Watch THIS Before You Remodel - Plus the first GOOD 3D Measure App for plans!
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I'm actually a fan of doing the flooring under the cabinets. When it comes time to replace the dishwasher or any of the other appliances that might come all the way down to the floor, it's almost impossible to get a replacement that is exactly the same size. Or maybe there's some water damage and a cabinet has to be replaced, or maybe after a few years the customer wants something different there and the cabinet has to be replaced.
In all of these cases, if you don't have flooring that goes under the cabinets, then you're going to wind up with gaps in the flooring where the new unit is smaller, or you may have to cut away some of the flooring in order to get a larger unit in. If you have gaps, it's going to be almost impossible to install new material that matches the old floors. If you have to cut the flooring to match, that might be hard to do and leave rough edges that are difficult to hide and make it look right.
Ask me how I know. I really wish we had flooring that ran under our cabinets in our kitchen.
It's an obsolete assumption that a matte finish is hard to keep clean. Modern materials are much more durable and user friendly than in years past and a matte finish just looks more attractive, modern and timeless than a gloss finish, in my opinion. I love the look of that kitchen!
Hallelujah, someone who is educated on this subject! 😄
I love this series!!!! Lots of awesome info!!!
Thx!!
I agree with Matt on hard to keep matte finish looking clean and new. Also never understand the fascination with marble. It’s expensive stains easily and requires much more maintenance than a quartz you could get in the same look.
Agree. Honed quartz is hard to tell apart.
I'm a big fan of quartz counter tops. Durable, looks nice, not too expensive.
Marble can be pretty, but it's just too easy to damage. Most of our European antiques have marble tops, and most of those tops have had to be replaced. Granite or quartz is a much more durable option, and granite has other drawbacks.
Now, when it comes to a backsplash, I think marble can be beautiful and functional. I just don't want it as my countertop.
Matte black is incredibly hard to keep clean, I would only use it for a kitchen that isn’t going to be used much. Same for marble countertops, marble is higher maintenance for no advantage over modern synthetics like Dekton. I’m disappointed that they put a multi thousand dollar pop-up extractor on a non-induction cooktop. If $$$ really matter, IKEA has decent induction cooktops for under $1,000.
That downdraft vent is around $1200
Colors and finishes are not hard to clean if a polyaspartic topcoat is applied.
The main problem I have is they are using basically off the shelf Blum hardware and presenting it as if it this amazing new thing. Like dude that shit has been available for years
@@butafly5117 agreed! But so many Americans have been subjected to crap “contractor grade” kitchen hardware for so long that even basic Blum hardware seems amazing.
Is there a place we can post specific questions that aren’t related to the video?
Off topic question: we are getting a completely new fence since a tornado took ours out last year and wanted to know which is better in 2022 , Pressure Treated OR Cedar fencing? Not sure it’s true but I’ve heard that cedar these days isn’t like cedar of the past and doesn’t hold up as long. Any help would be appreciated or let me know where I should post my question. Thank you.
I predict that black cabinets and appliances will be popular for about two seconds. People will swear off them when they find out how often they look like they need to be cleaned.
I've had black cabs and appliances for 12 years and they never look dirty.
Yup! I do know that depending on which way the windows face and light enters the room will dictate how much you see the dust and such. For instance my kitchen faces west so full sun almost all day, I can see every bit on my blacktop stove and my cherry cabinets. But my neighbor who has the same house layout (subdivision) faces south and she doesn't get that direct light. Even though she has cats, you do t see the dust very much at all
So much better to stand in front of the Build wall. Sitting in front, you had way too much headroom and looked tiny. Much better framing and it feels much more natural.
@@BiggMo I'd do that collab!
@@LegalEagle I see you are a man of culture!
Been using apps for a few years for design, very rudimentary measurements and for job management. There are a lots of good apps out there although they all collect your data and dont let you deselect what information they gather from your device.
Good stuff!
camera a little too shaky for me. please use a gimbal. love the content.
Thx!
Interesting video. Is that vent on that cooktop island going to sufficient when things get very smokey on certain recipes?
It ducts (8”) through the slab to the outside…should be sufficient in most cases.
What's the rating how much air can it pull
You can probably get by with counter exhaust if going induction but you better have a solid erv running continuously to augment that stove is going to be the largest source of no Teri or pollutants esp if u don’t use spray foam anywhere. As for the countertops sorry marble looks beautiful but if u have kids or two working spouses need to get practical
@@ordinary_deepfake it’s slightly below 400 cfms
@@johnwhite2576 there is a really nice operable window over sink, opening put to the screen porch, so that will help some. But if we had been going new, we would have taken a different approach.
Why not induction for the stove top? Just curious.
$
It's a flip. No roi..
Induction is the way to go if someone insists on electric. Assuming they’re clean. I clean mine EVERY time before I cook so it never gets cruddy and the white rings.
Will not work on non-metal pans for one. The induction is bad for some peoples health, think pace maker.
@@maryriha induction IS sweet but this is a FLIP. the added 750$ unit cost they'd never make back.
Which brand of Bluetooth tape measure did you use with MagicPlan?
Should have done honed tops. Those are going to be a nightmare. Looks a million times nicer than Matt’s kitchen! 🤪
We actually put a lot of thought into that decision & decided that resealing from time to time was too big an inconvenience for the contrast & pop created by the polished tops. We could have done the inverse though, shiny cabs & honed stone. In my experience the shiny black shows way too many finger prints though.
I love it the design the matte the marble the electric cooktop
Thank you!!
OMG, damn flippers and homeowners are the only ones who fall for the "pop-up vents really work" BS! Every professional kitchen designer will tell you flat out they dont work for heat driven particles or even just steam. Also those cabinets look like MDF or formica covered. I'm sure that can be spun and sold as 'upcycling' sawdust or waste material but i will take natural state materials everytime for a look of craftsmanship.
The vent actually works pretty darn well, but don’t take my word for it. With flat slab Euro cabinets MDF core is ideal to minimize bowing. I do believe I understand your thought process though, & I used to feel similarly, until installing a bunch of high end Euro cabs over the years & asking lots of questions along the way.
@@DesignBuildDoug I have seen somenyears ago that were terrible at doing a good job at vent. A small smoke stick might get pulled in but not steam from a rolling boil qnd some smoke from q blackening pan (hopefully with fish in it!). They may have improved but t both design centers the kitchen and bath designers still avoid them like the plague unless an owner insists or admits they dont actually cook.🤷🏻♂️ Your mileage may vary.
If you are talking about the strength of MDF as an engineered product I would agree but of course there is something to be said about the natural look of wood that to me is hard to replace. I mean we could make aluminum boxes and simply put a powder coating on them and that would last but who wants to work in a machine shop for a kitchen? (Okay... I might want to work in a machine shop for a kitchen but besides me?!) I did not see you open those cabinets in the video but I hope that they were frameless because if you were going to go with a gyro style engineered cabinet frameless is the way to go.
@@danielbuckner2167 i have old school wood cabinets at my house, & I would 100 percent rather have these MDF cored ones in the video. They are extremely high end, contemporary, sleek, & durable. All frameless, with top flight glides & hinges & even metal drawer boxes. The high end edge banding makes literally the MDF submergible in water, which you could never do with wood. And the factory applied exterior shell is WAY more durable & scratch resistant than painted cabinets could ever be. Watch some of my videos on these cabinets on The Build Show Network to better understand why high end European designers have gone this exact same direction.
matt love the videos. Always do. would appreciate if you ever mention embodied carbon though. A lot of material choices made now adays *hopefully are aware of the impacts of embodied carbon. I mean you talk about high efficiency envelopes lets just mention how much of a benefit they give
There is not enough countertop space on the sides of that stove top.
that is the worst functional kitchen ive seen in a while
I thought code was 15” on any side of the stove to prevent knocking into a hot pot or pan. Or is that a state by state code?
@@robertrusso877 I always thought 15" is recommended with no minimum requirements. I can't imagine these designers would mess up such a simple code.
Codes vary or don’t exist in some states but NKBA guideline is 12” on one side, 15” on the other and 9” across the back. Minimum is 12” on either side.
Does the app work in the UK. Thanks
Yes magic plan is based in Germany
A little clarification on Magic Plan please. You say in the video “once you demo and create a clean slate” use magic plan to get the measurements for layout, but you have significant wait times on appliances and custom cabinets. Does this app work to measure and plan a kitchen remodel while your still using a kitchen with all the cabinets and appliances still in it?
Yes absolutely. You can plug & play the objects such as individual cabinets (from an object library) before or after demo. Each object is adjustable in measurements by you the user.
So you have to demo the space first? Who demos without a design?
We do, sometimes. Just to see the blank slate & feel the new opportunities in person vs. exclusively through a computerized rendering.
I found the magic plan app a couple months ago & have been using it for a new reconstruction I’m working on. Super impressive.
So does the space have to be demo'd?
Counter depth fridges are too small. I’m thinking about partially sinking the fridge into the wall next time.
No they are not.
@mattrisinger massive question, would be great if you see this, i am in the process of new home construction with metal roof/wall on wood frame, purlins under the metal roof rather than sheathing, i do have plastic house wrap between the purlinings and metal, But question is, i plan on using closed cell spray from spray directly to the house wrap/metal rather than venting and spraying the celling, IS this ok or will my purlingings rot out over time from water seeping down the screws?? thanks Matt or anyone else how has ran into this scenario.
Highly dislike the outlets on the counter top! That should be clean and smooth. Put the pop out on the backsplash something you have to spray and wipe down so much less. :)
I saw shelves that pop out of countertops in corners, (instead of a corner cabinet with a lazy susan), and all I could think of was, "What if you spill something sticky or greasy on the counter and it runs down inside?" Nope. Just give me smooth easy to clean counters.
Hear ya, but we wanted to show off the continuous vein backsplash unadulterated
Word
@@DesignBuildDoug like an interuption like a wood shelf? Got it. Why not use a shallow box embedded into the bottom of the shelf with wiring into a box on the wall exposed when the shelf is removed theough cammed screws? IRC calls for outlets every 24" above counters, thats a lot of holes. Better yet use the same hardware for the pop-up and bond a piece of the same stone on it and backset it to be flush. You can use the same piece of stone taken out with a small gap from the blade or ut a very similar piece. Your stone installer can use layout software to show you EXACTLY what the stone will look like at specific measurements to see if it is a veined spot or easier to blend with a new piece cut 5o fit exactly if you are using a pro company. You also can install electrical boxes on the cabinets face in black within 12" of the top as long as the overhng is less than 6".
@@danielbuckner2167 good food for thought Daniel, thx!
...yup, every matte finish I've encountered leaves little polish marks when scrubbing on it.
The kitchen may look good but not overly functional. The stove barely has any space on the sides, to plate food or anything. I think extra 6" on each side would have made alot more sense., Open shelves seem nice but stuff usually gets very dusty.. Where do you keep your pots and pans if most cabinets are drawers? Also, double opens that are not french doors are huge pain to clean. Marble also stains quite easy. I'd prefer soapstone or quartzite for probably 1/3rd less $ but much more durability. I think the app itself seems good, for sure, IF it can replace an architect to get plans passed by city ... but actual design, is mostly form over function.
Matt, you need to check out Kellys country life CZcams channel, he just built he and his wife a pole barn house in florida and just scored a .64 ach50 blower door test😳
Only apple?
Don't get me wrong it looks amazing but I think it would be an annoyance to use. The layout of that kitchen dose not seem practical. The stove location alone makes me not want to cook in that kitchen.
On the plus side the layout allows for connectivity to the living room while cooking, which I really like.
What about that good measuring app?
What app are you using? Forgive my ignorance...
I may be a neat nik but matt finishes are hard to clean. Most people are not clean enough to keep up regular slick finishes let alone matt.
Va va va vaaa vaaaaaa..!!!!
Manufacturers state that lvp should not be installed under cabinets. That and why would I want to pay thousands of dollars worth of flooring that will never be seen.
🙋🙋🙋
Thx!!
Flooring UNDER cabinets!?!? Someone sounds like a flipper. We never do that as the flooring will likely be replaced or covered rather than countertops and cabinets replaced. We have had clients for decades and arent a hit and run outfit so we see the evolution of needs and usage in homes in a real way. Built ins for appliances is fine like an oven or fridge but with the designed obsolescence of todays appliances we have moved away from that unless they are using higher end appliances with a longer lifespan like Miele, Bosch, or subzero. Otherwise using standars is great because the ease of swapping out old for new appliances.
If the people who had done our kitchen had run the tile under our cabinets, then when it came time to replace our dishwasher, I wouldn't have wound up with these huge gaps in the Saltillo tile under the unit, because it didn't extend several more inches out into the room at the baseboard, like the old unit did.
I hate, loathe, and despise that huge gap in the tile, which now can't be easily matched by new tile, and even if new tile was placed into that huge gap, it would still be cut wrong.
Haha, running the flooring continuously under cabinets the way we did is 100% better than not doing so. It allows for the best of both worlds, not to mention it takes more effort & costs more money. The toe kicks are removable so if you wanted to cleanly change flooring you could (in 50-80 years). We apply this practice because we don’t use old school shoe molding. For perspective, when I worked for a production builder 16 years ago, we installed the cabinets first. After many years of building high end custom homes I came to realize the benefits of installing flooring first & continuously, even where you wont be able to see it, as it’s doing the next guy/gal a favor IMO. But to each their own.
@@shubinternet Im not sure if you mean at the baseboard(the back of the cavity) or the toekick(the front of the cabinets) but either way the dishwasher is a removable appliance and the tile should go all the way back. Does the tile under your fridge or stove also stop before reaching the back wall? The issue is lazy installers, not lack of tile under cabinets.
@@DesignBuildDoug I would say that is 100% wrong for all the reasons you mentioned. You are right, you are way is more expensive but expensive doesn't always mean you're getting something better. You might say 50 to 80 years as the product might last that long but of course how long was the product you tore out in there, 20? 30? When I do high-end stuff at least in the area where I work people have enough money that they don't leave things for 50 or 80 years and so in as little as 20 or 30 they will be changing out the flooring because they want a different color or a different style. Unless you are using cheap cabinets flooring will always be less expensive and so cabinets get that priority. Don't forget you've got a backsplash and a countertop and all your plumbing as well to remove if you want to change that flooring up beneath those cabinets. But you are right about to each their own and if it makes your clients happy then I am happy for your clients!✌😁
@@danielbuckner2167 -- the base of the old dishwasher came out much further than the baseboard when it was installed, so when they put the Saltillo tile down, they cut it to fit around the base of the dishwasher which was sitting directly on the concrete subfloor in the kitchen. When the new dishwasher was installed, that left a roughly four to six inch gap between where the old Saltillo tile stopped and the base of the new dishwasher began.
If they had run the Saltillo tile all the way wall-to-wall and then installed cabinets and the dishwasher on top of that, then when the new dishwasher was installed, there would be four to six inches of Saltillo tile that was being newly exposed, but there wouldn't have been a gap in the tile showing the concrete subfloor.
You should always use an good Architect.
I disagree. Always is a strong word, when talking about everyone & every situation.
i have been wanting to hire a architect but i don't know how to find or what is a good architect. I want to get an architect that could do the plan and we would be our own contractors. Any thoughts on how i would find someone that would do that
@@Ender_Wiggin call your local AIA chapter or local building inspector for who's doing good work.
@@grahamstefaan wow i would never have thought of that thank you
pop up vents NEVER WORKS
Definitely better than the all white kitchens.
Amen!
Geez drafters are becoming more and more obsolete every second. RIP my job
I personally don’t like the cook top exhaust fan….
Wouldn’t have been our first choice either, was working with what we had.
1:57...is an over-simplification what an Architect brings to a project like this. I can assure every viewer Architect's do a lot more than just existing conditions. We should also think that selecting your appliance first, before understanding the client budget is probably not exactly the correct order. Just fridges along have a 2k up to 15k price point, again this might be an over-simplification of the process. I laughed when I heard matte black, sorry to say it folks but this is a trend that came [barely holding on] and went at least for residential. When in doubt black it out? Whether this is speculative or custom if you are operating upwards and beyond of a 30k+ budget for cabinetry we should be considering timeless design, or pull ques from the house era to tie things in. These color trends are just that, trends.
Additionally, the layout of this kitchen is off...having a stove island with no or very little counter to either side is completely ridiculous and very unusable.
Grease latent air and water boil overs will simply plaster the sides of this trendy matte black island. And from experience, matte black sinks are [to my knowledge] only done with a coating finish that tends to fail quickly, so let's add this to the 5 year replacement plan. To me this looks like another build company that has "an eye for design" but is far from delivery a truly custom thoughtful piece.
AR scanning? Not that good or accurate, even with added benefit of LiDar.
The scanner tool is 97% accurate believe it or not. We confirmed all the vital measurements with a bluetooth laser tape that connects to magic plan without any manual entry necessary.
Sorry but an app does not replace a professional designer. "We can use an Architect for all of this or we can just come in ourselves and just shoot the whole space with a phone or an ipad". How can you have these kinds of comments made on a channel that also has someone who is so design focused like Brent Hull?
Great question - we too love our architects and always team with one for our large projects. This remodel was mostly cosmetic and was a fantastic fit for a user friendly app like magic plan. It has a ton of uses (like procuring material takeoffs) including in situations where architects are involved.
**also architects can use this tool to gather their measurements for remodels more quickly & efficiently then old school methods. Trust me!
Snobby and pretentious.
How so?
I don't understand, why the hell American's short sleeves are very long..!!! 🤣🤣
Gawd awful cabinet color choice.
.com must go! or at least do it with an ominous voice.