over?
Ikr this is why we don't sign shit unless we read and think
Or that Kesha whole contract lawsuit ended a lil bit b4 the episode aired
literally 2 days before lol
It was released BECAUSE the Kesha lawsuit was settled. They couldn't release it until they knew whether or not they could put that song in the episod.
But how long did we wait for s1e8 after season 2 was already in motion?
IP law in this country is ridiculous. How is it a record company can prevent you from performing your own song forever? THat's insane.
Druids and poets of old wouldn't understand that's for sure
I guess her parents and record basically took advantage of her.
My left ear enjoyed this video
Yep... I know... I messed up when editing, it's all good in newer shorts :)
@Haboq haha it’s all good mate
Good to know i wasn't the only one- 😂
i thought my mic was broken
jokes on you, my left earbud is charging right now so my right ear could hear this.
and then on Rochelle's tiktok account, she had to explain multiple times that she was the one singing, and people in the comments were gaslighting her saying "yeah no, nice try tho" even after others told them to look at the credits, they refused to do so
Poor girl 🙁
Not believing isn’t “gaslighting” lmao
@@alexbennet4195 It is if the proof is staring you in the face. Nice try bub.
What’s funny is that the singer was Rochelle diamanté not Kesha it’s crazy how she sounds so similar. But honestly great singer. Hope she makes it far.
Kesha is free now from RCA. She will release an album this year and will probably have a lot more engagements than before ❤
Well that's a sticky situation(get it? Because of honey?...I'll stop now)
😂
Stuck in your teeth
@@elisabethsablan3717like cotton candy
Sweet as apple pie
ily
I can only imagine how frustrating it was for Kesha. Frustrating for everyone but especially her. Here she is trying to gain freedom and independence from her label but because of those issues she couldn’t sing an original song for a show she was cast in. I can only imagine how embarrassing it was to have to do this whole back and forth only to tell the writers “hey, against my own will I can’t do it.”
my left ear is really enjoying this short man
Kesha’s people wouldn’t let her do it so they had to make do with a sound alike ☹️ Kesha is always being controlled by someone!
If I remember correctly the only fucking reason they got sued.
It was because of the record label producer people. They basically sued them Cause I think one of them again, record label people.
Got mad that Kesha quit or something And took ownership of the song. I don't know.❓️
i dont understand ur comment at all but i gotta say that it was probably bc Vivziepop made an animation with kesha song and something balbla happened so it got taken down once or twice and stuff more than a few years ago
@@animkotna that's what I meant
@@Spade948 okey
No. The label didn't own the song. Kesha was in a massive legal scuffle to get out of her contract (because her producer was an asshole) but because she was still technically under contract the label COULD have claimed they had rights to the song
Vivzie's team were never sued over this matter, they held back the episode to avoid that
@Giggy0100 Thank you for helping me get my facts straight. I knew I was missing something in there. I just couldn't figure out how to put it.
This goes hard on right ear 🗣️‼️
I knew it and I was arguing with tons of people that she didn't sing it and they were saying she was even though she didn't 🥲
Now you can prove them wrong by simply showing them the credits :)
the reason the episode was delayed was because if kesha's studio saw she wrote the song they would sue spindlehorse
If I had to guess, this was the legal issue.
Kesha has a contract with her agency that gives them 100% ownership/exclusive rights to her music. During the process of creating this episode, this agency either wouldn’t allow Kesha to preform or requested a lot of money to do so. This back and forth of trying to find some sort of comprise probably took awhile, hence the delays. This would also explain why the Die Young video was removed as well. If they worked out a deal where Kesha technically wouldn’t preform, her Agency wouldn’t like the fact that “their” music was on the same CZcams channel. It’s kinda like those people who clickbait to try and get people to look at the rest of their channel, if that makes sense. They don’t want other people profiting/benefiting of Kesha’s music and while it might have been fine to have a fan made animation, it kinda crosses that boundary when the actual celebrity works in one of your projects. I hope this makes sense.
It’s more than that. Keisha already knew she wouldn’t be allowed to sing because her record label didn’t give the OK. Hence animators comprised by having a Keisha soundalike to sing, but Keisha herself would just voice the character.
What made it a legal issue was that Keisha actually helped write the song, effectively making it her agency’s property. Hence why they delayed until she got out of her contract.
🤓
Kesha was supposedly having trouble at the time. They had to wait until everything was resolved. They also had to find a singer that sounded like her as a work around so nobody (show or Kesha) got in trouble. (As far as I heard)
Kesha was the legal issue she had a contract so while she ended it the episode couldn't go out
Not a sweet as apple pie moment
But she sounds so much like her!! :0
If Kesha had sung the song it would have been struck in copy write laws and what not as the record company basically gets rights to anything she sings. At one point in the song you can hear where the original song comes threw for a moment. Rochelle did a great job on the song but I still would love to one day hear Kesha's version of it as well.
I had wireless headphones on and it sounded like it was echoing in my room and i was so scared that my wireless headphones weren't connected 😭
Well she sounded amazing
This is why you don't get famous celebrities to do voiceover work for you without Ironclad paperwork saying that you get free use of the work
After seeing some of Vivziepop's old animations, I'm sure working with Kesha was her dream
The fact that you sound exactly like Adam makes this video funnier
They didn't get Kesha out of her legal contact in enough time, so they hired another artist to do the song itself.
However there were still issues with who owned her written songs, which is what delayed the episode. When she won her case owning all of her songs they decided to air the episode as is instead of re recording the song with her voice
Yes we already knew dude
New fans may not have known this
I didnt jackass
@@magikalieyea i learned just now
I didnt-
Its because kesha's singing voice is still copy writed and owned by the company that got her her albums published... itnwas sung by her first... but the legal team threatened lawsuit... so they had to re record it after sadly losing the suit
Stuff like this happens a lot in media, not to mention originally I knew Kesha was in this, and when queen bee starts singing I could tell it wasn't her. But I know she ghost writes for a ton of people, including K- pop artist. She legit writes for everyone almost its insane how talented she is when it comes to writing. even though im not like a huge fan of hers.
that being said, as a comparison to this, If anyone has seeing the show paradise city or the movie American satan. That was made by Sumerian records, then you will know Andy the vocalist for BVB is like the front man in the movie and show but another vocalist named Remington from a band called palaye royal does all the music in the show, because of legal issues, and now there just kind of stuck with it.
Alan Becker and Krinkels: legal issues ? Lol
Kesha was supposed to sing, but she wasn’t allowed to because of her record label contract. She had already originally recorded it, but again, because of the contract, they had to hire someone else to do the singing. 😅
I love your mushroom sweater
Yea Kesha was fucked over in a lot of her contracts meaning her singing voice isn't legally hers. She wanted to sing the song she wrote but it was just legally impossible
Seriously? Her singing is what made me suspect it was Kesha voicing her in the first place
"reality can often be disappointing"
Gingy’s girlfriend and her zombie voice haunted by nightmares for weeks when I was a little kid
Queen bee your so beautiful
there IS a version with KESHA singing it though, but forever under NDA
I love how....vibing Quagsire is in gen 5. He's just jammimg in that sprite isnt he?
I like how Beezlebub is some sort of hound, but the actual lore of Beezlebub is "Lord of the Flies" "Prince of one of the Deadly Sins"
my left ear enjoyed this video :3
My left ear loved this (and yes there is audio going through both sides, just the left is way more noticeable)
Makes sense. In the famous Simpsons’ episode where Michael Jackson showed up, he legally couldn’t sing the song his character sang in the end.
Thats whyyy there's a leagal issue
I liked him whispering only in my left ear very nice.
Kesha helped write the song, but since she was still in the process of separating from her current record deal holder (due to sexual harassment from her agent -- it's a big mess, you can read up on it independently if you're that interested), if Vivziepop and company used her rendition of it, the record company could still claim copyright infringement and have the episode taken down. That was the legal issue that had the episode delayed for so long.
Having a separate singer perform the song circumvented the legal issues that would follow if Kesha's version of the song was used.
Copyright law, am I right? I think there's a Mark Twain quote about it.
i really enjoyed hearing this video in one ear
My left ear loves this
"Queen Bee-bubuladu" got me rolling
I like how when i take out the left earpod i js hear the music
thank you for your perfect analysis in my left ear only
It wasn’t a “might have been the reason,” that’s for sure. It was confirmed as the reason as the studio Ke$ha works for legally owns her singing voice in contract (in simpler terms) and Spindlehorse would have had to pay ridiculous royalties for that episode. Their loophole was having Ke$ha voice the character (as it *was* something she wanted to do) and someone else that sounds similar to her sing it.
The legal issues are asking because of her die young video from years ago, which is now made private and was made private bought a little while before the episode went live that was illegal if you problems
ik what happened with the delay, there was a whole ass court order because kesha originally sung it or sum
my left ear loved this short
It's funny because I tried to guess who voiced Bee and by the voice in the song I guessed it was Kesha. Ironically she did voice her, but not the song
Yes, I did know that, since I can read end-credits.
Sucks that Kesha couldn’t sing it. But the lady who did sing killed it tbh! I think both would have done amazing
my left ear loved this
Her record label wouldn't let her sing it that's basically it.
Or maybe it was because Kesha was in the middle of a lawsuit that had just cleared in, more or less, Kesha's favor, and Vivzie wouldn't be sued into oblivion.
Huh. So that's why she bears a striking resemblance to the creature from "Die Young".
Wait I know her for that song, I love that!
Ive been concerningly immune to gore and guts since watching cupcakes
THIS WAS SO SICK WOW
my left ear loved learning about this
Is it just me with headphones only hearing it on one side? 😭
And the other isn’t dead bc it works on other vids
My right ear loving this one
my left ear enjoyed this short
My right ear felt left out.
My left ear really liked this
Its funny, me being a kesha fan, when i first saw that episode i knew the lyrics were definitely hers lol but rochelle sounds so much like her though
Tonight is the night for you for that audio.
Bro, why can I only hear you in my left ear. I feel like I’m the only one using headphones.
My left ear really liked that
i think they all but confirmed it was because of the legal fight between kesha and her label. and not the not anything between kesha and the cast/crew of helluvaboss.
Kesha did not like her agency, but trapped under contract, she knew the money for any music she made would be locked to the agency. She held off until the contract's end
This has got to be the closest we are right now to legally owning someone in modern times
Whoaaa one eared audiooo coooool
My left ear enjoyed this
I honestly don't get the point of hiring a singer if you don't even have them sing. It's David Bowie in the Atlantis Squarepantis all over again.
Alot of the lyrics line up with Yungblud- cotton candy aswell
Reminds me of the time Michael Jackson voiced on the Simpsons. They got a soundalike for the singing because MJ’s producers wanted to double MJ’s check for it. They couldn’t afford it at the time but MJ really wanted to do it. So they let him.
my body says kesha voices one part in the song where she throws a hellhound in the nectar/honey pool, but my brain says she didn’t
I really don't get this bullshit over the voice actors, the singing VAs, and now Kesha didn't even get to sing a song she's more than perfectly capable of singing? Man, VAs get treated so badly.
My left ear likes this information.
I have a theory that Kesha originally sang the song but for whatever "legal issue" it wasn't in the final take. So they had to find a different person to sing the song in her place. I'm sure it was one of Vivz mind blowing dream goals to have Kesha portray a character and sing a song in any of her animations
Its also after season 1 episode 7 - “ FINALE “ but before season 2 so realistically its just a bonus episode
Also it isnt credited in the descripton of any of the other episodes
Well, Rochelle did an anazing job actually sounding like Kesha
The legal issue was cause of Kesha. Even though her legal battle with her former label was resolved in like 2017 ish, I'm pretty sure she isn't allowed to sing at all cause the record label she was with still owns rights to her song style and voice.
If she starts singing sounding like Kesha again, she could be faced with yet ANOTHER legal battle with her former employer.
They didn't let Kesha sing it because her "Voice" is trademarked by her old company
Dude this is so late
The episode was delayed because Kesha couldn’t sing the song or even write it, her direct involvement was the pushback reason.
Late? If you checked the date this was posted you'd notice I uploaded this in June lol
She did sing the song but they had to redo it with the other singer.
When you don't own your own voice
Record labels are just slavery with extra steps.
Omfg THEY GOT KESHA?!! I LOVE BRANDON RODGERS SO MUCHHHHH
Proudly wrote the lyrics to the most vacuous song in the entire show.