Making the LYDIAN scale sound UGLY? (ft. Shubh Saran, Justice Cow, Music is Win and Aimee Nolte)
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- Making the Lydian scale sound...ugly ft. Music is Win, Aimee Nolte, Shubh Saran and Justice Cow! Go to www.audible.com/adamneely or text 'adamneely' to 500 500 to get your free 30 day trial!
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Justice Cow
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Aimee Nolte
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Music is Win
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0:00 Introduction
0:45 Shubh Saran
3:59 Justice Cow
7:06 Aimee Nolte
10:46 Music is Win
14:11 Adam Neely
MIXTAPE (the songs without the commentary)
• LYDIAN Mixtape (ft. Sh...
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Go check out everybody's channels! Justice Cow released hers as a standalone song here:
czcams.com/video/FvFhLUEvg68/video.html
YEAH
This song was an absolute jam, I love it
i’m loving this little series you’re doing man.
It deserves to be a standalone song!
I want locrian sound beautifull
jokes on you adam, I can make any scale sound bad
you should try it on minecraft jukeboxes
It's my life in a comment. Golden find 😂💙
try the equipentatonic scale
Came here to post this.
Wasnt expecting you here but ok
The Lydian mode remains undefeated, none of those were ugly. It just takes dissonance sooooo well.
Right? I mean, some of them could be called weird, but the question is: Is it because of the scale? They would become beautiful in other scales?
@@OzielAlvesCavalcante Dissonance can be very beautiful regardless. Shostokovich's paino trio number 2 is a great example, I feel both like I'm about to burst and can't stop headbanging every time I listen to it. The guitarist tim henson of Polyphia also uses a ton of diminished chords and tritones in recent recordings (not so much earlier stuff).
Absolutely. Loved every one.
idk, aimee's song literally made me sick to my stomach but ig everyone interprets this stuff differently lmao
Some parts of Adam's track genuinely hurt to listen to, so I'd say he got close. But I guess, what does ugly mean to you?
How to make Lydian sound ugly:
- take a Lydian scale
- play the Lydian scale starting from its fourth degree
- Locrian mode, the stage is all yours
Ha! I'm stealing that one
yeah.. I was going looking in the comments for anyone else who knows they are just playing either Locrian or Phrygian lol... you can tell ( for people who don't know) because you have the root, it sounds minor, and the next tone up is a halfstep lol.
@@emmafissinger7422 cheaters 😂
This was literally my first thought
@@emmafissinger7422 yeah, that's a thing most get wrong in this kind of videos. I can't do it better obviously, but it's really interesting when a piece is firmly centered in the mode it should and it sounds as what Adam asked
Shubh accidentally made a prog masterpiece. I dig it.
Yeah! It does sound quite proggy
Nice to finally see some prog metal representation on this channel haha
It was pretty awesome, really.
hell yeah. reminds me of deftones!!!
He's doing his best Between the Buried and Me impression in this bit
I need more Tylenol. Mission accomplished, friends. Thanks Adam.
I got a headache as well haha
Your track sounds like The Residents =) pretty cool!
Yours gave me good brain chemicals for some reason. It was like the song was the tylenol.
the first part of the piece is earily pretty
I liked it but if I had to listen to that long enough to compose and record it, yeah I'd need a lot of painkillers too. Well done
How is this video not called using the “uglydian” scale?!
Nice
This should be the pinned comment.
These need to be released as an EP titled "Uglydian"!!!!!!
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Beat me to it
Amiee: The girl from Ipanema is crawling on the ceiling
The musical imagery in this comment section is spot on.
You fucking genius, how dare you be so correct with this judgement
*shudders*
Shubh: So I tried to make this sound bad
Me: Joke's on you I'm into that shit
Yeah - it was really something, wasn't it!
@@BusinessEnglishSuccess Yeah, it's fit right into DOOM
mathcore but djenty.
Me too, I really liked it
Sounds like a Dream Theatre album
Shubh failed miserably, wrote a perfectly enjoyable TOOL song. Loser, 10/10.
The only context I've seen where a 10/10 is criticism
It’s possible to write a TOOL song that’s enjoyable?
@@IOxyrinchus Yes. Source: most of them
@@IOxyrinchus yeah, most of them.
@@pencil364 if by that you mean most of their songs are boring, I agree
Adam: Hey guys can you play Lydian stuff that sounds ugly?
Shubh: ya np, i will devastate u with a metal masterpiece
JusticeCow: of course, i will write a disgusting pop anthem
Aimee: sure thing, i will rob you of all your happiness forever
Me: i can offer u one ugly face and some mildly ugly riffs
lol I love your humility man, the playing on some of your latest videos is insane though!
dude you literally wrote a plini song, it was awesome
Why'd u block me on Twitter lol
did anyone else get animals as leaders vibes for Tyler??
Only me who thought of Polyphia?
Aimee Nolte's piece is like something you'd find on a dark corner of the internet that would make the subject of one of those creepy CZcams documentaries.
It's a deep web track.
Nexpo should use it as the theme music!
Everyone else: ugly lydian
Aimee: binaural beats to make your head ache and scare your subconscious.
Nailed it. Like literally a nail being pounded into my temple.
I kind of felt.. really comfortable with hers?
i dont wanna be like "haha teletubbies scary lol" but that genuinely made me scared
it is nighttime and i am about to go to sleep man this is not good
me too it was so unsettling oh my god
the rest of them were bangers actually
@@gl4ssmooshr00m omfg seriously, the video of teletubbies on top of it just…. creeped me out really hard, I literally had to look away because it was making me so uncomfortable
Adam in 2020: Lo-Fi microtones
Adam in 2021: Psychedelic Lydian
Adam Neelys friends: "It was like chewing on broken glass."
Also Adam Neelys friends: "This has Adam Neely written all over it."
Justice Cow's descriptions are the best
"it's like sirens... in the future"
right? i love that girl. ben is a lucky guy.
"here's djent, here's 100 gecs, here's a piece of music that gave me actual physical pain..."
Wonderful!
Adam: "It's difficult to sound bad in lydian"
My songwriting: that's *cute*
I am beginning to think "bad" is my favorite genre.
This comment.
Justice Cow's track made me think of some of the more difficult bits of some Sophie tracks.
I was like joke's on you. This is my shit.
@@BS-bv5sh I'm curious for more intense music like this. It's uncomfortable in a way I'm kind of enjoying slowly probing. What's Sophie like? I know I could search some up right now but I feel like I'd really benefit from a bit of description from another human to help me sorta be able to prepare myself lol
@@ItsAsparageese electronic music with strange noises combined in challenging ways that are also danceable.
She, unfortunately, died in an accident last Saturday (Jan 30 2021)
@@BS-bv5sh Aww, that's super sad to hear. The music sounds fantastic, I look forward to listening to it and I'll be cheersing her in the afterlife. Thanks so much for the info
If Lydian is a dream, Justice Cow’s was a nightmare
I’ve got mild Tourette’s so I rarely have a “tic attack” but something in Aimee Nolte’s song really caused me to go off. I guess that means she did a good job!!!
Binaural beats are weird man!
from now on, instead of asking "does it djent?" we should ask "does it Shubh Saran?"
lol
He is a djentleman
Aimee's Teletubby trip feels like having the worst dream that could still be considered a dream and not a nightmare.
Edit: came back to this a year later, this still true, but worse. That definitely woke up something in another dimension and now that thing is coming for me. It may never reach me but it's definitely trying.
Spot on description. It just exactly rides that eerie ethereal line
Liminal space vibes
Aimee Nolte: Unironically giving people panic attacks with Lydian.
Boss move.
The Justice Cow one is freaking brilliant.
Correction: all of them are freaking brilliant.
YES!!!
I think jc was the worst one and I skip it every time
@@BusinessZeus haha wasn't that the point?
Adam Neely: _hears a slightly distorted guitar_
Adam: _”Djent 😎”_
Is that a italicized emolj lmaooo
how the hell did you italicize an emoji?!
_😯_
woah it works!
what te fuck italicized emoji lmao
@@enzo-oz5mw include it in between the underscores i guess
_like this 😳😳_
"I felt like destroying something beautiful" -Fight Club and Aimee, Adam, Shubh, Music is Win, and I
I especially loved yours
@@elliottroses Aww thank you!!
That was horrible in the best way possible!
I loved 4:15 😂
But seriously yours was awesome
Loved the images you painted while analysing the music!
Shubh's wasn't ugly, it was like space-themed prog rock. Sounded like something by Radiohead or Muse. Loved it.
Don't know how much I hear Radiohead on it but yeah I think it's very cool
You know that scene from The Social Network where the Winklevoss twins are competing in that kayak race and it's them rowing dramatically in slow motion to Trent Reznor's industrial version of "In The Hall of The Mountain King?" Shub's piece would totally work for that scene. Particularly the last bit when it all kicks into gear so you've got that drunken 4/4 beat with a stutter.
That justice cow one was legitimately terrifying. Like wow, that was a BAD trip
Music is Win: "oh god was that beautifully dissonant? i hope not"
Aimee: "and the dissonance was beautiful"
task failed
task failed successfully.
Holy shit, Justice Cow's one was intense! Literally brought on more chills and uncomfortable feelings than any song has in a long time. Absolutely fantastic
Exactly, this is my first time to almost faint just because of a song...
Totally stood completely opposite of what I thought when I first heard/saw her...
Half cried because of it
To me, the most unsettling aspect of it's the formants. It sounds so much like a strained, desperate scream!
“You got the Steve Vai and you got the Primus, you got the Steve Vaimus”
My new favorite Adam Neely Quote
The Justice Cow one made me very uncomfortable, like if I was in a nightmare. Quite amazing to be honest
It felt so surreal
When listening to this, my dog started speaking to me and his head started spinning like a globe. Adam I’m scared pls help pls
Haha!
I really appreciate how everyone used Lydian as a jumping off point for a bunch of conscious decisions about non-harmonic decisions. Treating pitch as an equal partner to rhythm, timbre, form, etc. made this so much better than “hey let’s just play up the minor seconds.”
Love how Shubh Saran used time to help pound the feeling home.... Too many people forget time is part of music and how different time signatures can make you feel grounded or unsettled or just out there
Shubh's one was just so damn good. Rhythmically even beyond the Lydian was insane.
I am OBSESSED with literally all of these. this might be my fave collab ever. can't wait for happy phrygian!
Doesn't tool play in phrygian?
@@depressedfrogpenis not happily😂
That first song by Shubh is mathcore as fuck. Please release on bandcamp
You deserve more likes
FACTS
YES Reminds me a lot of slint
Up
Aimee’s totally accomplished the goal of the task! That was upsetting.
“Making Locrian sound heavenly”
they made a video like that already
Really easy
Making ionian sound fancy
Ive been working on a song that moves between locrian, lydian, and mixolydian (locrian being the main groove) I'm beginning to realize that lydian and locrian are meant for each other. They follow each other in this weird unsettling melodic tension but each moves you along to a more stable sound. The fun part is keeping the unstable as your primary groove with a teasing resolve. There, that's the secret to lydian and locrian. They're magic..
🤠
Best video on CZcams in a long time 😁
Justice Cow's song made me giggle with giddy 😂
Same
Yo! I love both channels! It's always fun to connect disparate things.
Yes it was mostly genius. incredible.
Same
I love how Justice Cow paints each piece with her weird but accurate descriptors
She's like a female Ben Levin
i think the only one who succeeded was Aimee. Everyone else might have been harsh but they weren't ugly
"So, what's your taste in music?"
"You wouldn't get it"
that telletuby one will hunt me in my dreams this night
night update: i am being hunted rn
Yeah, the ones the two girls made were very unsettling lol
Yeah, the footage to the music was a great pick.
Adam: hey guys make ugly songs
Everyone: *make sungazer style songs*
Whoa! That that was deep
Ahahah this is so true! At this point thanks to Adam I think I can listen to the weirdest kind of music, find it beautiful and bang to it!
Justice Cow's piece literally gives me goosebumps every time I listen to it.
Except Aimee's piece. She won the competition.
Music is Win sounds like Animals as Leaders though
After listening to Aimee's submission, I am now aging much faster than I usually do. Dear god, I am losing brain cells Lord Help Me
damn, that one from Aimee Nolte was actually hurting or rather "not releasing" one, like some weird soundtrack. Shubh's and Justice Cow's one i actually really liked, spicy but enjoyable! Tyler's one was also very very cool to my liking, i tried to find that "ugly", but couldn't :D
Tyler really though he could just play a Primus song without anyone noticing
Konami Code?
Konami Mode.
@@colinbarberic5553 he went full contra
Shubh's definitely gave me those tingles on my neck. Gives me a heavy progressive rock vibe and I love progressive rock.
It's my favorite one!
Fantastic! I thoroughly enjoyed all of these, Adam's and Tyler's in particular. Really digging the Primus vibes in those bass lines.
"It's like someone trying to drunkenly headbang"
Is there any other way to headbang?
You know that feeling when you have been up for 27 hours because you have to finish that paper and the only thing keeping you up is After The Burial and the coffee that has refused to work anymore and you can feel the pencil splitting in your hand? Good time to headbang.
Headbanging on molly is also pretty great.
Stoned instead of drunk seems reasonable . . .
"100gecs does lydian"
my exact thoughts
Having a weird Baader-Meinhof situation because I only heard about 100 gecs earlier this morning and now they’re coming up in this video.
The comment I was looking for. Justice Cow's song is an amazing hyperpop piece
I was gonna comment that Cow's vocals reminded me of Laura Les and Neely beat me to the punch
That moment when you realize she's playing the melody from Girl From Ipanema on that synth :P
I just can't tell how much I love this video. It's perfect: the protagonists, the music, the cut... everything! It carries me through this effin' pandemic with all its challenges! Bless you all, bless you Adam Neely!
Adam: Hey, you wanna make ugly Lydia music?
Aimee: Hold my Teletubbies.
Even the addition of "The Girl From Ipanema" was kind of creepy.
Absolutely fantastic! Shubh Saran: a dirty punch in your jaw. Justice Cow: an infernal creep under your skin. Aimee Nolte: a depressive mania that takes over you. Music is Win: an comfortable discomfort. Adam Neely: a freakin monster.
"It's difficult to make it sound bad."
It really isn't in my hands.
So a follow-up: none of these really make Lydian sound bad, rather they seem to try to sound bad in spite of being in Lydian by reaching to things that aren't inherent in Lydian (except maybe Adam and to a lesser degree M=W). Try to simplify it a bit. Just use one piano, one guitar or one Game Boy and really focus on the weakness of the Lydian.
We need more scale challenges!
Aimee Nolte out here musically braking the Geneva Convention...
Why did she put The Girl from Ipanema in the middle lol
Oh no
If I ever write a horror movie, I'm hiring the shit out of Aimee.
Good move
I'm enthralled by everyone's approach to this. Amazing talent here.
One of the most inspiring video's I've seen in a long time! Great concept. Waiting for more modes-video's like this one :-)
This is such a cool way to demonstrate that the “rules” are made to be broken. It is really valuable to know things like the lydian mode really well SO THAT you can make unique sounds like these.
Aimee had the most 'wtf' factor, holy shit. That was wild. Literally never heard anything like those harmonies before in my life.
Yeah it was nuts! Another song I know that does this kind of close interval harmony is the piece Natasha & Bolkonsky's from the musical Natasha, Pierre and the Great Comet of 1812
czcams.com/video/z7xgfJYFaSs/video.html
YES i love super close/dissonant harmonies in vocal arrangements! it gave me both Dave Malloy and Eric Whitacre vibes, I found myself oddly humming along in a whole other harmony and felt like weirdly at home within the chaos lol
@@whatdoyousuppose Same. It was dissonant but also haunting and beautiful. Chills down my spine!
idk I guess I listened too much bulgarian folk singing to find seconds disturbing
@@mminlovewithflo I guess I need to listen to more Bulgarian folk lol. Could you recommend any specific key words I might use to narrow my search?
God, this is amazing, every track is beautiful. I know the goal was "ugly," but maybe it's suggestive, like "ugly" is in the eye of the beholder. Or... In the ear of the behearer?
This is some of the most creative stuff I've heard in a while. Thank you a million times, all of you.
Adam’s song sounds like a gameboy game text box that just says “Something is wrong.”
Very Earthbound vibes
It reminded me of the Metroid Fusion encounter with Nightmare
"Lydian, You Ugly" was so good and headache inducing omg
Uglydian though XD
Either I am finding out my taste is into bad stuff or these folks can't make bad music if they tried
These exercises are the most fun and enjoyment I've had out of music in a long, long time. Thank you Adam and all your friends for doing these. My ears have been fertilized again.
This gets my vote for the best peice of content on the Internet! That's as good as it gets for me. I could watch this video all day (but I hope I won't because that's not good for me...). Thanks to all of you! Amazing. Hugh🌼
Justice Cow's interpretation of vibes is so accurate. It's also incredibly close to the makers inspiration most of the time. Really interesting. The chewing on glass and cave metaphor were dead on!
ahh thanks!
"Quivering flanks, market tanks. Don't call it necessary"
These are the lyrics of the year
This was so much fun to watch and listen and learn. Thank you and your guests for sharing! ✌🏼😊
Lydian is like my ex.
She could gain 50lbs, get bangs, dance like a crackhead and still be mesmerizingly beautiful.
I miss my ex :(
Feel ya man :(
They all failed, every piece sounded great.
They all sounded great, however, their takes all sounded alternative or electronic. This is a good thing because they all are likely to be ugly. While that could be taken as “Lydian is so good that even dissonances become good”, it also shows their skills in composing as well.
@@iantaakalla8180 that's what I thought too... To make it ugly you first have to understand it very well
Hey Adam, very cool your bass line and the harmonic concept , very inspiring. Greetings from Brazil.🙂
Damn who knew I liked ugly music so much. Justice Cow's hit me in the right way and music is win felt very nostalgic but I think Shubh Saran nailed it for me. That's what my brain sounds like at night when I'm by myself.
Adam just out here‘ combinin words
„Guitarmony“
„Steve vimus“
Uglydian
The Aimee Nolte's audio-visual contribution has just shown how music can change the perception of the visual part of the particular work. Great, had so much fun watching this video.
I actually like these more than most songs in lydian. Lydian often sounds too "nice" to me, its prettiness is what makes it sort of dull in the wrong hands. I especially like Shubh and Aimee's contributions. Aimee's is fascinatingly weird, I keep coming back to it. It inspires me to make weirder music. Shubh's is just a genuine jam and I'd gladly listen to a full version on purpose.
This open assignment collaboration style format is incredibly satisfying to watch. Great work everyone!
"Nega Bill Wurtz isn't real, he can't hurt you"
Nega Bill Wurtz: 15:33
lol
Damn! Shubh should write more metal music, that was literally such an incredible composition. I could have gotten lost in that sound space forever!
really enjoyed that. not ugly, it's different and interesting. so many ideas. you just showed once again, music has no limits. thx
Thanks Adam and company. all were great. Adam I especially love you stuff
Holy shit, whatever the fuck Aimee Nolte did evoked such a visceral response in me. Like, it literally made my eyebrows rise, my skin prickle and my head hurt. Awesome!
Me: *knows close to nothing about music theory*
Hm yes, the music is made up of music.
WOW. All of them were great. One of my fave videos of yours.
I love how Justive Cow is able to describe everything perfectly weirdly.
Shubh Saran: "Ima Mick Gordon the crap outa this."
It could work in an off kilter psychedelic doom level
Shubh’s song sounded like he was taking us on a journey through outer space
very good video idea Adam. Good job team, really cool and interesting music pieces :)
You all rocked! Do more of these!
Ok
First
Pretty locrian
Then ugly Lydian
What’s next
Triumphant aeolian
Evil Ionian
What is in your mysterious brain Adam
majestic fanfare in d flat minor
Triumphant aeolian sounds not that hard though
“Write a Blues song without dominant 7 chords”
@@pacmanboss256 You would probably find that one in some Zelda soundtrack.
Pretty Locrian: Abuse the 4th
Happy Phrygian: Hey we still have a regular 5th :V (And three major chords)
Triumphant Aeolian: EDM with brass
Dorian: Yes
Mixolydian: I don't even know what the antithesis of Mixolydian even is? Mixolydian that resolves or something?
Evil Ionian: There's a half-tone between the 1st and 7th and that can sound really damn evil if you know what you're doing
Ugly Lydian: Abuse the 4th
I... loved all of them?
None of them sounded “ugly” to me. Menacing, maybe. Creepy, perhaps. Scary even. But ugly? Nah. I guess the concept of ugliness is too subjective.
Not that I’m complaining, tho!
i dont think they mean bad ugly. They meant ugly as in odd and strange, its easy to make just bad music in any scale lol
Yeah, ugly music isn't inherently bad. Ugliness is subjective like you say, but not only that, considered by itself, all ugliness is is ugliness. Just because ugliness is considered bad in many contexts, that doesn't mean everything that's ugly is bad. There are entire genres of music that sound ugly, like goregrind and harsh noise, but neither genre is inherently bad music; whether something sounds bad is even more subjective than whether something sounds ugly, but even if you personally don't like any goregrind or harsh noise, you may still be able to appreciate their existence as ugly genres.
It's not just music, either. The same goes for art, films, books, etc. as well. Taking it even further, it's like how just because a person is ugly, that doesn't necessarily mean they're a bad person. Ugly people can be nice, talented, happy, etc. and ugly music, art, films, books, etc. can be nice, take talent to make, and it can be enjoyable.
Ugly doesnt mean bad. Think about it. A face could be ugly but the person who wears it could be the kindest most loving person.
I loved the first one
Loved this, Adam. Thanks for all you do - big shouts to the contributors of this vid too!
This feels like a professional designer trying to draw like a kid