Personally I love Amanda. She is quite beautiful and she is also a wonderful mother to Spock. I feel like she is a very underrated character. Plus you got to give her points for everything she did marrying Sarek. I know they love each other but being a human married to a Vulcan can't be the easiest thing
Thankfully I'm able to do the salute with my left hand, which is good, because I have a photo of me with Nichelle Nichols from probably one of her final convention appearances from last year.
Good writing how Amanda’s clothing covered her ears so that the only way you can know she’s human, before Spock admits they’re his parents, is by her smile.
@@jimbob5631 Actor Mark Leanord, who is of Russian and Jewish decent, played a Romulan, a Vulcan and a Klingon, and is the only known actor to potray three alien figures of the Star Trek franchise. He is also known to potray Aaron Stemple in the tv series, Here Come The Brides, and also had a role in Buck Rogers in the 25th century whare he removed his head. He also potrayed Charles Ingals grown up brother in Little House On The Prairie. I believe he also had roles in Mission Impossible as well as Hawaii 5 O. Mark Leonard has since passed away in 1990, i believe.
Mar Lenard passed away in 1996.He also had made a guest appearance on The Incredible Hulk and made 2 guest appearances on Star Trek:TNG reprising the role of Sarek and appeared in Star T rek movies 3,4 & 6.
I love that moment where Sarek gives McCoy the ta'al and McCoy just looks at his hand like, "Okay fingers, time to cooperate! Nope, not happening." Great acting choices by Kelley there.
Joann Ross I always kinda thought they see that like a mixed race couple. If you had a mixed race officer, you wouldn’t assume that a mixed race couple are his parents, even in this case, where intermarriage is rare.
@@epicsamurai5 I see your point. But on the other hand, mixed race couples are the same species and can naturally procreate. Surak and Amanda would've needed significant scientific intervention and it doesn't seem that kind of achievement was commonplace at the time.
I feel like that WAS Kirk asking Spock about Sarek and Amanda in a subtle way, in that even if he assumed they were that was still quite the frosty reception. Even if it's cold Vulcan protocol, had still expected Amanda to say/do something.
When this episode first premiered, this must have been stunning for the fans. It was already established that Spock's family must have been very important given that T'Pau was earlier introduced in the season premier episode and it was mentioned that she was an extremely important and influential Vulcan.
Gotta love that music playing as the guards got ready to enter walking with the tempo and the when the ambassador walks out the shuttle...such nostalgia ☺️ TOS is just cool with out even knowing it.
That really embarrassing time when you were secretly hoping that your boyfriend would invite you to come meet his parents, only for you to drop the ball and for him to tell you in front of everyone "Jim....these *are* my parents "
For a supposedly logical being, Sarek doesn't do much to hide his contempt for spock. Barely looking at him, not returning Spocks salute, nor giving Spock one, plus requesting another officer show them around. Sarek is throwing Spock some pretty serious shade and I personally don't see any reason to do so. I'm sure each is well aware of their differences. So this obvious snubbing, especially in a diplomatic situation is not needed. Sarek could have kept things civil and kept their personal dispute a private matter between themselves. But he doesn't and both Kirk and Mccoy can sense something is off. Perhaps im nitpicking but Sarek isnt being very logical. Spock was.
It was said, and revealed that Father and son never spokd to each other for over 18 years because of the career choice Spock had in choosing Star Fleet rather than the Vulcan science academy. Surak and his Father both were in the Vulcan science academy, and strongly wanted Spock to follow into their footsteps and become involved in the Vulcan science academy. Spock choose to devote his scientific skills and knowledge to Star Fleet instead.
I was about 11 years old when I saw this in reruns in the early 70s! Jawdrop time! I've since met many families who have awkward situations and I flash back to this scene a lot!
@@alpha-omega2362 it was. Many scenes were reused in the series like the Romulan Bird Of Prey in the second season The Deadly Years, ehich was stock footage of Balsnce Of Terror.
It was mostly stock footage from "The Galileo Seven". All they'd have to do was drag the Galileo shuttlecraft shell to an empty soundstage and fit the door area of the soundstage with panels to make it look like a corridor of the Enterprise. The makeup and costumes (and the time to put on the makeup) was what blew up the budget, but at least the Andorian and Tellarite costumes and facial appliances could be occasionally re-used.
Our first meeting with Sarek. Even then, he was elegant, imperious, and magnificent. Mark Lenard set the tone for Vulcans (aside from Spock, of course) from this point, and few since have compared to the gravitas he brought to the role.
If you watch closely, it seems like Kirk is mad and crying a little that Sarek is dissing his best friend. When Sarek says he wants another guide, he's thinking, 'That's twice. Ambassador or not...'
I never noticed the Captain showing anger or shedding any tears here, just, surprise snd astonishment in first learning that Ambassador Suric prefered another guide, and that when Spock finally reveals that Ambassador Suric and his wife ARE his parents. You have to remember that Spock, who is trained in logic and controlling emotions, relates very little information about himsrlf, even to those to whom he may call a friend.
And years later Spock becomes Ambassador to Romulus. Sadly all those years of fighting between Sarek and Spock killed Sarek. He was emotionally compromised far too long
I can't help it but laugh at that every time I see it :D And before, when Sarek doesn't greet Spock back and everyone looks around awkwardly... fun stuff
It was awkward for Kirk when Spock told him that Ambassador Sarek & his wife are his parents,though he had a falling out with his father for a long time.
@@azurerainbow4637 It was a dispute about Spocks career choice which his Father wanted him to join the Vulcan space academy, Spock choose Star Fleet instead. It kept them from speaking as Father and son for 18 years.
I know that,but it sure hurt Amanda deep down and that she was unable to have them make peace with each other because Spock choose to join Starfleet,which his father didn't approve.
A race that lives by logic, here demonstrates emotion is at work, just guised as if it's not. Spock chose Starfleet as the best place to fit in where there are various races. Being half human/Vulcan, suggesting there is a low level rejection that a half breed lives among other Vulcans, and is not full Vulcan, as if he's an outsider on his own world. Sarek should logically understand this, not shun his only child. That's not logical.
At home nowhare but Star Fleet, his Mother has said, as she was hurt for her son as he was tormented by the other Vulcan children for not really being Vulcan because of his human half.
Vulcans are highly emotional beings. Their feelings are intense. It frightens them; Therefore they control; not eliminate emotion. That's how I see it anyway.
I never bought that Kirk couldn't have known that one of the Federation's most distinguished ambassadors was also his first officer's father. Did he never read Spock's record?
Throughout TOS Spock is presented as a very private person who does not give out much information about himself and does not welcome prying. If curious, Kirk would have read parentage names etc but they would not necessarily mean anything. And there is a huge difference between reading a name and meeting a person. You don't always put names with their real life incarnations.
@@va4vi579 Agree with your written statement, Spock was devoted to pure logic, devoted to his scientific duties along with being second in comand of the ship, and prefered that noone pry into his personal life as he treasured private meditation and solitude.
Even close friends and professional colleagues don't necessarily tell each other everything. In the earlier "Amok TIme" episode, for instance, both Kirk and Spock were surprised to find T'Pau officiating at Spock's wedding, and Kirk even commented that he hadn't realized Spock's family were quite THAT distinguished.
Cherl, Agree with your written comment to a certain extent. Spock, being unemotional and trained to not show emotions, pretty much wasen't really surprized thst T Pau officated at Spock's almost wedding to T Pring. The Captain, speaking to Dr. McCoy, as the good doctor, Bones, do you know who that is? When McCoy shook his head no, the Captain said, that's TPau, the only one who turned down a seat in the Federation council. Spock never mentioned his fsmily was that important, which calls to mind that it is a possibility that TPau might be related to Spock, this is how i precieved it. Maybe wrong, however, this how i took it, considering that Mr. Spock says and relates very, very little about his family, how the Vulcans and the Romulans who were once Vulcans who rejected Surik's teaching of pure logic and the despensing of emotions, or any other aspects of Vulcan society or Vulcan ancestory, or family members, etc. At any rate, this is another real, fine exsmple of the Original Star Trek Series that, simply put, beats the pants off of that next generation stuff and whatever followed it. Original Star Trek Series forever!
I like how the red shirt security detail marches in with confidence. All... except the last one who knows what happens to red shirts when they are sent to meet anyone... They get killed. So... The last guy delays his willingness to greet the ambassador's arrival. Thus... He is late.
One of the best episodes by far and the andorian spy went on to be a barber and a member of the feared black windows motor cycle gang in 2 Clint Eastwood movies
wasnt there a time when Spock told (nurse chapel maybe?) that his last name was almost unpronounceable by humans? it is entirely likely Sarek is just listed as Sarek on most documents, and Spock is just listed as Spock on most documents, for ease of the humancentric federation.
I’m surprised that Kirk didn’t put 2 and 2 together and realize that Sarek and Amanda were Spock’s parents. I mean, Kirk knew that Spock was half Vulcan and half human, and there can’t have been that many inter species marriages with Vulcans, especially with humans.
Woo HOO salute to the baddest mamma jamma around the 1 the only Captain Kirk played by William Shatner whom has successfully went into space as I write this.. Yeah I’m late on the date but this popped up in my feed and I loved this show as a kid. I’m 56 now and Shatner is 90. Loved the double fisted smacks to the back, and the ship wall jumps on the attackers. I wasn’t ever stupid enough to try these as a kid. I knew about stuntmen and other such things in shows. Sci Fi nut at heart and salute to Bill and the gang.
What I don't get is why didn't they just tap Spock for a couple of pints, clone however much they needed and simply filtered out the human factors? Wouldn't it make sense to keep some in stasis for emergencies that require a massive blood transfusion?
joem jackson Kirk never needed to ask any of his crew about their families, they would have to tell him themselves. As far as Kirk goes, he only needs to know his crew one on one.
I know you asked this a long time ago lol.....but with them being estranged it's most likely Spock never brought up the issue of his parents with Kirk.
I can't tell you horrified I was to get an add for the imposter Star Trek movie with Chris Pine, pop up on the side when I clicked on this vid. Sad day
Sarek was being a total rude and disrespectful jerk to Spock. I see no reason for his crummy behavior to his own son. I know their background, but Sarek is being unreasonable and dare I say..... illogical! Amanda ought to give Sarek a little schooling about his behavior towards his own son. I sure would love to. Spock doesn't deserve that crap from him. Spock is a good man and deserves much more respect. He struggles with his human side everyday ans Sarek is blind to this. Jerk.
SpiritBear12 Sarek , as a Vulcan repressed his emotions but more so towards his son. It is not until the TNG era that we realize that he had bottled up all his feelings for over a 100 years, and that he was really proud of his son to the point of almost breaking Picard down (they had mind melded). Sarek was atypical for Vulcans in that he chose his own mate and for qualities Vulcans normally did not value. Hence he overcompensated when dealing with his son to the point of barely acknowledging him outwardly. it didnt help that Spock and Sarek never did the fal-tor-pan family melding to transfer these feelings discreetly as Vulcans do.
SpiritBear12 could it be, Sarek acts this way partially because he is struggling with his illness? If you watch, as he exits the shuttle, he doesn't handle the steps easily as a healthy Vulcan could. Perhaps he just needs to be out of there and can't deal with holding back his feelings like someone might seem rude who had to get to the bathroom right away.
now that we have star trek discovery set in the prime timeline, sarek was probably holding back his emotions bc sarek chose Spock to be in the Vulcan science academy when given the choice between Spock and Michael Burnham.... And now we see Spock in starfleet so,,,, deduce what you can from that~
OK, but wouldn't it have been "logical" for the both of them to do this fal-tor-pan thing so that neither one of them have to live day by day with this hurt?
"There's something wrong about a man who never smiles, whose conversation never varies from the routine of the job, and who won't talk about his background," said Doctor McCoy. "I see," said Mr. Spock. From "I, Mudd" regarding Mr. Norman who would reveal himself as an android when he takes over the ship.
OK. Vulcans in general and Spock in particular do not like to talk about their private lives, but maybe Spock could have given Kirk a heads-up: the ambassador is my father and (maybe) he is not so happy I serve in Starfleet. After all, it would come up soon or later.
Sarek is my fave character, and I am currently reading a novel bout him. I was looking earlier tonight to see which of the ST shows have Vulcans in the main cast. Only TOS, ENT, SNW, & VOY. This got me thinking that the predominant species in any show is human. Virtually all captains are human. What if they did a ST show that did not have humans? Are Federation vessels required to have humans on them?
*Sarek* : Greetings, Captain Kirk. 🖖 Greetings, Doctor McCoy. 🖖 And Spock, my son. 🖕
Gee thanks, dad.
lol
Favoritism is illogical, it must be avoided at all times.
Just wait till your mother starts talking about your teddy bear ...
But it took eight of em to greet da shuttle craft......
@@Marinealver like, Sarek favored burnham more than spock. idk about you but, that's basically Favoritism..
I love how his mom turns around and gives a look like; you didn't tell your captain about us? Spock!
Personally I love Amanda. She is quite beautiful and she is also a wonderful mother to Spock. I feel like she is a very underrated character. Plus you got to give her points for everything she did marrying Sarek. I know they love each other but being a human married to a Vulcan can't be the easiest thing
And I suspect the reverse would also be true.
Yea. Plus Vulcans don’t wanna bang except every 7 years.
druidboy76 they do and can
这一版的阿曼达真的是最棒的，aos是什么鬼
Wonderful mother? She tried to lay a guilt trip on him
1:50 _(tries to do Vulcan Salute)_ "Well that hurts worse than the uniform."
Never fails to give me a chuckle. xD
Thankfully I'm able to do the salute with my left hand, which is good, because I have a photo of me with Nichelle Nichols from probably one of her final convention appearances from last year.
Good writing how Amanda’s clothing covered her ears so that the only way you can know she’s human, before Spock admits they’re his parents, is by her smile.
👍🤫🤭
It seems like when they are in public, Vulcan women veil themselves. I admire Amanda. She is so modest.
@@EdiaStanfordBruce like hijab LMAO
It's really her hair styling which, for the most part, hides her ears.
Plus the fact that her eyebrows weren't upswept?
it took 100 years for Sarek to accept Spock and finally admit he loved him.
No Redshirts were harmed in the making of this episode.
lol
Are you sure? I'm almost positive one of them is having a heartattack right there in the background.
At least in their Squad Formation at 1:40 They Had Their Phasers At The Ready position.
Thats because they mixed them with the yellow shirts in the washing machine. The resulting fabrics were repurposed as med bay bed sheets.
Big LOL
I love the way Amanda looks at Spock when Kirk suggests Spock go visit his folks
Maaaaaa I don't tell everyone everything !!!!
DON'T LET HIM ON THE SHIP!!! HE'S A ROMULAN COMMANDER!!!!!
And Klingon Commander In the first movie too
waltonsimons12 'Hmmm thought we killed him a while back there Spock?'
@@dancastro4732 I didnt know that. Nice tidbit!
@@jimbob5631 Actor Mark Leanord, who is of Russian and Jewish decent, played a Romulan, a Vulcan and a Klingon, and is the only known actor to potray three alien figures of the Star Trek franchise. He is also known to potray Aaron Stemple in the tv series, Here Come The Brides, and also had a role in Buck Rogers in the 25th century whare he removed his head. He also potrayed Charles Ingals grown up brother in Little House On The Prairie. I believe he also had roles in Mission Impossible as well as Hawaii 5 O. Mark Leonard has since passed away in 1990, i believe.
Mar Lenard passed away in 1996.He also had made a guest appearance on The Incredible Hulk and made 2 guest appearances on Star Trek:TNG reprising the role of Sarek and appeared in Star T rek movies 3,4 & 6.
Spock probably would have continued to hide that they were his parents if his mother wasn’t standing there XD
Yes thank you Captain, I would be most agreeable to see my Mum.
I love that moment where Sarek gives McCoy the ta'al and McCoy just looks at his hand like, "Okay fingers, time to cooperate! Nope, not happening."
Great acting choices by Kelley there.
Obviously, Spock never talked about them other than his mother was human.
funny kirk didnt put it together..seeing sarek had a human wife... ?
Joann Ross
I always kinda thought they see that like a mixed race couple. If you had a mixed race officer, you wouldn’t assume that a mixed race couple are his parents, even in this case, where intermarriage is rare.
It was not logical to discuss family matters.
@@epicsamurai5 I see your point. But on the other hand, mixed race couples are the same species and can naturally procreate. Surak and Amanda would've needed significant scientific intervention and it doesn't seem that kind of achievement was commonplace at the time.
I feel like that WAS Kirk asking Spock about Sarek and Amanda in a subtle way, in that even if he assumed they were that was still quite the frosty reception. Even if it's cold Vulcan protocol, had still expected Amanda to say/do something.
at 2:28 when Mccoy was about to give the salute but things just moved on, and hes like, whatever
I love how he's visibly vexed for just a moment, "dammit, I blew it just like I knew I would, I hate this whole mission"
@@babababad The way he must have felt when he became visibly vexed is how I feel in just about every forced social situation.
I never noticed that! That's a good bit of subtle acting
yeah the way he looks at his hand in resignation xD
"These are my parents."
DUN DUN DUN!
When this episode first premiered, this must have been stunning for the fans. It was already established that Spock's family must have been very important given that T'Pau was earlier introduced in the season premier episode and it was mentioned that she was an extremely important and influential Vulcan.
Indeed it was stunning! Even now after dozens and dozens of repeat viewings it still hits me like it did that day back in 1967.
RIP DeForrest Kelley, Leonard Nimoy, Mark Lenard and Miss Jayne Wyatt
Very sad😓😓😓😓
And James Doohan as well even though he is only mentioned in this episode and does not appear.
The music that goes trough my mind when my father approaches my messy room. 1:51
Lmao👍👍👍👍👍❤🙏
Strange that Kirk isn't freaking out that Sarek looks eerily similar to the Romulan Commander from Balance of Terror.
Betcha a tribble the thought Did cross his mind
lol
I don't think he ever saw the Romulan though.
@@brendansmith1573Watch Balance of Terror again
Spock: "Captain, Ambassador Sarek and his wife ARE my parents."
Kirk: :-O :-D
Kirk...."ahhh let's go to deck 5... Maury is waiting"
Sarek (Mark Lenard) was so handsome! Still crushing him to this day.
Gotta love that music playing as the guards got ready to enter walking with the tempo and the when the ambassador walks out the shuttle...such nostalgia ☺️ TOS is just cool with out even knowing it.
Kirk never reads his god damned briefings
Seriously. How do you miss that an important ambassador has a family member in your crew? That's some very obvious background information.
it is likely that neither Spock or his father disclosed that information to anyone they didnt think needed to know
@@bear8696 Still, you'd figure Star Fleet would be aware and let Kirk know.
@@bear8696 Yeah bro, high ranking star fleet officers, federation ambassadors, no need to know anything about their backgrounds
That really embarrassing time when you were secretly hoping that your boyfriend would invite you to come meet his parents, only for you to drop the ball and for him to tell you in front of everyone "Jim....these *are* my parents "
Mark Lenard as Sarek was a great casting choice, but I still like him in the episode Balance of Terror as the Romulan Commander.
Spock's mom is the mother from "Father Knows Best".
I like watching old black and whites to spot actors who have appeared in Star Trek.
For a supposedly logical being, Sarek doesn't do much to hide his contempt for spock. Barely looking at him, not returning Spocks salute, nor giving Spock one, plus requesting another officer show them around.
Sarek is throwing Spock some pretty serious shade and I personally don't see any reason to do so. I'm sure each is well aware of their differences. So this obvious snubbing, especially in a diplomatic situation is not needed.
Sarek could have kept things civil and kept their personal dispute a private matter between themselves.
But he doesn't and both Kirk and Mccoy can sense something is off.
Perhaps im nitpicking but Sarek isnt being very logical. Spock was.
EXACTLY!
"Forgive me, T'Lar, but my logic is uncertain where my son is concerned."
It was said, and revealed that Father and son never spokd to each other for over 18 years because of the career choice Spock had in choosing Star Fleet rather than the Vulcan science academy. Surak and his Father both were in the Vulcan science academy, and strongly wanted Spock to follow into their footsteps and become involved in the Vulcan science academy. Spock choose to devote his scientific skills and knowledge to Star Fleet instead.
Let's not be so delicate, Sarek is a fucking asshole.
I have to agree with you
Spock: "Captain, Ambassador Sarek and his wife ARE my parents."
An "I am your father!"
there's a difference between being logic and being rude. apparently sarek didn't understand that.
McCoy: Spock, why didn't you tell us your dad was a Romulan warbird commander from a previous episode?
Moonlight........ needed the cash £$€¥.........😂😂😂🏴
How does that vulcan salute go?...... That hurts worse than the uniform! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love it 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Oh Yeah! Sarek was a real sweetheart of a guy and a lousy Dad.
“Spock, I am your father.”
Spock: No! No it's not true! It's illogical!
Sarek: Search your feelings you know it to be true.
Spock: Noooo! No!
It's Spocks family reunion!
Tony Samson strangely that works for Star trek
And it's going about as well as so many family reunions do ...
Hang on We are missing Sybock but we would have to to Nimbus III
James Kirk and Leonard McCoy were speechless when Spock said that Ambassador Sarek and his wife are his parents.
Sad Spock is Sad.
And Spock is publicly humiliated and deeply hurt. That father-son war was deep.
Sarek is a hypocritical ass that just had to put down his son. Spock was ironically a better Vulcan than Sarek in his own logic
Yes it's true 2021 people not crazy about new Spock, he always had family issues.
Those people would find fault with a free cake.
1:18 The shuttle craft lands on a turntable that rotates the shuttle craft so that it's facing exit for a quick getaway. Very ingenious design.
I was about 11 years old when I saw this in reruns in the early 70s! Jawdrop time! I've since met many families who have awkward situations and I flash back to this scene a lot!
Just the whole attitude when Spock tries teaching McCoy the Vulcan salute.
"Sir: ambassador Sarek and his wife ARE my parents." (AWKWARD!) But storyline effective!
That one shuttle scene must have EATEN the episode's budget
I think it was used many times like stock footage...
But what a scene
@@alpha-omega2362 it was. Many scenes were reused in the series like the Romulan Bird Of Prey in the second season The Deadly Years, ehich was stock footage of Balsnce Of Terror.
It was mostly stock footage from "The Galileo Seven". All they'd have to do was drag the Galileo shuttlecraft shell to an empty soundstage and fit the door area of the soundstage with panels to make it look like a corridor of the Enterprise.
The makeup and costumes (and the time to put on the makeup) was what blew up the budget, but at least the Andorian and Tellarite costumes and facial appliances could be occasionally re-used.
+Tony Samson So much unwarranted hostility and you're not even right about what you're saying. Plus it's "capital", not "capitol". Moron.
1:01
*come on boys, they cant kill all of us*
*Crystalline Entity has entered the chat*
The Walking Dead
What are all these Graves ???
Oh, some 👦 boys that yelled:
"Come on boys, they can't kill all of us !"
The big dummy gang. 🤪
When they used great actors for television.
I Loved this scene , something about it was very iconic. I remembered it from being a child word for word
Our first meeting with Sarek. Even then, he was elegant, imperious, and magnificent. Mark Lenard set the tone for Vulcans (aside from Spock, of course) from this point, and few since have compared to the gravitas he brought to the role.
I miss those days. Rest Mark. Rest Jane. Rest Leonard. Rest James.
00:59 no red shirts where harmed in this episode.
If you watch closely, it seems like Kirk is mad and crying a little that Sarek is dissing his best friend. When Sarek says he wants another guide, he's thinking, 'That's twice. Ambassador or not...'
I never noticed the Captain showing anger or shedding any tears here, just, surprise snd astonishment in first learning that Ambassador Suric prefered another guide, and that when Spock finally reveals that Ambassador Suric and his wife ARE his parents. You have to remember that Spock, who is trained in logic and controlling emotions, relates very little information about himsrlf, even to those to whom he may call a friend.
We can't get over it
@@danbasta3677 Sarek
He's just a typical father that want's his son to do what he does, that's all.
And years later Spock becomes Ambassador to Romulus. Sadly all those years of fighting between Sarek and Spock killed Sarek. He was emotionally compromised far too long
aunt becky he wanted his son to serve in the
Vulcan science academy
@@Philip02K but Spock felt it was better to join Starfleet.
Captain Kirk is the only one of these actors that's still alive in March 2020. Time flies.
Kirk at the end: :/ well this is akward
I can't help it but laugh at that every time I see it :D
And before, when Sarek doesn't greet Spock back and everyone looks around awkwardly... fun stuff
It was awkward for Kirk when Spock told him that Ambassador Sarek & his wife are his parents,though he had a falling out with his father for a long time.
Especially since the ambassador admitted in front of everyone that his wife has AIDS; well technically I guess they both would have AIDS by now.
@@azurerainbow4637 It was a dispute about Spocks career choice which his Father wanted him to join the Vulcan space academy, Spock choose Star Fleet instead. It kept them from speaking as Father and son for 18 years.
I know that,but it sure hurt Amanda deep down and that she was unable to have them make peace with each other because Spock choose to join Starfleet,which his father didn't approve.
Always liked the. Slow turn " Mom Does "
3:04
A race that lives by logic, here demonstrates emotion is at work, just guised as if it's not. Spock chose Starfleet as the best place to fit in where there are various races. Being half human/Vulcan, suggesting there is a low level rejection that a half breed lives among other Vulcans, and is not full Vulcan, as if he's an outsider on his own world. Sarek should logically understand this, not shun his only child. That's not logical.
At home nowhare but Star Fleet, his Mother has said, as she was hurt for her son as he was tormented by the other Vulcan children for not really being Vulcan because of his human half.
Yes. This always bothered me when he shunned Spock. It wasn't logical and something an emotional human would do
Not his only child, his first son was banished because he rejected logic.
Guess Sarek got shitty when both his sons didn't do what he wanted lol
Vulcans are highly emotional beings. Their feelings are intense. It frightens them; Therefore they control; not eliminate emotion. That's how I see it anyway.
you guys should watch Discovery man
One of the great initial plot twists of all time... Despite the intelligence failure!
One of my favorite episodes of TOS! Especially McCoy's parting line, and the three or four scenes just before it!
How George Lucas came up with."I am your father".
Ugh, it'd be so much fun to work in Starfleet. Just avoid any security positions, cuz those are 80% of the deaths in this show.
Spock could have 10, 20 more relatives he never told anyone about. We don't know!
Well One of them is on Nimbus III
I never bought that Kirk couldn't have known that one of the Federation's most distinguished ambassadors was also his first officer's father. Did he never read Spock's record?
Joseph Massaro he never needed to, Spock performed his duties well enough not to merit any investigation or inquiries.
Throughout TOS Spock is presented as a very private person who does not give out much information about himself and does not welcome prying. If curious, Kirk would have read parentage names etc but they would not necessarily mean anything. And there is a huge difference between reading a name and meeting a person. You don't always put names with their real life incarnations.
@@va4vi579 Agree with your written statement, Spock was devoted to pure logic, devoted to his scientific duties along with being second in comand of the ship, and prefered that noone pry into his personal life as he treasured private meditation and solitude.
Even close friends and professional colleagues don't necessarily tell each other everything. In the earlier "Amok TIme" episode, for instance, both Kirk and Spock were surprised to find T'Pau officiating at Spock's wedding, and Kirk even commented that he hadn't realized Spock's family were quite THAT distinguished.
Cherl, Agree with your written comment to a certain extent. Spock, being unemotional and trained to not show emotions, pretty much wasen't really surprized thst T Pau officated at Spock's almost wedding to
T Pring. The Captain, speaking to Dr. McCoy, as the good doctor, Bones, do you know who that is? When McCoy shook his head no, the Captain said, that's TPau, the only one who turned down a seat in the Federation council. Spock never mentioned his fsmily was that important, which calls to mind that it is a possibility that TPau might be related to Spock, this is how i precieved it. Maybe wrong, however, this how i took it, considering that Mr. Spock says and relates very, very little about his family, how the Vulcans and the Romulans who were once Vulcans who rejected Surik's teaching of pure logic and the despensing of emotions, or any other aspects of Vulcan society or Vulcan ancestory, or family members, etc. At any rate, this is another real, fine exsmple of the Original Star Trek Series that, simply put, beats the pants off of that next generation stuff and whatever followed it. Original Star Trek Series forever!
As the planet Vulcan turns.....
So are the days of our lives
That’s great
@@leroyhudson4311 So are the days of -our lives- living long and prospering. (fify)
The Secret Storm!
Introducing my wife in exactly this fashion is pretty much one of my favourite parts of being married.
In TNG Season 3, "Sarek" He introduced his wive the same way. That was nice attention to detail. He also seems to have a kink for Earth woman.
Thank it a tug on the heart, I could not understand it for a long time. But As I watch more Star Trek I learned why.
It is highly unlikely Captain Kirk would not be aware the ambassador and his wife are Spock's parents.
2:28 Sarek salutes McCoy and McCoy looks at his hand like it doesn't belong to him and he can't figure out what to do with it ...
Thankfully I can do the salute-left handed though.
That was perfect. 😂
KIrk: Ambassador, you look awfully familiar. Have we met before?
Sarek: Umm... no?
"We come to serve" *starts breakdancing*
RIP Leonard Nimoy, Deforest Kelly, William Shatner, Mark Lenard and Jane Wyatt
William Shawnee is still alive...jerk
Shatner (damm spell check😏)
Shatner is still alive
I totally agree with some of these comments about it being awkward.
Did you or did you not catch the eye roll from Sarek? Oh my goodness! If that look were a phaser!
All those Redshirts standing together in one spot? Bound to be a massacre somewhere.
*Me holding a minigun* Ah I was
I like how the red shirt security detail marches in with confidence. All... except the last one who knows what happens to red shirts when they are sent to meet anyone... They get killed. So... The last guy delays his willingness to greet the ambassador's arrival. Thus... He is late.
One of the best episodes by far and the andorian spy went on to be a barber and a member of the feared black windows motor cycle gang in 2 Clint Eastwood movies
Thats a lot of Lieutenants for 1 squad !!
1:44 - Helluva time to ask, Bones!
Lmao
So sad, even Spock’s own mother did not Acknowledge him
Actually I think she was waiting for Spock to say something first
@@DenitaArnold she must be a millennial lol. We don't know how to socialize!
She is probably didn't want to irritate Sarek or make a show. Just as Spock did not volunteer information at first
wasnt there a time when Spock told (nurse chapel maybe?) that his last name was almost unpronounceable by humans? it is entirely likely Sarek is just listed as Sarek on most documents, and Spock is just listed as Spock on most documents, for ease of the humancentric federation.
In one of the novels Spock is given a first name. It is super long.no one is going to remember it.
I’m surprised that Kirk didn’t put 2 and 2 together and realize that Sarek and Amanda were Spock’s parents. I mean, Kirk knew that Spock was half Vulcan and half human, and there can’t have been that many inter species marriages with Vulcans, especially with humans.
Yeah, but at this point Kirk doesn't know the ambassador's wife is human.
i remember this part
Woo HOO salute to the baddest mamma jamma around the 1 the only Captain Kirk played by William Shatner whom has successfully went into space as I write this..
Yeah I’m late on the date but this popped up in my feed and I loved this show as a kid. I’m 56 now and Shatner is 90. Loved the double fisted smacks to the back, and the ship wall jumps on the attackers. I wasn’t ever stupid enough to try these as a kid. I knew about stuntmen and other such things in shows. Sci Fi nut at heart and salute to Bill and the gang.
This back and days of Star trek
Ahhh... Is *this* why everyone always calls Sarek a ***** father? Makes more sense now.
What I don't get is why didn't they just tap Spock for a couple of pints, clone however much they needed and simply filtered out the human factors? Wouldn't it make sense to keep some in stasis for emergencies that require a massive blood transfusion?
Half those redshirts got killed just being an honor guard!!
Now here's a question that never occurred when I was a kid. As Spock's commander... why didn't Kirk know?
joem jackson Kirk never needed to ask any of his crew about their families, they would have to tell him themselves. As far as Kirk goes, he only needs to know his crew one on one.
I know you asked this a long time ago lol.....but with them being estranged it's most likely Spock never brought up the issue of his parents with Kirk.
joem jackson Vulcans are a very private race. They do not discuss their affairs with outworlders.
uncletaylorify Kirk never asked Spock who his parents were, since it never occured to him to ask. The only real surprise is that his mother is Human.
SantomPh not really since that fact has been mentioned many times in several episodes
Great effects for TOS!
2:54 "Being a dick to your son is illogical, Ambassador."
I like the Galileo hangar landing scene much better here than the remastered CGI.
I can't tell you horrified I was to get an add for the imposter Star Trek movie with Chris Pine, pop up on the side when I clicked on this vid. Sad day
For the briefest of moments at 1:02 I thought all those red shirts were about to be sucked into space.
Sarek was being a total rude and disrespectful jerk to Spock. I see no reason for his crummy behavior to his own son. I know their background, but Sarek is being unreasonable and dare I say..... illogical! Amanda ought to give Sarek a little schooling about his behavior towards his own son. I sure would love to. Spock doesn't deserve that crap from him. Spock is a good man and deserves much more respect. He struggles with his human side everyday ans Sarek is blind to this. Jerk.
SpiritBear12 Sarek , as a Vulcan repressed his emotions but more so towards his son. It is not until the TNG era that we realize that he had bottled up all his feelings for over a 100 years, and that he was really proud of his son to the point of almost breaking Picard down (they had mind melded). Sarek was atypical for Vulcans in that he chose his own mate and for qualities Vulcans normally did not value. Hence he overcompensated when dealing with his son to the point of barely acknowledging him outwardly.
it didnt help that Spock and Sarek never did the fal-tor-pan family melding to transfer these feelings discreetly as Vulcans do.
SantomPh u deserve my like for that explaination :)
SpiritBear12 could it be, Sarek acts this way partially because he is struggling with his illness? If you watch, as he exits the shuttle, he doesn't handle the steps easily as a healthy Vulcan could. Perhaps he just needs to be out of there and can't deal with holding back his feelings like someone might seem rude who had to get to the bathroom right away.
now that we have star trek discovery set in the prime timeline, sarek was probably holding back his emotions bc sarek chose Spock to be in the Vulcan science academy when given the choice between Spock and Michael Burnham.... And now we see Spock in starfleet so,,,, deduce what you can from that~
OK, but wouldn't it have been "logical" for the both of them to do this fal-tor-pan thing so that neither one of them have to live day by day with this hurt?
Spock's Parents really gave Spock a cold shoulder.
Amanda didn't, but Spock and his pa Sarek were still on the outs with each other at that point.
"There's something wrong about a man who never smiles, whose conversation never varies from the routine of the job, and who won't talk about his background," said Doctor McCoy.
"I see," said Mr. Spock.
From "I, Mudd" regarding Mr. Norman who would reveal himself as an android when he takes over the ship.
Ben Cross was good as Sarek in the 2009 film but he will never be Mark Lenard
That was a greate episode
OK. Vulcans in general and Spock in particular do not like to talk about their private lives, but maybe Spock could have given Kirk a heads-up: the ambassador is my father and (maybe) he is not so happy I serve in Starfleet. After all, it would come up soon or later.
Love that epidode! Journey To Babel, second season. Love the Original Star Trek Series, best Star Trek out there, none better!
One of my fav episodes ever!
Sarek is my fave character, and I am currently reading a novel bout him. I was looking earlier tonight to see which of the ST shows have Vulcans in the main cast. Only TOS, ENT, SNW, & VOY. This got me thinking that the predominant species in any show is human. Virtually all captains are human. What if they did a ST show that did not have humans? Are Federation vessels required to have humans on them?
I have a hard time believing Kirk would have never seen that in Spock’s personnel file or service record lol
McCoy: How does that Vulcan salute go?
Spock:🖖🏻
McCoy, tries and fails: That hurts worse than the uniform.
Spock: 🤨