George R.R. Martin explains where Tolkien got it wrong
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- čas přidán 9. 08. 2015
- During his visit to Staten Island for the "Game of Thrones" themed night at Richmond County Bank Ballpark, A Song of Ice and Fire author George R.R. Martin talked about the shortfalls of his fantasy book predecessor, J.R.R. Tolkien.
at least Tolkien can finish a story
Is there honestly anyone alive who finishes reading The Lord of the Rings, puts down the book and lies awake in bed at night staring at the ceiling, wondering what taxes are like under Aragorn's rule?
This just shows me Tolkien knew how to end a story and Martin does not.
The largest difference is that Tolkien writes like a linguist penning a myth and Martin writes like a sociologist penning a journal
Martin is just pissed that he lost Epic Rap Battles of History to Tolkein.
The only thing that went wrong with Tolkien and his work was....
Tolkien: "Here are The Silmarillion, The Children of Húrin, The Fall of Gondolin and The Book of Lost Tales"
It tells more about George R.R. Martin than about Tolkien.
It's simple, George: Aragorn's rule was NOT the point of the story in The Lord of The Rings :)
Tolkien spent 11 years writing a LANGUAGE for his novel. Believe me if he'd wanted to get into the sorts of detail that Martin is asking for, he would have. Tolkien wrote about what he thought was important. It took him a year to write the last chapter of LOTR because he kept rewriting and thinking about all the detail....he wasn't someone who "accidentally" forgot to put something in the books.
Tolkien was in world war 1 he was in the trenches and came out of that experience to fill children born far past his death and cultivated imagination and creativity in us he could’ve just been another broken sad man but no he created the greatest fictional story ever he’s a legend among legends
“Finally after a lifetime I have finished my stories of a created universe spanning 10,000 years from the birth of the universe and all the origins of all living things. I spent 11 years creating a complete new language to fit into this world and wrote backstories and lineages to every single character including trees. I can now end the story with a new hero King and all evil being eradicated. At long last a beautiful story and world comes to an end…”
“George R.R. Martin explains where Tolkien got it wrong”
Tolkien wrote fantasy.
I’ll believe Martin’s got a point in how to end a series once Martin ends his series
"In these cynical days when swashbucklers cannot be presented without an ironic subtext, this great 1938 film exists in an eternal summer of bravery and romance. We require no Freudian subtext, no revisionist analysis; it is enough that Robin wants to rob the rich, pay the poor and defend the Saxons"
Yeah, what LOTR really needed to make it a true classic is account of Gondor's tax policy. Yep, that's it.
It was called "Lord of the Rings" not "Tax and Trade Policy in Middle Earth".
I could never imagine sitting down with a book and thinking, “what in the bloody hell are the tax policies?!”
Martin seems to forget or ignore that LOTR is, according to Tolkien's fiction, written by the characters themselves, while he only acts as translator. Therefore, "he ruled wisely for five hundred years" makes perfect sense since that's how Frodo, Sam and whoever else contributed to the text perceived Aragorn's reing or simply how they wanted to end their tale. They might as well have used "and he lived happily ever after"...